Donald Trump considers pulling troops out of Germany.... considering redeploying personnel to Hungary

America needs to keep them spread out or they will be in as much danger as the ones on the aircraft carriers..
 
Damn, Trump really has you weak sisters on the run. :banana:


Not really. But he does have sucker's like you who fall for his bullshit on a tight leash. Does it hurt when he yanks on it?
 
Around 160,000 active-duty personnel are stationed outside of the United States, a vast quantity of whom are in Germany

I read somewhere that the war ended in Germany some time ago... Fake News?

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Donald Trump is considering pulling US troops from Germany and redeploying them to Eastern Europe, The Telegraph can reveal.

Mr Trump is weighing up withdrawing some 35,000 active personnel out of Germany in a move that would further sour US-Europe relations.

The US president, who has repeatedly warned that Europe must commit more to its defensive capabilities, is becoming increasingly frustrated that the continent is “pushing for war”, sources close to the administration said.

Around 160,000 active-duty personnel are stationed outside of the United States, a vast quantity of whom are in Germany.

“Trump is angry that they [Europe] appear to be pushing for war,” a source close to the White House said.

Brian Hughes, a US national security spokesman, said: “While no specific announcement is imminent, the US military is always considering the redeployment of troops around the world to best address current threats to our interests.”

Donald Trump considers pulling troops out of Germany

Poland is also solid for the US, and we've been getting pretty cozy with Armenia lately as well.

Keep Rammstein for line of sight reasons.

Joint Base Langley ---> Rammstein ----> Middle East
I have zero faith in Europe in general. There is a reason our European ancestors relocated to the "new world". I fully agree with U about the country of Poland, which has a decently effective military meaning they are a "responsible" society. Ramstein AFB is certainly an asset militarily wise both tactically as well as strategically. Unfortunately the current shape of Germany's Luftwaffe sounds to be functionally bankrupt or @ least on the brink of being functionally bankrupt. If it was not for the U.S. presence @ Ramstein AFB then Ramstein would most likely be an amusement park.

I am a big supporter of the country of Armenia & it's folks. Armenia became the FIRST nation/state on our planet earth to adopt Christianity(Eastern Christian) in the 3rd century. The Armenian Apostolic Orthodox Church is the oldest Christian church on our planet. The Armenians survived persecutions but lost 1.5 million of their fellow Armenians in the 1st holocaust during WW1 under the reign of the Ottoman empire. The 2nd holocaust perpetrated during WW2 was NOT the first to use railroad boxcars for mass transportations of victims as can be seen below;



Good call on your part about the "LINE OF SIGHT"!!!
 
THere has been no real justification for our presence in Germany for decades, but "we" have been there so long that we are a substantial part of the economy in the communities where our bases are situated. Furthermore, we have soldiers who have been there for years, and are totally integrated, including having local spouses and children.

So it's complicated. It is entirely appropriate that Trump is thinking about it.
 
Just do it Mr President!

"It seems that the constant warmongering by the European nations has finally worn out the patience of US President Donald J. Trump, and severe consequences may be incoming.

Reports arose today that Trump is considering pulling US troops from Germany and redeploying them to Eastern Europe."



 
This Russiaphobia has to end and getting bases out of Europe is important to it.
Face it. Russia cannot even digest a non-NATO state of Ukraine. Yes it can nibble a bit of Donbas (ethnic Russian)
and annex Crimea (even more ethnic Russian) but Ukraine's JAVELIN stopped Russia's armor dead in its tracks

And while drone warfare is an integral part of the Ukr war, you can't just use an air force to conquer territory.
Russia has more manpower then Ukraine, and wins that war of attrition, but it IMPOSSIBLE for it to move on any NATO state.

And if they take Moldova -does anyone really care?
 
This would not be a prudent decision IMO.

At the very least, put in a bid for Greenland first before you consider this.
 
This would not be a prudent decision IMO.

At the very least, put in a bid for Greenland first before you consider this.
OK on Greenland..but do we have bases there? for the life of me I see absolutely no strategic value to having bases in Germany anymore .Are we (USA) going to get into any land war in Europe? even after Trump. no and no -IMO

Russia cant get past the Dnieper, how can it get anywhere except the stalemated meat grinder of Ukraine?
 
Mr Trump is said to be considering repositioning some US troops in Europe so they are focused around Nato countries that have upped their defence spending to meet GDP targets.
Geat Buddha I hope not and does the TELEGRAPH show just where in Hungary they would be repositioned?
There is only 2 NATO airbase in Hungary. how can it possible accomodate all the AF stationed in Germany?
 
OK on Greenland..but do we have bases there? for the life of me I see absolutely no strategic value to having bases in Germany anymore .Are we (USA) going to get into any land war in Europe? even after Trump. no and no -IMO

Russia cant get past the Dnieper, how can it get anywhere except the stalemated meat grinder of Ukraine?
You have bases there so that Russia and China cannot sneak attack Europe and overwhelm them.

America has the most advanced military in the world and the E.U needs to pay 3-4% a year IMO, however, a sneak attack on Europe or Taiwan/Japan/S Korea for that matter, would be bad for business for the U.S.
 
Europe should nuke up. The NPT is a farce. At the least the French European nuke protection offer should be accepted until other countries come on line. I wouldn't trust the UK near the smell of a dollar.

Europe should make as much out of the US bases that are there until they're kicked out/removed.

I mean it's been made clear they're not there for Europe's protection.
 
US Army will never leave Germany, there will always be significant presence.
Germany won't panic in any scenario.
Germany is a rich nation, even more so when the new Government or any other in the future returns back to nuclear energy.
They're not dependant on some 30-40k GIs spending money in German communites.

No one can invade Germany.
 
US Army will never leave Germany, there will always be significant presence.
Germany won't panic in any scenario.
Germany is a rich nation, even more so when the new Government or any other in the future returns back to nuclear energy.
They're not dependant on some 30-40k GIs spending money in German communites.

No one can invade Germany.
The hookers are hoping yer right.
 
The French Institute of International Relations warned in a report last year that “the war in Ukraine has the potential to increase proliferation risks, as it signals that nuclear powers can attack an adversary with conventional capabilities while backing its actions with nuclear threats to deter third-party intervention.”
“The war also sends the message that nuclear weapons are a necessary guarantor of national security,” the report said.
 

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