Does winning the popular vote in addition to the EC and the Senate mean a MANDATE from the PEOPLE?

[marvin martian]

Stop acting like Nazis and I'll stop assuming that.

The illegal shit happens because the legal shit doesn't work.

You could stop illegal immigration tomorrow by going after the white people who hire them HARD.

We don't do that.

Instead, we think that deporting some poor immigrant who overstayed a visa is accomplishing something.

This insanity is why you just lost everything.

 

[martybegan]

Not going to relitigate the cake thing... we can usually take the bigots out by organizing social media against them.

My point was, you guys are pretty much on your last line with gay marriage, and the trans thing will be the same.



Smart lawyers. Last thing they want is to get in front of a jury. Most jury would just LOVE to fuck a big corporation.

Social progress only really goes in one direction, bud. might be some steps back, but always forward.



No, actually, I say it in jest. My dad called himself a Kraut, even though he served in the US Army in WWII.


The easiest ones to fine will be the ones who played by the rules...not the ones who know how to live off the grid.

That much effort to ruin people over a cake. What a miserable human being you are.

Keep pushing the forced acceptance over tolerance, and you might get more than you want.

This isn't progress now, it's disintegration.

 

[JoeB131]

This insanity is why you just lost everything.

Don't mistake frustration over inflation and apathy as endorsements of your dogma.

 

[Hector12]

50.5% of the popular vote is not a landslide. Trump does not have a mandate to achieve the wish list of the more extreme Republicans.

In the election of 1964 President Lyndon Johnson won 61% of the popular vote. The Democrats won two to one majorities in both houses of Congress. The Democrats had a compliant Supreme Court.

In 1964 the Democrats had mandates to preserve the basic reforms of the New Deal and to avoid war with the Soviet Union. The Democrats exceeded their mandates by making punishment for criminals less likely and less severe, and by making welfare checks more generous and easier to qualify for.

The result was the election in 1968 of Richard Nixon, and the success of his Southern Strategy. The Democrats never really recovered from mistakes they made during and after 1964.

 

[JoeB131]

50.5% of the popular vote is not a landslide. Trump does not have a mandate to achieve the wish list of the more extreme Republicans.

In the election of 1964 President Lyndon Johnson won 61% of the popular vote. The Democrats won two to one majorities in both houses of Congress. The Democrats had a compliant Supreme Court.

In 1964 the Democrats had mandates to preserve the basic reforms of the New Deal and to avoid war with the Soviet Union. The Democrats exceeded their mandates by making punishment for criminals less likely and less severe, and by making welfare checks more generous and easier to qualify for.

The result was the election in 1968 of Richard Nixon, and the success of his Southern Strategy. The Democrats never really recovered from mistakes they made during and after 1964.

Uh, Cockroach, one big word missing from your little diatribe.

Vietnam.

That's why the Democrats lost. Not because Cleetus and Billy Bob were upset black people could ride on the front of the bus now. Not because punishments were less severe (because popular opinion was turning against these harsher punishments.) People turned on the Democrats because they were sending their sons off to a war we had no business being in. It didn't help that Humphrey was unable to definitely oppose the war.

Had RFK not been shot, he would have easily beaten Nixon and Wallace.

Here's the thing. Back in 1964 to 1972, a large part of the population wasn't that partisan. So if a major party absolutely shit the bed by nominating a nut like Goldwater or McGovern, voters would support the incumbent party even if they thought the guy was a bit shifty.


Even if Humphrey picked up all five states that went to Wallace, Nixon still would have won.

Simply not the case today. Trump was always going to get 47% of the vote, no matter what. No matter how badly he deteriorated.

Harris had the problem of not being the result of a nominating process, she just had to tap in after Biden became untenable.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Unlikely. Every president has taken a beating on his second midterm, with the exception of Clinton, and only then because the GOP insisted on an impeachment over a blow job no one wanted.

I said it was going to be close and it was.

Your woke DEI ideology was thoroughly smacked to the ground. You were rejected. You ought to rethink your ideas and morality.

But, I hope you don’t, because you’re radical stances don’t resonate with the common American.

 

[Hector12]

Vietnam.

That's why the Democrats lost.

Had RFK not been shot, he would have easily beaten Nixon and Wallace.

In The Real Majority, published in 1971, Richard Scammon and Ben Wattenberg reported that during the 1968 primary, polls indicated that the only Democrat candidate who was ever more popular than Nixon was Humphrey. Among Democrats Humphrey was always more popular than Kennedy and McCarthy. This was not obvious because Humphrey entered the primary too late to be listed in the primary elections.

President Johnson defeated Eugene McCarthy in the New Hampshire primary. Most of those voting for McCarthy said that they did not like the fact that Johnson was not winning the War in Vietnam.

I read The Real Majority years ago. I do not own a copy, so I cannot quote directly from it.

We need also to consider the black ghetto riots from 1964 to 1968. When there were no black ghetto riots during Nixon's first term the voters thanked Nixon by giving him a landslide victory in 1972. Polls indicated that it was not until 1971 that most Americans began to think the War in Vietnam was a mistake. Nixon won anyway because of his tough law and order stance.

 

[Hector12]

Your woke DEI ideology was thoroughly smacked to the ground. You were rejected. You ought to rethink your ideas and morality.

But, I hope you don’t, because you’re radical stances don’t resonate with the common American.

I hope JoeB131 does rethink his ideas and morality. I know he won't. He rejects facts that conflict with what he wants to believe.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

I hope JoeB131 does rethink his ideas and morality. I know he won't. He rejects facts that conflict with what he wants to believe.

His trans ideology turned off most moderates… especially when children are involved. We’re going to look back in a Decade and be shocked at how such an awful ideology got so supported by so much of the mainstream media, academia, Hollywood, and Democrat party. It’s so harmful to children.. it’s causes them severe depression, confusion, and suicide. It’s like encouraging and praising them to start smoking. They have blood on their hands.. and these hospitals who participated need to be sued into oblivion

 

[JoeB131]

Your woke DEI ideology was thoroughly smacked to the ground. You were rejected. You ought to rethink your ideas and morality.

But, I hope you don’t, because you’re radical stances don’t resonate with the common American.

Guy, barely scraping by with 50.5% is not an overwhelming victory.

Trump will quickly remind people why they threw him out of office the first time.

 

[JoeB131]

His trans ideology turned off most moderates… especially when children are involved. We’re going to look back in a Decade and be shocked at how such an awful ideology got so supported by so much of the mainstream media, academia, Hollywood, and Democrat party. It’s so harmful to children.. it’s causes them severe depression, confusion, and suicide. It’s like encouraging and praising them to start smoking. They have blood on their hands.. and these hospitals who participated need to be sued into oblivion

Guy, people didn't vote Trump in on Trans ideology.
They voted him in because they were upset about inflation.

Ironically, Inflation is under control now, but it won't be if Trump imposes the tariffs he's been threatening.

I hope JoeB131 does rethink his ideas and morality. I know he won't. He rejects facts that conflict with what he wants to believe.

yes, I reject misogyny and racism.

I know you embrace them.

And if any doubts that this loss was about America's misogyny, how many times did we see people call Harris a "bitch", "slut", "whore', and that word we can't use on USMB that rhymes with "hunt".

 

[Hector12]

Guy, people didn't vote Trump in on Trans ideology.
They voted him in because they were upset about inflation.

Ironically, Inflation is under control now, but it won't be if Trump imposes the tariffs he's been threatening.



yes, I reject misogyny and racism.

I know you embrace them.

And if any doubts that this loss was about America's misogyny, how many times did we see people call Harris a "bitch", "slut", "whore', and that word we can't use on USMB that rhymes with "hunt".

I voted for Obama, Hilary Clinton, and Harris.

You invent excuses for hating the Jews.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Guy, people didn't vote Trump in on Trans ideology.
They voted him in because they were upset about inflation.

They voted for trump for a lot of reasons. Not just inflation.

Ironically, Inflation is under control now, but it won't be if Trump imposes the tariffs he's been threatening.

The massive rise by Biden never dropped back to initial levels. So, it’s not under control. Everything is still way more expensive

yes, I reject misogyny and racism.

You embrace them via soft bigotry… you think they generally can’t succeed on their own, and they need help from elite democrats to succeed.

 

[Hector12]

I voted for Obama, Hilary Clinton, and Harris.

You invent excuses for hating the Jews.

You also hate Mormons. When I was nineteen two Mormon missionaries proselytized me for six months. As a result of my investigation, I concluded that the founder of the Church of Latter Day Saints, Joseph Smith, was a religious charlatan. Nevertheless, I liked the Mormons who proselyted me. I have liked all the Mormons I have known.

 

[JoeB131]

I voted for Obama, Hilary Clinton, and Harris.

You invent excuses for hating the Jews.

No one beleives that.

You don't need to invent reasons for disliking religious assholes. They pretty much bring their own.

 

[JoeB131]

You also hate Mormons. When I was nineteen two Mormon missionaries proselytized me for six months. As a result of my investigation, I concluded that the founder of the Church of Latter Day Saints, Joseph Smith, was a religious charlatan. Nevertheless, I liked the Mormons who proselyted me. I have liked all the Mormons I have known.

Mormonism was started by a child molesting con-artist.

Just because his followers put on this fake nice act is no reason to trust them.

I encountered Mormons in my early 20s, and never met more backstabbing mother fuckers in my life.

 

[Nostra]

Bitchslapping = MANDATE!

 

[Hector12]

Mormonism was started by a child molesting con-artist.

Just because his followers put on this fake nice act is no reason to trust them.

I encountered Mormons in my early 20s, and never met more backstabbing mother fuckers in my life.

You discuss a lot of bad experience you have had with demographics you hate. You should consider that you are the problem.

 

[Hector12]

No one beleives that.

You don't need to invent reasons for disliking religious assholes. They pretty much bring their own.

I do not care if you do not believe it. You disbelieve anything that contradicts with your excuses for hating people.

 

[struth]

Pelosi said 2020 was a MANDATE, so clearly this is a full rebuke of the current admin and a FULL MANDATE.

Winning the popular vote was huge for Trump.

The left are out of excuses. Now they will just claim racism…by the blacks and hispanics that voted Trump?

POPULAR VOTE CRUSH! WOW!