Do you support Muslims emigrating to the U.S.?

[Carl in Michigan]

It didn't start Oct. 7. The IDF is responsible for far more death and suffering than Hamas could ever even hope to.

Gaza–Israel conflict - Wikipedia

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Your chart shows PALESTINIAN ATTACKS leading to an overwhelming response from Israel. Smart people would learn to quit attacking Israel. Palestinians ain't too bright

2014 the kidnapping and murder of three Israeli teenagers in the West Bank by Hamas-affiliated Palestinian militants, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) initiated Operation Brother's Keeper

 

[Carl in Michigan]

It didn't start Oct. 7. The IDF is responsible for far more death and suffering than Hamas could ever even hope to.

Gaza–Israel conflict - Wikipedia

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Regarding 2009 on your chart, this is what led up to it:

The Paper addresses the context of the Gaza Operation and notes that Israel had both a right and an obligation to take military action against Hamas in Gaza to stop Hamas' almost incessant rocket and mortar attacks upon thousands of Israeli civilians and its other acts of terrorism. Israel was bombarded by some 12,000 rockets and mortar shells between 2000 and 2008, including nearly 3,000 rockets and mortar shells in 2008 alone. Hamas specifically timed many of its attacks to terrorise schoolchildren in the mornings and the afternoons. These deliberate attacks caused deaths, injuries, and extensive property damage; forced businesses to close; and terrorised tens of thousands of residents into abandoning their homes

If California was hit by 12000 rockets from Mexico, would we be justified to respond?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

It didn't start Oct. 7. The IDF is responsible for far more death and suffering than Hamas could ever even hope to.

Gaza–Israel conflict - Wikipedia

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2018 response to Gaza/Hamas attack

From March 30 to December 5, Palestinian militant groups launched more than 1,150 rockets and mortars from the Gaza Strip toward arbitrary or civilian targets in Israel. Gaza-based militants shot and killed one Israeli soldier, and a rocket launched by Gaza-based militants killed one Palestinian laborer in Ashkelon.

 

[Captain Caveman]

You really are barking up the wrong tree. As a practicing Christian, my belief is that hate and racism is wrong. In fact, that's why I posted on this thread in the first place, because I had to say something against the hate and bigotry. I don't believe in judging someone because of their race or religion. I wouldn't want to be judged for my race or religion... and I TRY to live by the Golden Rule. I don't hate Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists or any other people group.

Now, if all you're going to do is continue to attack me, as you've done in your last few posts, then I have zero interest in continuing. This is why I almost never post to you. Because you are always slandering anyone who doesn't agree with you on the M.E, in a hateful, spiteful way.

Judging people and your decisions based on this with regards to race, colour, age, sex, nationality etc.. are all prejudices. And sometimes in some situations you have to. Would I employ a pikey (travellers, typical Irish) or let a pikey do work for me? Would I hell, they're robbing bastards. The original meaning of racism was were you felt superior over another race, the modern meaning is prejudice against blacks.

If you lived in an area where a certain group caused 80% of the crime, would you trust every member of that group? I would say you would be foolish if you said yes, and then if you end up as a victim, that's your own fault.

You are probably ignoring the word, "Intent".

 

[Carl in Michigan]

If hate and racism are wrong, why do you blame Jews for the horrific actions of Hamas?

Buttercup has the luxury of not being a schoolgirl in Israel, taking cover daily as the air raid sirens go off

 

[Quantrill]

Not according to most people. It's a religion

According to Islam it is poltical with a religion.

From: (Islam Beliefs And Teachings, Ghulam Sarwar, The Muslim Educational Trust, 2003)

Politics is a part of Islam. It cannot be separated from it. Indeed, the separation of religion and politics is meaningless in Islam. We have already learnt that Islam is a complete system of life, and politic's is very much a part of our collective life. Juist as Islam teaches us how to say Salah, observe Sawm, pay Zakah and undertake Haijj, so it teaches us how to run a state, form a government, elect representatives, make treaties and conduct trade." p. (169)

"There is not a perfect Islamic state in the world today. There are many Muslim countries." p. (171)

"However, organised efforts are being made in many parts of the world to establish an Islamic system of government to implement the laws of the Quran and Sunnah." p. (171)

"Muhammad's duty, according to the Quran, was to make Islam supreme over all other systems of life.....In other words, you can say that Muhammad's duty as the final messenger of Allah was to establish the truth and remove falsehood from society. As Muslims, we must also work towards the establishment of the supremacy of Allah's Law and the removal of evil from the society in which we live. This is Jihad." p. (79-80)

"Muslims, wherever they are, form one nation." p. (203)

"Shariah is the code of law for the Islamic way of life....It is the best system of law from Allah for humanity to follow." p. (153)

"Shariah prescribes a complete set of laws for the guidance of mankind so that Good is established and Evil is removed from society." p. (153)

"The Quran is the main basis of Shariah." p. (153)

"Shariah has rules for every aspect of life."

Quantrill

 

[MisterBeale]

If California was hit by 12000 rockets from Mexico, would we be justified to respond?

If California treated Hispanics in the same disparate way that Israel treats the Palestinians?

Probably not.

 

[MisterBeale]

Your chart shows PALESTINIAN ATTACKS leading to an overwhelming response from Israel. Smart people would learn to quit attacking Israel. Palestinians ain't too bright

2014 the kidnapping and murder of three Israeli teenagers in the West Bank by Hamas-affiliated Palestinian militants, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) initiated Operation Brother's Keeper

If governments didn't disenfranchise and oppress specific populations of people in an apartheid system, such things would more than likely not have a reason to occur.

 

[Lisa558]

If California treated Hispanics in the same disparate way that Israel treats the Palestinians?

Probably not.

Are the Hispanics sneaking into towns on a holiday, and chopping off the heads of non-Hispanic babies, setting the non-Hispanic toddlers on fire, and raping the non-Hispanic women to death?

Are the Hispanics lobbing rockets into non-Hispanic areas in hopes that many will be killed?

Your anti-Jew bias is on full display.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

It didn't start Oct. 7. The IDF is responsible for far more death and suffering than Hamas could ever even hope to.

Gaza–Israel conflict - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

True that it didn't start on Oct, although the support for such barbarity in this forum is absolutely sickening.

It started back in the 30s when a Nazi collaborator by the name of Haj al Husseini organized the first terrorist attacks against Jews -- the so-called "Arab revolts".

BTW -- any guess as to the real last name of one "Yasser Arafat"?

anybody?

Anybody?

Ferris?

 

[Anathema]

I don’t approve of the immigration of anyone who puts a qualifier/identifier before “American” in their description. Not Muslim-American. Not Christian-American. Not Irish-American. Nothing.

 

[Lisa558]

If governments didn't disenfranchise and oppress specific populations of people in an apartheid system, such things would more than likely not have a reason to occur.

1) And in your desperation to blame the Jews, you ignore that the government DID offer the Gazans their own land IF they were willing to live in peace next to Israel. They refused.

2) How is Israel “disenfranchising” the Gazans? They vacated Gaza 20 years and left them their freedom to live how they want. So they elect a terrorist regime sworn to the destruction of Israel and her Jews, and repeatedly initiate attacks against the Jews.

 

[Lisa558]

True that it didn't start on Oct, although the support for such barbarity in this forum is absolutely sickening.

It started back in the 30s when a Nazi collaborator by the name of Haj al Husseini organized the first terrorist attacks against Jews -- the so-called "Arab revolts".

BTW -- any guess as to the real last name of one "Yasser Arafat"?

anybody?

Anybody?

Ferris?

Well, you just gave it away. Must be Haj al Husseini.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Well sure, that is the point I'm always trying to get across--- that this isn't like a few Polish families moving into the neighborhood wanting to have a few polka parties at the local American Legion a few times a year, these people are /required/ by Sharia orthodoxy to establish Sharia Law as the governing body wherever they go, and under their law, we people from the West must either surrender and submit yourself as a dhimmi (servant/subject) to them, or leave the area, or pretty much sooner or later, they will deal with you by throwing you off a roof or something.

People fail to understand that Islam is a supremacist ideology that calls for Islam to reign supreme -- understandable, because it was a manifesto cobbled together by a murderous warlord to bind his troops to him.

True religions arise organically as a result of the beliefs of a people. Islam was created by one man and with a specific purpose -- to dominate. Although it was written to include religious elements to provide the warrior gravitas, those who have a phobia against criticizing religious beliefs miss the entire point of why it was created as intentionally as it was.

 

[Lisa558]

I don’t approve of the immigration of anyone who puts a qualifier/identifier before “American” in their description. Not Muslim-American. Not Christian-American. Not Irish-American. Nothing.

How do you feel about the people identifying as African-American? They should just be called Americans.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Well, yoy just gave it away. Must be Haj al Husseini.

He wasn't named Haj, but yes, he is from the family of the Nazi Mufti.

 

[Lisa558]

He wasn't named Haj, but yes, he is from the family of the Nazi Mufti.

And the people who insist on defending the Arabs and blaming the Jews keep saying that Arabs always treated Jews well - and that trouble only started after the “Jews stole their land.”

 

[Anathema]

How do you feel about the people identifying as African-American? They should just be called Americans.

Yes they should. If you have a loyalty to anyone r anything above this country, please feel free to leave.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Yes they should. If you have a loyalty to anyone r anything above this country, please feel free to leave.

God above all
Family
Country

 

[Dogmaphobe]

1) And in your desperation to blame the Jews, you ignore that the government DID offer the Gazans their own land IF they were willing to live in peace next to Israel. They refused.

2) How is Israel “disenfranchising” the Gazans? They vacated Gaza 20 years and left them their freedom to live how they want. So they elect a terrorist regime sworn to the destruction of Israel and her Jews, and repeatedly initiate attacks against the Jews.

He is so desperate that he calls the complete truth "fake news".