Donald Trump vs. Hillary Clinton

[Kosh]

In 1997 Blair in the UK spoke about health and education etc. In the US no one cares.

Well, the only thing I would say about this is that we shouldn't be talking about healthcare and education during a presidential election. Neither of those are one of the 18 responsibilities of the federal government. Those issues should be discussed during elections for mayors, city council, state legislators, and governors. But I largely agree with everything else you said.

We are going to sink fast if we don't restore constitutional government.

The only Constitutional spending the Congress does is on the military!

 

[P@triot]

Why? Er... because it might improve the WELFARE of the country.

Because it's against the law. And once we become a lawless nation (which we largely have thanks to liberalism), then all is lost. Would you like a great example? Birth rates are drastically down all across the world - including the U.S. By liberal "logic" I should conclude that going out and raping women with the intent on getting them pregnant would be "good" for "society". Start getting those births back up to ensure the survival of humanity. Would you support that? Well, unless you're a complete sociopath, of course not. And yet that's what you do every day with your unconstitutional nonsense here on USMB. You're advocating for the rape of women. The law is the law. And it is that way for a reason. To ensure that the American people have the power and not some bureaucrat in Washington.

It might never have been easier for states to get together, but do they? Surely it's the job of the federal govt to try and push for this to happen, or provide funds for this to happen.

No. Not at all. Quite the contrary, surely it is not the responsibility of the federal government to provide funds or push for anything when it comes to education. The supreme law of the land says so. What is with your helpless, victim mentality? If you want the school systems in your area to improve, then go fix them. You are empowered to do so. Why are you worried about the school systems in my area? You're children don't go there and you don't pay taxes for them, so unless you are typical liberal control-freak, desperate for power and control over others, it shouldn't bother you in the least what other school systems are doing (so long as it is legal of course).

Federal govt was designed in the 1700s, it's outdated to suggest that the feds should only stick to a small area of things. However, the difference between the states and the feds can be emphasized by the feds taking a back seat role in trying to organize things together.

Well, if that's true, then amend the U.S. Constitution and make it legal for the federal government to oversee education. There are varying opinions on this and I can tell you that I personally disagree strongly with your assessment. Once again, technology has made it easier than ever for progress. In the 1700's, a school system in Vermont would have to wait months to send a letter to a school system in Virginia and receive a response. Now, all of them back pick up a phone and have an instant conversation in real time. Hell, they can even engage in video conferencing providing the same effect as if they were even standing in the same room together. If the American people felt that they didn't need the federal government for education back in the 1700's with all of those barriers, tell me again why they need them in the 21st Century without any barriers?

You'd think in the 21st century states would be able to deal with education effectively, the reality is they don't and can't in some cases, like Louisiana for example.

First of all, where is any proof that they can't? Second, nobody (and I mean nobody) has proven to be more inept and more incapable of doing anything effectively than the freaking federal government. Nothing but a sea of waste, fraud, and abuse. Did they prevent 9/11 despite it being their Constitutional responsibility and having trillions of dollars at their disposal? Have you seen the disastrous shape the Post Office is in lately? How about the Patent Office which years behind schedule? I'm betting everything I own that you're not even aware of some of the astounding cases of ineptitude by the federal government - such as being unable to properly account for or getting rid of - an astounding 77,000 buildings that are unused but still paid for by tax payers.

Government estimates suggest there may be 77,000 empty or underutilized buildings across the country.

Government's Empty Buildings Are Costing Taxpayers Billions

Tell me Frig - what has the federal government ever done that makes you worship them so much and makes you believe they should oversee everything?

 

[P@triot]

The liberal elite have a term for people like you CC.... "useful idiot"

White House Admits Obama Skips Most Intelligence Briefings

Report: Obama Has Missed over Half His Second-Term Daily Intel Briefings - Breitbart

Obama Skipped 62.5 Percent of Intelligence Briefings this Year

Well, if Britebart, newsmax and freebecon say so....lol.

You can't be serious. Oh wait you are. Excuse me as I laugh harder at you.

That's it? That's your response in the face of links providing the facts?

I've never seen anyone more desperate or unable to make a more coherent argument than you.

I'm sure Breitbart and the other two are where you get all of your information Rotty or whatever handle you're going by nowadays....

It explains the constant lies, misinformation, and unparalelled stupidity.

Says the blind and uninformed CC who is nothing but a minion to her liberal masters. Sitting obediently at their feet, promising to trade all freedoms and rights (that someone else died for) in exchange for a few pitiful government table scraps.

You're a disgrace to America CC. You lap up the propaganda as fast as they can feed it to you and you don't even want to know the truth because it goes against your ideology. But the comical part is - you won't leave and go to places like Cuba to experience the libtard "utopia" you claim to want. Which says to me that deep down - you realize you need to mooch off of conservatives like a parasite to survive.

(That also explains your anger issues - knowing that you need people like me just to survive)

Inflated sense of self; Check
No basis in reality; Check
Nothing but insults: Check

You're the perfect Drumpf worshiper. When your messiah gets his ass kicked in November, will you convert to the next false prophet?

That's hilarious. For starters - you just completely described yourself in your little check list (project, much?). And second, I hate Donald Trump. I think he's as much a dirt-bag as Hilldabeast. Oops....

I throughly enjoy exposing you for the fool you are in each and every post. You've yet to get even a single post accurate. Typical of government-dependent minions.

 

[P@triot]

In 1997 Blair in the UK spoke about health and education etc. In the US no one cares.

Well, the only thing I would say about this is that we shouldn't be talking about healthcare and education during a presidential election. Neither of those are one of the 18 responsibilities of the federal government. Those issues should be discussed during elections for mayors, city council, state legislators, and governors. But I largely agree with everything else you said.

We are going to sink fast if we don't restore constitutional government.

The only Constitutional spending the Congress does is on the military!

Largely true, but not entirely. They also spend legally on the Post Office, the Patent Office, etc.

 

[Kosh]

In 1997 Blair in the UK spoke about health and education etc. In the US no one cares.

Well, the only thing I would say about this is that we shouldn't be talking about healthcare and education during a presidential election. Neither of those are one of the 18 responsibilities of the federal government. Those issues should be discussed during elections for mayors, city council, state legislators, and governors. But I largely agree with everything else you said.

We are going to sink fast if we don't restore constitutional government.

The only Constitutional spending the Congress does is on the military!

Largely true, but not entirely. They also spend legally on the Post Office, the Patent Office, etc.

Where is the post office, the patent office, etc. spelled out in the Constitution?

 

[P@triot]

In 1997 Blair in the UK spoke about health and education etc. In the US no one cares.

Well, the only thing I would say about this is that we shouldn't be talking about healthcare and education during a presidential election. Neither of those are one of the 18 responsibilities of the federal government. Those issues should be discussed during elections for mayors, city council, state legislators, and governors. But I largely agree with everything else you said.

We are going to sink fast if we don't restore constitutional government.

The only Constitutional spending the Congress does is on the military!

Largely true, but not entirely. They also spend legally on the Post Office, the Patent Office, etc.

Where is the post office, the patent office, etc. spelled out in the Constitution?

Are you ******* serious? Clearly you have never read the U.S. Constitution....

Article I, Section 8:

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

 

[P@triot]

Inflated sense of self; Check
No basis in reality; Check
Nothing but insults: Check

You're the perfect Drumpf worshiper. When your messiah gets his ass kicked in November, will you convert to the next false prophet?

Ignore data, science, facts, and reality in favor of ideology? Check (for CC)
Accept any and all forms of criminal, unethical, and immoral activity for the cause? Check (for CC)
Indulge in propaganda "comfort food" as opposed to questioning and challenging anything? Check (for CC)
Live life envious of others and hateful of those more successful? (Check for CC)
Trade in rights and freedoms that someone else died for in exchange for handouts? (Check for CC)
Unable to accept free speech or other points of view? (Check for CC)
Require "safe space" from truth at all times/ (Check for CC)

It's official - you are definitely a wing-nut libtard dedicated to being government-dependent.

 

[candycorn]

Well, if Britebart, newsmax and freebecon say so....lol.

You can't be serious. Oh wait you are. Excuse me as I laugh harder at you.

That's it? That's your response in the face of links providing the facts?

I've never seen anyone more desperate or unable to make a more coherent argument than you.

I'm sure Breitbart and the other two are where you get all of your information Rotty or whatever handle you're going by nowadays....

It explains the constant lies, misinformation, and unparalelled stupidity.

Says the blind and uninformed CC who is nothing but a minion to her liberal masters. Sitting obediently at their feet, promising to trade all freedoms and rights (that someone else died for) in exchange for a few pitiful government table scraps.

You're a disgrace to America CC. You lap up the propaganda as fast as they can feed it to you and you don't even want to know the truth because it goes against your ideology. But the comical part is - you won't leave and go to places like Cuba to experience the libtard "utopia" you claim to want. Which says to me that deep down - you realize you need to mooch off of conservatives like a parasite to survive.

(That also explains your anger issues - knowing that you need people like me just to survive)

Inflated sense of self; Check
No basis in reality; Check
Nothing but insults: Check

You're the perfect Drumpf worshiper. When your messiah gets his ass kicked in November, will you convert to the next false prophet?

That's hilarious. For starters - you just completely described yourself in your little check list (project, much?). And second, I hate Donald Trump. I think he's as much a dirt-bag as Hilldabeast. Oops....

I throughly enjoy exposing you for the fool you are in each and every post. You've yet to get even a single post accurate. Typical of government-dependent minions.

So you supposedly hate your messiah "Drumpf" and HRC...yet here you are on a thread where they are the two main charcters.

Your personality shortcomings are becoming more pronounced that you willfully discuss topics you hate. Yeah, I can't blame you for changing your name...everyone was used to the poodle with anger issues.

As for exposing the fool...

Romney has it locked up!

Five reasons why it’s president romney

Yeah poodle, if I had your track record of lies, slinging garbage, profanity, being wrong on everything and never acknowledging you were wrong...I would have changed my name too.

Let me guess, you have perfect excuses for all of those threads you started...

Start dancing *****....

 

[candycorn]

*crickets*

 

[OKTexas]

In 1997 Blair in the UK spoke about health and education etc. In the US no one cares.

Well, the only thing I would say about this is that we shouldn't be talking about healthcare and education during a presidential election. Neither of those are one of the 18 responsibilities of the federal government. Those issues should be discussed during elections for mayors, city council, state legislators, and governors. But I largely agree with everything else you said.

We are going to sink fast if we don't restore constitutional government.

The only Constitutional spending the Congress does is on the military!

Me thinks you need to read the Constitution again.

 

[P@triot]

So you supposedly hate your messiah "Drumpf" and HRC...yet here you are on a thread where they are the two main charcters.

Well yeah stupid....one is the Republican nominee and the other is leading the Democrats for the nominee. So since that is the reality (something you avoid like the plague) I accept it and discuss it. I guess you wouldn't understand since you avoid reality.

 

[Dr Grump]

I will largely defend the Democrats on this one - they only had three choices total (and two - Hillary and Bernie - are completely unelectable). Republicans have no excuses though. We had the best field in the history of the party, and even though liberals were showing up in droves to hijack the primary, if Republicans would have acted like true conservatives Trump wouldn't be the nominee.

You are right and wrong.
1) Hillary is totally electable as is Bernie
2) The Repubs totally missed the boat on this one. You are right, there were a couple of great candidates in there. However, the fact they voted for Donald says a lot about the flotsam and jetsam that is a paid up member of the GoP. None of it good.

 

[candycorn]

So you supposedly hate your messiah "Drumpf" and HRC...yet here you are on a thread where they are the two main charcters.

Well yeah stupid....one is the Republican nominee and the other is leading the Democrats for the nominee. So since that is the reality (something you avoid like the plague) I accept it and discuss it. I guess you wouldn't understand since you avoid reality.

Reality? Uhh...I'm discussing it too shit stain. Have discussed it numeroust times. Your personality shortcomings are becoming more pronounced that you willfully discuss topics you hate. Yeah, I can't blame you for changing your name...everyone was used to the poodle with anger issues.

As for exposing the fool...

Romney has it locked up!

Five reasons why it’s president romney

Yeah poodle, if I had your track record of lies, slinging garbage, profanity, being wrong on everything and never acknowledging you were wrong...I would have changed my name too.

Let me guess, you have perfect excuses for all of those threads you started...

Start dancing *****....

 

[candycorn]

I will largely defend the Democrats on this one - they only had three choices total (and two - Hillary and Bernie - are completely unelectable). Republicans have no excuses though. We had the best field in the history of the party, and even though liberals were showing up in droves to hijack the primary, if Republicans would have acted like true conservatives Trump wouldn't be the nominee.

You are right and wrong.
1) Hillary is totally electable as is Bernie
2) The Repubs totally missed the boat on this one. You are right, there were a couple of great candidates in there. However, the fact they voted for Donald says a lot about the flotsam and jetsam that is a paid up member of the GoP. None of it good.

I think they have won something like 4 elections between them

The GOP did totally botch the election. That is why the next 5 months are going to be so much fun.

 

[P@triot]

So you supposedly hate your messiah "Drumpf" and HRC...yet here you are on a thread where they are the two main charcters.

Well yeah stupid....one is the Republican nominee and the other is leading the Democrats for the nominee. So since that is the reality (something you avoid like the plague) I accept it and discuss it. I guess you wouldn't understand since you avoid reality.

Reality? Uhh...I'm discussing it too shit stain. Have discussed it numeroust times. Your personality shortcomings are becoming more pronounced that you willfully discuss topics you hate.

You are one bizarre broad. You claim I don't hate Trump because I'm in a thread that includes him. He's the Republican nominee dumb ass. I don't like Obama - but how many threads did I engage in about him?

Every time you post something really stupid (which is just about every time you post), you get all pissed off when I point it out. Don't blame me for your irrational ramblings. Oh....and get back on your meds.

 

[candycorn]

So you supposedly hate your messiah "Drumpf" and HRC...yet here you are on a thread where they are the two main charcters.

Well yeah stupid....one is the Republican nominee and the other is leading the Democrats for the nominee. So since that is the reality (something you avoid like the plague) I accept it and discuss it. I guess you wouldn't understand since you avoid reality.

Reality? Uhh...I'm discussing it too shit stain. Have discussed it numeroust times. Your personality shortcomings are becoming more pronounced that you willfully discuss topics you hate.

You are one bizarre broad. You claim I don't hate Trump because I'm in a thread that includes him. He's the Republican nominee dumb ass. I don't like Obama - but how many threads did I engage in about him?

Every time you post something really stupid (which is just about every time you post), you get all pissed off when I point it out. Don't blame me for your irrational ramblings. Oh....and get back on your meds.

Speaking of stupid postings...

Your personality shortcomings are becoming more pronounced that you willfully discuss topics you hate. Yeah, I can't blame you for changing your name...everyone was used to the poodle with anger issues.

As for exposing the fool...

Romney has it locked up!

Five reasons why it’s president romney

Yeah poodle, if I had your track record of lies, slinging garbage, profanity, being wrong on everything and never acknowledging you were wrong...I would have changed my name too; much like a felon trying to shed his past. Sad really.

Let me guess, you have perfect excuses for all of those threads you started...

Start dancing *****....

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[P@triot]

I will largely defend the Democrats on this one - they only had three choices total (and two - Hillary and Bernie - are completely unelectable). Republicans have no excuses though. We had the best field in the history of the party, and even though liberals were showing up in droves to hijack the primary, if Republicans would have acted like true conservatives Trump wouldn't be the nominee.

You are right and wrong.
1) Hillary is totally electable as is Bernie
2) The Repubs totally missed the boat on this one. You are right, there were a couple of great candidates in there. However, the fact they voted for Donald says a lot about the flotsam and jetsam that is a paid up member of the GoP. None of it good.

Well sadly - "they" largely didn't vote for Donald (some idiots did - but not most of them). Donald is the result of unethical liberalism. Libtards show up in droves in Republican primaries and cast votes in hoping of getting the most easily beatable candidate the nominee so their Dumbocrat candidate has a prayer of winning. That's how we end up with idiots like Donald Trump.

 

[P@triot]

A good article on Trump. I did find this part ironic though. "mismanage the country's finances"? "needlessly inflame racial tensions"? "undermine the rule of law"? "confuse and antagonize our allies"? "hurt the economy through erratic policies that punish and reward"? That flawlessly describes the Obama presidency.

The most likely outcome is that Trump would be neither good nor disastrous as president, but simply bad. For example, he might mismanage the country's finances, needlessly inflame racial tensions, undermine the rule of law, confuse and antagonize our allies, and hurt the economy through erratic policies that punish and reward investors based on his political whims.

Donald Trump is the ultimate tail-risk candidate, but voters aren't focusing enough on how risky he is

 

[candycorn]

I will largely defend the Democrats on this one - they only had three choices total (and two - Hillary and Bernie - are completely unelectable). Republicans have no excuses though. We had the best field in the history of the party, and even though liberals were showing up in droves to hijack the primary, if Republicans would have acted like true conservatives Trump wouldn't be the nominee.

You are right and wrong.
1) Hillary is totally electable as is Bernie
2) The Repubs totally missed the boat on this one. You are right, there were a couple of great candidates in there. However, the fact they voted for Donald says a lot about the flotsam and jetsam that is a paid up member of the GoP. None of it good.

Well sadly - "they" largely didn't vote for Donald (some idiots did - but not most of them). Donald is the result of unethical liberalism. Libtards show up in droves in Republican primaries and cast votes in hoping of getting the most easily beatable candidate the nominee so their Dumbocrat candidate has a prayer of winning. That's how we end up with idiots like Donald Trump.

 

[P@triot]

Speaking of stupid postings...

Your personality shortcomings are becoming more pronounced that you willfully discuss topics you hate. Yeah, I can't blame you for changing your name...everyone was used to the poodle with anger issues.

As for exposing the fool...

Romney has it locked up!

Five reasons why it’s president romney

Yeah poodle, if I had your track record of lies, slinging garbage, profanity, being wrong on everything and never acknowledging you were wrong...I would have changed my name too; much like a felon trying to shed his past. Sad really.

Let me guess, you have perfect excuses for all of those threads you started...

Start dancing *****....

You just said "speaking of stupid postings" and then copied and pasted your own post...