Donald Trump understands the issues facing everyday Ameicans

[MarathonMike]

You are so full of shit. Violence? What about January 6? Assassinations, what about Mellissa Hortman? I mean come on, during Biden's entire presidency we constantly heard about your guns, the need to water the tree of liberty with blood, now, suddenly I am suppose to believe you all became pacifists?

The Republicans own this shutdown. They continually demonstrate that are incapable of governing. And Trump's 18 hours a day, which I have heard before. I really don't believe it, but if he is working that many hours a day he sure is not very effective. I mean I get it. His number one priority, well, after himself, is that ballroom. Instead, he should be spending 18 hours a day pressuring Congress to get the government open.

Another Trump Hysterian chiming in with "HEY LOOK OVER THERE!!"

 

[Crepitus]

Donald Trump understands the issues facing everyday Ameicans.
Federal workers are not receiving a paycheck during the shut down. They are having to go to food banks to be able to feed their families.
Trump does not want to give SNAP reciepients full benefits during the shut down. This will result in many of those, most in need, scrambling for food.

What does Trump do during a time many are having a hard time putting food on the table, he works out a deal to get weight loss drugs cheaper. Americans cannot get food but Trump is making sure they can get weight loss drugs cheap. What a guy.

His main focus is the east wing remodel. He will build the biggest ballroom so he can throw huge feasts and parties for his friends. He will feed billionaires and the well connected. Thank goodness they will be taken care of.

Furloughed fed says she's standing in Maryland food bank line after 21 years in military

“I’ve not been in this predicament ever,” one woman said. “[…] The reason I wanted to become a federal government employee was stability. That stability, that rug, if you will, has been snatched away from us.”

www.nbcwashington.com

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/06/trump-unveils-deal-to-lower-prices-for-weight-loss-drugs-00640087

Classic!!

 

[ElmerMudd]

Whoever you cut and pasted this from misspelled "Americans" twice.

Note to Russia: can we please get a slightly better quality of troll here? Thanks.

That was me. I was so excited to provide another example of what an idiot Trump is, I had a few typos. That does not change the story.

 

[ElmerMudd]

What a pathetic dodge. Anyone with common sense supports Trump. How do you justify supporting a Party that puts illegals ahead of US Citizens?

I am not choosing any candidate until I see my choices. I am not a Democrat. Almost anyone would be better than Trump.

He has done a good job shutting down the border but some of his techniques are concerning. He is failing on improving the economy. That was his biggest promise.

 

[Maxdeath]

Why doesn't Trump do something other than lower the cost of weight loss drug, plan an invasion of Nigeria, start testing nuclear weapons, etc.
He has the house and Senate. Those living paycheck to paycheck are no better off than under Biden, maybe worse. That was his main talking point; on day one I will lower the cost of living for all Americans. What bullshit.

Exactly what do you suggest? He tried to make changes and the democrats have taken him to court time and time again. A lot of the time they knew they would be shot down but it was the delaying tactic that counted most.

I have no doubt he would love to hear any usable idea you have.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Exactly what do you suggest? He tried to make changes and the democrats have taken him to court time and time again. A lot of the time they knew they would be shot down but it was the delaying tactic that counted most.

I have no doubt he would love to hear any usable idea you have.

Instruct congress to sign a short term extension of the insurance subsidies.

Elections have consequences. Trump is President. That is a consequence. Republicans control the house and the senate. That is a consequence.
But the Republicans do not have 60 in the senate. If they did, no problem but they don't. That is a consequence of elections. As a result, Republicans have to negotiate with Democrats to pass the budget. A consequence of elections

 

[Maxdeath]

Instruct congress to sign a short term extension of the insurance subsidies.

Elections have consequences. Trump is President. That is a consequence. Republicans control the house and the senate. That is a consequence.
But the Republicans do not have 60 in the senate. If they did, no problem but they don't. That is a consequence of elections. As a result, Republicans have to negotiate with Democrats to pass the budget. A consequence of elections

So you are fine with adding 1.5 Trillion to the national debt.
But you seem to not understand that when those subsidies were first proposed the democrats agreed that they should sunset this year. So now as usual they do not want to uphold their word.
I get it you want to complain about food prices but since you have no idea how to tackle lowering prices now you are on to subsidies.
Kind of bob and weave there but hey I get it. Easier to complain then actually understand the way things actually are

 

[ElmerMudd]

So you are fine with adding 1.5 Trillion to the national debt.
But you seem to not understand that when those subsidies were first proposed the democrats agreed that they should sunset this year. So now as usual they do not want to uphold their word.
I get it you want to complain about food prices but since you have no idea how to tackle lowering prices now you are on to subsidies.
Kind of bob and weave there but hey I get it. Easier to complain then actually understand the way things actually are

Trump's budget will add 2 trillion to the debt. I don't like that. I am not happy about adding anything to the debt. But budget cuts cannot happen through medical insurance cuts

 

[Maxdeath]

Trump's budget will add 2 trillion to the debt. I don't like that. I am not happy about adding anything to the debt. But budget cuts cannot happen through medical insurance cuts

Look I get it. Everyone else is right and everything wrong is Trumps fault.
I was raised poor. If we had not hunted and canned food we would not have eaten. I remember a preacher asking my father why he did not accept help from the church and locals. His answer was “ I expect to provide for my family not someone else at their expense”.
I do not know how or where you were raised but if I told someone I would do anything or agreed to something I stood behind my word. Unlike the democrats. When I saw something was broken I fixed it, I did not continue to throw money at it. When ACA was passed independent think tanks and others screamed that it would cause healthcare costs to rise but instead of looking at why and trying to fix it the democrats have gone all in on throw more money at it, no matter the cost.
I wish we had had better political choices then both parties have given us in the last twenty years but we are stuck with what we have. While I do not care for Trump at least we are aware of who is running the White House. We know there is no one behind the curtain offering ice cream if he did as told.
The DNC chose Harris without a single primary vote. Someone who could not make sense while speaking without a teleprompter.
I will blame Trump for a lot of things but failing to fund a broken system because the democrats want to go back on their word is not one of them.
The democrats claim to care about people but their antics have stopped paying government workers, the military and SNAP benefits which harms the people they claim to care about. I ask myself why and I see only one answer. They figure it will garnish them votes, especially if they can convince everyone that it is Trumps fault.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Look I get it. Everyone else is right and everything wrong is Trumps fault.
I was raised poor. If we had not hunted and canned food we would not have eaten. I remember a preacher asking my father why he did not accept help from the church and locals. His answer was “ I expect to provide for my family not someone else at their expense”.
I do not know how or where you were raised but if I told someone I would do anything or agreed to something I stood behind my word. Unlike the democrats. When I saw something was broken I fixed it, I did not continue to throw money at it. When ACA was passed independent think tanks and others screamed that it would cause healthcare costs to rise but instead of looking at why and trying to fix it the democrats have gone all in on throw more money at it, no matter the cost.
I wish we had had better political choices then both parties have given us in the last twenty years but we are stuck with what we have. While I do not care for Trump at least we are aware of who is running the White House. We know there is no one behind the curtain offering ice cream if he did as told.
The DNC chose Harris without a single primary vote. Someone who could not make sense while speaking without a teleprompter.
I will blame Trump for a lot of things but failing to fund a broken system because the democrats want to go back on their word is not one of them.
The democrats claim to care about people but their antics have stopped paying government workers, the military and SNAP benefits which harms the people they claim to care about. I ask myself why and I see only one answer. They figure it will garnish them votes, especially if they can convince everyone that it is Trumps fault.

You cannot believe Trump. The majority of his claims are false or exaggerations.
If you believe what Trump says you will not have an accurate view of what he is doing and what others are doing.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/29/politics/fact-check-trump-ukraine-inflation

Why does Donald Trump lie? | Edge Hill University

In a new article for The Conversation, psychology Professor Geoff Beattie discusses why Donald Trump lies.

www.edgehill.ac.uk

 

[Winston]

When ACA was passed independent think tanks and others screamed that it would cause healthcare costs to rise but instead of looking at why and trying to fix it the democrats have gone all in on throw more money at it, no matter the cost.

I am going to need for you to document some of those white papers from those "independent" think tanks.

Trends in Out-of-Pocket Healthcare Expenses Before and After Passage of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act - PMC

This cross-sectional study analyzes trends in out-of-pocket (OOP) health expenses in the United States during the last 2 decades and compares the distribution of services that contribute most to OOP spending.

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

There is no doubt, out of pocket health care costs, as a percentage of income, decreased significantly after the ACA.. And that had a positive impact on the economy that we still carry today. Even total spending, which counts government spending, is still little more today, as a percentage of GDP, than it was before the ACA. For good reason. Less pools, more diversification of risk. The elimination of the health insurers ability to segment the market.

 

[Maxdeath]

You cannot believe Trump. The majority of his claims are false or exaggerations.
If you believe what Trump says you will not have an accurate view of what he is doing and what others are doing.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/29/politics/fact-check-trump-ukraine-inflation

Why does Donald Trump lie? | Edge Hill University

In a new article for The Conversation, psychology Professor Geoff Beattie discusses why Donald Trump lies.

www.edgehill.ac.uk

Never said I believed anything he claimed. As far as anything CNN writes I believe what they print even less.

 

[Paddlefoot]

 

[Maxdeath]

I am going to need for you to document some of those white papers from those "independent" think tanks.

Trends in Out-of-Pocket Healthcare Expenses Before and After Passage of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act - PMC

This cross-sectional study analyzes trends in out-of-pocket (OOP) health expenses in the United States during the last 2 decades and compares the distribution of services that contribute most to OOP spending.

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

There is no doubt, out of pocket health care costs, as a percentage of income, decreased significantly after the ACA.. And that had a positive impact on the economy that we still carry today. Even total spending, which counts government spending, is still little more today, as a percentage of GDP, than it was before the ACA. For good reason. Less pools, more diversification of risk. The elimination of the health insurers ability to segment the market.

Okay son you really have drank the cult koolaid.
The heritage foundation, the American enterprise institute, the Cato institute, the congressional budget office just to name a few. The were even individuals saying the exact same thing.
Just a little reading for you. Not a lot of big words so you can understand it. How Obamacare Set In Motion Today’s Premium Crisis
Look I get it you really want to believe what they print democrats tell you, just as others want to believe what they print republicans tell them. The problem is if you are not properly informed you will believe any lie either one tells you.

 

[Winston]

son you really have drank the cult koolaid.
The heritage foundation, the American enterprise institute, the Cato institute, the congressional budget office just to name a few. The were even individuals saying the exact same thing.
Just a little reading for you. Not a lot of big words so you can understand it. How Obamacare Set In Motion Today’s Premium Crisis
Look I get it you really want to believe what they print democrats tell you, just as others want to believe what they print republicans tell them. The problem is if you are not properly informed you will believe any lie either one tells you.

Sorry hoss, you are the one sucking up the Kool-Aid. AEI, the Cato Institute? That is ******* rich I tell you. And your article, from Pacific Research Institute, it smacks of propaganda. But it is cute, you actually think all those sources are unbiased. I mean I can pick apart Ms. Pipes article if you like.

Pipes is one of those "free market" prostitutes.n For instance, from the article,

Individual-market premiums over the last decade-plus have been surging. Between 2013 and 2014, when Obamacare’s many regulations took effect, they rose 47%. Average premiums for benchmark plans rose 75% between 2014 and 2024.
First, regarding that initial increase, again, from the article.

As Johns Hopkins University professor Ge Bai wrote in a recent Wall Street Journal op-ed, “The inflationary provisions of the Affordable Care Act—such as the medical loss ratio, mandated ‘essential’ benefits, community rating and premium subsidies—have inhibited insurers from offering affordable and flexible options.”
There you go, those mandated essential benefits, sure, they came at a cost. Back to the article,

Moreover, policymakers need to find ways to increase the number of low-cost offerings, such as short-term and association health plans, on the insurance market—instead of outlawing or limiting them, as Obamacare and the Biden administration did.

I spent two decades working the health insurance market in multiple channels. I know Ms. Pipes is full of shit because never, not once, did I ever run in to anyone that said, "Damn sure glad I had that short term health insurance", or "that Association Plan" really saved my ass. The reason, they either just flat don't pay, or they pay and then cancel on you. Those plans were only good for the insurance companies, not the insured. Comically, the Republicans released a Senate report with real life examples that reflected the "cost" of the ACA. The very first example, someone having an association plan, because it was all they could afford, because the ACA caused their premiums to go up due to the essential benefits. Then, they developed a serious illness, the hospital would not accept their "association plan", essentially, they had nothing. Somehow, that was Obama's fault. Like I said, comical.

So that goes to the essential benefits thing. One not mentioned, guaranteed issue, regardless of health. Well you know, that employer provided health insurance market, it is guaranteed issue. When a quote is provided to the employer the insurer has no knowledge of the health of any of the proposed beneficiaries. And even if they did know, they can't use that to determine the premium. Which brings us to community rating. Yep, employer group, community rated. Yep, everyone pays the same. Single 20 year old male, sixty year old male, they both pay the same.

Another thing, not mentioned. Republicans want to bring back health insurance plans with caps. One million, two million. I mean lifetime caps. No kidding. And yes, that it was the way it used to be. Your wife has cancer, been fighting it like a trooper, making progress, but the treatments have been expensive, and twice weekly. Then comes the letter. Insurance is no longer going to pay, you have reached your lifetime limit.

Now, let's go back to that group market for employers. Many, if not most, of the large companies, are "self-insured". Sure, you got an insurance card with some insurance company Logo on it. When the receptionist asks, you tell them you have Aetna, or BCBS, or whomever. But, those companies are mere servicing agents. It works like this. Insurance company gets all the premiums, and they pay out all the claims, that they, of course, review. UP TO A POINT.

Any claims, over a predetermined amount, are paid by the company. Insurance company is limit up, now, the employer gets the bills. That is why the employer claims they are "self-insured". So riddle me this, you get one of those capped health insurance policies, are not you "self-insured"? I mean can you not see, it is a damn racket. Insurance company knows, going in, the least they can make. Once it approaches an unacceptable margin, they out. WTF?

 

[Maxdeath]

So you are claiming the congressional budget office is propaganda? Come on at least pretend to be real.
As for the rest of your drivel. Insurance companies were required to cover things low quality insurances did not. They are not going to lose out, they are not going to pay out more money then they bring in. I realize that you think you understand things but you have been lied to by you cult. Why do you think the democrats have been throwing more and more money at insurance companies? They are throwing money at them because the premiums are going up because the insurance companies are not into going broke nor are they into charity.