Zone1 Does Egypt Owe Israel Clear Title to Gaza?

[PeterPilot]

^^^ I stopped reading when this antisemite mocked the Torah, but I bet he went on to diss the Jews.

Must be another Brit.

Cognitive dissonance requires that you do that--block facts that contradict your world view. In fact Lisa, I mock ALL religious books. I am an equal opportunity mocker. The religious books are propaganda advancing superstition. The Torah may be at the top of the list given its instructions to go out and kill others. The New Testament doesn't do that and I don't think the Koran does either, but I could be wrong.

LOL, I guess you would rather pretend that Deuteronomy 7 be swept under the rug, eh?

 

[Lisa558]

Cognitive dissonance requires that you do that--block facts that contradict your world view. In fact Lisa, I mock ALL religious books. I am an equal opportunity mocker. The religious books are propaganda advancing superstition. The Torah may be at the top of the list given its instructions to go out and kill others. The New Testament doesn't do that and I don't think the Koran does either, but I could be wrong.

LOL, I guess you would rather pretend that Deuteronomy 7 be swept under the rug, eh?

I would prefer YOU be swept under the rug, and remain there.

 

[PeterPilot]

I would prefer YOU be swept under the rug, and remain there.

Yes I know. Dissonance requires any inconvenient facts be blocked, and any messenger describing those facts.

 

[CowboyTed]

Yup. About 20% of Israel’s citizens are Arabs.

The only ethnicity forced out, and had their land stolen, was the Jews - and by the Arabs - throughout the Middle East.

So what happened during Nakba?

Please give us your interpretation of History..

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1467-923X.13166

 

[Lisa558]

Yes I know. Dissonance requires any inconvenient facts be blocked, and any messenger describing those facts.

I am under no obligation to listen to the rants of Jew-haters.

 

[PeterPilot]

I am under no obligation to listen to the rants of Jew-haters.

I don't hate Jews. In my younger days I made love to Jewish women.

 

[rosends]

LOL, I guess you would rather pretend that Deuteronomy 7 be swept under the rug, eh?

what part of Deut 7 do you have in mind?

 

[PeterPilot]

what part of Deut 7 do you have in mind?

The part where "The Lord" told the Jews to kill other tribes and seize the land "The Lord" gave them.

 

[rosends]

The part where "The Lord" told the Jews to kill other tribes and seize the land "The Lord" gave them.

And why is that a problem? If you don't believe in the authenticity and authority of the Jewish bible then you might as well start by mocking the creation story instead of skipping ahead to find some later law that you disagree with. Or maybe you needn't mock, or assume that Jews are not familiar with their own texts or want to sweep any of the texts under the rug.

 

[PeterPilot]

And why is that a problem? If you don't believe in the authenticity and authority of the Jewish bible then you might as well start by mocking the creation story instead of skipping ahead to find some later law that you disagree with. Or maybe you needn't mock, or assume that Jews are not familiar with their own texts or want to sweep any of the texts under the rug.

It's not a problem for me. It is an explanation for why the Jews of the Zionist persuasion covet their neighbor's land and rape their women and kill their children in the name of "The Lord". I suspect the same sentiment motivated Einstein when he objected to statehood for the Zionists but strongly favored a homeland for the Jewish people. He was right. The Zionists are murderous and hateful barbarians.

 

[rosends]

It's not a problem for me. It is an explanation for why the Jews of the Zionist persuasion covet their neighbor's land and rape their women and kill their children in the name of "The Lord".

that's funny. I mean, you mock what you don't understand and that's hilarious!

I suspect the same sentiment motivated Einstein when he objected to statehood for the Zionists but strongly favored a homeland for the Jewish people. He was right. The Zionists are murderous and hateful barbarians.

do you worry about my opinion about physics? Why worry about Einstein's political views?

 

[PeterPilot]

that's funny. I mean, you mock what you don't understand and that's hilarious!

do you worry about my opinion about physics? Why worry about Einstein's political views?

My mind is broader and more curious than yours rosends. You are constrained by your faith, reluctant to reason.

 

[rosends]

My mind is broader and more curious than yours rosends. You are constrained by your faith, reluctant to reason.

Your mind is empty and less informed than I am. You are limited by your lack of knowledge.

 

[IM2]

Lisa,

Shut up and go study about the Nakba.

 

[PeterPilot]

Your mind is empty and less informed than I am. You are limited by your lack of knowledge.

Your posts on this topic suggest you are kidding yourself. They suggest you do not know right from wrong.

 

[rosends]

Your posts on this topic suggest you are kidding yourself. They suggest you do not know right from wrong.

Your posts indicate that you know nothing at all.

 

[PeterPilot]

Your posts indicate that you know nothing at all.

Or, you simply don't like what I'm saying.

 

[rosends]

Or, you simply don't like what I'm saying.

Why would I like things that are wrong? If you like wrong things, super to you. Me? I look at what's correct, informed, sourced and accurate.

 

[PeterPilot]

Why would I like things that are wrong? If you like wrong things, super to you. Me? I look at what's correct, informed, sourced and accurate.

Facts that threaten your worldview your mind sees as wrong.

 

[Foxfyre]

Given Egypt’s history of treatment of the Jews, I’d say Egypt should take back the Egyptians (now called Gazans) into the country, and acknowledge the region belongs to the Land of Isrsel.

1) Egypt’s aggression in the six-day war, in which it attempted to wipe Israel off the map, was a humiliating loss, and Israel won that land. (Some would say won the land back.)

2) Egypt expelled all its Jews about 60 years ago, upon 24 hours notice, and forced the Jews to deed over all their land, houses, and other assets. This land now belongs to the descendants of those who stole it, and Jews were driven to Israel penniless. To be fair, Gaza should be deeded over to a) the descendants of those who had their land stolen, which would be their grandparents, and 2) Israel in general upon which to build a thriving Jewish community.

Jews of Egypt

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

Interesting theory. For sure relocating the so-called 'Palestinians' elsewhere and not having that threat on their southern border would make life much more pleasant and secure for the Israelis. If we had a competent and ethical U.N. that would already have been done.

The U.N. did the right thing years ago and allowed Israel to keep the Golan Heights. But now we have a U.N. so corrupt that it made Iran chair of the special Human Rights Council in 2023.

And now with Hezbollah also making war on Israel, the U.N. should move the 'Palestinians' out of the West Bank and relocate them so Israel can deal appropriately with that vicious enemy.