Donald Trump Says U.S. Will Recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s Capital

[Eloy]

Your perspective is fundamentally false and no answers to your rhetorical questions will persuade you otherwise.

Oh, I assure you those questions are not the least bit rhetorical. I fully intend for you to attempt to make an answer to them. But you won't. Because you refuse to understand that Gaza, in particular, IS acting on its own self-determination and thus have responsibility for their hostile and violent actions (their "armed resistance).

I am curious as to what you think is fundamentally false about BOTH the Jewish people and the Arab Palestinian people having States and self-determination, with a peace treaty and goodwill between them.

The Israelis want land more than peace.

Nonsense. Israel abandoned Gaza ...

Massacres of children and civilians, dropping white phosphorous on civilian neighborhoods, destroying hospitals, schools, water treatment plants, precision rocketing children at play, sniping at schoolchildren, blockading, and restricting the importation of food and materials to undo the damage of onslaughts, may be your idea of abandoning Gaza. It is not mine.

 

[Hollie]

Your perspective is fundamentally false and no answers to your rhetorical questions will persuade you otherwise.

Oh, I assure you those questions are not the least bit rhetorical. I fully intend for you to attempt to make an answer to them. But you won't. Because you refuse to understand that Gaza, in particular, IS acting on its own self-determination and thus have responsibility for their hostile and violent actions (their "armed resistance).

I am curious as to what you think is fundamentally false about BOTH the Jewish people and the Arab Palestinian people having States and self-determination, with a peace treaty and goodwill between them.

The Israelis want land more than peace.

Nonsense. Israel abandoned Gaza ...

Massacres of children and civilians, dropping white phosphorous on civilian neighborhoods, destroying hospitals, schools, water treatment plants, precision rocketing children at play, sniping at schoolchildren, blockading, and restricting the importation of food and materials to undo the damage of onslaughts, may be your idea of abandoning Gaza. It is not mine.

Spend a lot of time at press TV?

 

[Eloy]

Your perspective is fundamentally false and no answers to your rhetorical questions will persuade you otherwise.

Oh, I assure you those questions are not the least bit rhetorical. I fully intend for you to attempt to make an answer to them. But you won't. Because you refuse to understand that Gaza, in particular, IS acting on its own self-determination and thus have responsibility for their hostile and violent actions (their "armed resistance).

I am curious as to what you think is fundamentally false about BOTH the Jewish people and the Arab Palestinian people having States and self-determination, with a peace treaty and goodwill between them.

The Israelis want land more than peace.

Nonsense. Israel abandoned Gaza ...

Massacres of children and civilians, dropping white phosphorous on civilian neighborhoods, destroying hospitals, schools, water treatment plants, precision rocketing children at play, sniping at schoolchildren, blockading, and restricting the importation of food and materials to undo the damage of onslaughts, may be your idea of abandoning Gaza. It is not mine.

Spend a lot of time at press TV?

I wrote the truth.

 

[Phoenall]

Your perspective is fundamentally false and no answers to your rhetorical questions will persuade you otherwise.

Oh, I assure you those questions are not the least bit rhetorical. I fully intend for you to attempt to make an answer to them. But you won't. Because you refuse to understand that Gaza, in particular, IS acting on its own self-determination and thus have responsibility for their hostile and violent actions (their "armed resistance).

I am curious as to what you think is fundamentally false about BOTH the Jewish people and the Arab Palestinian people having States and self-determination, with a peace treaty and goodwill between them.

The Israelis want land more than peace.

Nope as they have enough with all the empty lands in the Negev. Once the UN mans up and enforces the terms of the mandate in full Israel will have its full quota of palestine less gaza.

 

[Phoenall]

Oh, I assure you those questions are not the least bit rhetorical. I fully intend for you to attempt to make an answer to them. But you won't. Because you refuse to understand that Gaza, in particular, IS acting on its own self-determination and thus have responsibility for their hostile and violent actions (their "armed resistance).

I am curious as to what you think is fundamentally false about BOTH the Jewish people and the Arab Palestinian people having States and self-determination, with a peace treaty and goodwill between them.

The Israelis want land more than peace.

Nonsense. Israel abandoned Gaza ...

Massacres of children and civilians, dropping white phosphorous on civilian neighborhoods, destroying hospitals, schools, water treatment plants, precision rocketing children at play, sniping at schoolchildren, blockading, and restricting the importation of food and materials to undo the damage of onslaughts, may be your idea of abandoning Gaza. It is not mine.

Spend a lot of time at press TV?

I wrote the truth.

No you wrote the truth as islamonazi terrorist see it, not as the reality of what happened.

No massacres other than those engineered by hamas
No W.P used illegally at the time
No hospitals destroyed
No schools destroyed
No working water treatment plants targeted
No precision targeting of children ( actually shown to be hamas who killed them )
No sniping at schoolchildren


A legal blockade in place that the UN has deemed to be legal, and 2,500 kcal of food per person delivered daily to gaza ( WHO says 1200kcal is all that is needed to maintain health and body weight )


Spend even more time on the hate sites that spread the LIES above without producing any evidence to support the claims ?

 

[Shusha]

Massacres of children and civilians, dropping white phosphorous on civilian neighborhoods, destroying hospitals, schools, water treatment plants, precision rocketing children at play, sniping at schoolchildren, blockading, and restricting the importation of food and materials to undo the damage of onslaughts, may be your idea of abandoning Gaza. It is not mine.

Most of these are false statements. Do you not think Gazans have any responsibility for their own behaviour? IF the Gazans want peace and economic trade with neighboring Israel why don't they just stop attacking?

 

[Eloy]

The Israelis want land more than peace.

Nonsense. Israel abandoned Gaza ...

Massacres of children and civilians, dropping white phosphorous on civilian neighborhoods, destroying hospitals, schools, water treatment plants, precision rocketing children at play, sniping at schoolchildren, blockading, and restricting the importation of food and materials to undo the damage of onslaughts, may be your idea of abandoning Gaza. It is not mine.

Spend a lot of time at press TV?

I wrote the truth.

No you wrote the truth as islamonazi terrorist see it, not as the reality of what happened.

No massacres other than those engineered by hamas
No W.P used illegally at the time
No hospitals destroyed
No schools destroyed
No working water treatment plants targeted
No precision targeting of children ( actually shown to be hamas who killed them )
No sniping at schoolchildren


A legal blockade in place that the UN has deemed to be legal, and 2,500 kcal of food per person delivered daily to gaza ( WHO says 1200kcal is all that is needed to maintain health and body weight )


Spend even more time on the hate sites that spread the LIES above without producing any evidence to support the claims ?

The evidence of Israeli cruelty is there for all of us to see for ourselves on television and in our newspapers.

 

[Eloy]

Massacres of children and civilians, dropping white phosphorous on civilian neighborhoods, destroying hospitals, schools, water treatment plants, precision rocketing children at play, sniping at schoolchildren, blockading, and restricting the importation of food and materials to undo the damage of onslaughts, may be your idea of abandoning Gaza. It is not mine.

Most of these are false statements. Do you not think Gazans have any responsibility for their own behaviour? IF the Gazans want peace and economic trade with neighboring Israel why don't they just stop attacking?

To justify Israeli brutality by blaming the Palestinian victims is obscene.

 

[Shusha]

To justify Israeli brutality by blaming the Palestinian victims is obscene.

So I'm confused. Are you denying that Gaza attacks Israel. Or are you saying that Gaza does attack Israel but should be permitted to do without consequences.

 

[Phoenall]

Nonsense. Israel abandoned Gaza ...

Massacres of children and civilians, dropping white phosphorous on civilian neighborhoods, destroying hospitals, schools, water treatment plants, precision rocketing children at play, sniping at schoolchildren, blockading, and restricting the importation of food and materials to undo the damage of onslaughts, may be your idea of abandoning Gaza. It is not mine.

Spend a lot of time at press TV?

I wrote the truth.

No you wrote the truth as islamonazi terrorist see it, not as the reality of what happened.

No massacres other than those engineered by hamas
No W.P used illegally at the time
No hospitals destroyed
No schools destroyed
No working water treatment plants targeted
No precision targeting of children ( actually shown to be hamas who killed them )
No sniping at schoolchildren


A legal blockade in place that the UN has deemed to be legal, and 2,500 kcal of food per person delivered daily to gaza ( WHO says 1200kcal is all that is needed to maintain health and body weight )


Spend even more time on the hate sites that spread the LIES above without producing any evidence to support the claims ?

The evidence of Israeli cruelty is there for all of us to see for ourselves on television and in our newspapers.

Where is this then as all I see is Israel's responce to acts of war, war crimes, terrorism and violence. And at the same time hamas forcing civilians to be human shields and propaganda figures.

Have yiu heard about the new seperation barrier going up in Syria because it is a legal way to stop terrorists from attacking civilians ?

 

[Eloy]

To justify Israeli brutality by blaming the Palestinian victims is obscene.

So I'm confused. Are you denying that Gaza attacks Israel. Or are you saying that Gaza does attack Israel but should be permitted to do without consequences.

The people of Gaza have a right to resist the Israeli blockade and military crimes, of course.

 

[Eloy]

Massacres of children and civilians, dropping white phosphorous on civilian neighborhoods, destroying hospitals, schools, water treatment plants, precision rocketing children at play, sniping at schoolchildren, blockading, and restricting the importation of food and materials to undo the damage of onslaughts, may be your idea of abandoning Gaza. It is not mine.

Spend a lot of time at press TV?

I wrote the truth.

No you wrote the truth as islamonazi terrorist see it, not as the reality of what happened.

No massacres other than those engineered by hamas
No W.P used illegally at the time
No hospitals destroyed
No schools destroyed
No working water treatment plants targeted
No precision targeting of children ( actually shown to be hamas who killed them )
No sniping at schoolchildren


A legal blockade in place that the UN has deemed to be legal, and 2,500 kcal of food per person delivered daily to gaza ( WHO says 1200kcal is all that is needed to maintain health and body weight )


Spend even more time on the hate sites that spread the LIES above without producing any evidence to support the claims ?

The evidence of Israeli cruelty is there for all of us to see for ourselves on television and in our newspapers.

Where is this then as all I see is Israel's responce to acts of war, war crimes, terrorism and violence. And at the same time hamas forcing civilians to be human shields and propaganda figures.

Have yiu heard about the new seperation barrier going up in Syria because it is a legal way to stop terrorists from attacking civilians ?

You are free to see what you want.

 

[Shusha]

The people of Gaza have a right to resist the Israeli blockade and military crimes, of course.

No one is denying the "right" of Gazans to "armed resistance". The question was whether or not they have the right to attack Israel without consequence. Without Israel defending itself and its citizens. Do you think that nations, generally, should be prepared to accept attacks against its citizens and not respond? At all. Ever.

The question was whether or not Israel has the right, and indeed, the obligation, to defend its innocent civilians from attack.

The follow up question is this: IF the intention of Gazans is to remove the blockade and to develop peaceful relations and economic trade with a neighbouring nations -- how does armed resistance help to achieve that goal? Especially the low level and ultimately ineffectual armed resistance currently enacted.

It seems to me that armed resistance is directly opposed to this goal of peace. It seems to me that the best way to remove the blockade is to demonstrate peaceful intentions. And cooperation.

So why don't Gazans just stop attacking?

 

[Eloy]

The people of Gaza have a right to resist the Israeli blockade and military crimes, of course.

No one is denying the "right" of Gazans to "armed resistance". The question was whether or not they have the right to attack Israel without consequence. Without Israel defending itself and its citizens. Do you think that nations, generally, should be prepared to accept attacks against its citizens and not respond? At all. Ever.

The question was whether or not Israel has the right, and indeed, the obligation, to defend its innocent civilians from attack.

The follow up question is this: IF the intention of Gazans is to remove the blockade and to develop peaceful relations and economic trade with a neighbouring nations -- how does armed resistance help to achieve that goal? Especially the low level and ultimately ineffectual armed resistance currently enacted.

It seems to me that armed resistance is directly opposed to this goal of peace. It seems to me that the best way to remove the blockade is to demonstrate peaceful intentions. And cooperation.

So why don't Gazans just stop attacking?

Palestinian babies, toddlers and schoolchildren, their mothers and civilian fathers did nothing to any Israeli and do not deserve to be slaughtered. Show a measure of human empathy.

 

[Phoenall]

To justify Israeli brutality by blaming the Palestinian victims is obscene.

So I'm confused. Are you denying that Gaza attacks Israel. Or are you saying that Gaza does attack Israel but should be permitted to do without consequences.

The people of Gaza have a right to resist the Israeli blockade and military crimes, of course.

This does not include firing illegal weapons at Israeli civilians and targetting children. And we have yet to see any mention officially of any crimes done by Israel. What you deem to be a crime is actually covered by International laws and the Geneva conventions and are well within the parameters laid down. You confuse the war crimes of hamas with the legal responses of Israel to those war crimes, violence and terrorism

 

[Phoenall]

Spend a lot of time at press TV?

I wrote the truth.

No you wrote the truth as islamonazi terrorist see it, not as the reality of what happened.

No massacres other than those engineered by hamas
No W.P used illegally at the time
No hospitals destroyed
No schools destroyed
No working water treatment plants targeted
No precision targeting of children ( actually shown to be hamas who killed them )
No sniping at schoolchildren


A legal blockade in place that the UN has deemed to be legal, and 2,500 kcal of food per person delivered daily to gaza ( WHO says 1200kcal is all that is needed to maintain health and body weight )


Spend even more time on the hate sites that spread the LIES above without producing any evidence to support the claims ?

The evidence of Israeli cruelty is there for all of us to see for ourselves on television and in our newspapers.

Where is this then as all I see is Israel's responce to acts of war, war crimes, terrorism and violence. And at the same time hamas forcing civilians to be human shields and propaganda figures.

Have yiu heard about the new seperation barrier going up in Syria because it is a legal way to stop terrorists from attacking civilians ?

You are free to see what you want.

In other words you cant find the evidence to support your claims and are now wondering what other untruths you have been told. How about divulging the evidence of these alleged acts of cruelty if they are so obvious, while you are doing it make 100% certain that the same things are not also being done by America or any of the islamic nations surrounding Israel.

 

[Phoenall]

The people of Gaza have a right to resist the Israeli blockade and military crimes, of course.

No one is denying the "right" of Gazans to "armed resistance". The question was whether or not they have the right to attack Israel without consequence. Without Israel defending itself and its citizens. Do you think that nations, generally, should be prepared to accept attacks against its citizens and not respond? At all. Ever.

The question was whether or not Israel has the right, and indeed, the obligation, to defend its innocent civilians from attack.

The follow up question is this: IF the intention of Gazans is to remove the blockade and to develop peaceful relations and economic trade with a neighbouring nations -- how does armed resistance help to achieve that goal? Especially the low level and ultimately ineffectual armed resistance currently enacted.

It seems to me that armed resistance is directly opposed to this goal of peace. It seems to me that the best way to remove the blockade is to demonstrate peaceful intentions. And cooperation.

So why don't Gazans just stop attacking?

Palestinian babies, toddlers and schoolchildren, their mothers and civilian fathers did nothing to any Israeli and do not deserve to be slaughtered. Show a measure of human empathy.

Then tell hamas to stop planting munitions in their homes, firing illagal weapons from their property, using the buildings for military purposes and forcing the civilians to act as human shields. Look at the Geneva conventions to see just what hamas as the elected government should be doing to safeguard the safety of its civilians, and you will see that hamas is doing the exact opposite making them the criminals who should be facing charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity.

Time for you to show a measure of human intelligence and understanding and stop letting your hate rule your brain.

 

[Eloy]

To justify Israeli brutality by blaming the Palestinian victims is obscene.

So I'm confused. Are you denying that Gaza attacks Israel. Or are you saying that Gaza does attack Israel but should be permitted to do without consequences.

The people of Gaza have a right to resist the Israeli blockade and military crimes, of course.

This does not include firing illegal weapons at Israeli civilians and targetting children. And we have yet to see any mention officially of any crimes done by Israel. What you deem to be a crime is actually covered by International laws and the Geneva conventions and are well within the parameters laid down. You confuse the war crimes of hamas with the legal responses of Israel to those war crimes, violence and terrorism

The reason you have not seen Israelis being convicted by the International Criminal Court (ICC) is because Palestine was not a member state of the ICC until April of last year.

During a ceremony in April 2015, the ICC's Second Vice-President, Judge Kuniko Ozaki, presented the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Palestine, Dr. Riad Al-Malki, with a special edition of the Rome Statute, as a symbol of their joint commitment to the rule of law.

By virtue of Palestine's membership, the ICC now has jurisdiction over serious crimes in violation of international law, including war crimes and crimes against humanity committed on or from Palestinian territory. Various countries have criticized Israel over the years, For example, the European Union has recently condemned Israel’s continued settlement activity as illegal under international law. Findings of the ICC will be added to these in due course.

 

[Hollie]

To justify Israeli brutality by blaming the Palestinian victims is obscene.

So I'm confused. Are you denying that Gaza attacks Israel. Or are you saying that Gaza does attack Israel but should be permitted to do without consequences.

The people of Gaza have a right to resist the Israeli blockade and military crimes, of course.

This does not include firing illegal weapons at Israeli civilians and targetting children. And we have yet to see any mention officially of any crimes done by Israel. What you deem to be a crime is actually covered by International laws and the Geneva conventions and are well within the parameters laid down. You confuse the war crimes of hamas with the legal responses of Israel to those war crimes, violence and terrorism

The reason you have not seen Israelis being convicted by the International Criminal Court (ICC) is because Palestine was not a member state of the ICC until April of last year.

During a ceremony in April 2015, the ICC's Second Vice-President, Judge Kuniko Ozaki, presented the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Palestine, Dr. Riad Al-Malki, with a special edition of the Rome Statute, as a symbol of their joint commitment to the rule of law.

By virtue of Palestine's membership, the ICC now has jurisdiction over serious crimes in violation of international law, including war crimes and crimes against humanity committed on or from Palestinian territory. Various countries have criticized Israel over the years, For example, the European Union has recently condemned Israel’s continued settlement activity as illegal under international law. Findings of the ICC will be added to these in due course.

"During a ceremony in April 2015, the ICC's Second Vice-President, Judge Kuniko Ozaki, presented the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Palestine, Dr. Riad Al-Malki, with a special edition of the Rome Statute, as a symbol of their joint commitment to the rule of law."


Well that's interesting. During the ceremony, was there a special award given to Hamas noting the millions of dollars in welfare fraud money spent to further tunnel building and arms purchases?

 

[toomuchtime_]

Your perspective is fundamentally false and no answers to your rhetorical questions will persuade you otherwise.

Oh, I assure you those questions are not the least bit rhetorical. I fully intend for you to attempt to make an answer to them. But you won't. Because you refuse to understand that Gaza, in particular, IS acting on its own self-determination and thus have responsibility for their hostile and violent actions (their "armed resistance).

I am curious as to what you think is fundamentally false about BOTH the Jewish people and the Arab Palestinian people having States and self-determination, with a peace treaty and goodwill between them.

The Israelis want land more than peace.

Nonsense. Israel abandoned Gaza ...

Massacres of children and civilians, dropping white phosphorous on civilian neighborhoods, destroying hospitals, schools, water treatment plants, precision rocketing children at play, sniping at schoolchildren, blockading, and restricting the importation of food and materials to undo the damage of onslaughts, may be your idea of abandoning Gaza. It is not mine.

Of course, none of this happened and the IDF has the best record on any modern military, including the US and NATO of avoiding civilian casualties in asymmetric warfare. The civilian casualties the Palestinians suffered were entirely due to their policy of using civilians as human shields.