Donald Trump Backing Off On Immigration??

[Flopper]

There are over 56 million legal Latin-Americans in the US. With or without 8 or 9 million illegals, the number of Latin-Americans will grow rapidly over the next 50 years because of their higher birth rate and legal immigration. Republicans need to become more inclusive. Building walls around the country, real or figuratively and deporting millions of people is not the way.

They will not be able to compete with robotic labor and the Hispanic community will see its birthrates drop as they move into the middle class like everyone else. These projections of majority Hispanic populations by 2050 and all that is static analysis that stupidly assumes that current rates will stay constant for 50 years.

Horse shit.

They will regret their anti-white policies very much by 2030 and will be tacking toward White Nationalism like the racial whores they are because that is what racial whores do.

When we are talking about a 50 year time segment we're talking about multi-generations. Second generation Hispanic high school graduations is only slightly less the national averages but they lag in college graduation. Third generation, is nearly the same both in high school and college graduation. In the job market, third generation Hispanics face exactly the same problems as other Americans.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

There are over 56 million legal Latin-Americans in the US. With or without 8 or 9 million illegals, the number of Latin-Americans will grow rapidly over the next 50 years because of their higher birth rate and legal immigration. Republicans need to become more inclusive. Building walls around the country, real or figuratively and deporting millions of people is not the way. This countries needs two parties. If Republicans continue as they are not, they will become irrelevant by the middle of this century.

I do hope you understand this has been the Democrat plot all along. So before you vote Democrat this election, imagine what a single-party country would be like. If you can't imagine that, think back to what the first two years of Obama was like. Sure, we've been able to reverse it by giving Republicans leadership of Congress and later the Senate, but if we surrender to Democrat tactics, that may not be an option in the near future.

 

[JimBowie1958]

When we are talking about a 50 year time segment we're talking about multi-generations. Second generation Hispanic high school graduations is only slightly less the national averages but they lag in college graduation. Third generation, is nearly the same both in high school and college graduation. In the job market, third generation Hispanics face exactly the same problems as other Americans.

Thats not the point. We are going to start seeing real major impact from the Robotics Revolution within the next ten years.

The phases will run close, separated by three to five years from the end of the previous one, methinks, but it will run something like this, with dependent tech development in parens.

Low Skilled Labor Roboticised (autonomous mobile robots with strong AI) -> highly skilled labor replaced (stronger AI with wireless connection to main frame database and sharing of 'lessons learned') -> Academic 'labor' replaced by automated programs and apps that can be accessed off line for 90% of laymans needs (Turing Test valid Strong AI) -> replacement of top academic and scholarly fields that require human interaction like medical doctors and lawyers ( simulant technology that look exactly like humans due to use of biological shells (i.e. Terminator))

In short, within 20 years we will probably have 85% of all jobs being done by robots of some sort.

The first demographic group of unskilled laborers will be disproportionately Hispanic and this will kill their immigration and as the rest move into the middle class,they will see their birth rates drop as well.

The Democratic Party has been counting on the Hispanics to displace lower class white workers and that isnt going to happen. And when the Dems realize it they will be begging todays white workers to forgive and forget.. Aint happenin methinks. The Democrats have been kicking us rural Americans in the ass for the last thirty years now.

 

[JimBowie1958]

An interesting video where a New Black Panther endorses Trump

 

[Flopper]

There are over 56 million legal Latin-Americans in the US. With or without 8 or 9 million illegals, the number of Latin-Americans will grow rapidly over the next 50 years because of their higher birth rate and legal immigration. Republicans need to become more inclusive. Building walls around the country, real or figuratively and deporting millions of people is not the way. This countries needs two parties. If Republicans continue as they are not, they will become irrelevant by the middle of this century.

I do hope you understand this has been the Democrat plot all along. So before you vote Democrat this election, imagine what a single-party country would be like. If you can't imagine that, think back to what the first two years of Obama was like. Sure, we've been able to reverse it by giving Republicans leadership of Congress and later the Senate, but if we surrender to Democrat tactics, that may not be an option in the near future.

One of the reasons I will be voting Democrat is I believe Trump will destroy the Republican Party for two reasons.

First, Trump is not a conservative, liberal, libertarian, or much of anything. He believes only in issues and Trump. You can not have a party without an ideological foundation.

Second, if Trump attempts to carry out any agenda even close to what he's proposed, he and his party will be labelled racist and xenophobia for generations to come. With the economy becoming more global every day and the nation becoming a nation of minorities, the Republican Party will become totally irrelevant in such a world.

 

[Flopper]

When we are talking about a 50 year time segment we're talking about multi-generations. Second generation Hispanic high school graduations is only slightly less the national averages but they lag in college graduation. Third generation, is nearly the same both in high school and college graduation. In the job market, third generation Hispanics face exactly the same problems as other Americans.

Thats not the point. We are going to start seeing real major impact from the Robotics Revolution within the next ten years.

The phases will run close, separated by three to five years from the end of the previous one, methinks, but it will run something like this, with dependent tech development in parens.

Low Skilled Labor Roboticised (autonomous mobile robots with strong AI) -> highly skilled labor replaced (stronger AI with wireless connection to main frame database and sharing of 'lessons learned') -> Academic 'labor' replaced by automated programs and apps that can be accessed off line for 90% of laymans needs (Turing Test valid Strong AI) -> replacement of top academic and scholarly fields that require human interaction like medical doctors and lawyers ( simulant technology that look exactly like humans due to use of biological shells (i.e. Terminator))

In short, within 20 years we will probably have 85% of all jobs being done by robots of some sort.

The first demographic group of unskilled laborers will be disproportionately Hispanic and this will kill their immigration and as the rest move into the middle class,they will see their birth rates drop as well.

The Democratic Party has been counting on the Hispanics to displace lower class white workers and that isnt going to happen. And when the Dems realize it they will be begging todays white workers to forgive and forget.. Aint happenin methinks. The Democrats have been kicking us rural Americans in the ass for the last thirty years now.

Well, it looks like you have a solution for illegal immigration. Just do nothing and robotics will take care of the rest. However, such a change would create a huge unemployment problem and thus a wealth inequality far greater than today. This would be an environment in which Democrats would not need the minorities behind them. They would have the masses of unemployed and underemployed seeking a share of the pie.

 

[Correll]

There are over 56 million legal Latin-Americans in the US. With or without 8 or 9 million illegals, the number of Latin-Americans will grow rapidly over the next 50 years because of their higher birth rate and legal immigration. Republicans need to become more inclusive. Building walls around the country, real or figuratively and deporting millions of people is not the way. This countries needs two parties. If Republicans continue as they are not, they will become irrelevant by the middle of this century.

I do hope you understand this has been the Democrat plot all along. So before you vote Democrat this election, imagine what a single-party country would be like. If you can't imagine that, think back to what the first two years of Obama was like. Sure, we've been able to reverse it by giving Republicans leadership of Congress and later the Senate, but if we surrender to Democrat tactics, that may not be an option in the near future.

One of the reasons I will be voting Democrat is I believe Trump will destroy the Republican Party for two reasons.

First, Trump is not a conservative, liberal, libertarian, or much of anything. He believes only in issues and Trump. You can not have a party without an ideological foundation.

Second, if Trump attempts to carry out any agenda even close to what he's proposed, he and his party will be labelled racist and xenophobia for generations to come. With the economy becoming more global every day and the nation becoming a nation of minorities, the Republican Party will become totally irrelevant in such a world.

The left and it's minions in the media and pop culture have labeled the gop as the party of racism FOR generations already.

Where were you?


BTW, how do you think your future Dem party will treat the largest single ethnic group?

 

[Flopper]

There are over 56 million legal Latin-Americans in the US. With or without 8 or 9 million illegals, the number of Latin-Americans will grow rapidly over the next 50 years because of their higher birth rate and legal immigration. Republicans need to become more inclusive. Building walls around the country, real or figuratively and deporting millions of people is not the way. This countries needs two parties. If Republicans continue as they are not, they will become irrelevant by the middle of this century.

I do hope you understand this has been the Democrat plot all along. So before you vote Democrat this election, imagine what a single-party country would be like. If you can't imagine that, think back to what the first two years of Obama was like. Sure, we've been able to reverse it by giving Republicans leadership of Congress and later the Senate, but if we surrender to Democrat tactics, that may not be an option in the near future.

One of the reasons I will be voting Democrat is I believe Trump will destroy the Republican Party for two reasons.

First, Trump is not a conservative, liberal, libertarian, or much of anything. He believes only in issues and Trump. You can not have a party without an ideological foundation.

Second, if Trump attempts to carry out any agenda even close to what he's proposed, he and his party will be labelled racist and xenophobia for generations to come. With the economy becoming more global every day and the nation becoming a nation of minorities, the Republican Party will become totally irrelevant in such a world.

The left and it's minions in the media and pop culture have labeled the gop as the party of racism FOR generations already.

Where were you?


BTW, how do you think your future Dem party will treat the largest single ethnic group?

German-Americans are America's largest single ethnic group, 41 million. Hispanic Americans which are not a single ethnic group but rather a number of other ethnic groups number 55 million and growing rapidly.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

One of the reasons I will be voting Democrat is I believe Trump will destroy the Republican Party for two reasons.

First, Trump is not a conservative, liberal, libertarian, or much of anything. He believes only in issues and Trump. You can not have a party without an ideological foundation.

Second, if Trump attempts to carry out any agenda even close to what he's proposed, he and his party will be labelled racist and xenophobia for generations to come. With the economy becoming more global every day and the nation becoming a nation of minorities, the Republican Party will become totally irrelevant in such a world.

Which is why we need Trump more than ever.

You think that by electing Hillary and/or giving Democrats the majority we won't become a country of minorities? Think again. With that kind of power, we will become that country of minorities faster than you expected.

It's worse than that. With minorities having a free pass, that's exactly what the terrorists were hoping for.

Mind you the Republican party has survived over and over. We survived putting John McCain in for our nominee, same with Romney. The party is torn between the establishment and the Tea Party; neither of which Trump belongs to. We will be fine. And remember, with Republican leadership in the houses, Trump will be very limited as to what he will be able to do. It seems to me he's really changing his tone, and that's due to him listening to the professionals. He seeks advice from his staff and even talk show hosts which they've admitted to. Gingrich and Christie are helping him along the way. He even sought help from the Heritage Foundation to select his intended nominees for the Supreme Court.

Trump is not a wild crazed man like he appears to be.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Several people who met with Trump on Saturday told NBC that the Republican nominee seems to be easing his stance on illegal immigration. “He definitely was seeking input from this group of Latinos in terms of immigration reform,” Jesus Marquez, a Nevada political analyst and Latino outreach strategist, told the news outlet. “He is expecting for us to lay out points of a future plan for immigration.”

Trump is scheduled to speak in Colorado on Thursday, where he’s expected to lay out details for his updated immigration policy. A path to citizenship will certainly be on the table.

Is this the same Donald Trump who less than a year ago told us Mexico is sending over rapist and criminals into the US, the same Donald Trump who proposed deporting all 11 million illegal immigrants, the same Donald Trump who promised to build a 2000 mile wall to separate Mexico and the US and to force Mexico to pay for it?

Yes, this is the same Donald Trump, version 2 or maybe version 22. Anyone who has followed the career of Trump should not be surprised. Trump is famous for his huge exaggerations and promises that he never seems to remember like his wedding vows, a sports stadium in the Bronx, the tallest building in the world in Midtown, his promises to his students in Trump University, his promise of an art gallery to the city of NY, Trump Towers in New Orleans to open in 2011, and his promise to his supporters, "I will never lie to you".

Donald Trump's Immigration Reform May Be Less Severe Than We Thought

Trump is going to uphold immigration laws which means no jobs for illegals so they will self-deport. It's cheaper and more efficient.

 

[Flopper]

One of the reasons I will be voting Democrat is I believe Trump will destroy the Republican Party for two reasons.

First, Trump is not a conservative, liberal, libertarian, or much of anything. He believes only in issues and Trump. You can not have a party without an ideological foundation.

Second, if Trump attempts to carry out any agenda even close to what he's proposed, he and his party will be labelled racist and xenophobia for generations to come. With the economy becoming more global every day and the nation becoming a nation of minorities, the Republican Party will become totally irrelevant in such a world.

Which is why we need Trump more than ever.

You think that by electing Hillary and/or giving Democrats the majority we won't become a country of minorities? Think again. With that kind of power, we will become that country of minorities faster than you expected.

It's worse than that. With minorities having a free pass, that's exactly what the terrorists were hoping for.

Mind you the Republican party has survived over and over. We survived putting John McCain in for our nominee, same with Romney. The party is torn between the establishment and the Tea Party; neither of which Trump belongs to. We will be fine. And remember, with Republican leadership in the houses, Trump will be very limited as to what he will be able to do. It seems to me he's really changing his tone, and that's due to him listening to the professionals. He seeks advice from his staff and even talk show hosts which they've admitted to. Gingrich and Christie are helping him along the way. He even sought help from the Heritage Foundation to select his intended nominees for the Supreme Court.

Trump is not a wild crazed man like he appears to be.

What Trump is doing is listening to political professional advising him to move away from the issues that have defined his campaign, immigration, Islamic terrorism, and race. Trump can only win by convincing general election voters, that he really didn't mean all those nasty things he said to win the primaries, and at the same time convince his supporters from the primaries that he really does. If he can pull this rabbit out of the hat, he may just deserve the victory.

 

[Flopper]

Several people who met with Trump on Saturday told NBC that the Republican nominee seems to be easing his stance on illegal immigration. “He definitely was seeking input from this group of Latinos in terms of immigration reform,” Jesus Marquez, a Nevada political analyst and Latino outreach strategist, told the news outlet. “He is expecting for us to lay out points of a future plan for immigration.”

Trump is scheduled to speak in Colorado on Thursday, where he’s expected to lay out details for his updated immigration policy. A path to citizenship will certainly be on the table.

Is this the same Donald Trump who less than a year ago told us Mexico is sending over rapist and criminals into the US, the same Donald Trump who proposed deporting all 11 million illegal immigrants, the same Donald Trump who promised to build a 2000 mile wall to separate Mexico and the US and to force Mexico to pay for it?

Yes, this is the same Donald Trump, version 2 or maybe version 22. Anyone who has followed the career of Trump should not be surprised. Trump is famous for his huge exaggerations and promises that he never seems to remember like his wedding vows, a sports stadium in the Bronx, the tallest building in the world in Midtown, his promises to his students in Trump University, his promise of an art gallery to the city of NY, Trump Towers in New Orleans to open in 2011, and his promise to his supporters, "I will never lie to you".

Donald Trump's Immigration Reform May Be Less Severe Than We Thought

Trump is going to uphold immigration laws which means no jobs for illegals so they will self-deport. It's cheaper and more efficient.

There are too many groups lobbying congress and the executive branch to prevent this without other major legislative changes. Remember a president can issue an executive order to stop doing something but to issue an executive to start a major initiative such as monitoring, apprehending, and prosecuting employers which are among some of Americans largest corporations takes the backing of Congress to provide the funding and closing loopholes in the law.

 

[longknife]

There are over 56 million legal Latin-Americans in the US. With or without 8 or 9 million illegals, the number of Latin-Americans will grow rapidly over the next 50 years because of their higher birth rate and legal immigration. Republicans need to become more inclusive. Building walls around the country, real or figuratively and deporting millions of people is not the way. This countries needs two parties. If Republicans continue as they are not, they will become irrelevant by the middle of this century.

I do hope you understand this has been the Democrat plot all along. So before you vote Democrat this election, imagine what a single-party country would be like. If you can't imagine that, think back to what the first two years of Obama was like. Sure, we've been able to reverse it by giving Republicans leadership of Congress and later the Senate, but if we surrender to Democrat tactics, that may not be an option in the near future.

One of the reasons I will be voting Democrat is I believe Trump will destroy the Republican Party for two reasons.

First, Trump is not a conservative, liberal, libertarian, or much of anything. He believes only in issues and Trump. You can not have a party without an ideological foundation.

Second, if Trump attempts to carry out any agenda even close to what he's proposed, he and his party will be labelled racist and xenophobia for generations to come. With the economy becoming more global every day and the nation becoming a nation of minorities, the Republican Party will become totally irrelevant in such a world.

The left and it's minions in the media and pop culture have labeled the gop as the party of racism FOR generations already.

Where were you?


BTW, how do you think your future Dem party will treat the largest single ethnic group?

German-Americans are America's largest single ethnic group, 41 million. Hispanic Americans which are not a single ethnic group but rather a number of other ethnic groups number 55 million and growing rapidly.

Do you think that posting in bold makes your tripe more valid?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What Trump is doing is listening to political professional advising him to move away from the issues that have defined his campaign, immigration, Islamic terrorism, and race. Trump can only win by convincing general election voters, that he really didn't mean all those nasty things he said to win the primaries, and at the same time convince his supporters from the primaries that he really does. If he can pull this rabbit out of the hat, he may just deserve the victory.

Trump is now a politician. He will say whatever needs to be said to win the election. After that is anybody's guess.

But just going by body language, it seems that his new tone is all talk. I believe his heart was in the right place when he was running in the primaries.

Either way, no matter how Trump addresses the terrorist or immigration issue, it will be ten times better than what Hillary would do.

Don't vote against Trump because you're not sure. Vote against Hillary because you are.

 

[Flopper]

What Trump is doing is listening to political professional advising him to move away from the issues that have defined his campaign, immigration, Islamic terrorism, and race. Trump can only win by convincing general election voters, that he really didn't mean all those nasty things he said to win the primaries, and at the same time convince his supporters from the primaries that he really does. If he can pull this rabbit out of the hat, he may just deserve the victory.

Trump is now a politician. He will say whatever needs to be said to win the election. After that is anybody's guess.

But just going by body language, it seems that his new tone is all talk. I believe his heart was in the right place when he was running in the primaries.

Either way, no matter how Trump addresses the terrorist or immigration issue, it will be ten times better than what Hillary would do.

Don't vote against Trump because you're not sure. Vote against Hillary because you are.

Trump is still in a learning phase when it comes to politics. Give him 3 or 4 years and he will be a seasoned politician, ducking out on campaign promises and trading votes for political favors. If Trump becomes president, he will be following the advice of seasoned professionals who have been dealing with terrorism, immigration, congress, and the judiciary for years, probably not a lot different than those Obama uses.

Wake up; terrorism and immigration are just hot button issues to get votes. Once elected the president has to face reality, not campaign fantasy. One can only hope that his propensity for rash statements and irresponsible remarks do not seriously damage the nation.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Several people who met with Trump on Saturday told NBC that the Republican nominee seems to be easing his stance on illegal immigration. “He definitely was seeking input from this group of Latinos in terms of immigration reform,” Jesus Marquez, a Nevada political analyst and Latino outreach strategist, told the news outlet. “He is expecting for us to lay out points of a future plan for immigration.”

Trump is scheduled to speak in Colorado on Thursday, where he’s expected to lay out details for his updated immigration policy. A path to citizenship will certainly be on the table.

Is this the same Donald Trump who less than a year ago told us Mexico is sending over rapist and criminals into the US, the same Donald Trump who proposed deporting all 11 million illegal immigrants, the same Donald Trump who promised to build a 2000 mile wall to separate Mexico and the US and to force Mexico to pay for it?

Yes, this is the same Donald Trump, version 2 or maybe version 22. Anyone who has followed the career of Trump should not be surprised. Trump is famous for his huge exaggerations and promises that he never seems to remember like his wedding vows, a sports stadium in the Bronx, the tallest building in the world in Midtown, his promises to his students in Trump University, his promise of an art gallery to the city of NY, Trump Towers in New Orleans to open in 2011, and his promise to his supporters, "I will never lie to you".

Donald Trump's Immigration Reform May Be Less Severe Than We Thought

Trump is going to uphold immigration laws which means no jobs for illegals so they will self-deport. It's cheaper and more efficient.

There are too many groups lobbying congress and the executive branch to prevent this without other major legislative changes. Remember a president can issue an executive order to stop doing something but to issue an executive to start a major initiative such as monitoring, apprehending, and prosecuting employers which are among some of Americans largest corporations takes the backing of Congress to provide the funding and closing loopholes in the law.

If the law says a company can't hire illegals then there is nothing the Congress need do except watch the President uphold the law. This will be something we haven't seen for 8 years.

 

[regent]

Is Trump now saying he will import immigrants?

 

[sonic]

Trump was told he cannot win without backing away from everything he stands for, so rather than go down with some semblance of integrity, he's chosen to lose with a big ass flip-flopper sign hung around his neck.
He doesn't care though, because he doesn't want the job. He's just using this as a platform for launching his Breitbart collaboration on Trump TV.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Trump is now a politician. He will say whatever needs to be said to win the election. After that is anybody's guess.

But just going by body language, it seems that his new tone is all talk. I believe his heart was in the right place when he was running in the primaries.

Either way, no matter how Trump addresses the terrorist or immigration issue, it will be ten times better than what Hillary would do.

Don't vote against Trump because you're not sure. Vote against Hillary because you are.

Trump has not changed anything about what he has said he plans to do.

1. Build a Big Wall.

2. Deport criminals who are illegals.

3. No path to citizenship for illegal aliens.

4. no path to legalization as illegal aliens.

5. For them to come into this country legally, they must go home and register to gain legal entry from there.

There has been ZERO change; stop believing the media's lies dude.

 

[Flopper]

Several people who met with Trump on Saturday told NBC that the Republican nominee seems to be easing his stance on illegal immigration. “He definitely was seeking input from this group of Latinos in terms of immigration reform,” Jesus Marquez, a Nevada political analyst and Latino outreach strategist, told the news outlet. “He is expecting for us to lay out points of a future plan for immigration.”

Trump is scheduled to speak in Colorado on Thursday, where he’s expected to lay out details for his updated immigration policy. A path to citizenship will certainly be on the table.

Is this the same Donald Trump who less than a year ago told us Mexico is sending over rapist and criminals into the US, the same Donald Trump who proposed deporting all 11 million illegal immigrants, the same Donald Trump who promised to build a 2000 mile wall to separate Mexico and the US and to force Mexico to pay for it?

Yes, this is the same Donald Trump, version 2 or maybe version 22. Anyone who has followed the career of Trump should not be surprised. Trump is famous for his huge exaggerations and promises that he never seems to remember like his wedding vows, a sports stadium in the Bronx, the tallest building in the world in Midtown, his promises to his students in Trump University, his promise of an art gallery to the city of NY, Trump Towers in New Orleans to open in 2011, and his promise to his supporters, "I will never lie to you".

Donald Trump's Immigration Reform May Be Less Severe Than We Thought

Trump is going to uphold immigration laws which means no jobs for illegals so they will self-deport. It's cheaper and more efficient.

There are too many groups lobbying congress and the executive branch to prevent this without other major legislative changes. Remember a president can issue an executive order to stop doing something but to issue an executive to start a major initiative such as monitoring, apprehending, and prosecuting employers which are among some of Americans largest corporations takes the backing of Congress to provide the funding and closing loopholes in the law.

If the law says a company can't hire illegals then there is nothing the Congress need do except watch the President uphold the law. This will be something we haven't seen for 8 years.

Making E-Verify work for all businesses, providing timely problem resolution for social security number problems, monitoring, investigating, and prosecuting takes money and congress has to provide that money. The law has huge loopholes in it that makes it almost impossible to prosecute the worst offenders. Again congress must act. Lastly, if Congress doesn't feel that businesses are being treated fairly, by the enforcement of the law, then they will block enforcement as will the courts. There is a lot more to the problem than just having a president who will kick ass and enforce the law.
BTW I haven't heard Trump make any promises about prosecuting employers for hiring illegals. I think he would do exactly the same thing Obama and George Bush has done. The last president that actually tried to enforce the law against hiring illegals was Bill Clinton and congress intervened.