Donald Trump Says U.S. Will Recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s Capital

[ForeverYoung436]

I read that and all I see is $$$$

They have a pill for that.

They have a pill for welfare leeches?

The best one going a 9mm lead pellet with greetting from God written on it. Then when the arab muslims have finally been sorted the world will have peace.

I wonder which hate site you read that from as it forgot to add that islam in the M.E. leeches 10 times more money from the US to line their Swiss bank accounts with than Israel will receive over the next 5 years

Israel just got granted their biggest welfare deal ever..
And I am aware other places get it too. But ISRAEL was the discussion. I am against all foreign aid. Well, pretty much

I agree with you. I agree with Israel's general cause, but why does Netanyahu have to request so much money? If taken together, the Arab/Muslim countries probably get alot more money out of the U.S., but it still doesn't negate the fact that Israel is smart enough to make it on its own, without anyone's help.

 

[TNHarley]

They have a pill for that.

They have a pill for welfare leeches?

The best one going a 9mm lead pellet with greetting from God written on it. Then when the arab muslims have finally been sorted the world will have peace.

I wonder which hate site you read that from as it forgot to add that islam in the M.E. leeches 10 times more money from the US to line their Swiss bank accounts with than Israel will receive over the next 5 years

Israel just got granted their biggest welfare deal ever..
And I am aware other places get it too. But ISRAEL was the discussion. I am against all foreign aid. Well, pretty much

I agree with you. I agree with Israel's general cause, but why does Netanyahu have to request so much money? If taken together, the Arab/Muslim countries probably get alot more money out of the U.S., but it still doesn't negate the fact that Israel is smart enough to make it on its own, without anyone's help.

They all are...
IDK its for defense.. maybe they are freaked out about Iran. Or maybe Obama just coddles them like the rest of the Establishment?

 

[Bleipriester]

So Trump will move the US embassy to Jerusalem. Not the end of the world I guess.

Possibly the start of a new one that will have islam worried as to who will be next for the chop ?

It is certainly everything Israel can expect from Trump.

 

[toomuchtime_]

They have a pill for that.

They have a pill for welfare leeches?

The best one going a 9mm lead pellet with greetting from God written on it. Then when the arab muslims have finally been sorted the world will have peace.

I wonder which hate site you read that from as it forgot to add that islam in the M.E. leeches 10 times more money from the US to line their Swiss bank accounts with than Israel will receive over the next 5 years

Israel just got granted their biggest welfare deal ever..
And I am aware other places get it too. But ISRAEL was the discussion. I am against all foreign aid. Well, pretty much

I agree with you. I agree with Israel's general cause, but why does Netanyahu have to request so much money? If taken together, the Arab/Muslim countries probably get alot more money out of the U.S., but it still doesn't negate the fact that Israel is smart enough to make it on its own, without anyone's help.

Israel could survive without America's military aid, but the question is what would it have to do to survive without the US aid that allows it to build or acquire so much advanced weaponry and would that be in America's best interests?

Because Israel has no strategic depth it cannot sustain a major initial loss in a war and because of its small population and the fact that its army is a citizens army, its economy cannot sustain a prolonged war of any size, so without US aid, it would have to launch preemptive strikes against potential enemies to prevent them from being capable of striking Israel. This was the policy Israel had before the US decided to sharply increase military aid to Israel during the 1973 war. Early in the war, Israel requested significant military aid from the US and a policy decision was made in Washington that although the Pentagon believed Israel would win this war without US aid, but that providing that aid would buy the US some influence over the peace that followed. This influence Nixon and Kissinger had purchased was what allowed Jimmy Carter to run the peace negotiations with Egypt that led to the USSR being effectively thrown out of the ME.

You might argue that the Cold War is over and the USSR is gone, so why does the US have to continue to provide military aid to Israel and Egypt? Because as we see now, when the US fails to take effective actions to establish peace in the ME, as Obama failed to do by withdrawing US troops from Iraq and in failing to settle the civil war in Syria, other actors like Iran and Russia step in, killing hundreds of thousands of people, making millions of them homeless refugees flooding Europe and inciting a new spread of terrorism in Europe and the US.

Today, the one stable, peaceful region in the ME region is the border between Israel and Egypt and that peace is based on the principle establish in the treaty between these two countries that the US would supply each country with sufficient advanced weaponry to deter the other from attacking. Because Egypt is not Israel's only potential enemy that principle has been extended to deter wars between Israel and other Arab nations.

They have a pill for that.

They have a pill for welfare leeches?

The best one going a 9mm lead pellet with greetting from God written on it. Then when the arab muslims have finally been sorted the world will have peace.

I wonder which hate site you read that from as it forgot to add that islam in the M.E. leeches 10 times more money from the US to line their Swiss bank accounts with than Israel will receive over the next 5 years

Israel just got granted their biggest welfare deal ever..
And I am aware other places get it too. But ISRAEL was the discussion. I am against all foreign aid. Well, pretty much

I agree with you. I agree with Israel's general cause, but why does Netanyahu have to request so much money? If taken together, the Arab/Muslim countries probably get alot more money out of the U.S., but it still doesn't negate the fact that Israel is smart enough to make it on its own, without anyone's help.

The real question is why did Obama want to give Israel so much money and why did Congress want to them even more?

The answer is, to try to persuade Israel it is not necessary to blow up Iran's nuclear weapons program and associated military programs or to reoccupy Gaza to keep its citizens safe.

 

[Phoenall]

I read that and all I see is $$$$

They have a pill for that.

They have a pill for welfare leeches?

The best one going a 9mm lead pellet with greetting from God written on it. Then when the arab muslims have finally been sorted the world will have peace.

I wonder which hate site you read that from as it forgot to add that islam in the M.E. leeches 10 times more money from the US to line their Swiss bank accounts with than Israel will receive over the next 5 years

Israel just got granted their biggest welfare deal ever..
And I am aware other places get it too. But ISRAEL was the discussion. I am against all foreign aid. Well, pretty much

Even when it helps your nations economy and keeps hundreds if not thousands in work. Every penny Israel receives has to be spent in the US, that is not aid that is a strings attached loan

 

[TNHarley]

They have a pill for that.

They have a pill for welfare leeches?

The best one going a 9mm lead pellet with greetting from God written on it. Then when the arab muslims have finally been sorted the world will have peace.

I wonder which hate site you read that from as it forgot to add that islam in the M.E. leeches 10 times more money from the US to line their Swiss bank accounts with than Israel will receive over the next 5 years

Israel just got granted their biggest welfare deal ever..
And I am aware other places get it too. But ISRAEL was the discussion. I am against all foreign aid. Well, pretty much

Even when it helps your nations economy and keeps hundreds if not thousands in work. Every penny Israel receives has to be spent in the US, that is not aid that is a strings attached loan

It used to not be. And i don't think that is good enough reason. Its still OUR money to be spent on US. Or it should be. But instead we give aid to like 96% of countries. While Americans starve and go without basic needs.

 

[Phoenall]

Palestinians in Gaza are not allowed live in peace as they are massacred every once in a while, men women and children by the Israelis who control their air space, territorial waters, and their border, deciding what the people are allowed to export and import. The Israelis keep Gaza as a massive Konzentrationslager as they go about destroying ahe inhabitants who suffer extreme poverty and deprivation in the meantime.

The conflict is never going to get resolved unless the Gazans, in this example, take some responsibility for their actions.

Cross border exports and imports are possible between peaceful countries. Nations do it all the time. But why would any nation want to have trade agreements with a hostile entity actively engaged in "armed resistance"?

What kind of government permits its citizens to suffer extreme poverty and deprivation by taking resources away from them and using them for "armed resistance"? Should that kind of government be accepted by the international community?

The Gazans most certainly would be "allowed" to live in peace if they gave up their "armed resistance". They already have a defined territory, a government, the freedom to choose peace. Why don't they do it?

Your perspective is fundamentally false and no answers to your rhetorical questions will persuade you otherwise.

How about the facts and the truth to make you change yours.

Do you agree with the UN that hamas is firing illegal weapons at Israel that constitute a war crime.

Do you agree that for Israel to lift the blockade all hamas need do is follow the terms of the Geneva conventions and International laws covering any blockade

Do you agree that hamas leadership should be made to stand trial for their crimes against humanity and face up to their criminal actions

Now who defined this territory and under which treaty was it singed by Egypt, Israel and the P.A. because until that is in place hamas has no need to follow international law

 

[Shusha]

Your perspective is fundamentally false and no answers to your rhetorical questions will persuade you otherwise.

Oh, I assure you those questions are not the least bit rhetorical. I fully intend for you to attempt to make an answer to them. But you won't. Because you refuse to understand that Gaza, in particular, IS acting on its own self-determination and thus have responsibility for their hostile and violent actions (their "armed resistance).

I am curious as to what you think is fundamentally false about BOTH the Jewish people and the Arab Palestinian people having States and self-determination, with a peace treaty and goodwill between them.

 

[Phoenall]

They have a pill for welfare leeches?

The best one going a 9mm lead pellet with greetting from God written on it. Then when the arab muslims have finally been sorted the world will have peace.

I wonder which hate site you read that from as it forgot to add that islam in the M.E. leeches 10 times more money from the US to line their Swiss bank accounts with than Israel will receive over the next 5 years

Israel just got granted their biggest welfare deal ever..
And I am aware other places get it too. But ISRAEL was the discussion. I am against all foreign aid. Well, pretty much

I agree with you. I agree with Israel's general cause, but why does Netanyahu have to request so much money? If taken together, the Arab/Muslim countries probably get alot more money out of the U.S., but it still doesn't negate the fact that Israel is smart enough to make it on its own, without anyone's help.

Israel could survive without America's military aid, but the question is what would it have to do to survive without the US aid that allows it to build or acquire so much advanced weaponry and would that be in America's best interests?

Because Israel has no strategic depth it cannot sustain a major initial loss in a war and because of its small population and the fact that its army is a citizens army, its economy cannot sustain a prolonged war of any size, so without US aid, it would have to launch preemptive strikes against potential enemies to prevent them from being capable of striking Israel. This was the policy Israel had before the US decided to sharply increase military aid to Israel during the 1973 war. Early in the war, Israel requested significant military aid from the US and a policy decision was made in Washington that although the Pentagon believed Israel would win this war without US aid, but that providing that aid would buy the US some influence over the peace that followed. This influence Nixon and Kissinger had purchased was what allowed Jimmy Carter to run the peace negotiations with Egypt that led to the USSR being effectively thrown out of the ME.

You might argue that the Cold War is over and the USSR is gone, so why does the US have to continue to provide military aid to Israel and Egypt? Because as we see now, when the US fails to take effective actions to establish peace in the ME, as Obama failed to do by withdrawing US troops from Iraq and in failing to settle the civil war in Syria, other actors like Iran and Russia step in, killing hundreds of thousands of people, making millions of them homeless refugees flooding Europe and inciting a new spread of terrorism in Europe and the US.

Today, the one stable, peaceful region in the ME region is the border between Israel and Egypt and that peace is based on the principle establish in the treaty between these two countries that the US would supply each country with sufficient advanced weaponry to deter the other from attacking. Because Egypt is not Israel's only potential enemy that principle has been extended to deter wars between Israel and other Arab nations.

They have a pill for welfare leeches?

The best one going a 9mm lead pellet with greetting from God written on it. Then when the arab muslims have finally been sorted the world will have peace.

I wonder which hate site you read that from as it forgot to add that islam in the M.E. leeches 10 times more money from the US to line their Swiss bank accounts with than Israel will receive over the next 5 years

Israel just got granted their biggest welfare deal ever..
And I am aware other places get it too. But ISRAEL was the discussion. I am against all foreign aid. Well, pretty much

I agree with you. I agree with Israel's general cause, but why does Netanyahu have to request so much money? If taken together, the Arab/Muslim countries probably get alot more money out of the U.S., but it still doesn't negate the fact that Israel is smart enough to make it on its own, without anyone's help.

The real question is why did Obama want to give Israel so much money and why did Congress want to them even more?

The answer is, to try to persuade Israel it is not necessary to blow up Iran's nuclear weapons program and associated military programs or to reoccupy Gaza to keep its citizens safe.

You are asking the wrong questions, you should be asking can America live without the aid it gives to Israel. Could it afford to start talks with another friendly nation and lose all the military intelligence that Israel supplies ?

 

[Phoenall]

They have a pill for welfare leeches?

The best one going a 9mm lead pellet with greetting from God written on it. Then when the arab muslims have finally been sorted the world will have peace.

I wonder which hate site you read that from as it forgot to add that islam in the M.E. leeches 10 times more money from the US to line their Swiss bank accounts with than Israel will receive over the next 5 years

Israel just got granted their biggest welfare deal ever..
And I am aware other places get it too. But ISRAEL was the discussion. I am against all foreign aid. Well, pretty much

Even when it helps your nations economy and keeps hundreds if not thousands in work. Every penny Israel receives has to be spent in the US, that is not aid that is a strings attached loan

It used to not be. And i don't think that is good enough reason. Its still OUR money to be spent on US. Or it should be. But instead we give aid to like 96% of countries. While Americans starve and go without basic needs.

And how will not giving aid help to redress that situation, the same people will abuse drugs and/or alcohol rather than eat,. The same people will live on the streets because that is what they want to do, it has nothing to do with aid given to other nations but to peoples attitudes. The answer is to build internment camps for the people afflicted and give them a better quality of life and dignity away from the terrors of modern life. Treat them for their mental afflictions and hope that 10% come out the other side cured. But that sounds too much like the Nazi final solution to many people so is not even mentioned.

 

[TNHarley]

They have a pill for welfare leeches?

The best one going a 9mm lead pellet with greetting from God written on it. Then when the arab muslims have finally been sorted the world will have peace.

I wonder which hate site you read that from as it forgot to add that islam in the M.E. leeches 10 times more money from the US to line their Swiss bank accounts with than Israel will receive over the next 5 years

Israel just got granted their biggest welfare deal ever..
And I am aware other places get it too. But ISRAEL was the discussion. I am against all foreign aid. Well, pretty much

Even when it helps your nations economy and keeps hundreds if not thousands in work. Every penny Israel receives has to be spent in the US, that is not aid that is a strings attached loan

It used to not be. And i don't think that is good enough reason. Its still OUR money to be spent on US. Or it should be. But instead we give aid to like 96% of countries. While Americans starve and go without basic needs.

And how will not giving aid help to redress that situation, the same people will abuse drugs and/or alcohol rather than eat,. The same people will live on the streets because that is what they want to do, it has nothing to do with aid given to other nations but to peoples attitudes. The answer is to build internment camps for the people afflicted and give them a better quality of life and dignity away from the terrors of modern life. Treat them for their mental afflictions and hope that 10% come out the other side cured. But that sounds too much like the Nazi final solution to many people so is not even mentioned.

You are obviously very biased and will defend Israel on everything. Good day.

 

[Phoenall]

They have a pill for that.

They have a pill for welfare leeches?

The best one going a 9mm lead pellet with greetting from God written on it. Then when the arab muslims have finally been sorted the world will have peace.

I wonder which hate site you read that from as it forgot to add that islam in the M.E. leeches 10 times more money from the US to line their Swiss bank accounts with than Israel will receive over the next 5 years

Israel just got granted their biggest welfare deal ever..
And I am aware other places get it too. But ISRAEL was the discussion. I am against all foreign aid. Well, pretty much

I agree with you. I agree with Israel's general cause, but why does Netanyahu have to request so much money? If taken together, the Arab/Muslim countries probably get alot more money out of the U.S., but it still doesn't negate the fact that Israel is smart enough to make it on its own, without anyone's help.

Because it suits the US and its super state position to have Israel receive the aid. Israel has asked for a reduction in the past and the US refused as it would lose far too much in the way of defence R&D

 

[toomuchtime_]

They have a pill for welfare leeches?

The best one going a 9mm lead pellet with greetting from God written on it. Then when the arab muslims have finally been sorted the world will have peace.

I wonder which hate site you read that from as it forgot to add that islam in the M.E. leeches 10 times more money from the US to line their Swiss bank accounts with than Israel will receive over the next 5 years

Israel just got granted their biggest welfare deal ever..
And I am aware other places get it too. But ISRAEL was the discussion. I am against all foreign aid. Well, pretty much

I agree with you. I agree with Israel's general cause, but why does Netanyahu have to request so much money? If taken together, the Arab/Muslim countries probably get alot more money out of the U.S., but it still doesn't negate the fact that Israel is smart enough to make it on its own, without anyone's help.

Israel could survive without America's military aid, but the question is what would it have to do to survive without the US aid that allows it to build or acquire so much advanced weaponry and would that be in America's best interests?

Because Israel has no strategic depth it cannot sustain a major initial loss in a war and because of its small population and the fact that its army is a citizens army, its economy cannot sustain a prolonged war of any size, so without US aid, it would have to launch preemptive strikes against potential enemies to prevent them from being capable of striking Israel. This was the policy Israel had before the US decided to sharply increase military aid to Israel during the 1973 war. Early in the war, Israel requested significant military aid from the US and a policy decision was made in Washington that although the Pentagon believed Israel would win this war without US aid, but that providing that aid would buy the US some influence over the peace that followed. This influence Nixon and Kissinger had purchased was what allowed Jimmy Carter to run the peace negotiations with Egypt that led to the USSR being effectively thrown out of the ME.

You might argue that the Cold War is over and the USSR is gone, so why does the US have to continue to provide military aid to Israel and Egypt? Because as we see now, when the US fails to take effective actions to establish peace in the ME, as Obama failed to do by withdrawing US troops from Iraq and in failing to settle the civil war in Syria, other actors like Iran and Russia step in, killing hundreds of thousands of people, making millions of them homeless refugees flooding Europe and inciting a new spread of terrorism in Europe and the US.

Today, the one stable, peaceful region in the ME region is the border between Israel and Egypt and that peace is based on the principle establish in the treaty between these two countries that the US would supply each country with sufficient advanced weaponry to deter the other from attacking. Because Egypt is not Israel's only potential enemy that principle has been extended to deter wars between Israel and other Arab nations.

They have a pill for welfare leeches?

The best one going a 9mm lead pellet with greetting from God written on it. Then when the arab muslims have finally been sorted the world will have peace.

I wonder which hate site you read that from as it forgot to add that islam in the M.E. leeches 10 times more money from the US to line their Swiss bank accounts with than Israel will receive over the next 5 years

Israel just got granted their biggest welfare deal ever..
And I am aware other places get it too. But ISRAEL was the discussion. I am against all foreign aid. Well, pretty much

I agree with you. I agree with Israel's general cause, but why does Netanyahu have to request so much money? If taken together, the Arab/Muslim countries probably get alot more money out of the U.S., but it still doesn't negate the fact that Israel is smart enough to make it on its own, without anyone's help.

The real question is why did Obama want to give Israel so much money and why did Congress want to them even more?

The answer is, to try to persuade Israel it is not necessary to blow up Iran's nuclear weapons program and associated military programs or to reoccupy Gaza to keep its citizens safe.

You are asking the wrong questions, you should be asking can America live without the aid it gives to Israel. Could it afford to start talks with another friendly nation and lose all the military intelligence that Israel supplies ?

America would survive without Israel and Israel would survive without America, but both countries would be worse off.

 

[Phoenall]

The best one going a 9mm lead pellet with greetting from God written on it. Then when the arab muslims have finally been sorted the world will have peace.

I wonder which hate site you read that from as it forgot to add that islam in the M.E. leeches 10 times more money from the US to line their Swiss bank accounts with than Israel will receive over the next 5 years

Israel just got granted their biggest welfare deal ever..
And I am aware other places get it too. But ISRAEL was the discussion. I am against all foreign aid. Well, pretty much

Even when it helps your nations economy and keeps hundreds if not thousands in work. Every penny Israel receives has to be spent in the US, that is not aid that is a strings attached loan

It used to not be. And i don't think that is good enough reason. Its still OUR money to be spent on US. Or it should be. But instead we give aid to like 96% of countries. While Americans starve and go without basic needs.

And how will not giving aid help to redress that situation, the same people will abuse drugs and/or alcohol rather than eat,. The same people will live on the streets because that is what they want to do, it has nothing to do with aid given to other nations but to peoples attitudes. The answer is to build internment camps for the people afflicted and give them a better quality of life and dignity away from the terrors of modern life. Treat them for their mental afflictions and hope that 10% come out the other side cured. But that sounds too much like the Nazi final solution to many people so is not even mentioned.

You are obviously very biased and will defend Israel on everything. Good day.

Far from it as I was called a Nazi not that long ago for my views, then turned by the muslims for the same thing. I keep an open mind and look at all the facts, and that leads to people getting upset over the reality of what they blame the Jews for. As in your claim that stopping aid will stop alcohol abuse and addiction and drug abuse and addiction, when the only thing that will stop these is death

 

[TNHarley]

Israel just got granted their biggest welfare deal ever..
And I am aware other places get it too. But ISRAEL was the discussion. I am against all foreign aid. Well, pretty much

Even when it helps your nations economy and keeps hundreds if not thousands in work. Every penny Israel receives has to be spent in the US, that is not aid that is a strings attached loan

It used to not be. And i don't think that is good enough reason. Its still OUR money to be spent on US. Or it should be. But instead we give aid to like 96% of countries. While Americans starve and go without basic needs.

And how will not giving aid help to redress that situation, the same people will abuse drugs and/or alcohol rather than eat,. The same people will live on the streets because that is what they want to do, it has nothing to do with aid given to other nations but to peoples attitudes. The answer is to build internment camps for the people afflicted and give them a better quality of life and dignity away from the terrors of modern life. Treat them for their mental afflictions and hope that 10% come out the other side cured. But that sounds too much like the Nazi final solution to many people so is not even mentioned.

You are obviously very biased and will defend Israel on everything. Good day.

Far from it as I was called a Nazi not that long ago for my views, then turned by the muslims for the same thing. I keep an open mind and look at all the facts, and that leads to people getting upset over the reality of what they blame the Jews for. As in your claim that stopping aid will stop alcohol abuse and addiction and drug abuse and addiction, when the only thing that will stop these is death

What? LOL

 

[Phoenall]

The best one going a 9mm lead pellet with greetting from God written on it. Then when the arab muslims have finally been sorted the world will have peace.

I wonder which hate site you read that from as it forgot to add that islam in the M.E. leeches 10 times more money from the US to line their Swiss bank accounts with than Israel will receive over the next 5 years

Israel just got granted their biggest welfare deal ever..
And I am aware other places get it too. But ISRAEL was the discussion. I am against all foreign aid. Well, pretty much

I agree with you. I agree with Israel's general cause, but why does Netanyahu have to request so much money? If taken together, the Arab/Muslim countries probably get alot more money out of the U.S., but it still doesn't negate the fact that Israel is smart enough to make it on its own, without anyone's help.

Israel could survive without America's military aid, but the question is what would it have to do to survive without the US aid that allows it to build or acquire so much advanced weaponry and would that be in America's best interests?

Because Israel has no strategic depth it cannot sustain a major initial loss in a war and because of its small population and the fact that its army is a citizens army, its economy cannot sustain a prolonged war of any size, so without US aid, it would have to launch preemptive strikes against potential enemies to prevent them from being capable of striking Israel. This was the policy Israel had before the US decided to sharply increase military aid to Israel during the 1973 war. Early in the war, Israel requested significant military aid from the US and a policy decision was made in Washington that although the Pentagon believed Israel would win this war without US aid, but that providing that aid would buy the US some influence over the peace that followed. This influence Nixon and Kissinger had purchased was what allowed Jimmy Carter to run the peace negotiations with Egypt that led to the USSR being effectively thrown out of the ME.

You might argue that the Cold War is over and the USSR is gone, so why does the US have to continue to provide military aid to Israel and Egypt? Because as we see now, when the US fails to take effective actions to establish peace in the ME, as Obama failed to do by withdrawing US troops from Iraq and in failing to settle the civil war in Syria, other actors like Iran and Russia step in, killing hundreds of thousands of people, making millions of them homeless refugees flooding Europe and inciting a new spread of terrorism in Europe and the US.

Today, the one stable, peaceful region in the ME region is the border between Israel and Egypt and that peace is based on the principle establish in the treaty between these two countries that the US would supply each country with sufficient advanced weaponry to deter the other from attacking. Because Egypt is not Israel's only potential enemy that principle has been extended to deter wars between Israel and other Arab nations.

The best one going a 9mm lead pellet with greetting from God written on it. Then when the arab muslims have finally been sorted the world will have peace.

I wonder which hate site you read that from as it forgot to add that islam in the M.E. leeches 10 times more money from the US to line their Swiss bank accounts with than Israel will receive over the next 5 years

Israel just got granted their biggest welfare deal ever..
And I am aware other places get it too. But ISRAEL was the discussion. I am against all foreign aid. Well, pretty much

I agree with you. I agree with Israel's general cause, but why does Netanyahu have to request so much money? If taken together, the Arab/Muslim countries probably get alot more money out of the U.S., but it still doesn't negate the fact that Israel is smart enough to make it on its own, without anyone's help.

The real question is why did Obama want to give Israel so much money and why did Congress want to them even more?

The answer is, to try to persuade Israel it is not necessary to blow up Iran's nuclear weapons program and associated military programs or to reoccupy Gaza to keep its citizens safe.

You are asking the wrong questions, you should be asking can America live without the aid it gives to Israel. Could it afford to start talks with another friendly nation and lose all the military intelligence that Israel supplies ?

America would survive without Israel and Israel would survive without America, but both countries would be worse off.

Possibly but we will never know while the status quo is in place, and the world is led by Jew haters and nazi's

 

[Phoenall]

Even when it helps your nations economy and keeps hundreds if not thousands in work. Every penny Israel receives has to be spent in the US, that is not aid that is a strings attached loan

It used to not be. And i don't think that is good enough reason. Its still OUR money to be spent on US. Or it should be. But instead we give aid to like 96% of countries. While Americans starve and go without basic needs.

And how will not giving aid help to redress that situation, the same people will abuse drugs and/or alcohol rather than eat,. The same people will live on the streets because that is what they want to do, it has nothing to do with aid given to other nations but to peoples attitudes. The answer is to build internment camps for the people afflicted and give them a better quality of life and dignity away from the terrors of modern life. Treat them for their mental afflictions and hope that 10% come out the other side cured. But that sounds too much like the Nazi final solution to many people so is not even mentioned.

You are obviously very biased and will defend Israel on everything. Good day.

Far from it as I was called a Nazi not that long ago for my views, then turned by the muslims for the same thing. I keep an open mind and look at all the facts, and that leads to people getting upset over the reality of what they blame the Jews for. As in your claim that stopping aid will stop alcohol abuse and addiction and drug abuse and addiction, when the only thing that will stop these is death

What? LOL

Two poster on the M.E. board will substantiate this, and tell you that I am very outspoken on the Jews faults past and present. Just ask sally and Irose

 

[Eloy]

Your perspective is fundamentally false and no answers to your rhetorical questions will persuade you otherwise.

Oh, I assure you those questions are not the least bit rhetorical. I fully intend for you to attempt to make an answer to them. But you won't. Because you refuse to understand that Gaza, in particular, IS acting on its own self-determination and thus have responsibility for their hostile and violent actions (their "armed resistance).

I am curious as to what you think is fundamentally false about BOTH the Jewish people and the Arab Palestinian people having States and self-determination, with a peace treaty and goodwill between them.

The Israelis want land more than peace.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Your perspective is fundamentally false and no answers to your rhetorical questions will persuade you otherwise.

Oh, I assure you those questions are not the least bit rhetorical. I fully intend for you to attempt to make an answer to them. But you won't. Because you refuse to understand that Gaza, in particular, IS acting on its own self-determination and thus have responsibility for their hostile and violent actions (their "armed resistance).

I am curious as to what you think is fundamentally false about BOTH the Jewish people and the Arab Palestinian people having States and self-determination, with a peace treaty and goodwill between them.

The Israelis want land more than peace.

The Israelis already have both, and it seems apparent that the Palestinians are more interested in trying to continue the conflict than in obtaining either land or peace.

 

[Shusha]

Your perspective is fundamentally false and no answers to your rhetorical questions will persuade you otherwise.

Oh, I assure you those questions are not the least bit rhetorical. I fully intend for you to attempt to make an answer to them. But you won't. Because you refuse to understand that Gaza, in particular, IS acting on its own self-determination and thus have responsibility for their hostile and violent actions (their "armed resistance).

I am curious as to what you think is fundamentally false about BOTH the Jewish people and the Arab Palestinian people having States and self-determination, with a peace treaty and goodwill between them.

The Israelis want land more than peace.

Nonsense. Israel abandoned Gaza and all of Areas A and B even without a peace treaty. In other words, Israel ceded territory so that Palestine could come into being -- even without a peace treaty and a final agreement. Israel has, in fact, agreed to "land for peace" over and over and over again. Netanyahu is still offering land for peace, though, perhaps not quite as much as Olmert offered.

If Israel truly wanted land, they could just take it. Its not as though she lacks the resources.

If Palestine truly wanted peace, they could just take it. All they have to do is be peaceful and then sit down and determine the borders. Easy peasy.

What is it that the Gazans want? They have a defined territory. They have self-determination on that territory. What are they still fighting for? What do they want more than peace?

What is it that the "West Bank" Palestinians want? They have a defined territory. They could easily negotiate for an relatively contiguous territory (at this point, probably split north and south with a protected highway between). What do they want more than peace?