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Donald Trump Had a Standing Order for Declassification of Docs

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Donald Trump had a “standing order” that the documents at Mar-A-Lago were to be considered declassified, according to a statement the former president’s office provided to Just the News on Friday.

“The very fact that these documents were present at Mar-a-Lago means they couldn’t have been classified,” the former president’s office stated. “As we can all relate to, everyone ends up having to bring home their work from time to time. American presidents are no different. President Trump, in order to prepare for work the next day, often took documents including classified documents from the Oval Office to the residence.”

“He had a standing order that documents removed from the Oval Office and taken into the residence were deemed to be declassified,” the statement added. “The power to classify and declassify documents rests solely with the President of the United States. The idea that some paper-pushing bureaucrat, with classification authority delegated BY THE PRESIDENT, needs to approve of declassification is absurd.”

The Left in government leadership will attempt to contest that, but the President has very broad powers in this area. Obama himself solidified that power in 2009.

Obama’s executive order no. 13526, issued in 2009, laid out the stringent process all federal officials and agencies needed to follow for declassification but explicitly exempted the sitting president and vice president from having to follow those procedures.

There is also an executive order by George W. Bush in 2003 that covers it.

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And the Presidential Records Act allows the President to keep and maintain records of his administration for 5 years after he leaves office.

So once again this is another nothing burger the dems will choke on

  • Establishes a process by which the President may restrict and the public may obtain access to these records after the President leaves office; specifically, the PRA allows for public access to Presidential records through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) beginning five years after the end of the Administration, but allows the President to invoke as many as six specific restrictions to public access for up to twelve years.
 

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Donald Trump had a “standing order” that the documents at Mar-A-Lago were to be considered declassified, according to a statement the former president’s office provided to Just the News on Friday.
“The very fact that these documents were present at Mar-a-Lago means they couldn’t have been classified,” the former president’s office stated. “As we can all relate to, everyone ends up having to bring home their work from time to time. American presidents are no different. President Trump, in order to prepare for work the next day, often took documents including classified documents from the Oval Office to the residence.”
“He had a standing order that documents removed from the Oval Office and taken into the residence were deemed to be declassified,” the statement added. “The power to classify and declassify documents rests solely with the President of the United States. The idea that some paper-pushing bureaucrat, with classification authority delegated BY THE PRESIDENT, needs to approve of declassification is absurd.”
The Left in government leadership will attempt to contest that, but the President has very broad powers in this area. Obama himself solidified that power in 2009.
Obama’s executive order no. 13526, issued in 2009, laid out the stringent process all federal officials and agencies needed to follow for declassification but explicitly exempted the sitting president and vice president from having to follow those procedures.
There is also an executive order by George W. Bush in 2003 that covers it.
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The FBI were there just WEEKS ago! His lawyers were NOT allowed in. That is NOT standard practice !!! Sorry, DEMOCRATS.
 

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Perhaps you can help me out while you’re doing your victory lap. In your links, to executive orders, it talks about how things that are declassified early are done so because it is in the public interest. In other words, declassified documents are supposed to be released to the public.

I may have missed it, but when exactly did Trump release those documents to the public?
 

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Donald Trump had a “standing order” that the documents at Mar-A-Lago were to be considered declassified, according to a statement the former president’s office provided to Just the News on Friday.
“The very fact that these documents were present at Mar-a-Lago means they couldn’t have been classified,” the former president’s office stated. “As we can all relate to, everyone ends up having to bring home their work from time to time. American presidents are no different. President Trump, in order to prepare for work the next day, often took documents including classified documents from the Oval Office to the residence.”
“He had a standing order that documents removed from the Oval Office and taken into the residence were deemed to be declassified,” the statement added. “The power to classify and declassify documents rests solely with the President of the United States. The idea that some paper-pushing bureaucrat, with classification authority delegated BY THE PRESIDENT, needs to approve of declassification is absurd.”
The Left in government leadership will attempt to contest that, but the President has very broad powers in this area. Obama himself solidified that power in 2009.
Obama’s executive order no. 13526, issued in 2009, laid out the stringent process all federal officials and agencies needed to follow for declassification but explicitly exempted the sitting president and vice president from having to follow those procedures.
There is also an executive order by George W. Bush in 2003 that covers it.
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Why did he take them, they are classified and top secret.
you better read this

Basic Laws and Authorities​

Source: The provisions of Executive Order 12958, as amended by Executive Order 13292, can be found at 68 Federal Register 15315 (March 28, 2003).

Executive Order 12958 was amended on March 25, 2003, by Executive Order 13292, to read as follows
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to further amend Executive Order 12958, as amended, it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12958 is amended to read as follows:

This order prescribes a uniform system for classifying, safeguarding, and declassifying national security information, including information relating to defense against transnational terrorism. Our democratic principles require that the American people be informed of the activities of their Government. Also, our Nation's progress depends on the free flow of information. Nevertheless, throughout our history, the national defense has required that certain information be maintained in confidence in order to protect our citizens, our democratic institutions, our homeland security, and our interactions with foreign nations. Protecting information critical to our Nation's security remains a priority.
 
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Former President Donald Trump’s response to the federal raid on his Mar-a-Lago home this week ricocheted from conspiracy to whataboutism: First, he suggested the FBI could have planted the top-secret material it found at his South Florida residence. Then he shifted focus to his predecessor, Barack Obama, whom he said had done the same thing, only worse ― a claim the National Archives was moved to debunk on Friday.

Trump now appears to have landed on an old standby, claiming victimhood because he supposedly didn’t do anything wrong to begin with. He had already declassified everything that had been taken to Mar-a-Lago, Trump argued on Truth Social, the platform he founded after being kicked off Twitter.
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“Classification is irrelevant. Government documents that pertain to the national defense may not be withheld from the government upon request for return,” McQuade said in a tweet. “The obstruction charge in the warrant suggests Trump tried to conceal what he had.”

 
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Bottom line: No harm, no foul. Only the craziest of TDS sufferers can even envision any harm to the national interests that might have occurred because Trump (obviously, one of his minions) decided to bring some sensitive documents to Florida.

Nuclear secrets? Gimme a fukkin' break.
 

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  • (4) other entities within the Executive Office of the President that solely advise and assist the incumbent President is exempted from the provisions of paragraph (a) of this section. However, the Archivist shall have the authority to review, downgrade, and declassify papers or records of former Presidents under the control of the Archivist pursuant to sections 2107, 2111, 2111 note, or 2203 of title 44, United States Code. Review procedures developed by the Archivist shall provide for consultation with agencies having primary subject matter interest and shall be consistent with the provisions of applicable laws or lawful agreements that pertain to the respective Presidential papers or records. Agencies with primary subject matter interest shall be notified promptly of the Archivists decision. Any final decision by the Archivist may be appealed by the requester or an agency to the Panel. The information shall remain classified pending a prompt decision on the appeal.

Yes there is harm without the classified or unclassified mats.

I doubt the

David S. Ferriero, did this!!​

 

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Bottom line: No harm, no foul. Only the craziest of TDS sufferers can even envision any harm to the national interests that might have occurred because Trump (obviously, one of his minions) decided to bring some sensitive documents to Florida.

Nuclear secrets? Gimme a fukkin' break.
Why? did he have the documents at home.
 

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  • (4) other entities within the Executive Office of the President that solely advise and assist the incumbent President is exempted from the provisions of paragraph (a) of this section. However, the Archivist shall have the authority to review, downgrade, and declassify papers or records of former Presidents under the control of the Archivist pursuant to sections 2107, 2111, 2111 note, or 2203 of title 44, United States Code. Review procedures developed by the Archivist shall provide for consultation with agencies having primary subject matter interest and shall be consistent with the provisions of applicable laws or lawful agreements that pertain to the respective Presidential papers or records. Agencies with primary subject matter interest shall be notified promptly of the Archivists decision. Any final decision by the Archivist may be appealed by the requester or an agency to the Panel. The information shall remain classified pending a prompt decision on the appeal.

Yes there is harm without the classified or unclassified mats.

I doubt the

David S. Ferriero, did this!!​

A prog and their government laws, bylaws, endless rules and regulatory insanity and extremist judges to prove the science and books of theories while the real-world crumbles are legendary now. This inflation is not a mirage or from a small paragraph in a book. It is real. And if it lasts long enough can bring rancor from people who have not before.
 

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Donald Trump had a “standing order” that the documents at Mar-A-Lago were to be considered declassified, according to a statement the former president’s office provided to Just the News on Friday.

Lets pretend for a minute this is actually true, though the fact nobody knew about it till this week makes one wonder.

Do none of the Trumpers see any problem at all with the POTUS, any POTUS, just declassifying boxloads of documents without even knowing what is in the boxes or without letting someone know so that all the other copies of said documents could also be marked accordingly?
 

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A prog and their government laws, bylaws, endless rules and regulatory insanity and extremist judges to prove the science and books of theories while the real-world crumbles are legendary now. This inflation is not a mirage or from a small paragraph in a book. It is real. And if it lasts long enough can bring rancor from people who have not before.
It was Bush Jr. A republican.
 

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Lets pretend for a minute this is actually true, though the fact nobody knew about it till this week makes one wonder.

Do none of the Trumpers see any problem at all with the POTUS, any POTUS, just declassifying boxloads of documents without even knowing what is in the boxes or without letting someone know so
Lets pretend for a minute this is actually true, though the fact nobody knew about it till this week makes one wonder.

Do none of the Trumpers see any problem at all with the POTUS, any POTUS, just declassifying boxloads of documents without even knowing what is in the boxes or without letting someone know so that all the other copies of said documents could also be marked accordingly?

all the other copies of said documents could also be marked accordingly?
He doesn't need to have them, why did he?
 

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He doesn't need to have them, why did he?

Legally I am not sure that is relevant.

But on a practical matter standpoint it is vital, which is why all the Trumpres will ignore it
 

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Former President Donald Trump’s response to the federal raid on his Mar-a-Lago home this week ricocheted from conspiracy to whataboutism: First, he suggested the FBI could have planted the top-secret material it found at his South Florida residence. Then he shifted focus to his predecessor, Barack Obama, whom he said had done the same thing, only worse ― a claim the National Archives was moved to debunk on Friday.

Trump now appears to have landed on an old standby, claiming victimhood because he supposedly didn’t do anything wrong to begin with. He had already declassified everything that had been taken to Mar-a-Lago, Trump argued on Truth Social, the platform he founded after being kicked off Twitter.
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“Classification is irrelevant. Government documents that pertain to the national defense may not be withheld from the government upon request for return,” McQuade said in a tweet. “The obstruction charge in the warrant suggests Trump tried to conceal what he had.”


I also noticed the changing story. I was wondering if anyone of the Trump Fanboys had. I guess not.
 

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