Donald Trump Can't Find Enough Americans to Work at Mar-a-Lago

[Tommy Tainant]

So you're OK with abusing the intent of the law, and helpless visa workers, because it's not illegal. Slavery wasn't illegal. Does that make it right or moral????

The problem for American workers is that so many of the issues the workers are facing are the result of this kind of thinking. If it's not illegal, it's OK.

"Wage theft" by employers is the biggest crime in America. People not getting paid for the work they did, in good faith. And it's not even illegal. If YOU steal from employer, you will be arrested. If your employer steals from you, it's not even against the law.

Always remember that what the NAZI's did to the Jews, and others in the concentration camps, was also completely legal. They passed laws legalizing the "final solution". You can legalize anything, but it doesn't make it moral or right.

The issue is that corporate America ,in many cases, has a business model that depends on low wages. They own the political parties who look the other way. Its systematic.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I doubt if that will make the welfare recipients clean toilets as you say.

What race receives the most welfare benefits?
The majority of recipients were white (43 percent), followed by Hispanic (26 percent), and Black (23 percent).Feb 28, 2024

People will do any job if they are paid well enough.

 

[Dragonlady]

This a Tag team TDS Rant thread.

Fake ass outrage all over the place from a group that wants open bordets.

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This is a bullshit response, including lies, distortions and denial of reality, from a group that stupidly voted for the worst businessman in world history - AGAIN.

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[struth]

#1 Incorrect, his country clubs hire H2B non-agricultural foreigners in low skill, low education jobs. H1B Visa's are for the highly educated, high speciality skill (IT, Engineers, Doctors, etc.) areas. I work in HR and we get people inquiring all the time about applying for our openings using basically the H1B program. We turn them down and hire Americans instead.

#2 Incorrect the second, he's not hiring "immigrants" he's hiring temporary workers that have to return home. They save what money they can and either send it out of the country or take it with them when they leave. When hiring under the H2B program the period has to be defined in the application and can be up to 1 year.

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Excellent points he’s only hire legally temp migrants.

Seasonal type work to help out where needed. These folks aren’t even staying here

Nobody has an issue with legal immigration or migration

 

[struth]

He doesn't mention how he hires migrants over Americans though. He leaves that part out. And his supporters let him.

He doesn’t hire them over Americans. You got evidence he has turned any american down over a migrant?

 

[struth]

Which we don't necessarily need when we have people here to do the work.

Agreed, do we? Dems have been telling me when need illegals because Americans won’t do the work…

 

[struth]

Harris gave them? You’re a loon! They were here legally. Quit spreading lies.

Well the admin she was number two in

 

[Mac-7]

I doubt if that will make the welfare recipients clean toilets as you say.

Who said anything about making anyone clean toilets?

They will do do willingly rather than go hungry

 

[Tommy Tainant]

So you're OK with abusing the intent of the law, and helpless visa workers, because it's not illegal. Slavery wasn't illegal. Does that make it right or moral????

The problem for American workers is that so many of the issues the workers are facing are the result of this kind of thinking. If it's not illegal, it's OK.

"Wage theft" by employers is the biggest crime in America. People not getting paid for the work they did, in good faith. And it's not even illegal. If YOU steal from employer, you will be arrested. If your employer steals from you, it's not even against the law.

Always remember that what the NAZI's did to the Jews, and others in the concentration camps, was also completely legal. They passed laws legalizing the "final solution". You can legalize anything, but it doesn't make it moral or right.

The visa system is a form of indentured slavery. Similar to the system of slavery in Saudi. The employer has the whip hand and literally holds all the cards.
No wonder trash like trump and musk love it.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The visa system is a form of indentured slavery. Similar to the system of slavery in Saudi. The employer has the whip hand and literally holds all the cards.
No wonder trash like trump and musk love it.

Or your England and indentured servitude back in the 17 and 1800's

 

[YoursTruly]

He doesn’t hire them over Americans. You got evidence he has turned any american down over a migrant?

Do I need evidence? Would it matter if I did? Because you'd just come up with another "excuse" for Trump.
The bottom line is, and I think you know this. Trump only ran two small ads in a news paper to find help.
Hardly anyone reads the news paper now days. And even in 2015/16.
That's all he was required to do. He didn't go out of his way to get more American applications for those positions, because he wanted the migrants over Americans.

You can't sugar coat this or win the arguments over technicalities. If Trump wanted Americans to fill those positions, he would've found them.

 

[initforme]

Who said anything about making anyone clean toilets?

They will do do willingly rather than go hungry

Cleaning toilets won't put food in one's belly.

 

[YoursTruly]

He doesn’t hire them over Americans. You got evidence he has turned any american down over a migrant?

And once again, Trump and the left are in agreement.

This happens way more than Trump supporters would agree with.

 

[YoursTruly]

/—-/ YoursTruly can’t be honest about it. He needs to push the anti Trump narrative.

/---/ OK, illegals were found out, and they were fired. What's your problem, other than it happened at a Trump property?
Why is it illegal for an emploter to ask about citizenship?

Can an employer ask for proof of citizenship?

Asking an employee for proof of citizenship or immigration status in the process of verifying a worker's employment authorization could violate the law that IER enforces. During both initial verification and reverification, a worker may choose which documentation to present from the List of Acceptable Documents. Q.Sep 25, 2024

IER's Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - Department of Justice​

They were known to be undocumented when they were hire. And were only fired AFTER the news reports came out. That's the point you're ignoring. It was AFTER it was exposed.
Had it not been reported, they wouldn't have been let go for being undocumented because they were undocumented when they were hired.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Or your England and indentured servitude back in the 17 and 1800's

Yes. Only the likes of trump/Musk recall that with any affection.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Yes. Only the likes of trump/Musk recall that with any affection.

That's dumb. You should own it... reparations might be in order too

 

[Mac-7]

Cleaning toilets won't put food in one's belly.

Do you think food arrives via the Food Stamp Fairy?

Only in lib la la land

And that can be changed

We are going back in history when it was said “If you dont work you dont eat”

 

[Tommy Tainant]

That's dumb. You should own it... reparations might be in order too

Perhaps your king should get together with Charlie and thrash out a plan.
Problem is you would have to help black folk and that would never do would it ?

 

[initforme]

Do you think food arrives via the Food Stamp Fairy?

Only in lib la la land

And that can be changed

We are going back in history when it was said “If you dont work you dont eat”

Well if one is making $25 per hour doing then then maybe.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Do you think food arrives via the Food Stamp Fairy?

Only in lib la la land

And that can be changed

We are going back in history when it was said “If you dont work you dont eat”

The voice of a low pay advocate.