Does the current event of Cali wildfires contribute to manmade global warming? Scientists claim wildfires release huge quantities of greenhouse gases.

[ColonelAngus]

Cali is prone to these environmental disasters that must contribute to climate change so much.

Billions of cubic yards of smoke in the atmosphere.

What is Cali doing to prevent these fires?

ESSD - Global fire emissions estimates during 1997–2016

essd.copernicus.org

 

[martybegan]

Cali is prone to these environmental disasters that must contribute to climate change so much.

Billions of cubic yards of smoke in the atmosphere.

What is Cali doing to prevent these fires?

ESSD - Global fire emissions estimates during 1997–2016

essd.copernicus.org

That released carbon is short cycle, it's been sequestered as plant matter for less than a century. It has no real impact on AGW calcs.

If AGW is a thing, the only carbon that matters is from long cycle release, from fossil fuels and volcanic activity.

 

[1srelluc]

That released carbon is short cycle, it's been sequestered as plant matter for less than a century. It has no real impact on AGW calcs.

If AGW is a thing, the only carbon that matters is from long cycle release, from fossil fuels and volcanic activity.

That's a pretty bold statement there Bub.....Did you pay for a "study" to back that up?

 

[martybegan]

That's a pretty bold statement there Bub.....Did you pay for a "study" to back that up?

It's not a study, it's common sense based on understanding of the global carbon cycle.

Or in this case, cycles, the short term carbon cycle and the long term one.

Short term and long term based on geological timelines, not human ones.

 

[1srelluc]

It's not a study, it's common sense based on understanding of the global carbon cycle.

Or in this case, cycles, the short term carbon cycle and the long term one.

Short term and long term based on geological timelines, not human ones.

I know, just hackin' on ya.

 

[toobfreak]

Cali is prone to these environmental disasters that must contribute to climate change so much.
Billions of cubic yards of smoke in the atmosphere.
What is Cali doing to prevent these fires?

I think Trump ought to declare California an environmental danger zone in violation of EPA regulations and fine Gavin a billion dollars for releasing tons of carbon into the air.

 

[toobfreak]

It's not a study, it's common sense based on understanding of the global carbon cycle.
Or in this case, cycles, the short term carbon cycle and the long term one.
Short term and long term based on geological timelines, not human ones.

Long term short term bullshit. That short term carbon at some point CAME from long term carbon. It is all part of the same carbon cycle.
Carbon released into the air is the same whether from burning coal or burning California trees.
I only see one entry for carbon on the periodic table, hun.

 

[EMH]

What is Cali doing to prevent these fires?

the CO2 FRAUD gleefully misdiagnoses the fires. The increase in fires is caused by too many humans consuming too much finite land based fresh water, which is leaving plant life too dry all over the planet.

The Band Aid solution is desalination, and we should do that now.

In the end, human population growth needs to stop. This is "stage 1" of human overpopulation, and we do not want to get to "stage 2."



And any "climate alarmist" who claims the increase in fires is "because of warming" is off the scale wrong (on both counts)


When Earth warms it get wetter, and a wetter Earth has FEWER FIRES NOT MORE...

jurassic warmer wetter - Google Search

During the Jurassic Period, the Earth's climate was much warmer and wetter than it is today

 

[ColonelAngus]

Cali abandoned the fire prevention tactics they have always used in the past.

Here is what you get.

On Twitter, someone posted video of a homeless person setting a garbage pile on fire.

I wonder if these multiple independent fires are arson.

The left will blame GLOBAL WARMING. I say MANMADE GLOBAL WARMING IS NOT THE CAUSE OF A DRY SOCAL AND THE SANTA ANA WINDS.

 

[JWBooth]

The city of Los Angeles has a very DEI fire chief. Guess who had their fire fighters in unrelated “training” and declined to fill the reservoirs?

 

[martybegan]

Long term short term bullshit. That short term carbon at some point CAME from long term carbon. It is all part of the same carbon cycle.
Carbon released into the air is the same whether from burning coal or burning California trees.
I only see one entry for carbon on the periodic table, hun.

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As an element, not as part of the balance of WHERE it is in the system at a given time and at given proportions.

The theory of AGW is we are taking carbon sequestered long term in things like fossil fuel and returning it to the atmosphere quicker than it can be re-sequestered in long term storage AND quicker than the short term cycle can adjust to take it out of the atmosphere and sequester it in larger amounts of living material.

Also remember I am a proponent of not ruining our standard of living over all this, but of adjusting like we have always done to changes made in our environment, be it man made or natural.

 

[ColonelAngus]

I think Trump ought to declare California an environmental danger zone in violation of EPA regulations and fine Gavin a billion dollars for releasing tons of carbon into the air.

You read my mind, and this is EXACTLY where I was going.

If I am evil because I drive a Suburban, the greenhouse gases and pollution from these Cali wildfires are like a billon Suburbans and a trillion COW FARTS.

WE MUST STOP COW FARTS, BUT WE WILL NOT PREVENT WILDFIRES! HUH?

 

[ColonelAngus]

The city of Los Angeles has a very DEI fire chief. Guess who had their fire fighters in unrelated “training” and declined to fill the reservoirs?

There is a video of her claiming her #1 goal is DEI. She claimed there can never be enough DEI in the LAFD.

 

[ColonelAngus]

I WILL ONLY ALLOW BLACK LESBIANS TO EXTINGUISH THE FIRE BURNING DOWN MY HOUSE!

 

[martybegan]

I WILL ONLY ALLOW BLACK LESBIANS TO EXTINGUISH THE FIRE BURNING DOWN MY HOUSE!

Actually most of them are pretty butch, so that might actually work out.

 

[toobfreak]

The theory of AGW is we are taking carbon sequestered long term in things like fossil fuel and returning it to the atmosphere quicker than it can be re-sequestered in long term storage AND quicker than the short term cycle can adjust to take it out of the atmosphere and sequester it in larger amounts of living material.

Yeah, I get the THEORY, what I am just pointing out is that lots of carbon out there was at one time bound up in long term storage where it then becomes available to enter short term cycles, so once carbon (like so many things) leaves long term storage, you can never be sure of its path after that.

Likely, carbon that you can pick up right off the ground might have spent millions of years bound up in long term storage, was released into short term storage millions of years ago, then returned to long term storage for millions of years only to find itself now back again part of short term cycles.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Actually most of them are pretty butch, so that might actually work out.

Super, then DEI is not needed as the fire chief claims. What a lying bitch.

 

[EMH]

As an element, not as part of the balance of WHERE it is in the system at a given time and at given proportions.

The theory of AGW is we are taking carbon sequestered long term in things like fossil fuel and returning it to the atmosphere quicker than it can be re-sequestered in long term storage AND quicker than the short term cycle can adjust to take it out of the atmosphere and sequester it in larger amounts of living material.

Also remember I am a proponent of not ruining our standard of living over all this, but of adjusting like we have always done to changes made in our environment, be it man made or natural.

If there was actually any real data to support the AGW thesis, but there is not. Increasing atmospheric CO2 did nothing according to the two and only two measures of atmospheric temps we have, satellites and balloons, and that is why CO2 FRAUD fudged both in 2005 with laughably bullshit excuses...

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

Rainforests can have temps over 100F and not burn at all. Burning plant life is not about temperature, it is about water.

 

[martybegan]

Yeah, I get the THEORY, what I am just pointing out is that lots of carbon out there was at one time bound up in long term storage where it then becomes available to enter short term cycles, so once carbon (like so many things) leaves long term storage, you can never be sure of its path after that.

Oh I agree 100% with that. you have dissolving in water, increased production of sedimentary rocks, as well as increases in plant growth, ocean life growth, and animal growth.

Plenty of AGW fanatics don't get the difference between releasing short term carbon vs long term carbon.

 

[martybegan]

If there was actually any real data to support the AGW thesis, but there is not. Increasing atmospheric CO2 did nothing according to the two and only two measures of atmospheric temps we have, satellites and balloons, and that is why CO2 FRAUD fudged both in 2005 with laughably bullshit excuses...

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

Rainforests can have temps over 100F and not burn at all. Burning plant life is not about temperature, it is about water.

We are taking carbon out from those long term sources quicker than it is probably being sequestered, probably.

The thing is the system is so complex we have no idea how the system is trying to balance that out.