Donald Trump shoots himself in the other foot: Steel layoffs in US mount due to falling production

[Brain357]

Yes that’s how the USSR was. Again, how did that workout? Economists are all in agreement on this one. You are spouting some impressive stupidity. So steel is in bad shape and you think more bad would be better?

Economists agree that America is better off when every market in the world is dominated by products made in china?

I find that hard to believe

They agree that trade is good for obvious reasons. The OP is a great example of how trying to control trade doesn’t work. You want more failure?

I have nothing against fair trade with non enemies

But the chinese are mercantilists who use trade as a weapon

They send us their resources for next to nothing. Your economics knowledge seems really limited...

No. China sends finished goods

China imports only raw material and exports as value added

Those finished goods are created with their resources. We get their labor for almost nothing.

 

[Mac-7]

Economists agree that America is better off when every market in the world is dominated by products made in china?

I find that hard to believe

They agree that trade is good for obvious reasons. The OP is a great example of how trying to control trade doesn’t work. You want more failure?

I have nothing against fair trade with non enemies

But the chinese are mercantilists who use trade as a weapon

They send us their resources for next to nothing. Your economics knowledge seems really limited...

No. China sends finished goods

China imports only raw material and exports as value added

Those finished goods are created with their resources. We get their labor for almost nothing.

This is how mercantilism works

When china snuffs out all foreign competition for a given product other countries have to buy from them or do without

They on the other hand can pick and choose where they buy their raw materials

 

[Brain357]

They agree that trade is good for obvious reasons. The OP is a great example of how trying to control trade doesn’t work. You want more failure?

I have nothing against fair trade with non enemies

But the chinese are mercantilists who use trade as a weapon

They send us their resources for next to nothing. Your economics knowledge seems really limited...

No. China sends finished goods

China imports only raw material and exports as value added

Those finished goods are created with their resources. We get their labor for almost nothing.

This is how mercantilism works

When china snuffs out all foreign competition for a given product other countries have to buy from them or do without

They on the other hand can pick and choose where they buy their raw materials

You have some imagination. Have you read the OP?

 

[Mac-7]

I have nothing against fair trade with non enemies

But the chinese are mercantilists who use trade as a weapon

They send us their resources for next to nothing. Your economics knowledge seems really limited...

No. China sends finished goods

China imports only raw material and exports as value added

Those finished goods are created with their resources. We get their labor for almost nothing.

This is how mercantilism works

When china snuffs out all foreign competition for a given product other countries have to buy from them or do without

They on the other hand can pick and choose where they buy their raw materials

You have some imagination. Have you read the OP?

Translation: I think for myself rather than reciting nonsense fed to me by the globalists

 

[Brain357]

They send us their resources for next to nothing. Your economics knowledge seems really limited...

No. China sends finished goods

China imports only raw material and exports as value added

Those finished goods are created with their resources. We get their labor for almost nothing.

This is how mercantilism works

When china snuffs out all foreign competition for a given product other countries have to buy from them or do without

They on the other hand can pick and choose where they buy their raw materials

You have some imagination. Have you read the OP?

Translation: I think for myself rather than reciting nonsense fed to me by the globalists

You see the policy fail in the OP and want more failure.

 

[candycorn]

U.S. trade gap with China reaches all-time high under Trump

U.S. Posts Record Annual Trade Deficit


Trump is a dumb fuck. A seriously stupid dumb fuck.

Every kid learns in middle school about what a disaster trade wars are.

Maybe libs should learn about the dangers of chinese mercantilism as well as tariffs

how long have the tariffs been in place under the blob?

when can we expect a trade surplus? That is the goal...is it not? Or is the goal something else?

 

[Mac-7]

U.S. trade gap with China reaches all-time high under Trump

U.S. Posts Record Annual Trade Deficit


Trump is a dumb fuck. A seriously stupid dumb fuck.

Every kid learns in middle school about what a disaster trade wars are.

Maybe libs should learn about the dangers of chinese mercantilism as well as tariffs

how long have the tariffs been in place under the blob?

when can we expect a trade surplus? That is the goal...is it not? Or is the goal something else?

40 months is not long enough to reverse 40 years of bad trade policy

 

[sparky]

Economists agree that America is better off when every market in the world is dominated by products made in china?

Globalists....

I have nothing against fair trade with non enemies

well we trade WITH enemies as well....

But the chinese are mercantilists who use trade as a weapon

So do we, as well as sanctions

We get their labor for almost nothing.

Yes we do

40 months is not long enough to reverse 40 years of bad trade policy

Nope

and boy did we scream blue bloody murder over NAFTA knowing it too

~S~

 

[Mac-7]

Economists agree that America is better off when every market in the world is dominated by products made in china?

I find that hard to believe

They agree that trade is good for obvious reasons. The OP is a great example of how trying to control trade doesn’t work. You want more failure?

I have nothing against fair trade with non enemies

But the chinese are mercantilists who use trade as a weapon

They send us their resources for next to nothing. Your economics knowledge seems really limited...

No. China sends finished goods

China imports only raw material and exports as value added

Those finished goods are created with their resources. We get their labor for almost nothing.

Quasi slaves in a communist dictatorship like china can work for nothing

But free men and women in America cannot and should not

 

[Mac-7]

Economists agree that America is better off when every market in the world is dominated by products made in china?

Globalists....

I have nothing against fair trade with non enemies

well we trade WITH enemies as well....

But the chinese are mercantilists who use trade as a weapon

So do we, as well as sanctions

We get their labor for almost nothing.

Yes we do

40 months is not long enough to reverse 40 years of bad trade policy

Nope

and boy did we scream blue bloody murder over NAFTA knowing it too

~S~

Yes we have practiced mercantilism in the past

The term “banana republic” stems from our disdain for central American countries that allowed us to dominate their economy and exploit their natural resources

Libs are suggesting that we should become a banana republic to china

 

[Brain357]

They agree that trade is good for obvious reasons. The OP is a great example of how trying to control trade doesn’t work. You want more failure?

I have nothing against fair trade with non enemies

But the chinese are mercantilists who use trade as a weapon

They send us their resources for next to nothing. Your economics knowledge seems really limited...

No. China sends finished goods

China imports only raw material and exports as value added

Those finished goods are created with their resources. We get their labor for almost nothing.

Quasi slaves in a communist dictatorship like china can work for nothing

But free men and women in America cannot and should not

We don’t. we have plenty of jobs and wealth. What is the problem?

 

[mikegriffith1]

So you cite an article from the World Socialist Web Site and just assume that somehow, someway Trump's tariffs on foreign steel are at fault! Really?! I mean, really?!

How do you think American steel would be doing if foreign nations were able to dump their subsidized steel into our economy? Hey? FYI, *all* the steel companies have cheered Trump's protective tariffs on foreign steel.

Steel production is slowing down because U.S. manufacturing is slowing down after nearly 18 months of near-record growth.

 

[Brain357]

Economists agree that America is better off when every market in the world is dominated by products made in china?

Globalists....

I have nothing against fair trade with non enemies

well we trade WITH enemies as well....

But the chinese are mercantilists who use trade as a weapon

So do we, as well as sanctions

We get their labor for almost nothing.

Yes we do

40 months is not long enough to reverse 40 years of bad trade policy

Nope

and boy did we scream blue bloody murder over NAFTA knowing it too

~S~

Yes we have practiced mercantilism in the past

The term “banana republic” stems from our disdain for central American countries that allowed us to dominate their economy and exploit their natural resources

Libs are suggesting that we should become a banana republic to china

You are aware that even trump isn’t suggesting we stop trading with China?

 

[Mac-7]

I have nothing against fair trade with non enemies

But the chinese are mercantilists who use trade as a weapon

They send us their resources for next to nothing. Your economics knowledge seems really limited...

No. China sends finished goods

China imports only raw material and exports as value added

Those finished goods are created with their resources. We get their labor for almost nothing.

Quasi slaves in a communist dictatorship like china can work for nothing

But free men and women in America cannot and should not

We don’t. we have plenty of jobs and wealth. What is the problem?

I disagree and so do libs in unguarded moments when they complain about the unequal distribution of wealth

We need more jobs and rising wages that will not happen when most of our stuff is made in china

 

[Mac-7]

Economists agree that America is better off when every market in the world is dominated by products made in china?

Globalists....

I have nothing against fair trade with non enemies

well we trade WITH enemies as well....

But the chinese are mercantilists who use trade as a weapon

So do we, as well as sanctions

We get their labor for almost nothing.

Yes we do

40 months is not long enough to reverse 40 years of bad trade policy

Nope

and boy did we scream blue bloody murder over NAFTA knowing it too

~S~

Yes we have practiced mercantilism in the past

The term “banana republic” stems from our disdain for central American countries that allowed us to dominate their economy and exploit their natural resources

Libs are suggesting that we should become a banana republic to china

You are aware that even trump isn’t suggesting we stop trading with China?

If its really trade china should buy as much from America as we buy from them

 

[Brain357]

So you cite an article from the World Socialist Web Site and just assume that somehow, someway Trump's tariffs on foreign steel are at fault! Really?! I mean, really?!

How do you think American steel would be doing if foreign nations were able to dump their subsidized steel into our economy? Hey? FYI, *all* the steel companies have cheered Trump's protective tariffs on foreign steel.

Steel production is slowing down because U.S. manufacturing is slowing down after nearly 18 months of near-record growth.

Yeah when manufacturing has to pay a higher price for steel production slows... our products become less competitive.

 

[Brain357]

They send us their resources for next to nothing. Your economics knowledge seems really limited...

No. China sends finished goods

China imports only raw material and exports as value added

Those finished goods are created with their resources. We get their labor for almost nothing.

Quasi slaves in a communist dictatorship like china can work for nothing

But free men and women in America cannot and should not

We don’t. we have plenty of jobs and wealth. What is the problem?

I disagree and so do libs in unguarded moments when they complain about the unequal distribution of wealth

We need more jobs and rising wages that will not happen when most of our stuff is made in china

Unemployment is incredibly low and we have lots of wealth. China ain’t the problem.

 

[Brain357]

Economists agree that America is better off when every market in the world is dominated by products made in china?

Globalists....

I have nothing against fair trade with non enemies

well we trade WITH enemies as well....

But the chinese are mercantilists who use trade as a weapon

So do we, as well as sanctions

We get their labor for almost nothing.

Yes we do

40 months is not long enough to reverse 40 years of bad trade policy

Nope

and boy did we scream blue bloody murder over NAFTA knowing it too

~S~

Yes we have practiced mercantilism in the past

The term “banana republic” stems from our disdain for central American countries that allowed us to dominate their economy and exploit their natural resources

Libs are suggesting that we should become a banana republic to china

You are aware that even trump isn’t suggesting we stop trading with China?

If its really trade china should buy as much from America as we buy from them

Why? Do you buy as much from the grocery store as they buy from you?

 

[Mac-7]

Economists agree that America is better off when every market in the world is dominated by products made in china?

Globalists....

I have nothing against fair trade with non enemies

well we trade WITH enemies as well....

But the chinese are mercantilists who use trade as a weapon

So do we, as well as sanctions

We get their labor for almost nothing.

Yes we do

40 months is not long enough to reverse 40 years of bad trade policy

Nope

and boy did we scream blue bloody murder over NAFTA knowing it too

~S~

Yes we have practiced mercantilism in the past

The term “banana republic” stems from our disdain for central American countries that allowed us to dominate their economy and exploit their natural resources

Libs are suggesting that we should become a banana republic to china

You are aware that even trump isn’t suggesting we stop trading with China?

If its really trade china should buy as much from America as we buy from them

Why? Do you buy as much from the grocery store as they buy from you?

If I dont sell as much as I buy I’m going to be broke pretty soon

and so will America

besides the grocer is not a communist dictatorship building a military to kick our ass with someday

and doing it with the money I give him

 

[Brain357]

Globalists....

well we trade WITH enemies as well....


So do we, as well as sanctions

Yes we do

Nope

and boy did we scream blue bloody murder over NAFTA knowing it too

~S~

Yes we have practiced mercantilism in the past

The term “banana republic” stems from our disdain for central American countries that allowed us to dominate their economy and exploit their natural resources

Libs are suggesting that we should become a banana republic to china

You are aware that even trump isn’t suggesting we stop trading with China?

If its really trade china should buy as much from America as we buy from them

Why? Do you buy as much from the grocery store as they buy from you?

If I dont sell as much as I buy I’m going to be broke pretty soon

and so will America

besides the grocer is not a communist dictatorship building a military to kick our ass with someday

and doing it with the money I give him

They send us real products, they get paper. We are just fine.