Don't be blind

[eots]

we should call them troofer rabbits.

It's like a disease of some sort. :Lil:

actually it is the cure for your ignorance

 

[Modbert]

actually it is the cure for your ignorance

Not quite Eots. So, did you and Alex Jones find the smoking gun yet?

 

[eots]

actually it is the cure for your ignorance

Not quite Eots. So, did you and Alex Jones find the smoking gun yet?

Alex Jones is a broadcaster

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

OpEdNews - Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

 

[DiveCon]

we should call them troofer rabbits.

It's like a disease of some sort.

they get banned almost everywhere else
lol

 

[DiveCon]

actually it is the cure for your ignorance

Not quite Eots. So, did you and Alex Jones find the smoking gun yet?

Alex Jones is a broadcaster

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

OpEdNews - Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

"crazies will be crazy"

 

[Modbert]

they get banned almost everywhere else
lol

Maybe that's why they group here. It's always hilarious though when they argue with one another.

 

[DiveCon]

they get banned almost everywhere else
lol

Maybe that's why they group here. It's always hilarious though when they argue with one another.

you mean how they all think everyone else is an agent
lol

 

[eots]

Not quite Eots. So, did you and Alex Jones find the smoking gun yet?

Alex Jones is a broadcaster

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

OpEdNews - Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

"crazies will be crazy"

the crazy one is the one who claims to have received secret emails from them

 

[DiveCon]

Alex Jones is a broadcaster

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

OpEdNews - Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

"crazies will be crazy"

the crazy one is the one who claims to have received secret emails from them

dipshit troofers lie all the damn time
no where did i ever claim to have received anything "secret"

 

[ProudTwoofer]

the crazy one is the one who claims to have received secret emails from them

Or David Icke.

But if one of us is crazy, ALL of us are crazy.

 

[ProudTwoofer]

dipshit troofers lie all the damn time
no where did i ever claim to have received anything "secret"

It's a lie Zellikow ran the 9/11 commission? It's a lie Obama called for indefinite detention? It's a lie Bush had Native American women sterilized? It's a lie Hitler said the words New World Order? It's a lie Obama supports the Patriot Act which he said he was disgusted by and wanted to put an end to if he became president? It's a lie first responders who know what natural anomalies sound like in buildings that are on fire claim not only to have heard bombs going off but saw demolition flashes? It's a lie the Gulf Of Tonkin was a false flag? It's a lie that our government proposed Operation Northwoods? It's a lie banks fund both sides of wars? It's a lie Major General Smedley Darlington Butler claimed he was approached to assist in the take over of America which in his words would have led to a fascist dictatorship?

 

[eots]

"crazies will be crazy"

the crazy one is the one who claims to have received secret emails from them

dipshit troofers lie all the damn time
no where did i ever claim to have received anything "secret"

you claimed you received an email from James Quintiere, Ph.D., former Chief of the Fire Science Division of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), in which he expressed anger toward and denounced those involved in 9/11truth but the email could not be posted because in contained confidential personal information

 

[Foxfyre]

Is it just me or this thread just getting wierder and wierder?

 

[eots]

Is it just me or this thread just getting wierder and wierder?

is it just me or do your post just get lamer and lamer..if you cant engage in the discussion ...move along

 

[Foxfyre]

Is it just me or this thread just getting wierder and wierder?

is it just me or do your post just get lamer and lamer..if you cant engage in the discussion ...move along

Sheesh, I have been engaging in the discussion. But some stuff is too nuts to even comment on.

Are you always this grumpy this time of night?

 

[ProudTwoofer]

Sheesh, I have been engaging in the discussion. But some stuff is too nuts to even comment on.

Are you always this grumpy this time of night?

It's a lie Zellikow ran the 9/11 commission? It's a lie Obama called for indefinite detention? It's a lie Bush had Native American women sterilized? It's a lie Hitler said the words New World Order? It's a lie Obama supports the Patriot Act which he said he was disgusted by and wanted to put an end to if he became president? It's a lie first responders who know what natural anomalies sound like in buildings that are on fire claim not only to have heard bombs going off but saw demolition flashes? It's a lie the Gulf Of Tonkin was a false flag? It's a lie that our government proposed Operation Northwoods? It's a lie banks fund both sides of wars? It's a lie Major General Smedley Darlington Butler claimed he was approached to assist in the take over of America which in his words would have led to a fascist dictatorship?

Is that post of mine nuts?

 

[candycorn]

Sheesh, I have been engaging in the discussion. But some stuff is too nuts to even comment on.

Are you always this grumpy this time of night?

It's a lie Zellikow ran the 9/11 commission? It's a lie Obama called for indefinite detention? It's a lie Bush had Native American women sterilized? It's a lie Hitler said the words New World Order? It's a lie Obama supports the Patriot Act which he said he was disgusted by and wanted to put an end to if he became president? It's a lie first responders who know what natural anomalies sound like in buildings that are on fire claim not only to have heard bombs going off but saw demolition flashes? It's a lie the Gulf Of Tonkin was a false flag? It's a lie that our government proposed Operation Northwoods? It's a lie banks fund both sides of wars? It's a lie Major General Smedley Darlington Butler claimed he was approached to assist in the take over of America which in his words would have led to a fascist dictatorship?

Is that post of mine nuts?

Yes on several counts. Its sophomoric and made me laugh how you connect dots across decades and think that somehow there is one monolithic person or body arranging everything. Its almost as if you suffered a serious brain injury at some point in your recent past and haven't fully recovered.

 

[Foxfyre]

Sheesh, I have been engaging in the discussion. But some stuff is too nuts to even comment on.

Are you always this grumpy this time of night?

It's a lie Zellikow ran the 9/11 commission? It's a lie Obama called for indefinite detention? It's a lie Bush had Native American women sterilized? It's a lie Hitler said the words New World Order? It's a lie Obama supports the Patriot Act which he said he was disgusted by and wanted to put an end to if he became president? It's a lie first responders who know what natural anomalies sound like in buildings that are on fire claim not only to have heard bombs going off but saw demolition flashes? It's a lie the Gulf Of Tonkin was a false flag? It's a lie that our government proposed Operation Northwoods? It's a lie banks fund both sides of wars? It's a lie Major General Smedley Darlington Butler claimed he was approached to assist in the take over of America which in his words would have led to a fascist dictatorship?

Is that post of mine nuts?

That would depend on whether you are willing to put your 'facts' into their full context with all the factors involved included.

If I only use facts convenient to my thesis, I could make me a liberal, I could make our Congressional leaders honest, I could make Barack Obama a white man, and I could make you a genius.

 

[ProudTwoofer]

That would depend on whether you are willing to put your 'facts' into their full context with all the factors involved included.

.........

I've already posted plenty in their full context. Why the hell are you going to make me go back through the thread to post them again? It's not like you check my sources out.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRaKHq2dfCI]YouTube - World Exclusive: WTC7 Survivor Barry Jennings Account[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVhE3Muh3co]YouTube - Population Control: The Eugenics Connection - Part 1[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaH0Ws8RtSc]YouTube - War on the Weak: Eugenics in America[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh37r3alzzs]YouTube - Operation Paperclip: The Hunt for Nazi Scientists[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkojpgNZD9I]YouTube - History of the Bush Family[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaG9d_4zij8]YouTube - Rep. Brad Sherman Martial Law[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBA65i26lv8]YouTube - Parents of Indoctrinated Children in New Jersey Outraged over Barack Obama Worship Song[/ame]

Scientists Accuse White House of Distorting Facts - NYTimes.com

The covert war in Indonesia, 1957-58 Mark Curtis

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uuWVHT1WUY]YouTube - Rachel Maddow: Indefinite detention? Shame on you... President Obama[/ame]

Approximately 8600 gallons of fuel would have been ignited on the 757 that hit the pentagon. We look at the pentagon and ask ourselves, is the damage consistent with that amount of fuel being ignited? The amount of fuel left in the aircraft that hit the pentagon would have reduced that section to rubble and it would have burned for days. And 8600 gallons of fuel had a BTU rate of 86000000. The fuel spill of 8600 gallons would consist of a very large soil removal project since the contaminated soil would be considered hazardous waste under Title 40 of the Code of Federal Regulations.

An excerpt from the Firefighters for 9/11 truth website.

A common sense test:

You’re dispatched to a house fire in a 2 story with a basement. Upon arrival, all 3 floors are well involved. After extinguishment, the neighbor across the street tells you he saw flashes on all 3 floors within seconds of each other. It turns out the owner has arson convictions on his record. You smell gasoline. Now, should you test the debris for accelerants? No matter what the owner and his friends tell you, wouldn’t you still test it? It’s a “NO-Brainer”…isn’t it?

NOW, HOW WOULD YOU INVESTIGATE?
Look at the facts of the WTC, specifically Tower 7, collapses:
1) Terrorists used explosives on WTC 1 in 1993.
2) Over 118 first responders reported hearing explosions before all 3 collapses, many said it sounded like the “bang-bang-bang” you hear during a demolition.
3) We have video, photographic and audio evidence of explosions after the impact and before collapse.
4) Live news was reporting multiple explosions, and the possibility terrorists also planted explosives.
5) Barry Jennings, the Emergency Coordinator for the NY Housing Authority reported explosions in Tower 7. He also reported being knocked down by explosions prior to the collapse of the tower.
6) Molten steel AND concrete were found at Ground Zero “remember, hydrocarbon fires do not burn hot enough to melt steel or concrete.”N.F.P.A. 921- 19.2.4 Exotic Accelerants states that molten steel and concrete could indicate the use of exotic accelerants, specifically Thermite.
7) WTC 7 was the first concrete and steel high rise to collapse during a fire that had not been struck by an aircraft. It was determined not to be significantly damaged by the falling debris, and diesel fuel tanks DID NOT contribute significantly to the fire (according to NIST final report 2008).

So, with all these indicators, would you test for exotic accelerants/explosive residue/Thermite? How could you confirm or rule out the possibility terrorists planted explosives in addition to the aircraft hits?

Why does N.I.S.T. REFUSE to this day to test for exotic accelerants in the most heinous crime in U.S. history? With the first high rise building collapses in history, why would N.I.S.T. NOT test for accelerants? Especially, with so many indicators, one in which we have lost so many lives, so many Brothers, so many Freedoms, and our Economy. I have not found a single fire investigator who can give a reason other than they didn’t want to find exotic accelerants or they were incompetent! Well, if it was incompetence, we can go back and still test. Steven E. Jones (p.h.d) - Nano Thermite

If you can’t answer why, then please take the time to investigate. Browse our website, and please sign the petition. Our communities trust us. If we let them know this is not how professionals investigate, or how we treat our Brothers and Sisters who gave so much, they will listen. Also, please visit FealGood Foundation and learn how to help our Brothers and Sisters in need.

Many of our Brothers and Sisters are sick and dying from their exposures at Ground Zero, our Country is crumbling. I am asking you to do something much more difficult than fighting a fire. I am asking you to be as professional as you would be on any emergency call. I am asking you to review the evidence surrounding 9-11. I am asking you to join us in demanding an investigation that follows National Standards, and passage of the 9/11 Health and Compensation Act to take care of the sick Ground Zero workers. I am asking you to stand with us to help SAVE OUR BROTHERS, SISTERS AND OUR COUNTRY!
Respectfully,
Erik Lawyer

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti8eyZL_7Co]YouTube - Rick Sanchez 911 police have found a 'suspicious device'[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B4vbO67Bp4]YouTube - Oklahoma City bombing conspiracy MEDIA LIES 9/11[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daNr_TrBw6E]YouTube - General of all American Intelligence: 911 was a fraud![/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V38SlquOjvE]YouTube - Pod Under Flight 175? Military Plane Hit South Tower! Proved by CNN Footage![/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSe1OERJOyE]YouTube - CNN Discusses Mysterious White Plane Over D.C. on 9/11[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCWXrMCGJT4]YouTube - SEN. SANDERS GOES OFF ON BERNANKE_ 03/03/09[/ame]

If congress can't get scum like Bernanke to admit where trillions of dollars go, if Bush wouldn't go under oath, if Obama wants to lock people up who haven't done anything, let alone been accused of anything, what makes you think anybody has anything on them that will will be taken into consideration in a court of law?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1dlgbVLRCM]YouTube - 9/11 commission was ordered to scale down investigation[/ame]

A History of Governmentally Coerced Sterilization: The Plight of the Native American Woman | Atlantic Free Press - Hard Truths for Hard Times

In 1972, the Nixon administration implemented a eugenics policy under Daddy Bush himself, at the time United States ambassador to the UN.

Global ObamaCare and World Population Control

Also, what about Atta's luggage that by coincidence and/or luck happened to have his will. If you were about to fly a plane into a building, would you bring along your will?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

That would depend on whether you are willing to put your 'facts' into their full context with all the factors involved included.

.........

I've already posted plenty in their full context. Why the hell are you going to make me go back through the thread to post them again? It's not like you check my sources out.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRaKHq2dfCI]YouTube - World Exclusive: WTC7 Survivor Barry Jennings Account[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVhE3Muh3co]YouTube - Population Control: The Eugenics Connection - Part 1[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaH0Ws8RtSc]YouTube - War on the Weak: Eugenics in America[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh37r3alzzs]YouTube - Operation Paperclip: The Hunt for Nazi Scientists[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkojpgNZD9I]YouTube - History of the Bush Family[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaG9d_4zij8]YouTube - Rep. Brad Sherman Martial Law[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBA65i26lv8]YouTube - Parents of Indoctrinated Children in New Jersey Outraged over Barack Obama Worship Song[/ame]

Scientists Accuse White House of Distorting Facts - NYTimes.com

The covert war in Indonesia, 1957-58 Mark Curtis

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uuWVHT1WUY]YouTube - Rachel Maddow: Indefinite detention? Shame on you... President Obama[/ame]

Approximately 8600 gallons of fuel would have been ignited on the 757 that hit the pentagon. We look at the pentagon and ask ourselves, is the damage consistent with that amount of fuel being ignited? The amount of fuel left in the aircraft that hit the pentagon would have reduced that section to rubble and it would have burned for days. And 8600 gallons of fuel had a BTU rate of 86000000. The fuel spill of 8600 gallons would consist of a very large soil removal project since the contaminated soil would be considered hazardous waste under Title 40 of the Code of Federal Regulations.

An excerpt from the Firefighters for 9/11 truth website.

A common sense test:

You’re dispatched to a house fire in a 2 story with a basement. Upon arrival, all 3 floors are well involved. After extinguishment, the neighbor across the street tells you he saw flashes on all 3 floors within seconds of each other. It turns out the owner has arson convictions on his record. You smell gasoline. Now, should you test the debris for accelerants? No matter what the owner and his friends tell you, wouldn’t you still test it? It’s a “NO-Brainer”…isn’t it?

NOW, HOW WOULD YOU INVESTIGATE?
Look at the facts of the WTC, specifically Tower 7, collapses:
1) Terrorists used explosives on WTC 1 in 1993.
2) Over 118 first responders reported hearing explosions before all 3 collapses, many said it sounded like the “bang-bang-bang” you hear during a demolition.
3) We have video, photographic and audio evidence of explosions after the impact and before collapse.
4) Live news was reporting multiple explosions, and the possibility terrorists also planted explosives.
5) Barry Jennings, the Emergency Coordinator for the NY Housing Authority reported explosions in Tower 7. He also reported being knocked down by explosions prior to the collapse of the tower.
6) Molten steel AND concrete were found at Ground Zero “remember, hydrocarbon fires do not burn hot enough to melt steel or concrete.”N.F.P.A. 921- 19.2.4 Exotic Accelerants states that molten steel and concrete could indicate the use of exotic accelerants, specifically Thermite.
7) WTC 7 was the first concrete and steel high rise to collapse during a fire that had not been struck by an aircraft. It was determined not to be significantly damaged by the falling debris, and diesel fuel tanks DID NOT contribute significantly to the fire (according to NIST final report 2008).

So, with all these indicators, would you test for exotic accelerants/explosive residue/Thermite? How could you confirm or rule out the possibility terrorists planted explosives in addition to the aircraft hits?

Why does N.I.S.T. REFUSE to this day to test for exotic accelerants in the most heinous crime in U.S. history? With the first high rise building collapses in history, why would N.I.S.T. NOT test for accelerants? Especially, with so many indicators, one in which we have lost so many lives, so many Brothers, so many Freedoms, and our Economy. I have not found a single fire investigator who can give a reason other than they didn’t want to find exotic accelerants or they were incompetent! Well, if it was incompetence, we can go back and still test. Steven E. Jones (p.h.d) - Nano Thermite

If you can’t answer why, then please take the time to investigate. Browse our website, and please sign the petition. Our communities trust us. If we let them know this is not how professionals investigate, or how we treat our Brothers and Sisters who gave so much, they will listen. Also, please visit FealGood Foundation and learn how to help our Brothers and Sisters in need.

Many of our Brothers and Sisters are sick and dying from their exposures at Ground Zero, our Country is crumbling. I am asking you to do something much more difficult than fighting a fire. I am asking you to be as professional as you would be on any emergency call. I am asking you to review the evidence surrounding 9-11. I am asking you to join us in demanding an investigation that follows National Standards, and passage of the 9/11 Health and Compensation Act to take care of the sick Ground Zero workers. I am asking you to stand with us to help SAVE OUR BROTHERS, SISTERS AND OUR COUNTRY!
Respectfully,
Erik Lawyer

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti8eyZL_7Co]YouTube - Rick Sanchez 911 police have found a 'suspicious device'[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B4vbO67Bp4]YouTube - Oklahoma City bombing conspiracy MEDIA LIES 9/11[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daNr_TrBw6E]YouTube - General of all American Intelligence: 911 was a fraud![/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V38SlquOjvE]YouTube - Pod Under Flight 175? Military Plane Hit South Tower! Proved by CNN Footage![/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSe1OERJOyE]YouTube - CNN Discusses Mysterious White Plane Over D.C. on 9/11[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCWXrMCGJT4]YouTube - SEN. SANDERS GOES OFF ON BERNANKE_ 03/03/09[/ame]

If congress can't get scum like Bernanke to admit where trillions of dollars go, if Bush wouldn't go under oath, if Obama wants to lock people up who haven't done anything, let alone been accused of anything, what makes you think anybody has anything on them that will will be taken into consideration in a court of law?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1dlgbVLRCM]YouTube - 9/11 commission was ordered to scale down investigation[/ame]

A History of Governmentally Coerced Sterilization: The Plight of the Native American Woman | Atlantic Free Press - Hard Truths for Hard Times

In 1972, the Nixon administration implemented a eugenics policy under Daddy Bush himself, at the time United States ambassador to the UN.

Global ObamaCare and World Population Control

Also, what about Atta's luggage that by coincidence and/or luck happened to have his will. If you were about to fly a plane into a building, would you bring along your will?

as i said before,your overloading their mindcells with way too much logic,facts and evidence for them to comprehend,your making wayyyyyyyyy too much sense for them to understand.

your going to find out around here that the official conspiracy theory apologists only see what they WANT to see and hear what they want to hear so they wont read a lot of what you post or watch your videos as your finding out.