Do you support Muslims emigrating to the U.S.?

[AZrailwhale]

Know nothings bitched about Little Italy, Southie, and Chinatown too.

The difference is that Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism don't kill their members who convert or become agnostic or non-religious. Islam not only allows it but encourages killing infidels and backsliders. Even so-called moderate Muslims often have children who are violent. Look at the Boston Marathon Bombers for examples. Immigrant children became radicalized to the point where they attempted to commit mass murder of infidels despite having spent most of their lives in the USA. Their parents were so-called moderates, but both were collecting welfare while working and the mother lost her job in a beauty shop because she refused to work in an establishment that also serviced men according to Wikki. That doesn't indicate any attempt to assimilate into American culture to me.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Know nothings bitched about Little Italy, Southie, and Chinatown too.

Ther is a difference between those neighborhoods and Little Somalia and other Muslim enclaves. My Grandmother grew up in Cincinatti Ohio. She told me that when she was a girl, you heard German there like you hear Spanish in the various barrios now, today, the only evidence of the German presence is a lot of good German restaurants and bakeries.

 

[Unkotare]

The difference is that Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism don't kill their members who convert or become agnostic or non-religious. Islam not only allows it but encourages killing infidels and backsliders. Even so-called moderate Muslims often have children who are violent. Look at the Boston Marathon Bombers for examples. Immigrant children became radicalized to the point where they attempted to commit mass murder of infidels despite having spent most of their lives in the USA. Their parents were so-called moderates, but both were collecting welfare while working and the mother lost her job in a beauty shop because she refused to work in an establishment that also serviced men according to Wikki.

Do you really think there’s any religion that doesn’t have a history of violence? Hell, atheists have killed more people than any other religion.

 

[Unkotare]

Ther is a difference between those neighborhoods and Little Somalia and other Muslim enclaves. bakeries.

Yeah, they were afraid and distrustful of those people then and you are afraid and distrustful of these people now. Notice a pattern?

 

[MetalMars]

Do you really think there’s any religion that doesn’t have a history of violence? Hell, atheists have killed more people than any other religion.

The difference is that most other religions have grown out of the violence phase many years ago. I think it is a legitimate concern whether immigrants will assimilate, or if they have violent beliefs against all others who are different.

 

[Delldude]

The difference is that most other religions have grown out of the violence phase many years ago. I think it is a legitimate concern whether immigrants will assimilate, or if they have violent beliefs against all others who are different.

They still adhere to Islamic fundamentalism in many cases.....no enlightenment period or easing/adapting to changing metrics.

 

[Unkotare]

The difference is that most other religions have grown out of the violence phase many years ago. ...

Really? Which ones?

 

[Unkotare]

...or if they have violent beliefs against all others who are different.

No need for religion for that.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

It's easy to tell that most of these folks have probably never been to the Middle East. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if some of them have never been outside the US. But they're sure good parrots of everything they've been brainwashed to believe by the establishment.

You hate Jews but have never been to Israel.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Look, let's state this plainly:

1. FACT ONE: Islam's Sharia Law is fundamentally incompatible with western law. Muslims are not about race or even culture as much as to import Sharia Law here and have it supersede our own.
2. FACT TWO: The oft-stated intent by muslims willing to speak frankly is not to immigrate here to become Americans, attracted to our way of life, but to expand and bring THEIR culture HERE.

So, when speaking of immigration, one must look at it both openly and realistically.

There is a pattern of conquest acted out each and every time Islam expands into new territory. As the population grows, so does the pressure to take over, and so do the tactics used towards that end. Lebanon provides a perfect example of the Islamization process.

 

[buttercup]

You hate Jews but have never been to Israel.

Wrong on both counts. That's all you ever do, attack and try to smear people who aren't 100% in agreement with your views on the M.E issue. Don't ever put words in my mouth again. Thank you.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Do you apply that same calculus to every criminal in America and anyone who shares a common trait with them?

Criminals don't pass their criminality down through generations. Muslims do. It's almost impossible to find an OBSERVANT MUSLIM that will even say that he/she believes in racial and sexual equality, religious freedom and democratic government. Every single one of them will insist that infidels (every non-Muslim) abide by the rules set forth in the Koran.

 

[AZrailwhale]

If that is true, why do we have good relations with lots of Muslim countries? I wasn't aware that our first amendment did not also cover social norms and governmental requirements of other nations based on their religion was any of our business as long as they followed our laws.

The only Muslim countries we have good relations with are the ones we are bribing with large amounts of foreign aid. We supposedly have good relations with Saudi Arabia; they spend hundreds of billions every year establishing and subsidizing Wahabist Mosques that teach Islamic superiority. Name one Muslim ruled country that allows free elections and religious and sexual freedom.

 

[Unkotare]

Criminals don't pass their criminality down through generations. ...

Yes they do.

 

[AZrailwhale]

The 600-pound gorilla in the room is, everyone here recognizes that Islam needs to be reformed from it's history of advocating pedophilia and converting with the sword and jihad against any perceived adversary of Islam.

But as I have said, Mohammad is their religion. They, therefore, cannot rewrite history and turn him into something he was not.

That is the issue.

As for Christians, Christ is their example.

As for Jews, there is not one single person they look up to. In fact, they concede that their revered Patriarchs had flaws, such as Moses and King David who both sinned against God severely and death with severely.

This is what is needed for reform within a religion, and that is, showing that their revered Patriarchs were not perfect.

Of course, the Christian claims that only Christ was perfect, for which I am satisfied.

Only God is perfect.

With no central authority, Islam can never undergo a reformation. Every self-professed Imam can interpret the Koran as he pleases to justify any actions he desires, and no other Imam can gainsay him because he has as much authority as they do.

 

[AZrailwhale]

You provide no evidence of your thread assumption. Crime has gone down in America since the more democratic leadership and the opening of job opportunities for all. This is the common ignorant assumption thread. Grow up and learn.

What the data says about crime in the U.S.

Federal statistics show dramatic declines in U.S. violent and property crime rates since the early 1990s.

www.pewresearch.org

The REPORTING of crime has gone down. Crime has gone up. Look at D.C. it had very low reported crime rates, but the citizens say crime has gone down since Trump put National Guard troops on the streets.

 

[Lisa558]

There is a pattern of conquest acted out each and every time Islam expands into new territory. As the population grows, so does the pressure to take over, and so do the tactics used towards that end. Lebanon provides a perfect example of the Islamization process.

Just wait until the idiot leftists in NYC elect the antisemitic Islamist Communist. Next thing you know there will be a mosque built as close to Ground Zero as possible.

 

[The Duke]

What is fascist is assuming all Muslims are radicalized.

Islam is a World Domination plan masquerading as a religion, so it's all bad
and antithetical to Western Civilization and civilization in general.

 

[Unkotare]

...It's almost impossible to find an OBSERVANT MUSLIM that will even say that he/she believes in racial and sexual equality, religious freedom and democratic government. ....

Wrong. That is your bigotry talking.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

The only Muslim countries we have good relations with are the ones we are bribing with large amounts of foreign aid. We supposedly have good relations with Saudi Arabia; they spend hundreds of billions every year establishing and subsidizing Wahabist Mosques that teach Islamic superiority. Name one Muslim ruled country that allows free elections and religious and sexual freedom.

We shouldn't be subsidizing a culture that is hell-bent in our destruction