Do you stand with Israel or Palestine?

[jillian]

My point is has nothing to do with this...it has to do whether there was ever actually a country named Palestine and where they actually came from. They have no right to any of the land that Israel has now. Besides, why would they give them land when it all belongs to Israel since 1967? Should the US give back the land we stole from the Indians? I'm sure they would appreciate it! Israel didn't steal their land, they fought for it and WON! It's THEIRS!

There's also stamps that say "Palestine"...so what?

A Brief History of Palestine
1895 - 1917:
=========

1895:
The total population of Palestine was 500,000 of whom 47,000 were Jews who owned 0.5% of the land.

1896:
Following the appearance of anti-Semitism in Europe, Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism tried to find a political solution for the problem in his book, 'The Jewish State'. He advocated the creation of a Jewish state in Argentina or Palestine.

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the Temple spontaneously built itself?

your professed "facts" leave out a lot of real history. you should really educate yourself on this issue.

 

[Ropey]

the Temple spontaneously built itself?

your professed "facts" leave out a lot of real history. you should really educate yourself on this issue.

That would mean changing his stance.

It's called lying by omission.

 

[jillian]

the Temple spontaneously built itself?

your professed "facts" leave out a lot of real history. you should really educate yourself on this issue.

That would mean changing his stance.

It's called lying by omission.

i know...

but you know, he wants to be "fair-minded".

i suspect he should get to factually accurate before he tries to pretend to be fair.

 

[P F Tinmore]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P-73qtkohY&feature=fvwrel]YouTube - ‪Palestinian Christians locked out of Jerusalem‬‏[/ame]

 

[Ropey]

^^ Christians being SLAUGHTERED by MUSLIMS.

Back on track P F.

 

[P F Tinmore]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8npJDpgtlA]YouTube - ‪Zionist Jews love Palestinian Christians and Muslims.‬‏[/ame]

 

[Caroljo]

YouTube - ‪Zionist Jews love Palestinian Christians and Muslims.‬‏

FAIL! I see no proof this was Israeli war crimes. Most likely palestinian war crimes...nice propaganda tho...

 

[Sunni Man]

FAIL! I see no proof this was Israeli war crimes. Most likely palestinian war crimes...nice propaganda tho...

You are one sick bastard

 

[P F Tinmore]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TBfPa7kFH8]YouTube - ‪Palestinian Christians suffer racism‬‏[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx153bakIdQ&feature=related]YouTube - ‪Palestinian Christian girl abused at Ben Gurion Airport‬‏[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGjaQ2yNX7U]YouTube - ‪Where is my Jerusalem.wmv‬‏[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDhr7wiZcsg&feature=related]YouTube - ‪Palestine before AL NAKBA (1948) -[/ame]

 

[Ropey]

The Western culture can not really understand the kind of mindset that allows people to place their young in the harms way and enfolded in the arms of their fighters in order to use them as media hype.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqdSbf-eR4Q&feature=related]YouTube - ‪Palestinian Children Brainwashed into Killing‬‏[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FvXefcvXCM]YouTube - ‪Palestinian child becomes Jihad fighter in Hamas clip‬‏[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPb1bF-s4M&feature=related]YouTube - ‪11-year-old Palestinians: Martyrdom better than this world‬‏[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEcaI7zQG3E&feature=related]YouTube - ‪Palestinian TV: Inciting Children To "Commit a Massacre"‬‏[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M529qurtDY0&feature=related]YouTube - ‪Teaching Hatred to Palestinian Children‬‏[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi-c6lbFGC4&feature=related]YouTube - ‪Hamas Mickey Mouse Teaches Terror to Kids‬‏[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw2EisVqKZ4&feature=related]YouTube - ‪Muslim Sesame Street I: do the "Death to America" thing‬‏[/ame]

 

[eots]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJuwwwyKXjs]YouTube - ‪Israeli Nazi Eugenic Experiments on Jewish children 1/5‬‏[/ame]

 

[Ropey]

^^ That's on the same page as this eots:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNde6Qf1zTs&feature=related]YouTube - ‪Israel is a Nazi Enterprise/Experiment 2/5‬‏[/ame]



It's called "Truth interspersed with lies".

Ever there have been those among us from the days of the golden lamb.

 

[eots]

The.Ringworm.Children

 

[Godboy]

YouTube - ‪Israeli Nazi Eugenic Experiments on Jewish children 1/5‬‏

There are few certanties in life, but when eots believes in something, you know its not true.

 

[Sallow]

My point is has nothing to do with this...it has to do whether there was ever actually a country named Palestine and where they actually came from. They have no right to any of the land that Israel has now. Besides, why would they give them land when it all belongs to Israel since 1967? Should the US give back the land we stole from the Indians? I'm sure they would appreciate it! Israel didn't steal their land, they fought for it and WON! It's THEIRS!

There's also stamps that say "Palestine"...so what?

A Brief History of Palestine
1895 - 1917:
=========

1895:
The total population of Palestine was 500,000 of whom 47,000 were Jews who owned 0.5% of the land.

1896:
Following the appearance of anti-Semitism in Europe, Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism tried to find a political solution for the problem in his book, 'The Jewish State'. He advocated the creation of a Jewish state in Argentina or Palestine.

1897:
The first Zionist Congress was held in Switzerland, which issued the Basle Programme on the colonization of Palestine and the establishment of the World Zionist Organization (WZO).

1904:
The Fourth Zionist Congress decided to establish a national home for Jews in Argentina.

1906:
The Zionist congress decided the Jewish homeland should be Palestine.

1914:
With the outbreak of World War I, Britain promised the independence of Arab lands under Ottoman rule, including Palestine, in return for Arab support against Turkey which had entered the war on the side of Germany.

1916:
Britain and France signed the Sykes-Picot Agreement, which divided the Arab region into zones of influence. Lebanon and Syria were assigned to France, Jordan and Iraq to Britain and Palestine was to be internationalized.

1917:
Lord Balfour, the British Foreign Secretary sent a letter to the Zionist leader Lord Rothschild which later became known as "The Balfour declaration". He stated that Britain would use its best endeavors to facilitate the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people. At that time the population of Palestine was 700,000 of which 574,000 were Muslims, 74,000 were Christian, and 56,000 were Jews.

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1919 - 1967
=========

1919:
The Palestinians convened their first National Conference and expressed their opposition to the Balfour Declaration.

1920:
The San Remo Conference granted Britain a mandate over Palestine and two years later Palestine was effectively under British administration, and Sir Herbert Samuel, a declared Zionist, was sent as Britain's first High Commissioner to Palestine.

1922:
The Council of the League of Nations issued a Mandate for Palestine. The Mandate was in favor of the establishment for the Jewish people a homeland in Palestine.

1936:
The Palestinians held a six-month General Strike to protest against the confiscation of land and Jewish immigration.

1939:
The British government published a new White Paper restricting Jewish immigration and offering independence for Palestine within ten years. This was rejected by the Zionists, who then organized terrorist groups and launched a bloody campaign against the British and the Palestinians. The aim was to drive them both out of Palestine and to pave the way for the establishment of the Zionist state. A Brief History of Palestine « FiLiSTiN – Palestine –

Where's the link? Probably some pro-palestinian propaganda site? This proves nothing...

You kiddin?

Really?

That's basically how it went down. Israel was started by terrorists.

 

[alexa]

A Brief History of Palestine
1895 - 1917:
=========

1895:
The total population of Palestine was 500,000 of whom 47,000 were Jews who owned 0.5% of the land.

1896:
Following the appearance of anti-Semitism in Europe, Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism tried to find a political solution for the problem in his book, 'The Jewish State'. He advocated the creation of a Jewish state in Argentina or Palestine.

1897:
The first Zionist Congress was held in Switzerland, which issued the Basle Programme on the colonization of Palestine and the establishment of the World Zionist Organization (WZO).

1904:
The Fourth Zionist Congress decided to establish a national home for Jews in Argentina.

1906:
The Zionist congress decided the Jewish homeland should be Palestine.

1914:
With the outbreak of World War I, Britain promised the independence of Arab lands under Ottoman rule, including Palestine, in return for Arab support against Turkey which had entered the war on the side of Germany.

1916:
Britain and France signed the Sykes-Picot Agreement, which divided the Arab region into zones of influence. Lebanon and Syria were assigned to France, Jordan and Iraq to Britain and Palestine was to be internationalized.

1917:
Lord Balfour, the British Foreign Secretary sent a letter to the Zionist leader Lord Rothschild which later became known as "The Balfour declaration". He stated that Britain would use its best endeavors to facilitate the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people. At that time the population of Palestine was 700,000 of which 574,000 were Muslims, 74,000 were Christian, and 56,000 were Jews.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

1919 - 1967
=========

1919:
The Palestinians convened their first National Conference and expressed their opposition to the Balfour Declaration.

1920:
The San Remo Conference granted Britain a mandate over Palestine and two years later Palestine was effectively under British administration, and Sir Herbert Samuel, a declared Zionist, was sent as Britain's first High Commissioner to Palestine.

1922:
The Council of the League of Nations issued a Mandate for Palestine. The Mandate was in favor of the establishment for the Jewish people a homeland in Palestine.

1936:
The Palestinians held a six-month General Strike to protest against the confiscation of land and Jewish immigration.

1939:
The British government published a new White Paper restricting Jewish immigration and offering independence for Palestine within ten years. This was rejected by the Zionists, who then organized terrorist groups and launched a bloody campaign against the British and the Palestinians. The aim was to drive them both out of Palestine and to pave the way for the establishment of the Zionist state. A Brief History of Palestine « FiLiSTiN – Palestine –

Where's the link? Probably some pro-palestinian propaganda site? This proves nothing...

You kiddin?

Really?

That's basically how it went down. Israel was started by terrorists.

I trust you are unaware of the lehi irgen and stern gangs and possibly much of the history.

This site I have never found to be criticised by pro Israelis

Nov 2, 1917 British issued the Balfour Declaration, viewed by Jews and Arabs as promising a “National Home” for the Jews in Palestine.
1936-1939 Arab Revolt led by Haj Amin Al-Husseini. Over 5,000 Arabs were killed according to some sources, mostly by British. Several hundred Jews were killed by Arabs. Husseini fled to Iraq and then to Nazi Germany.
May 15, 1948 Israel War of Independence (1948 War). Declaration of Israel as the Jewish State; British leave Palestine; Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia declared war on Israel. Egyptian, Syrian and Jordanian invasion began. See 1948 Israel War of Independence (1948 Arab-Israeli war) Timeline (Chronology) and Israel War of Independence

Middle East Israel - Palestinian Conflict TimeLine

Note the same problem as the arab biased one. It has left out all the Jewish terrorism, though I believe that if you look into that site well enough you will find most of the story - because I have before.

Now look at their in a nutshell

History's legacy created divisive issues between Palestinians and Israelis. Judea, home of the Jews in ancient times, was conquered by the Romans and renamed Palestine. Palestine was later conquered and inhabited by Arabs for over a thousand years. The Zionist movement arose to restore the Jews to Israel, largely ignoring the existing Arab population. Following the Balfour Declaration in 1917, Palestine was granted to Britain as a League of Nations mandate to build a national home for the Jewish people. The Arabs resented the Jews coming in to take their land. Led by Grand Mufti Hajj Amin El Husseini, they rioted repeatedly and later revolted, creating a history of enmity between Jews and Arabs in Palestine. Britain stopped Jewish immigration to Palestine. Following the Holocaust, in which 6 million Jews were killed by the Nazis, pressure on Britain increased to allow Jewish immigration to Palestine. In 1947, the UN partitioned the land into Arab and Jewish states. The Arabs did not accept the partition and war broke out. The Jews won a decisive victory, expanded their state and created several hundred thousand Palestinian refugees. The Arab states refused to recognize Israel or make peace with it. Wars broke out in 1956, 1967, 1973 and 1982, and there were many terror raids and Israeli reprisals. Each side believes different versions of the same history. Each side views the conflict as wholly the fault of the other and expects an apology. More about Israel and Palestine History Zionism

The Israeli-Palestinian Conflict - Issues in a Nutshell

again, although some objectivity, Jewish terrorism and it's role in the creation of Israel is left out.

I'd have to think the extent to which Israel was created by terrorism but it certainly played a major part. The British left because they found both the Arabs and Zionists ungovernable. A US/British team prior to the UN vote, recommended they not have two states as the situation at the time was that there would just be constant fighting. The recommended that no states be given until problems were resolved or it would just become a never ending battle. They were right. (You will find that if you look enough at the link above).

Anyway do searches for the Lehi, Irgin and Stern and you will find out.

 

[Sallow]

You kiddin?

Really?

That's basically how it went down. Israel was started by terrorists.

I trust you are unaware of the lehi irgen and stern gangs and possibly much of the history.

Exactly why did you pick my post to respond to? Seems you didn't read it very well.