Donald Trump vs. Hillary Clinton

[Ame®icano]

Left cannot allow Hillary's indictment for one simple reason: Nobody in current administration wants to go further because everyone is implicated in her failure to protect sensitive information. Every single government employee who was sending/receiving email to/from her non-government email is required to report any violation, and nobody has done that. Everyone who was sending or receiving classified information to email that was not ".gov" is liable for even potential loss of information. How many people are involved, how many knew they are violating rules and how high it could go?

The only way she could get exposed and indicted is if Trump become president.

 

[P@triot]

I hope Trump just hammers away at the left's anti-American, anti-military, pro-Nazi-propaganda sentiment. The left is so disgusting and so disgraceful...

 

[P@triot]

So she pulls in an astounding $153 million (talk about the "evil" 1%)...

$153 million in Bill and Hillary Clinton speaking fees, documented - CNNPolitics.com

But she only gives a paltry $70k to the men and women who made it possible for her to fleece the American people out of millions?!?

Records: Hillary Clinton Has Donated $70,000 To Veterans - Breitbart

 

[ScienceRocks]

I am just going to support the one that is the most pro-science and space exploration. Nothing else matters. I hate ******* cancer! I don't care if we spend a trillion bucks to cure tthis piece of shit disease.

 

[P@triot]

I am just going to support the one that is the most pro-science and space exploration. Nothing else matters. We need a cure for cancer as my family is slowly dying off from one by one. So yeah, nothing else matters.

Awesome! **** everyone who died for the U.S. Constitution - Matt and his family are far more important than the United States and should not have to make any sacrifices like those other useless minions in the military. Heck of a sentiment to make on Memorial Day weekend Matt. You're a "true" American

 

[frigidweirdo]

This sums up the rational American people perfectly....

What about all the others running?

 

[P@triot]

This sums up the rational American people perfectly....

What about all the others running?

Unfortunately - the American people are not very well educated about politics (which explains why we find ourselves in the mess that we are currently in). So the overwhelming majority have never even heard of the "Green Party", the "Constitution Party", and the "Libertarian Party". While the American people hold full responsibility for their ignorance on this (especially considering the extraordinary media options available to bring information to one's fingertips), part of that is due to the power of the Republican and Democrats.

 

[P@triot]

Wow....I think the Democrats should get Hilldabeast some therapy immediately. If you're giving a speech on foreign policy and you mention a domestic candidate an astounding 62x's, something is really wrong. She's either scared stupid of him, obsessed with him, or desperate to gain attention from his name. Either way, that does not bode well at all.

Hillary Obsessed, Mentions Trump 62 Times in Foreign Policy Speech

 

[P@triot]

Hilldabeast has failed at everything she's ever done (and only had the positions she's had by riding the coattails of her husband). Can't imagine how awful she'd be as commander in chief.

BRIDGEPORT — A survivor of the 2012 Benghazi siege that claimed the lives of four Americans and subject of the movie “13 Hours” repudiated Hillary Clinton Thursday night in Connecticut’s largest Democratic stronghold.

Kris “Tanto” Paronto, a military contractor and former Army Ranger, said Clinton failed as secretary of state to send in adequate reinforcements when the U.S. mission in Libya was under terrorist attack. Part of the security team that tried to defend the compound, Paronto headlined the annual Lincoln Day fundraising dinner of Bridgeport Republicans, who make up less than 10 percent of the city’s electorate.

http://www.glennbeck.com/2016/06/02/benghazi-survivor-hillary-clinton-has-no-soul/

 

[P@triot]

More evidence that Hilldabeast was a catastrophic failure in every endeavor she undertook...

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had a tough time defending her record on global warming in Tuesday night’s Democratic presidential debate. Clinton scrambled to defend a climate deal she helped broker — a deal widely regarded as a failure.

Hillary Tries To Defend Her Role At The Failed Copenhagen Climate Summit

 

[EriktheRed]

 

[frigidweirdo]

This sums up the rational American people perfectly....

What about all the others running?

Unfortunately - the American people are not very well educated about politics (which explains why we find ourselves in the mess that we are currently in). So the overwhelming majority have never even heard of the "Green Party", the "Constitution Party", and the "Libertarian Party". While the American people hold full responsibility for their ignorance on this (especially considering the extraordinary media options available to bring information to one's fingertips), part of that is due to the power of the Republican and Democrats.

Did you see my thread about who people would vote for in a French style presidential election where you could vote anyone in the first round, then vote for the two most popular in the second round?

Three votes. Most people who replied just made stupid comments. They had no idea who any of these people were. I deliberately put "democrat scum" and "republican scum" at the bottom trying to dissuade people voting for those two.

it's a ridiculous situation.

Every 8 years people shout out that they want real change and vote for the guy who says he'll give real change, and they never come with a package of real change, but the people just accept that change will come. Then after a few months they realize there is no change.

 

[P@triot]

This sums up the rational American people perfectly....

What about all the others running?

Unfortunately - the American people are not very well educated about politics (which explains why we find ourselves in the mess that we are currently in). So the overwhelming majority have never even heard of the "Green Party", the "Constitution Party", and the "Libertarian Party". While the American people hold full responsibility for their ignorance on this (especially considering the extraordinary media options available to bring information to one's fingertips), part of that is due to the power of the Republican and Democrats.

Did you see my thread about who people would vote for in a French style presidential election where you could vote anyone in the first round, then vote for the two most popular in the second round?

Three votes. Most people who replied just made stupid comments. They had no idea who any of these people were. I deliberately put "democrat scum" and "republican scum" at the bottom trying to dissuade people voting for those two.

it's a ridiculous situation.

Every 8 years people shout out that they want real change and vote for the guy who says he'll give real change, and they never come with a package of real change, but the people just accept that change will come. Then after a few months they realize there is no change.

I saw you mention something about that. As much as I hate to admit it (because I can't stand the guy) but I think Jesse Ventura had the best solution yet - completely remove party affiliation from ballots. Names only and nothing more. That would force people to learn about the actual candidates before voting.

 

[P@triot]

While I think Trump is a nightmare - that cartoon is absurd. There is no such thing as a "professional president". George Washington was a farmer. Thomas Jefferson was an attorney. Ronald Reagan was an actor. In fact, our founders designed a system specifically for the purpose of having "commoners" serve as representatives.

The cartoon is typical of the liberal snobbery. The idea that we need an elite class only to "rule" over the people. Of course, the irony is that Trump (a New York billionaire) is exponentially more elite than Arkansas bumpkin Hilldabeast.

 

[frigidweirdo]

This sums up the rational American people perfectly....

What about all the others running?

Unfortunately - the American people are not very well educated about politics (which explains why we find ourselves in the mess that we are currently in). So the overwhelming majority have never even heard of the "Green Party", the "Constitution Party", and the "Libertarian Party". While the American people hold full responsibility for their ignorance on this (especially considering the extraordinary media options available to bring information to one's fingertips), part of that is due to the power of the Republican and Democrats.

Did you see my thread about who people would vote for in a French style presidential election where you could vote anyone in the first round, then vote for the two most popular in the second round?

Three votes. Most people who replied just made stupid comments. They had no idea who any of these people were. I deliberately put "democrat scum" and "republican scum" at the bottom trying to dissuade people voting for those two.

it's a ridiculous situation.

Every 8 years people shout out that they want real change and vote for the guy who says he'll give real change, and they never come with a package of real change, but the people just accept that change will come. Then after a few months they realize there is no change.

I saw you mention something about that. As much as I hate to admit it (because I can't stand the guy) but I think Jesse Ventura had the best solution yet - completely remove party affiliation from ballots. Names only and nothing more. That would force people to learn about the actual candidates before voting.

To be honest, I think people would somehow get around it. There's too much control. A better way is to give people more choice, and that choice is feeling free to vote who they like without having to vote AGAINST someone.

The German system is great for this. The French presidential system is better than the US system for this.

 

[frigidweirdo]

While I think Trump is a nightmare - that cartoon is absurd. There is no such thing as a "professional president". George Washington was a farmer. Thomas Jefferson was an attorney. Ronald Reagan was an actor. In fact, our founders designed a system specifically for the purpose of having "commoners" serve as representatives.

The cartoon is typical of the liberal snobbery. The idea that we need an elite class only to "rule" over the people. Of course, the irony is that Trump (a New York billionaire) is exponentially more elite than Arkansas bumpkin Hilldabeast.

At the same time, the Swiss system has an executive made up of various people, 7 I think, and they're appointed from those who have served well in the legislature. They don't end up with their leaders shouting their mouths off like Trump does, alienating, having populism all over the place. Just steady politics.

 

[P@triot]

While I think Trump is a nightmare - that cartoon is absurd. There is no such thing as a "professional president". George Washington was a farmer. Thomas Jefferson was an attorney. Ronald Reagan was an actor. In fact, our founders designed a system specifically for the purpose of having "commoners" serve as representatives.

The cartoon is typical of the liberal snobbery. The idea that we need an elite class only to "rule" over the people. Of course, the irony is that Trump (a New York billionaire) is exponentially more elite than Arkansas bumpkin Hilldabeast.

At the same time, the Swiss system has an executive made up of various people, 7 I think, and they're appointed from those who have served well in the legislature. They don't end up with their leaders shouting their mouths off like Trump does, alienating, having populism all over the place. Just steady politics.

Considering France is under control of a proud socialist and their nation is in significant financial distress, I'm not sure I want to model their system.

Ventura's suggestion is still the best I've heard. No party affiliation on the ballot means one cannot go in and simply vote Republican or Democrat across the board.

I also strongly believe we need to have mandatory polygraphs for anyone even running for office. Nobody should be allowed to misrepresent what they stand for when running for public office.

 

[candycorn]

With the small fraction of a man named "drumpf" , you have to be careful what you tell him. Not only from a national security standpoint and he'll blab. But after he loses (or wins), using the intel that may be gained to his advantage when getting people to slap his name on their hotel. If I were Obama, I wouldn't divulge anything to him...there is little chance he would understand it anyway.

 

[P@triot]

With the small fraction of a man named "drumpf" , you have to be careful what you tell him. Not only from a national security standpoint and he'll blab. But after he loses (or wins), using the intel that may be gained to his advantage when getting people to slap his name on their hotel. If I were Obama, I wouldn't divulge anything to him...there is little chance he would understand it anyway.

While I can't disagree about Trump at all, the sad part is that Obama couldn't tell Trump anything about National Security if he wanted to. He skips most of his security council meetings to go golfing and take lavish trips around the world.

 

[HUGGY]

I'm not really worried about any substantial threats to the empire.

I've got a $1,000 that says you're a liberal (uh?). They are always so naive about stuff like that.

No discussion about anything in this society is there. Label, categorize, flame. Ideas and concepts are to tough.

Unlike liberals, I am not preventing you from discussing anything. I don't riot and resort to violence when a liberal tries to speak. And spare me they hyper-sensitive "don't label me" battle cry. Labels exist for a reason. They are a vital part of understanding. It's why we label things "mammals", and "reptiles", etc.

Without labels, the world would be a lot more volatile. For instance, if someone is acting really stupid and you are informed that the person is mentally handicapped in some way, you realize it is not their fault. That's a vital label. If someone else is acting really stupid, and you are informed they are high on narcotics, you realize that although the direct action at the moment is not their fault, it is their fault for putting the narcotics in their system. You are going to treat that person different from the mentally handicapped person. Then, if yet another person is acting really stupid, and you are informed they are a liberal, you realize they are stupid by choice and you are going to treat them differently from the mentally handicapped and the drug addict.

Great rationalization. Anyone who has other ideas can be dismissed for your declaration of their stupidity, and you of course are always and forever correct. Thought so.

Not true at all. I'll listen to ideas all day. What I won't listen to is the call to violate the law.

If a person thinks guns should be outlawed - fine. Have that conversation, be honest about your intentions and reasons, and then try to convince the American people to legally amend the U.S. Constitution.

But liberals don't do that. They simply violate the law. And that is why I dismiss them. I would listen all day and discuss anything with anyone so long as they are willing to obey the law. I have no time or sympathy for criminals.

The smartest liberals, and yes they have some very intelligent people among them, and the smartest conservatives do the same thing. They BOTH think their way is the best way for America and they both point to the dumbest examples of the opposite party to show that "those people" are too stupid to decide America's path. Yet these "smart people" have turned the presidential election process into a frigging reality show. Astonishing!

We don't have the "best and brightest" as the finalists. We have the best conveyors of the best sound bites running the final mile. The media which feeds off of the most interesting scenarios and personalities chooses our candidates by making the losers in the process look flawed.