Zone1 Does Satan work for Jesus?

If Christians are correct that Jesus can resurrect the dead, does Satan work for Jesus?

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  • Yes

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  • I do certainly hope so!?

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  • I CERTAINLY DO HOPE NOT???!!

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I admit that this question is going to be rather controversial but a pretty powerful case can be presented from The Book of Job as well as from the Christian scriptures that perhaps, Satan is obeying every command that he receives from Jesus, [who apparently has the authority to send people like near death experiencer Robert Marshall back to this earth with a mission that is relevant for all doctors and all nurses and all medical personnel in the USA and Canada and all the world]!

So if Satan is working for Jesus what is his job perhaps rather like?

Well, on one level I believe that perhaps the Psychological Research that Satan has been doing on us humans can be compared with The Milgram Experiment?

And the Lord said unto Satan, “Hast thou considered My servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one who feareth God and escheweth evil?”

9 Then Satan answered the Lord and said, “Doth Job fear God for nought?

10 Hast not Thou made a hedge about him and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? Thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance hath increased in the land.

11 But put forth Thine hand now and touch all that he hath, and he will curse Thee to Thy face!”

And the Lord said unto Satan, “Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand.” So Satan went forth from the presence of the Lord.
[Job 1]


Note: this topic is designed to cause the wealthiest of the wealthy to consider their ways because if the eight thousand five hundred or so mega-wealthy investors were to begin to question what they are doing and why they are doing it, voila, we could set in motion "The Great Wealth Transfer From The Wicked To the Righteous!"


I believe that former Covering Cherub Helel, [who is known to Christians as Lucifer - Satah], knows that all truth is being revealed at this time and you can rest assured that he knows that his own methods with his own most loyal followers will soon be questioned?

[Mary K. Baxter] :

Mary K. Baxter :
"Jesus told me that there is a place in hell called the "fun center." Souls confined to the pits cannot be brought there. He also told me that though torments are different for different souls, all are burned with fire. The fun center is shaped like a circus arena.

Several people who are to be the entertainment are brought to the center ring of the fun center. These are people who knowingly served Satan on earth. They are the ones who, of their own free will, chose to follow Satan instead of God. Around the sides of the arena are the other souls, except those from the pits.

The ones in the center ring were leaders in the occult world before their death. They were mediums, soothsayers, sorcerers, mind readers, witches and warlocks --- all those who consciously made a choice to serve Satan. When they were alive on earth, they deceived many and caused them to follow Satan and to sin. The ones who had been deceived are were caused to fall into sin came and tormented their deceivers. One by one they were allowed to torture them." (A Divine Revelation of Hell, The Horrors of Hell, by Mark K. Baxter, page 96). ......

..... "As Jesus was speaking, Satan was saying to his subjects, "Ha-ha, this is your kingdom --- all the kingdom you will ever have. My kingdom covers all the earth and the world below." I heard him shout, "This is your life for eternity!" While cries of regret came from the burning cells.

Jesus said, "My salvation is free. Whoever will, let him come and be saved from this place of everlasting punishment. I will not cast him out. If you have been a witch or a warlock, even if you have a written agreement with the devil, My power will break it, and My shed blood will save you. I will take the evil curse off your life and redeem you from hell. Give me your heart that I may unchain you and set you free." (Mary K. Baxter, page 100 and 101).


My goal here is to give good reason to the ten million most well paid C. E. O's, movie stars, elected officials, rock stars and high ranking members of the occult to seriously consider running to JESUS because it seems that perhaps Satan is doing a "Judas Betrayal Power Ritual" on all of his most loyal followers and servants?


[Job 2]

Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord.

2 And the Lord said unto Satan, “From whence comest thou?” And Satan answered the Lord and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking up and down upon it.”

3 And the Lord said unto Satan, “Hast thou considered My servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one who feareth God and escheweth evil? And still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst Me against him to destroy him without cause.”

And Satan answered the Lord and said, “Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life.

5; But put forth Thine hand now and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse Thee to Thy face!”

6 And the Lord said unto Satan, “Behold, he is in thine hand; only spare his life.”

7 So went Satan forth from the presence of the Lord, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown.


Is it not logical that all of this might tend to remind me of The Milgram Experiment that was done at the time of the Nuremburg War Crimes Trials?


Near death experiencer Robert Marshall spoke with Jesus for forty three hours and twenty eight minutes. Jesus told Robert that the earth was three point six billion years old and that Satan had began to fall seventy million years ago and had fully fallen by sixty five million years ago.

I believe that this is critical information in order to understand what is really happening on this earth?


 
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I admit that this question is going to be rather controversial

Does Satan work for Jesus? Impossible to answer when asked that way.
Christ can resurrect the dead, but that does not mean always in the same form as you once knew.
 
Does Satan work for Jesus? Impossible to answer when asked that way.
Christ can resurrect the dead, but that does not mean always in the same form as you once knew.

If you were Satan would you be somewhat suspicious that "Azazel" was going to be restored to his Creator, much as General Abner brought the ten tribes of Israel over to King David, or as Rabbi Shaul became The Apostle Paul who went from persecuting Messianic Jews to promoting their movement], and if so, would you already know in advance that your kingdom is going to be DIVIDED and once that happens that your kingdom will soon fall?

If Satan knows that his kingdom will soon be Divided and will fall, might he make plans for the future that might remind us of events that were rumoured to happen in 1945 and 1946 such as "Operation Paperclip?"


“And Aaron shall offer the bull as a sin offering for himself, and shall make atonement for himself and for his house. 7;Then he shall take the two goats, and set them before the Lord at the door of the tent of meeting; 8;and Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats, one lot for the Lord and the other lot for Aza′zel. 9;And Aaron shall present the goat on which the lot fell for the Lord, and offer it as a sin offering; 10;but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza′zel shall be presented alive before the Lord to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness to Aza′zel.

[Leviticus 16, RSV]


Paul was a pretty scary guy before his radical conversion.

Agrippa said to Paul, “You have permission to speak for yourself.” Then Paul stretched out his hand and made his defense:

2;“I think myself fortunate that it is before you, King Agrippa, I am to make my defense today against all the accusations of the Jews, 3because you are especially familiar with all customs and controversies of the Jews; therefore I beg you to listen to me patiently.

“My manner of life from my youth, spent from the beginning among my own nation and at Jerusalem, is known by all the Jews. 5They have known for a long time, if they are willing to testify, that according to the strictest party of our religion I have lived as a Pharisee. 6 And now I stand here on trial for hope in the promise made by God to our fathers, 7to which our twelve tribes hope to attain, as they earnestly worship night and day. And for this hope I am accused by Jews, O king! 8;Why is it thought incredible by any of you that God raises the dead?

“I myself was convinced that I ought to do many things in opposing the name of Jesus of Nazareth. 10And I did so in Jerusalem; I not only shut up many of the saints in prison, by authority from the chief priests, but when they were put to death I cast my vote against them. 11And I punished them often in all the synagogues and tried to make them blaspheme; and in raging fury against them, I persecuted them even to foreign cities.






 
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I should give you the source of information related to a "Judas Betrayal Power Ritual?"

Once we understand this tactic that is used at pretty high levels in the occult, the past decade will begin to make a lot more sense.

Elected officials seem to have been selling citizens to the highest bidder in 2019 to 2022. Following is the interview in which I heard about this for the first time in my life.



The Story Behind the Mysterious Death of the Most Famous Satanist in America​


742,257 views Jul 29, 2024 ✪ Members first on July 27, 2024 Almost False Podcast

Anton LaVey is one of the most famous and powerful Satanists of all time, but the circumstances of his death remain a mystery. This video is the testimony of Pastor Dave Bryan, who witnessed the death of Anton LeVay on October 31st, 1997. It turns out that Halloween day had a lot more to do with Anton’s daughter than with Anton himself, and to understand the circumstances of Anton’s death, we had to go back to the very beginning of this whole story, to a time when Dave had no idea what kind of mess he was about to get into.


IF, it is true that Satan is actually working for Jesus then in a sense Satan set up Evangelist John Ramirez to become one of Jesus's most courageous and powerful servants by leading John Ramirez into deep darkness before his 1999 repentance.

As of today in December of 2025 I am reminded of the Apostle Paul more so by Evangelist and near death experiencer John Ramirez and near death experiencer Robert Marshall and by near death experiencer Kevin L. Zadai and by near death experiencer and former Atheist Howard Storm, than I am by any other Christian theologians.





 
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Satan and Jesus are characters in a story. They work for the storyteller.

Now that is certainly an interesting comment!

Messiah Yeshua - Jesus made it clear that The Father was doing the miracles and that He personally was NOT doing the miracles that occurred all around Him.

Messiah Yeshua - Jesus also stated emphatically that his disciples were far better off with The Holy Spirit that He was about to send to them on Pentecost, as opposed to Him living on and on and on and on and on!

I believe that this means that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, [Isa the Prophet to Muslims, Shalom be upon Him], is at most the THIRD most powerful person in the universe or multiverse BUT....... His having lived out His life as a mere human and then going to hell for three days and three nights sets him up so that the fate of any and all humans is in the hands of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, which, catapults Him into a position of astonishing power over the lives of us humans.

I am guessing that this could cause you to question WHY would Jesus allow The Holocaust to occur if He has been given so much power and authority at this time?


 
Tricky question. Satan HATES Jesus yet he has to flee in the mention of His name so I really don't know. :dunno:(Please go slow with me, I have learning developmental disabilities. I just understood the subject enough to post what I do understand about it.)
 
Tricky question. Satan HATES Jesus yet he has to flee in the mention of His name so I really don't know. :dunno:(Please go slow with me, I have learning developmental disabilities. I just understood the subject enough to post what I do understand about it.)
My goal here is to give information to those who are involved in the worship of Satan to realize that they should immediately follow the excellent example that was set by former Satanist John Ramirez.

His great zeal to work for Jesus after his 1999 near death experience is proof that even those who have gone into deep darkness can be forgiven and can become powerful servants of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus.


 
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My goal here is to give information to those who are involved in the worship of Satan to realize that they should immediately follow the excellent example that was set by former Satanist John Ramirez.

His great zeal to work for Jesus after his 1999 near death experience is proof that even those who have gone into deep darkness can be forgiven and can become powerful servants of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus.




Oh okay but it's still a legit point isn't it because is the devil intimidated by Jesus or not?
 
Oh okay but it's still a legit point isn't it because is the devil intimidated by Jesus or not?
Exactly!

In the case of how Satan drove Job to a whole new level of repentance Satan did not go beyond exactly what God told him that he must not do. My guess is that Job's condition was somewhat like the Laodicean Era of the church but after his temptations he would be like the Philadelphia Era.

If this idea is accurate then this makes the Book of Job one of the most important that can be understood at this time when the Philadelphian Era is being separated from the Laodicean Era.

ChristisKing... YOU are going through an open door by being here on this forum. Way to go!


And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;

8;I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.

9;Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

10;Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

11;Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

12;Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

13;He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

14;And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

15;I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

16;So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

17;Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

18I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

19As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

 
What if satan was jesus? What if satan became jesus and claimed all this crap to deceive, and keep people away from the original abrahamic religion? I mean, if you think about it, the NT is based on magic, the christianity people believe in today is based off mistranslations and whatever rome wanted you to believe, and jesus was obviously based off earlier idols from other religions.
 
Exactly!

In the case of how Satan drove Job to a whole new level of repentance Satan did not go beyond exactly what God told him that he must not do. My guess is that Job's condition was somewhat like the Laodicean Era of the church but after his temptations he would be like the Philadelphia Era.

If this idea is accurate then this makes the Book of Job one of the most important that can be understood at this time when the Philadelphian Era is being separated from the Laodicean Era.

ChristisKing... YOU are going through an open door by being here on this forum. Way to go!


Thanks I guess it's just sort of confusing. If he's so powerful or thinks he's so powerful then why must he take orders from God?
 
Thanks I guess it's just sort of confusing. If he's so powerful or thinks he's so powerful then why must he take orders from God?


My guess is that Satan has been permitted to do very dark and pessimistic research on us human which results in us humans being able to learn off the scale valuable traits of character from this experience of being humans and facing such great temptations and opposition from Satan and the fallen Watchers and the many types of creatures that ended up. I believe that Satan is involved in HUMBLING all of us Christians in a rather extreme way so that we will seek God with our whole hearts.


[Rick Joyner, The Final Quest] :

The Evil Army


I saw a demonic army so large that it stretched as far as I could see. It was separated into divisions, with each carrying a different banner. The foremost and most powerful divisions were Pride, Self righteousness, Respectability, Selfish Ambition, and Unrighteous Judgment, but the largest of all was Jealousy. The leader of this vast army was the Accuser of the Brethren himself. I knew that there were many more evil divisions beyond my scope of vision, but these were the vanguard of this terrible horde from hell that was now being released against the church.

The weapons carried by this horde had names on them: the swords were named Intimidation; the spears were named Treachery; and their arrows were named Accusations, Gossip, Slander and Faultfinding. Scouts and smaller companies of demons with such names as Rejection, Bitterness, Impatience, Un-forgiveness and Lust were sent in advance of this army to prepare for the main attack. I knew in my heart that the church had never faced anything like this before.

The main assignment of this army was to cause division. It was sent to attack every level of relationship-churches with each other, congregations with their pastors, husbands and wives, children and parents, and even children with each other. The scouts were sent to locate the openings in churches, families or individuals that rejection, bitterness, lust, etc., could exploit and make a larger breech for the divisions that were coming.

The most shocking part of this vision was that this horde was not riding on horses, but on Christians! Most of them were well-dressed, respectable, and had the appearance of being refined and educated. These were Christians who had opened themselves to the powers of darkness to such a degree that the enemy could use them and they would think that they were being used by God. The Accuser knows that a house divided cannot stand, and this army represented his ultimate attempt to bring such complete division to the church that she would completely fall from grace.​


The Prisoners



 
What if satan was jesus? What if satan became jesus and claimed all this crap to deceive, and keep people away from the original abrahamic religion? I mean, if you think about it, the NT is based on magic, the christianity people believe in today is based off mistranslations and whatever rome wanted you to believe, and jesus was obviously based off earlier idols from other religions.

Satan will not resurrect a man and give him a new brain and internal organs after oxygen deprivation has destroyed his brain and organs.



PROFOUND NDE: BRAIN DEAD for 90 MINUTES; Met JESUS in HEAVEN & RETURNED w/ MESSAGE | Robert Marshall​


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My guess is that Satan has been permitted to do very dark and pessimistic research on us human which results in us humans being able to learn off the scale valuable traits of character from this experience of being humans and facing such great temptations and opposition from Satan and the fallen Watchers and the many types of creatures that ended up. I believe that Satan is involved in HUMBLING all of us Christians in a rather extreme way so that we will seek God with our whole hearts.


I don't really understand what you're saying all that much, but that brings up another question. Was Satan as the serpent permitted to tempt Adam and Eve?
 
I don't really understand what you're saying all that much, but that brings up another question. Was Satan as the serpent permitted to tempt Adam and Eve?

Actually Satan entered a creature who sounded like a Raptor according to other ancient books that give more details than are in the Book of Genesis.

It is like Satan needs to take over in the mind of a physical being to be able to speak.


[The Book of Adam and Eve] :
Chapter XVII - The Chapter of the Serpent.

1 The Adam and Eve came out at the mouth of the cave, and went towards the garden. 2 But as they went near it, before the western gate, from which Satan came when he deceived Adam and Eve, they found the serpent that became Satan coming at the gate, and sorrowfully licking the dust, and wiggling on its breast on the ground, by reason of the curse that fell on it from God. 3 And whereas before the serpent was the most exalted of all beasts, now it was changed and become slippery, and the meanest of them all, and it crept on its breast and went on its belly. 4 And whereas it was the fairest of all beasts, it had been changed, and was become the ugliest of them all. Instead of feeding on the best food, now it turned to eat the dust. Instead of living, as before, in the best places, now it lived in the dust. 5 And, whereas it had been the most beautiful of all beasts, all of which stood dumb at its beauty, it was now abhorred of them. 6 And, again, whereas it lived in one beautiful home, to which all other animals came from elsewhere; and where it drank, they drank also of the same; now, after it had become venomous, by reason of God's curse, all beasts fled from its home, and would not drink of the water it drank; but fled from it.

Chapter XVIII - The mortal combat with the serpent.

1 When the accursed serpent saw Adam and Eve, it swelled its head, stood on its tail, and with eyes blood- red, acted like it would kill them. 2 It made straight for Eve, and ran after her; while Adam standing by, cried because he had no stick in his hand with which to hit the serpent, and did not know how to put it to death. 3 But with a heart burning for Eve, Adam approached the serpent, and held it by the tail; when it turned towards him and said to him: -- 4 "O Adam, because of you and of Eve, I am slippery, and go on my belly." Then with its great strength, it threw down Adam and Eve and squeezed them, and tried to kill them. 5 But God sent an angel who threw the serpent away from them, and raised them up. 6 Then the Word of God came to the serpent, and said to it, "The first time I made you slick, and made you to go on your belly; but I did not deprive you of speech. 7 This time, however, you will be mute, and you and your race will speak no more; because, the first time My creatures were ruined because of you, and this time you tried to kill them." 8 Then the serpent was struck mute, and was no longer able to speak. 9 And a wind blew down from heaven by the command of God and carried away the serpent from Adam and Eve, and threw it on the seashore where it landed in India.


 
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Actually Satan entered a creature who sounded like a Raptor according to other ancient books that give more details than are in the Book of Genesis.

It is like Satan needs to take over in the mind of a physical being to be able to speak.


So is that why possession happens?
 
Satan will not resurrect a man and give him a new brain and internal organs after oxygen deprivation has destroyed his brain and organs.



PROFOUND NDE: BRAIN DEAD for 90 MINUTES; Met JESUS in HEAVEN & RETURNED w/ MESSAGE | Robert Marshall​


You will believe anything lol
He was in a coma. He wasnt brain dead.
 
You will believe anything lol
He was in a coma. He wasnt brain dead.

I got the book and I read the medical updates. His lungs filled up with blood and so this went way beyond a mere coma.


Question:

What is the book 44 Hours In Heaven About?




This is a true story and testimony from a man named Robert, who died three times on May 19th, 2024. He explains how he died by suffocating, drowning in his blood in his lungs, acute hypoxic respiratory failure, and cardiac arrest. The result was his suffering oxygen deprivation to his brain for a total of approximately 90 minutes and about his visits to Heaven each time he died.


Each time he died, he went to Heaven. The 1st time he went to Heaven was for 15 minutes; the 2nd time was for 17 minutes; and the 3rd time was for 43 hours and 28 minutes. In the book 44 Hours in Heaven, he shares what Heaven is like, the conversations he had with Jesus, and what he learned.



The following excerpt from chapter 10 in the book "44 Hours In Heaven" contains what Jesus commanded Robert to do.


Jesus said, "You will worship Me in truth and spirit, and you will do as I command you."


Jesus then told him what He would require him to do, “You will worship Me in Truth and Spirit, and you will do as I command you.”


“In doing so, you will share how and why you were given life again."


“You will share with anybody that I put in your path and will entertain any questions about what I shared and taught you from anybody who asks.”



and

"Upon entering the emergency room, the admission staff quickly observed the medical emergency: I was having difficulty breathing. I was immediately escorted to the care area of the ER and met with a member of the medical team who performed the perfunctory vital signs and symptom identification.


The hospital staff responded to my symptoms and ordered a new CT scan and a broader, all- encompassing blood test. The results showed I had “unstable/abnormal vital signs and life-threatening conditions,” as described in my medical record. I was at risk of my airway being blocked by the mass indicated on the CT scan and I needed emergency intubation with ventilator support. They moved me to a surgical suite, inserted the oral intubation tube, and admitted me to the ICU immediately."
Emergency Room Medical Note:

IMPRESSION:

Increased inflammatory change in the deep left neck soft tissues with worsening swelling of the epiglottis and moderate to severe airway narrowing. Additional inflammatory change involving the left submandibular fossa and submandibular gland as well as the left anterior belly of the digastric. Findings suggest worsening infectious pharyngitis/tonsillitis/epiglottitis. No drainable collection.


Left glossotonsillar sulcus fullness persists. Although superimposed infection is likely, evaluation for an underlying malignancy should be pursued. Direct visualization and tissue sampling may be warranted by ENT. Follow-up CT neck with contrast in one to 3 months is recommended to confirm resolution.

No cervical lymphadenopathy by size criteria.

Incidental severe spinal canal narrowing C5-6 due to ossification of the posterior longitudinal ligament.

For the next two days, I rested comfortably, my body fighting the infection with the help of IV antibiotics, and the intubation tube that kept the mass away from my airway.
[Robert and Carol Marshall, Forty Four Hours in Heaven," page 13]
 
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