Does welfare make people lazy?

[kaz]

Social Security taxes are paid into the General Fund. Social security checks are paid from the General Fund. Government issued itself treasuries. So according to you, if I loan myself $1 million, I have a $1 million asset and a $1 million debt. Bull, I have nothing. Government or anyone else loaning themselves money isn't an asset.

Government took your social security payments and immediately spent the money. Nothing was ever saved, there was never an asset. They just wrote down how much they spent, and you gave the bills to your children. Both to pay social security, and to pay back the t-bills for the money that your generation spent as it came in. Fine, but you don't get to call it an asset, it's us paying your bills.

Thanks...

Isn't it amazing how ignorant the public is?
They believe there is money in social security.

What evidence do you have that states the Social Security Trust Fund is depleted?

It's not "depleted," it doesn't exist. There is no trust fund. The "T-Bills" were issued by the Federal government to itself. All they did is write down what they spent. Loaning themselves isn't an asset, and no assets means there is no "trust fund."

Who pays social security and medicare today? - Today's taxpayers

Who pays for the the t-bills that comprise the "trust fund? - Today's taxpayers.

There is no trust fund, never was. Nothing was ever saved, it was just all dumped on us by the prior generation.

 

[Meister]

The $5 trillion you wasted on Iraq would have paid for yours AND mine. Quit giving America's wealth to foreign countries, and start taking care of Americans, idiot.
And another thing, there are far more people that have paid into SS that never lived long enough to collect, than have collected.
And another thing, the cons have raided over $2 trillion from SS. The interest from that alone would pay for mine AND yours.
http://http://angrybearblog.com/2013/12/social-security-trust-fund-ratios-solvency-and-the-reagan-raid.html

None of those points would have made social security not a welfare program.

Well first idiot, I was against Iraq, so I don't know what your point is.

And as for your claim that it's one party and not both parties doing it to us, what can I say, you're just an idiot. It's all of them.

Same old lame con bullshit. All you got is childish insults. Try debating on an adult level, with facts. Here's some......

Ronald Reagan tripled the national debt.


By cutting taxes for the wealthy he left the government with less money. We were 900 billion in debt when he came into office and 2.8 trillion in debt when he left. Do the math.


The Iran/Contra affair. If wingnuts believe that Benghazi(drink drink, gulp) is a scandal,they should read up on Iran/Contra a little bit sometime. Now that, my friends, was a scandal.


Under Ronald Reagan unemployment went from 7.5% to 11%. It eventually started falling again with the help of low paying jobs. This happened in part because large American companies started shipping jobs oversees and cutting out the American worker.


Ronald Reagan ignored the AIDS crisis, and, one could argue, contributed to the devastating crack epidemic that engulfed inner city America in the eighties. Sadly, it is a scourge that is still ravaging some African- American families today.


Ronald Reagan did more to destroy unions and the American middle class than any other President in history. (Google Reagan PATCO for an example.)


Ronald Reagan raided the Social Security Trust Fund and raised the social security tax on the middle class to fund his scheme.


Finally, Ronald Reagan and his government funded the Taliban and Afghan freedom fighters so that they could fight the "evil" Soviets.

http://http://field-negro.blogspot.com/2014/02/rethinking-reagan.html#.Uyrvc6JuK9U

III: How Ronald Reagan and Alan Greenspan Pulled off one of the Greatest Frauds Ever Perpetrated against the American People

Ronald Reagan and Alan Greenspan pulled off one of the greatest frauds ever perpetrated against the American people in the history of this great nation, and the underlying scam is still alive and well, more than a quarter century later. It represents the very foundation upon which the economic malpractice that led the nation to the great economic collapse of 2008 was built. Ronald Reagan was a cunning politician, but he didn’t know much about economics. Alan Greenspan was an economist, who had no reluctance to work with a politician on a plan that would further the cause of the right-wing goals that both he and President Reagan shared….

Exactly what Reagan did, with the help of Alan Greenspan. Consider the following sequence of events:

1) President Reagan appointed Greenspan as chairman of the 1982 National Commission on Social Security Reform (aka The Greenspan Commission)

2) The Greenspan Commission recommended a major payroll tax hike to generate Social Security surpluses for the next 30 years, in order to build up a large reserve in the trust fund that could be drawn down during the years after Social Security began running deficits.

3) The 1983 Social Security amendments enacted hefty increases in the payroll tax in order to generate large future surpluses.

4) As soon as the first surpluses began to role in, in 1985, the money was put into the general revenue fund and spent on other government programs. None of the surplus was saved or invested in anything. The surplus Social Security revenue, that was paid by working Americans, was used to replace the lost revenue from Reagan’s big income tax cuts that went primarily to the rich.

5) In 1987, President Reagan nominated Greenspan as the successor to Paul Volker as chairman of the Federal Reserve Board. Greenspan continued as Fed Chairman until January 31, 2006. (One can only speculate on whether the coveted Fed Chairmanship represented, at least in part, a payback for Greenspan’s role in initiating the Social Security surplus revenue.)

6) In 1990, Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York, a member of the Greenspan Commission, and one of the strongest advocates the the 1983 legislation, became outraged when he learned that first Reagan, and then President George H.W. Bush used the surplus Social Security revenue to pay for other government programs instead of saving and investing it for the baby boomers. Moynihan locked horns with President Bush and proposed repealing the 1983 payroll tax hike. Moynihan’s view was that if the government could not keep its hands out of the Social Security cookie jar, the cookie jar should be emptied, so there would be no surplus Social Security revenue for the government to loot. President Bush would have no part of repealing the payroll tax hike. The “read-my-lips-no-new-taxes” president was not about to give up his huge slush fund.

How Your Social Security Money Was Stolen ? Where Did the $2.5 Trillion Surplus Go? | AmpedStatus
It's not the liberals that have been trying to destroy Social Security for the last 70 years, it's the cons. So your "both parties are doing it", is just a con job.

Your own source said that the dems were also complicit in raiding SS.
Didn't you even read the article that you posted, or did you just cherry pick the parts that you wanted to place blame with? You, Hungover, are a disingenuous twit...and that may be a compliment to your character.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Yeah a few on line job applications a week Now that's what i call hard work.

So, why say they arent doing anything when clearly you know the procedures? I mean, why lie about it then cop to it and dismiss it?

Do you really think spending 10 minutes a week on line to fill out a few bogus job apps worthy of hundreds of dollars a week?

Any person who actually worked for a living would call that getting paid to do nothing.

Before you move on to the 2nd bogus point. Why lie about "doing nothing" when you clearly know they have to do something in order to receive the benefits? You can call it "apple pie" but that doesnt mean you're going to put a scoop of vanilla ice cream on it.

What will lying about it accomplish here?

btw...it takes about 10 min (or more) to fill one online job application...sooo again...

 

[kaz]

The $5 trillion you wasted on Iraq would have paid for yours AND mine. Quit giving America's wealth to foreign countries, and start taking care of Americans, idiot.
And another thing, there are far more people that have paid into SS that never lived long enough to collect, than have collected.
And another thing, the cons have raided over $2 trillion from SS. The interest from that alone would pay for mine AND yours.
http://http://angrybearblog.com/2013/12/social-security-trust-fund-ratios-solvency-and-the-reagan-raid.html

None of those points would have made social security not a welfare program.

Well first idiot, I was against Iraq, so I don't know what your point is.

And as for your claim that it's one party and not both parties doing it to us, what can I say, you're just an idiot. It's all of them.

Same old lame con bullshit. All you got is childish insults. Try debating on an adult level, with facts. Here's some......

LOL, I did back to you what you did to me, and you threw a rod. I did it back to you because it was stupid, I was showing you that. You agreed! What an idiot. It was even in the quote, moron.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Is this a thread about construction?

I don't expect you to have the brains to connect the dots..well actually...you do have the brains. But your willingness to lie to yourself blocks those synapses from completing their connections.

Jesus with all the bluster. Whats your point?

Wow...so you really don't have the brains to connect the dots.

Ok...I am bored, so I will connect the dots for you:
Every picture I have posted in this thread, which must be close to a dozen now, are just a tiny fraction of all of the Federal Housing projects of the 1950's-1980's. Nearly all have since been abandoned/destroyed.
The question of the OP is "does welfare create laziness" - as in does it cause people to WILLINGLY stay unemployed to continue to getting welfare/housing/food stamps/etc.
These photos answer that question better than any chart, graph or spreadsheet.
These housing projects are the remnants of the infamous "Welfare State" of that era.
Entire CIVILIZATIONS existed from the welfare state. Whole cultures developed. Entire sections of towns were decimated in crime/drugs.
Now...for Christ' sake - GET IT????

 

[ClosedCaption]

I don't expect you to have the brains to connect the dots..well actually...you do have the brains. But your willingness to lie to yourself blocks those synapses from completing their connections.

Jesus with all the bluster. Whats your point?

Wow...so you really don't have the brains to connect the dots.

Ok...I am bored, so I will connect the dots for you:
Every picture I have posted in this thread, which must be close to a dozen now, are just a tiny fraction of all of the Federal Housing projects of the 1950's-1980's. Nearly all have since been abandoned/destroyed.
The question of the OP is "does welfare create laziness" - as in does it cause people to WILLINGLY stay unemployed to continue to getting welfare/housing/food stamps/etc.
These photos answer that question better than any chart, graph or spreadsheet.
These housing projects are the remnants of the infamous "Welfare State" of that era.
Entire CIVILIZATIONS existed from the welfare state. Whole cultures developed. Entire sections of towns were decimated in crime/drugs.
Now...for Christ' sake - GET IT????

Thats why I didnt understand it. You are making correlations out of thin air.

Housing projects exist therefore Welfare does make you lazy...? You missed a few steps in between like what does the existence of housing projects have to do with "laziness" or any other human characteristic? Where is the proof that those people were lazy? Is your mailing address indication of how much gumption you have?

 

[Againsheila]

Does welfare make people lazy? - The Week

For some certainly,having seen generational welfare daily,a yes is correct.

It's made a lot of cheap restaurants and corporations like walmart very greedy. Why pay their employees a living wage when they can get assistance from our tax dollars?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Does welfare make people lazy? - The Week

The best way to measure whether the unemployed are behaving lazily is by examining the ratio of job seekers to job openings. If the problem is that unemployed people are slacking off work to enjoy the fruits of government welfare, we would expect to see a shortage of labor in the economy. Employers trying to recruit workers to expand their businesses would come up against the fact that job seekers are in short supply. Job vacancies would go unfilled and wages would be bid upward as businesses fight to recruit scarce labor away from the easy option of free welfare money. In such a scenario, cutting welfare would incentivize work, and help businesses fill vacancies.

And here is where the evidence undercuts conservative attacks on welfare. The data shows decisively that the problem is not laziness at all, but a lack of job openings. There are still three jobseekers for every job opening. In the dark days following the 2008 recession, that ratio was as high as seven people for every job opening. Wage growth remains weak. Surely there are still people who would rather claim welfare than try to work, but with so few jobs available, these people don't make a real difference. Trying to nudge them off welfare won't expand the supply of jobs. It would increase the number of people looking for a job — and remember, there are already not enough jobs for those seeking employment

 

[Claudette]

None of those points would have made social security not a welfare program.

Well first idiot, I was against Iraq, so I don't know what your point is.

And as for your claim that it's one party and not both parties doing it to us, what can I say, you're just an idiot. It's all of them.

Same old lame con bullshit. All you got is childish insults. Try debating on an adult level, with facts. Here's some......


http://http://field-negro.blogspot.com/2014/02/rethinking-reagan.html#.Uyrvc6JuK9U

III: How Ronald Reagan and Alan Greenspan Pulled off one of the Greatest Frauds Ever Perpetrated against the American People

Ronald Reagan and Alan Greenspan pulled off one of the greatest frauds ever perpetrated against the American people in the history of this great nation, and the underlying scam is still alive and well, more than a quarter century later. It represents the very foundation upon which the economic malpractice that led the nation to the great economic collapse of 2008 was built. Ronald Reagan was a cunning politician, but he didn’t know much about economics. Alan Greenspan was an economist, who had no reluctance to work with a politician on a plan that would further the cause of the right-wing goals that both he and President Reagan shared….

Exactly what Reagan did, with the help of Alan Greenspan. Consider the following sequence of events:

1) President Reagan appointed Greenspan as chairman of the 1982 National Commission on Social Security Reform (aka The Greenspan Commission)

2) The Greenspan Commission recommended a major payroll tax hike to generate Social Security surpluses for the next 30 years, in order to build up a large reserve in the trust fund that could be drawn down during the years after Social Security began running deficits.

3) The 1983 Social Security amendments enacted hefty increases in the payroll tax in order to generate large future surpluses.

4) As soon as the first surpluses began to role in, in 1985, the money was put into the general revenue fund and spent on other government programs. None of the surplus was saved or invested in anything. The surplus Social Security revenue, that was paid by working Americans, was used to replace the lost revenue from Reagan’s big income tax cuts that went primarily to the rich.

5) In 1987, President Reagan nominated Greenspan as the successor to Paul Volker as chairman of the Federal Reserve Board. Greenspan continued as Fed Chairman until January 31, 2006. (One can only speculate on whether the coveted Fed Chairmanship represented, at least in part, a payback for Greenspan’s role in initiating the Social Security surplus revenue.)

6) In 1990, Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York, a member of the Greenspan Commission, and one of the strongest advocates the the 1983 legislation, became outraged when he learned that first Reagan, and then President George H.W. Bush used the surplus Social Security revenue to pay for other government programs instead of saving and investing it for the baby boomers. Moynihan locked horns with President Bush and proposed repealing the 1983 payroll tax hike. Moynihan’s view was that if the government could not keep its hands out of the Social Security cookie jar, the cookie jar should be emptied, so there would be no surplus Social Security revenue for the government to loot. President Bush would have no part of repealing the payroll tax hike. The “read-my-lips-no-new-taxes” president was not about to give up his huge slush fund.

How Your Social Security Money Was Stolen ? Where Did the $2.5 Trillion Surplus Go? | AmpedStatus
It's not the liberals that have been trying to destroy Social Security for the last 70 years, it's the cons. So your "both parties are doing it", is just a con job.

Your own source said that the dems were also complicit in raiding SS.
Didn't you even read the article that you posted, or did you just cherry pick the parts that you wanted to place blame with? You, Hungover, are a disingenuous twit...and that may be a compliment to your character.

Of course the Dems were involved.

Hell. LBJ is the ******* idiot that put SS in the General fund where its been ever since.

He needed money for the Viet Nam War. The Clowns in DC have been robbing it blind ever since.

If it had been left right where it was SS would never be in any trouble. Now its full of IOU's from all those ******* Clowns who rob it when they need money.

Of course those same ******* Clowns don't rob their own SS, which gets payed into a seperate fund. They just rob everybody else.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Jesus with all the bluster. Whats your point?

Wow...so you really don't have the brains to connect the dots.

Ok...I am bored, so I will connect the dots for you:
Every picture I have posted in this thread, which must be close to a dozen now, are just a tiny fraction of all of the Federal Housing projects of the 1950's-1980's. Nearly all have since been abandoned/destroyed.
The question of the OP is "does welfare create laziness" - as in does it cause people to WILLINGLY stay unemployed to continue to getting welfare/housing/food stamps/etc.
These photos answer that question better than any chart, graph or spreadsheet.
These housing projects are the remnants of the infamous "Welfare State" of that era.
Entire CIVILIZATIONS existed from the welfare state. Whole cultures developed. Entire sections of towns were decimated in crime/drugs.
Now...for Christ' sake - GET IT????

Thats why I didnt understand it. You are making correlations out of thin air.

Housing projects exist therefore Welfare does make you lazy...? You missed a few steps in between like what does the existence of housing projects have to do with "laziness" or any other human characteristic? Where is the proof that those people were lazy? Is your mailing address indication of how much gumption you have?

Holy ****....
SHit fire..
Okay....these housing projects prior to the welfare state...wait for it...DID NOT EXIST.
They didn't build these massive complexes, some housing as many as 100,000 people...and magically people just appeared in the apartments.
At this time, poorer people - MANY WHO HAD JOBS - lived in older sections of these cities that had become PRIME LOCATIONS in those cities.
City planners wanted their homes/apartments. The people DID NOT WANT TO MOVE. They had jobs where they lived. The proposed complexes were waaay away from where they lived. In fact most were in the middle of nowhere.
Sooo...to solve this problem. The government made a trade-off with the city planners/corporations who wanted the prime real estate these pesky black people lived in.
Let's offer them free money, let's make the apartments heavily subsidized or even free, let's give them free food to boot. Hell they won't even need jobs!! Everybody wins.
But...the planners made a grave error. They didn't realize that once they started offering free living to whoever came for the asking - the demand exploded. The populations of the projects became enormous. Generations of welfare recipients were born.
They created a massive dependent society that had absolutely no incentive to get jobs. Everything was paid for.
Until President Clinton enacted the welfare reform, which required them to work and limited each person to a lifetime 5 year max to be on welfare.
Obama - has removed the work requirements and wants to remove the lifetime caps.
Get ready for more massive housing projects to be rebuilt.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Wow...so you really don't have the brains to connect the dots.

Ok...I am bored, so I will connect the dots for you:
Every picture I have posted in this thread, which must be close to a dozen now, are just a tiny fraction of all of the Federal Housing projects of the 1950's-1980's. Nearly all have since been abandoned/destroyed.
The question of the OP is "does welfare create laziness" - as in does it cause people to WILLINGLY stay unemployed to continue to getting welfare/housing/food stamps/etc.
These photos answer that question better than any chart, graph or spreadsheet.
These housing projects are the remnants of the infamous "Welfare State" of that era.
Entire CIVILIZATIONS existed from the welfare state. Whole cultures developed. Entire sections of towns were decimated in crime/drugs.
Now...for Christ' sake - GET IT????

Thats why I didnt understand it. You are making correlations out of thin air.

Housing projects exist therefore Welfare does make you lazy...? You missed a few steps in between like what does the existence of housing projects have to do with "laziness" or any other human characteristic? Where is the proof that those people were lazy? Is your mailing address indication of how much gumption you have?

Holy ****....
SHit fire..
Okay....these housing projects prior to the welfare state...wait for it...DID NOT EXIST.
They didn't build these massive complexes, some housing as many as 100,000 people...and magically people just appeared in the apartments.
At this time, poorer people - MANY WHO HAD JOBS - lived in older sections of these cities that had become PRIME LOCATIONS in those cities.
City planners wanted their homes/apartments. The people DID NOT WANT TO MOVE. They had jobs where they lived. The proposed complexes were waaay away from where they lived. In fact most were in the middle of nowhere.
Sooo...to solve this problem. The government made a trade-off with the city planners/corporations who wanted the prime real estate these pesky black people lived in.
Let's offer them free money, let's make the apartments heavily subsidized or even free, let's give them free food to boot. Hell they won't even need jobs!! Everybody wins.
But...the planners made a grave error. They didn't realize that once they started offering free living to whoever came for the asking - the demand exploded. The populations of the projects became enormous. Generations of welfare recipients were born.
They created a massive dependent society that had absolutely no incentive to get jobs. Everything was paid for.
Until President Clinton enacted the welfare reform, which required them to work and limited each person to a lifetime 5 year max to be on welfare.
Obama - has removed the work requirements and wants to remove the lifetime caps.
Get ready for more massive housing projects to be rebuilt.

I dare you to find ONE piece of evidence this was the idea and it was implemented

 

[Againsheila]

It's funny to see a thread full of people convinced that welfare makes people lazy when they themselves have never been on welfare and have no actual first hand experience.

Experts! Every last one of them.

And guess why I have never been on welfare.
Something about making the right choices and when I didn't, and many times I didn't, I never asked the government to help me.
I went to my church, my family, my friends and my community.
Get off your ass and go help these poor souls in need and quit giving them your middlefinger and telling them to **** themselves, you do not have time for them and they need to call government.

So, you've never been on welfare, you've just lived of the charity of others, and that's suppose to make you a better person???

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Thats why I didnt understand it. You are making correlations out of thin air.

Housing projects exist therefore Welfare does make you lazy...? You missed a few steps in between like what does the existence of housing projects have to do with "laziness" or any other human characteristic? Where is the proof that those people were lazy? Is your mailing address indication of how much gumption you have?

Holy ****....
SHit fire..
Okay....these housing projects prior to the welfare state...wait for it...DID NOT EXIST.
They didn't build these massive complexes, some housing as many as 100,000 people...and magically people just appeared in the apartments.
At this time, poorer people - MANY WHO HAD JOBS - lived in older sections of these cities that had become PRIME LOCATIONS in those cities.
City planners wanted their homes/apartments. The people DID NOT WANT TO MOVE. They had jobs where they lived. The proposed complexes were waaay away from where they lived. In fact most were in the middle of nowhere.
Sooo...to solve this problem. The government made a trade-off with the city planners/corporations who wanted the prime real estate these pesky black people lived in.
Let's offer them free money, let's make the apartments heavily subsidized or even free, let's give them free food to boot. Hell they won't even need jobs!! Everybody wins.
But...the planners made a grave error. They didn't realize that once they started offering free living to whoever came for the asking - the demand exploded. The populations of the projects became enormous. Generations of welfare recipients were born.
They created a massive dependent society that had absolutely no incentive to get jobs. Everything was paid for.
Until President Clinton enacted the welfare reform, which required them to work and limited each person to a lifetime 5 year max to be on welfare.
Obama - has removed the work requirements and wants to remove the lifetime caps.
Get ready for more massive housing projects to be rebuilt.

I dare you to find ONE piece of evidence this was the idea and it was implemented

Your are embarrassing yourself.
The question remains how on earth can you NOT know about the massive segregation of blacks in the 50's and 60's.
Are you Canadian or something? I am being serious.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Holy ****....
SHit fire..
Okay....these housing projects prior to the welfare state...wait for it...DID NOT EXIST.
They didn't build these massive complexes, some housing as many as 100,000 people...and magically people just appeared in the apartments.
At this time, poorer people - MANY WHO HAD JOBS - lived in older sections of these cities that had become PRIME LOCATIONS in those cities.
City planners wanted their homes/apartments. The people DID NOT WANT TO MOVE. They had jobs where they lived. The proposed complexes were waaay away from where they lived. In fact most were in the middle of nowhere.
Sooo...to solve this problem. The government made a trade-off with the city planners/corporations who wanted the prime real estate these pesky black people lived in.
Let's offer them free money, let's make the apartments heavily subsidized or even free, let's give them free food to boot. Hell they won't even need jobs!! Everybody wins.
But...the planners made a grave error. They didn't realize that once they started offering free living to whoever came for the asking - the demand exploded. The populations of the projects became enormous. Generations of welfare recipients were born.
They created a massive dependent society that had absolutely no incentive to get jobs. Everything was paid for.
Until President Clinton enacted the welfare reform, which required them to work and limited each person to a lifetime 5 year max to be on welfare.
Obama - has removed the work requirements and wants to remove the lifetime caps.
Get ready for more massive housing projects to be rebuilt.

I dare you to find ONE piece of evidence this was the idea and it was implemented

Your are embarrassing yourself.

So you have nothing. Good.

The question remains how on earth can you NOT know about the massive segregation of blacks in the 50's and 60's.
Are you Canadian or something? I am being serious.

Thats what I thought. I know about segregation I asked for proof of the bolded and now you are trying to move away from it. Now you want to discuss segregation? As long as you can write nice fiction to tell yourself who needs proof right? No thanks, You'll just make up another story and want to talk about something different again

 

[Spiderman]

So, why say they arent doing anything when clearly you know the procedures? I mean, why lie about it then cop to it and dismiss it?

Do you really think spending 10 minutes a week on line to fill out a few bogus job apps worthy of hundreds of dollars a week?

Any person who actually worked for a living would call that getting paid to do nothing.

Before you move on to the 2nd bogus point. Why lie about "doing nothing" when you clearly know they have to do something in order to receive the benefits? You can call it "apple pie" but that doesnt mean you're going to put a scoop of vanilla ice cream on it.

What will lying about it accomplish here?

btw...it takes about 10 min (or more) to fill one online job application...sooo again...

Wow anything to justify the welfare state huh?

Why not pay them for taking a shit every day?

 

[ClosedCaption]

Do you really think spending 10 minutes a week on line to fill out a few bogus job apps worthy of hundreds of dollars a week?

Any person who actually worked for a living would call that getting paid to do nothing.

Before you move on to the 2nd bogus point. Why lie about "doing nothing" when you clearly know they have to do something in order to receive the benefits? You can call it "apple pie" but that doesnt mean you're going to put a scoop of vanilla ice cream on it.

What will lying about it accomplish here?

btw...it takes about 10 min (or more) to fill one online job application...sooo again...

Wow anything to justify the welfare state huh?

Why not pay them for taking a shit every day?

So you lied about it why?

 

[Spiderman]

Before you move on to the 2nd bogus point. Why lie about "doing nothing" when you clearly know they have to do something in order to receive the benefits? You can call it "apple pie" but that doesnt mean you're going to put a scoop of vanilla ice cream on it.

What will lying about it accomplish here?

btw...it takes about 10 min (or more) to fill one online job application...sooo again...

Wow anything to justify the welfare state huh?

Why not pay them for taking a shit every day?

So you lied about it why?

I do not consider applying for a job as doing something no one does except you of course.

 

[ClosedCaption]

So this is the pattern Iamwhatiseem and Spiderman says some shit. I ask them to prove it. They either insult and/or refuse to prove it.

Calls everyone stupid for not believing them

 

[ClosedCaption]

Wow anything to justify the welfare state huh?

Why not pay them for taking a shit every day?

So you lied about it why?

I do not consider applying for a job as doing something no one does except you of course.

It doesnt matter what you consider it, you knew about it and lied about it to create a narrative

 

[Spiderman]

So this is the pattern Iamwhatiseem and Spiderman says some shit. I ask them to prove it. They either insult and/or refuse to prove it.

Calls everyone stupid for not believing them

I'm not calling you stupid. I'm calling you lazy because no one who works considers filling out a form worth getting paid for.