Dobbs was the worst thing that could happen to Republicans.

[Astrostar]

Before Dobbs, the Republicans could placate the Religious Right and Social Conservatives by speaking out against Abortion. This was essentially harmless. With Roe as the law of the land, there was no hope of actually doing anything. And best of all, the Republicans couldn’t be blamed for doing nothing. The Supreme Court had ruled and the poor politicians were powerless to do anything about it.

So some fool in the audience screams that “Abortion is Murder” and the politician could agree and lament about how awful it was and it’s a shame the Supremes gave us this awful ruling.

Then Dobbs came and the Republicans got what they said they wanted. Only, it’s not going the way they wanted.

Abortions After Dobbs

The number of legal abortions has held steady, if not increased, after the Supreme Court’s ruling.

www.nytimes.com

Abortions have remained the same, and indications are that there has been an increase since Dobbs.

So the stated goal to stop abortions, has failed. They are about the same and even possibly increasing. So the “have to save lives” mentality is taking it right on the nose.

For decades polling indicated that most people supported a woman’s right to choose. The Anti Abortion people swore that these were push polls. They were fiction. These polls were lies. A vast majority wanted to save the unborn babies.

Even when Abortion was an issue in an election, the Republican would win. But nobody stopped to consider it might be because the voters didn’t think the politician could do anything about the issue.

Now of course we are in a post Dobbs world. The problem is that the Republicans don’t know what to do. It turns out the polls were right. The majority of voters actually are pro choice. In the meantime the Republicans have become defined by fierce opposition to Abortion.

It is worse for Trump. He proudly announced he had done this. He had packed the court with anti abortion Judges who overturned Roe.

The Republicans are now demanding that the important issues, the ones that matter are the economy, and immigration, and the deficit. The voters appear to think Abortion is pretty important.

I don't think the far rights war against abortion was ever about "right to life" or "unborn babies." It was about sex and having sex without the religious blessing of marriage. Therefore, a pregnancy outside of marriage must be punished by forcing the mother to have the baby with the included demands of motherhood as her punishment for her sin. As the infamous Rush Limbaugh called it, "abortion on demand." If their real concern was about the babies, they would be more concerned about their needs after birth. As it stands now, they could care less.

 

[meaner gene]

They dont kill lenders during bankrupt proceedings

But unwanted babies?

Libs kill them

The lenders can lose a lot. Look what happened after Enron. Peopled committed suicide.

 

[meaner gene]

DNA in the sperm came from the man's mother and father.
Ergo, your argument fails.

A fetus is not a unique organism. Absent the female it cannot exist.

AND

your desire to use the government to force your religious views on others is immoral and unconstitutional.
AND
Definitely not conservative.

Strangely their zeal against abortion, doesn't address the greatest number of abortions, the "spontaneous abortions" AKA miscarriages. The abortions performed by GOD.

 

[GMCGeneral]

As a "conservative" that's been on your agenda for 50 years.
But a fetus is still not a baby.
Get a dictionary. It will help clear things for you.

A fucking distinction without a difference. You know, To-MAY-to, to-MAH-to; Po-TAY-to, po-Tah-to.

 

[MagicMike]

They dont kill lenders during bankrupt proceedings

But unwanted babies?

Libs kill them

They aren't "babies."
They are undesireable and unwanted cellular masses.
Think tumors.

 

[meaner gene]

If their real concern was about the babies, they would be more concerned about their needs after birth. As it stands now, they could care less.[/I]

They protect the fetus up until birth, but once the baby enters the world, they punish the child along with the mother.

 

[meaner gene]

They aren't "babies."
They are undesireable and unwanted cellular masses.
Think tumors.

Although it's just a movie, purely made up fiction, but it serves a lesson. The Alien movie series, where the aliens "impregnate" hosts, and gestate inside of them. Only to burst from their chests killing their hosts during their "birth".

Under republican abortion bans, doctors would be powerless to try and save the hosts life. And the aliens would take over the world.

But that's just fiction... nothing like that could ever happen.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I said at the time of the decision that they fucked-up and the 15-week compromise was the way to go.....I knew what was in store because the holy-roller beholden politicians would not be able to help themselves.

Frankly, women who desire to live consequence-free lives probably shouldn’t be passing-on their DNA or that of the boys they are fucking. Let them abort themselves out of the gene pool.

“Dobbs was the worst thing that could happen to Republicans.”

True.

Classic example of ‘be careful of what you wish for.’

 

[Dadoalex]

A fucking distinction without a difference. You know, To-MAY-to, to-MAH-to; Po-TAY-to, po-Tah-to.

No, there is a difference.
Perhaps dropping out in the third grade, in retrospect, wasn't your best decision.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

So the stated goal to stop abortions, has failed. They are about the same and even possibly increasing. So the “have to save lives” mentality is taking it right on the nose.

The goal was never about ‘saving babies’ or “states’ rights” – it was about more government, bigger government at the expense of individual liberty, compelling conformity and punishing dissent.

 

[Freedomisneverfree]

The only effective way to reduce abortions is to reduce the number of pregnancies. But this is the side that the anti-abortion people never talk about

Liberal women should keep their legs closed.

 

[GMCGeneral]

No, there is a difference.
Perhaps dropping out in the third grade, in retrospect, wasn't your best decision.

Nope. You support exploiting women and butchering babies, moron.

 

[Dadoalex]

Nope. You support exploiting women and butchering babies, moron.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

Says the guy who wants pregnant women imprisoned so they don't offend his sensibilities.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And your ignorance of the language is so amusing my tiny minded pop thrower.

 

[1srelluc]

“Dobbs was the worst thing that could happen to Republicans.”

True.

Classic example of ‘be careful of what you wish for.’

Yep.

 

[Mac-7]

The lenders can lose a lot. Look what happened after Enron. Peopled committed suicide.

Drunken party girl:

“My baby was soooo embarrassed having me for a parent that he wrapped himself in the umbilical cord and committed suicide”

 

[Mac-7]

They aren't "babies."
They are undesireable and unwanted cellular masses.
Think tumors.

“ unwanted cellular mass” is liberish for “baby”

 

[MinTrut]

Translation:
“Don’t become retaliatory, be more like those traditional hardcore Bible thumping ‘Conservatives’, the ones who would look the other way and pretend shit wasn’t happening….the ones who didn’t conserve, preserve or protect anything, the ones with no ball-sack, the one’s that would polish the AR-15’s they’d never have the nuts to use, the foolish pussified suckers we could easily bully, easily steer their way of thinking by throwing a Bible verse in their face…we could get those passive dumbass pussies to accept anything with a simple guilt trip. The nutless bastards finally grew a pair of balls and now they won’t ignore us disgusting, immoral, globalist degenerates as we run amok, trashing and transforming their nation into the no borders, no boundaries anything goes socialist foreign shithole we seek.”

Zincwarrior

You need to get spelunking before all the good places are gone, bro.

People making life-changing decisions for themselves - what's next?

Carriages that propel themselves without the aid of a God-made horse????

 

[MinTrut]

Screw you again, tell people to stop having unprotected sex, be responsible. By the way I have an adopted daughter thanks. You are a ghoul

Nothing ghoulish about cheerleading Israel's murder of children.

But yeah - check out the latest places in Better Caves & Prepping, bra.

In the meantime, we'll be living in the 21st century and making our own best healthcare decisions.

 

[MinTrut]

You mean birth control?
Which the right wants to outlaw.

^ Moloch made him say that.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Before Dobbs, the Republicans could placate the Religious Right and Social Conservatives by speaking out against Abortion. This was essentially harmless. With Roe as the law of the land, there was no hope of actually doing anything. And best of all, the Republicans couldn’t be blamed for doing nothing. The Supreme Court had ruled and the poor politicians were powerless to do anything about it.

So some fool in the audience screams that “Abortion is Murder” and the politician could agree and lament about how awful it was and it’s a shame the Supremes gave us this awful ruling.

Then Dobbs came and the Republicans got what they said they wanted. Only, it’s not going the way they wanted.

Abortions After Dobbs

The number of legal abortions has held steady, if not increased, after the Supreme Court’s ruling.

www.nytimes.com

Abortions have remained the same, and indications are that there has been an increase since Dobbs.

So the stated goal to stop abortions, has failed. They are about the same and even possibly increasing. So the “have to save lives” mentality is taking it right on the nose.

For decades polling indicated that most people supported a woman’s right to choose. The Anti Abortion people swore that these were push polls. They were fiction. These polls were lies. A vast majority wanted to save the unborn babies.

Even when Abortion was an issue in an election, the Republican would win. But nobody stopped to consider it might be because the voters didn’t think the politician could do anything about the issue.

Now of course we are in a post Dobbs world. The problem is that the Republicans don’t know what to do. It turns out the polls were right. The majority of voters actually are pro choice. In the meantime the Republicans have become defined by fierce opposition to Abortion.

It is worse for Trump. He proudly announced he had done this. He had packed the court with anti abortion Judges who overturned Roe.

The Republicans are now demanding that the important issues, the ones that matter are the economy, and immigration, and the deficit. The voters appear to think Abortion is pretty important.

Sometimes doing the right thing hurts…