DOJ looking for ways to ban trans people from owning guns

No arguments to put up?
If you make any arguments worth responding to, I'll jump in there. But you're just lining up excuses (anything will do).

MAGA is all about small and disregarded people getting revenge on the world that dismisses them.
 
When you try and manipulate you body’s basic design, your mind revolts and abomination results. No guns for you.
 
Take the guns away from white men and you'll be able to enjoy living.

Trans people have nothing to do w/it.
I enjoy living now.

And unless there are no white men in the army, white men will always have guns.

Keep living your fantasy.

Trans people are like everyone else. One of their group does something stupid, they all pay for it.

That's life.
 
Against, not by.

Whatever helps you sleep at night

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I believe the VAST MAJORITY...like 99.8%... of transgender people are either XX or XY... meaning their gender wasn't "assigned at birth". They are factually born male or female.

If one person in 100,000 is born with 9 toes, the other 99,999 weren't "assigned" 10 toes at birth.
You can believe whatever you want. The fact is you have no way of knowing because children are not genetically tested at birth to determine their gender. Many cases of inter-sexuality are not diagnosed at birth, or for that matter ever.

In addition to genetics , there are other biological factors that may result in a person not being clearly male or female resulting in miss-gendering at birth. It is not just a matter of what is visible between the child legs,

Having said that, I will add that gender identity is a complex interaction of biology and psycho social factors and the actual reasons why someone is transsexual should not determine public policy or how they are treated, They should be taken seriously and not just written off as a mental case in need of curing. They need proper care.

Lastly, by "proper care " I do not mean simply validating their perceived identity and facilitating a transition. Contrary to the propaganda put out by the trans phobes, we agree that not all of those experiencing gender dysphoria are really transsexuals and candidates for transitioning. What I mean by proper care is helping them to discover their true identity and to determining the best course of action for them
 
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Pffft!
 
You can believe whatever you want. The fact is you have no way of knowing because children are not genetically tested at birth to determine their gender. Many cases of inter-sexuality are not diagnosed at birth, or for that matter ever.

In addition to genetics , there are other biological factors that may result in a person not being clearly male or female resulting in miss-gendering at birth. It is not just a matter of what is visible between the child legs,

Having said that, I will add that gender identity is a complex interaction of biology and psycho social factors and the actual reasons why someone is transsexual should not determine public policy or how they are treated, They should be taken seriously and not just written off as a mental case in need of curing. They need proper care.

Lastly, by "proper care " I do not mean simply validating their perceived identity and facilitating a transition. Contrary to the propaganda put out by the trans phobes, we agree that not all of those experiencing gender dysphoria are really transsexuals and candidates for transitioning. What I mean by proper care is helping them to discover their true identity and to determining the best course of action for them
Get lost https://www.usmessageboard.com/members/ohpleasejustquit.83053/

Learn how to construct a coherent and logical argument instead of your fake news crap. You contribute nothing of value here ,
 
As well they should be.
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Try again, Liebshitz. The lion's share of murders are not done by mass murderers, and the lion's share of mass murderers are not rightwing nuts.

But thanks for the link from the Fake News Network.
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Data from multiple research centers show that less than 1% of mass shooters were transgender. Cisgender men, who are men whose gender identity aligns with the sex assigned at birth, are the overwhelming majority of mass shooters.
Mass shooter demographics
  • Transgender perpetrators: A 2025 analysis by Newsweek found that using the Gun Violence Archive's (GVA) definition of mass shootings since 2018, confirmed incidents with transgender shooters account for less than 0.1% of the total. Data from The Violence Project, which examines mass shootings since 1966, similarly finds that less than 1% were committed by transgender individuals.
  • Male perpetrators: The Violence Project also reports that 98% of mass shootings have been carried out by men. A 2023 U.S. Secret Service report analyzing public attacks between 2016 and 2020 found that 96% of attackers were men.

And I am will to bet that every one of those trans shooters was put through hell one way or another but the transphobic bigots. You have blood on your hands
 
" Normative Deviations "

* Public Challenges *

From your own Wiki article:

" Depending on the definition, the prevalence of intersex among humans has been reported to range around a figure of 0.018%."

So that would be 6.48 million people out of 360 million people. Such a small number, is that what you're hanging your hat on? I'm not sure if my math is correct or not....
What does the incidence of intersex have to do with hanging a hat ?

What does the incidence of intersex have to do with blanket accusations that the portion of intersex with gender dysphoria are mentally ill and represent a significant threat to the safety and security of society such that access to self defense through second amendment rite to gun ownership should be suspended ?

.018% = .00018 ; .00018 x 360,000,000 = 64,800

. Intersex - Wikipedia .
Sex assignment at birth usually aligns with a child's external genitalia. The number of births with ambiguous genitals is in the range of 1:4,500–1:2,000 (0.02%–0.05%).[3] Other conditions involve the development of atypical chromosomes, gonads, or hormones.[4][2] The portion of the population that is intersex has been reported differently depending on which definition of intersex is used and which conditions are included. Estimates range from 0.018% (one in 5,500 births) to 1.7%.[4][5][6] The difference centers on whether conditions in which chromosomal sex matches a phenotypic sex which is clearly identifiable as male or female, such as late onset congenital adrenal hyperplasia (1.5 percentage points) and Klinefelter syndrome, should be counted as intersex.[4][7] Whether intersex or not, people may be assigned and raised as a girl or boy but then identify with another gender later in life, while most continue to identify with their assigned sex.[8][9][10]

. Google Search .
 
I'm an NRA member, so would I support any law that affects "the right to bear arms?". NO\
Ok....So, you don't see any unforeseen problems with red flag laws eh?
However, public safety requires some regulation of firearms. State Red Flag laws appear to be legal constitutionally.
Any police officer, or true constitutionalist will tell you that you shouldn't be relying on police, or politicians to "keep you safe"...
Due process could be that a judge reviews the "red flag" and decides if that person is psychologically capable to own guns.
What training does a judge have that you or I don't?
If not, the FBI and local police should be notified.
Again, often we see police fail at protecting rights on a daily basis. Believe me when I say I back police, they have a very difficult job. But, when it comes to upholding our rights, not so much.
A very small cohort of citizens would not be allowed to have guns, yet mass shootings should be prevented/reduced.
"Should be?" I call bull. The very fact that you don't know what kind of effect they would have only strengthens my argument against them.
Many mass shooters were simple to predict if red flag laws were available.
I'm sorry to say that you're looking at it the wrong way. We protect our Sporting events with armed security, we protect Concerts, and other events with armed security and checkpoints, yet our schools are wide open? Why?
Should kids be allowed to have guns?
How about retards?
How about crazy people?
How about non-citizens?
How about criminals?
How about probable mass shooters?
kyzr, I agree with you on most of your postings, however, this appeal to emotion here is beneath you....
 
" Normative Deviations "

* Public Challenges *


What does the incidence of intersex have to do with hanging a hat ?

What does the incidence of intersex have to do with blanket accusations that the portion of intersex with gender dysphoria are mentally ill and represent a significant threat to the safety and security of society such that access to self defense through second amendment rite to gun ownership should be suspended ?

.018% = .00018 ; .00018 x 360,000,000 = 64,800

. Intersex - Wikipedia .
Sex assignment at birth usually aligns with a child's external genitalia. The number of births with ambiguous genitals is in the range of 1:4,500–1:2,000 (0.02%–0.05%).[3] Other conditions involve the development of atypical chromosomes, gonads, or hormones.[4][2] The portion of the population that is intersex has been reported differently depending on which definition of intersex is used and which conditions are included. Estimates range from 0.018% (one in 5,500 births) to 1.7%.[4][5][6] The difference centers on whether conditions in which chromosomal sex matches a phenotypic sex which is clearly identifiable as male or female, such as late onset congenital adrenal hyperplasia (1.5 percentage points) and Klinefelter syndrome, should be counted as intersex.[4][7] Whether intersex or not, people may be assigned and raised as a girl or boy but then identify with another gender later in life, while most continue to identify with their assigned sex.[8][9][10]

. Google Search .
The point I was making is that it is such a small number of Trans people, as to be insignificant considering the population as a whole....I think that this Trans craze is harming an entire generation, it should be treated for what it is, mental illness.
 
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The point I was making is that it is such a small number of Trans people, as to be insignificant considering the population as a whole....I think that this Trans craze is harming an entire generation, it should be treated for what it is, mental illness.
I agree. But this is something different. This is an attempt to target and scapegoat people for political gain. It's par for the course in the fascist playbook, but it's bad government and we shouldn't tolerate it.
 
I agree. But this is something different. This is an attempt to target and scapegoat people for political gain. It's par for the course in the fascist playbook, but it's bad government and we shouldn't tolerate it.
We have to get back to common sense, and honor the rights guaranteed in the constitution. Part of that is to stop using inflammatory language like "fascist" or worse... What's going on is people are noticing that these school shootings, but not limited to, are being carried out by these deeply disturbed Trans people...That's why we have laws passing the way we do, in the attempt to stave off the "lynch mobs" as it were...

If they want to effect gun crime, crack down on illegal gun possessors....
 
We have to get back to common sense, and honor the rights guaranteed in the constitution. Part of that is to stop using inflammatory language like "fascist" or worse...
I've avoided it for a long time. I can't anymore. It's the truth about what's going on. We have to confront it, and reverse it, or the Constitution will be moot.
 
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