Do you notice how gun nuts never talk about any limits to gun ownership?

[Dale Smith]

Are they cool with the prospect of people open carrying fully automatic wherever they go? After all, it’s the second amendment! Why is this not a thing?! Surely at GOP conventions those tough republican politicians would feel safe with knowing any fucker carrying a weapon around them is allowed to. Republicans’ idea of limiting gun violence is more guns after all. More guns the better!

If they do draw the line at these scenarios, then don’t they see how ridiculous it is to say any from of gun control is unconstitutional? Who are republicans to arbitrarily decide what level of gun laws are acceptable but democrats can’t? Hell, even their St. Scalia said gun control measures were constitutional.

Do you notice how kids have freedom of speech? You may pretend they don’t because what they choose to say can be punished by an adult in charge, but adults can be punished for what they say as well by adults in charge. After all, you can lose your job if you find yourself catcalling that new hot intern everyday.

All that matters when it comes to the first amendment and kids is that they can’t be charged with a crime for their speech. Now all this being said, are toddlers being denied their bill of rights by not being able to carry a gun?

Oh really?

The problem with gun control is Socialists always take it too far.......just like they're taking abortion too far.

I advocate "Common Sense Gun Regulations" and the State of Colorado is very near to that point. It only has one more to go to reach that and that should happen some time this year. Does that make me a socialists? Does that make me a Communist? Am I advocating that we come and confiscate all your guns?

Well I might advocate confiscating all your guns if you become a liability and direct safety to the public. And then, only your guns, not anyone elses. That is the last piece of law that will go into affect this year. Do the guns laws here keep me from walking in and purchasing a gun in about 15 minutes if I want one? Does it limit me to buying 500 rounds of ammo at a time once a week? Do I need to have special licenses and regulations to own, possess, transport, etc. the guns? Am I required to Register myself for anything other than weapons on the 1934 Firearms Act? The answer is No to all of these. I can have the gun or my choice to protect my home, I can have the gun of my choice for hunting, I can ...... That list goes on and on. You keep telling me that I should feel threatened. Funny, I don't feel threatened. Well, I do feel a little threatened by you so I guess I need to stay armed just in case. Never know when some people with some strange ideas may feel the need to do something really stupid.

Quote: "Well, I do feel a little threatened by you..."​

Daryl, mudwhistle happens to support the US Constitution and is the best of good American men. He is also a gifted defender of Constitutional rights, and he will not allow experimentalists in the DNC destroy the very realistic world we live in. You'll never out-think Mr. mudwhistle, nor realize what a debate truly is if you keep up irrational feelings that lack merit of any kind. Toodles.

I can tell I won this round. I hit quite a sore spot. Does it make you want to field strip your weapons? Doesn't do a thing for me.

You havent won diddly squat and you understand/comprehend even less.

 

[sakinago]

Are they cool with the prospect of people open carrying fully automatic wherever they go? After all, it’s the second amendment! Why is this not a thing?! Surely at GOP conventions those tough republican politicians would feel safe with knowing any fucker carrying a weapon around them is allowed to. Republicans’ idea of limiting gun violence is more guns after all. More guns the better!

If they do draw the line at these scenarios, then don’t they see how ridiculous it is to say any from of gun control is unconstitutional? Who are republicans to arbitrarily decide what level of gun laws are acceptable but democrats can’t? Hell, even their St. Scalia said gun control measures were constitutional.

Do you notice how kids have freedom of speech? You may pretend they don’t because what they choose to say can be punished by an adult in charge, but adults can be punished for what they say as well by adults in charge. After all, you can lose your job if you find yourself catcalling that new hot intern everyday.

All that matters when it comes to the first amendment and kids is that they can’t be charged with a crime for their speech. Now all this being said, are toddlers being denied their bill of rights by not being able to carry a gun?

This is discussed all the time, just not in your echo chamber. Btw this sword cuts both ways, gun ownership has been rising and gun laws on things like ARs have been reduced, yet gun crime drops. The Swiss are issued full autos and can walk around where they please with it on their shoulder, yet they are one of the safest countries on the planet. Those in your echo chamber have no response to this, which is why you never hear about it. You’re bringing up a topic that has been flushed out thousands of times on this message board, welcome to the party, everyone already left, but there might be some cold pizza left for you.

The Swiss do NOT allow full autos to be taken home. They only allow semi auto and bolt action to be signed out at the time of separation. And then only if you do the right paperwork. What is happening today, more and more are electing not to apply to take those weapons home with them. But there are abosutely NO full auto weapons allowed in a Civilians hands without some really hairy paperwork and background checks as well as Registrations.

Recent legislation that they were basically forced into by the EU. 2010 I believe it was. It was still the safest country then, nothing changed after. So there goes that argument.

You are talking about the Schengen Agreement signed in 2008. But it actually goes back to 1999 under the Amsterdam Treaty that Switzerland is a signatory. But all of these only have to do with Border Crossings, not gun control.

What you are leaving out is that the first 3 months (the only compulsory time period) all weapons trained on and used in the Swiss Military are all semi auto. No full auto or 3 shot burst weapons are allowed. These are the weapons that the separating Swiss that can qualify can take home AFTER they go through the regulation and background check procedure. These days, most don't bother. The number of guns in the Swiss Homes have been decreasing each year. It's been like this for decades. One of the reasons that gun violence has gone down in Switzerland is that the gun does not have the cult status that it does have in the US.

What you call “gun cult status”, which is just enjoying the sport of shooting, is still alive and well for the Swiss. It’s especially prevalent in the countryside. Sure less prevelant and declining in the cities, which is natural. But for many Swiss, shooting is more of a regular hobby than it is for probably most gun owners in america. Saying there’s no “gun cult”, whatever that is, is just an incorrect mischaracterization, and a silly argument even if there was some truth to it.

Gun crime has been declining worldwide. It’s been declining for the US as well, despite ownership and gun purchases rising. The trick is to look for the correlation BEFORE and AFTER gun control implementation. To which the correlation, if anything, points in the opposite direction. Switzerland was still essientially the safest place on the planet back when they were all issued full auto sigs.

The 2nd amendment is the decentralization of force. Governments, who are consistently the largest perpetrators of murder throughout human history (not to forget the only and consistent vessels of mass oppression), have a much harder time doing that when they do not have a monopoly of force. Things might seem fine and dandy now, but that’s a naive, short term view to hold.

 

[whitehall]

There are limits to gun ownership and everyone acknowledges it except perhaps the angry incoherent left. It should be noted that every mass shooting in modern history was perpetrated by an angry left winger.

 

[sakinago]

Are they cool with the prospect of people open carrying fully automatic wherever they go? After all, it’s the second amendment! Why is this not a thing?! Surely at GOP conventions those tough republican politicians would feel safe with knowing any fucker carrying a weapon around them is allowed to. Republicans’ idea of limiting gun violence is more guns after all. More guns the better!

If they do draw the line at these scenarios, then don’t they see how ridiculous it is to say any from of gun control is unconstitutional? Who are republicans to arbitrarily decide what level of gun laws are acceptable but democrats can’t? Hell, even their St. Scalia said gun control measures were constitutional.

Do you notice how kids have freedom of speech? You may pretend they don’t because what they choose to say can be punished by an adult in charge, but adults can be punished for what they say as well by adults in charge. After all, you can lose your job if you find yourself catcalling that new hot intern everyday.

All that matters when it comes to the first amendment and kids is that they can’t be charged with a crime for their speech. Now all this being said, are toddlers being denied their bill of rights by not being able to carry a gun?

This is discussed all the time, just not in your echo chamber. Btw this sword cuts both ways, gun ownership has been rising and gun laws on things like ARs have been reduced, yet gun crime drops. The Swiss are issued full autos and can walk around where they please with it on their shoulder, yet they are one of the safest countries on the planet. Those in your echo chamber have no response to this, which is why you never hear about it. You’re bringing up a topic that has been flushed out thousands of times on this message board, welcome to the party, everyone already left, but there might be some cold pizza left for you.

The Swiss do NOT allow full autos to be taken home. They only allow semi auto and bolt action to be signed out at the time of separation. And then only if you do the right paperwork. What is happening today, more and more are electing not to apply to take those weapons home with them. But there are abosutely NO full auto weapons allowed in a Civilians hands without some really hairy paperwork and background checks as well as Registrations.

Recent legislation that they were basically forced into by the EU. 2010 I believe it was. It was still the safest country then, nothing changed after. So there goes that argument.

You are talking about the Schengen Agreement signed in 2008. But it actually goes back to 1999 under the Amsterdam Treaty that Switzerland is a signatory. But all of these only have to do with Border Crossings, not gun control.

What you are leaving out is that the first 3 months (the only compulsory time period) all weapons trained on and used in the Swiss Military are all semi auto. No full auto or 3 shot burst weapons are allowed. These are the weapons that the separating Swiss that can qualify can take home AFTER they go through the regulation and background check procedure. These days, most don't bother. The number of guns in the Swiss Homes have been decreasing each year. It's been like this for decades. One of the reasons that gun violence has gone down in Switzerland is that the gun does not have the cult status that it does have in the US.

And idk if you’ve ever been to Europe, but being able to travel across borders is pretty damn important for a country completely surrounded by EU countries. And I believe the main kicker for them was restrictions on banking that the EU threatened, not just the boarder. I’m going off of memory here, but I’m pretty sure that was also a big part of it

 

[pismoe]

Are they cool with the prospect of people open carrying fully automatic wherever they go? After all, it’s the second amendment! Why is this not a thing?! Surely at GOP conventions those tough republican politicians would feel safe with knowing any fucker carrying a weapon around them is allowed to. Republicans’ idea of limiting gun violence is more guns after all. More guns the better!

If they do draw the line at these scenarios, then don’t they see how ridiculous it is to say any from of gun control is unconstitutional? Who are republicans to arbitrarily decide what level of gun laws are acceptable but democrats can’t? Hell, even their St. Scalia said gun control measures were constitutional.

Do you notice how kids have freedom of speech? You may pretend they don’t because what they choose to say can be punished by an adult in charge, but adults can be punished for what they say as well by adults in charge. After all, you can lose your job if you find yourself catcalling that new hot intern everyday.

All that matters when it comes to the first amendment and kids is that they can’t be charged with a crime for their speech. Now all this being said, are toddlers being denied their bill of rights by not being able to carry a gun?

This is discussed all the time, just not in your echo chamber. Btw this sword cuts both ways, gun ownership has been rising and gun laws on things like ARs have been reduced, yet gun crime drops. The Swiss are issued full autos and can walk around where they please with it on their shoulder, yet they are one of the safest countries on the planet. Those in your echo chamber have no response to this, which is why you never hear about it. You’re bringing up a topic that has been flushed out thousands of times on this message board, welcome to the party, everyone already left, but there might be some cold pizza left for you.

The Swiss do NOT allow full autos to be taken home. They only allow semi auto and bolt action to be signed out at the time of separation. And then only if you do the right paperwork. What is happening today, more and more are electing not to apply to take those weapons home with them. But there are abosutely NO full auto weapons allowed in a Civilians hands without some really hairy paperwork and background checks as well as Registrations.

Recent legislation that they were basically forced into by the EU. 2010 I believe it was. It was still the safest country then, nothing changed after. So there goes that argument.

You are talking about the Schengen Agreement signed in 2008. But it actually goes back to 1999 under the Amsterdam Treaty that Switzerland is a signatory. But all of these only have to do with Border Crossings, not gun control.

What you are leaving out is that the first 3 months (the only compulsory time period) all weapons trained on and used in the Swiss Military are all semi auto. No full auto or 3 shot burst weapons are allowed. These are the weapons that the separating Swiss that can qualify can take home AFTER they go through the regulation and background check procedure. These days, most don't bother. The number of guns in the Swiss Homes have been decreasing each year. It's been like this for decades. One of the reasons that gun violence has gone down in Switzerland is that the gun does not have the cult status that it does have in the US.

What you call “gun cult status”, which is just enjoying the sport of shooting, is still alive and well for the Swiss. It’s especially prevalent in the countryside. Sure less prevelant and declining in the cities, which is natural. But for many Swiss, shooting is more of a regular hobby than it is for probably most gun owners in america. Saying there’s no “gun cult”, whatever that is, is just an incorrect mischaracterization, and a silly argument even if there was some truth to it.

Gun crime has been declining worldwide. It’s been declining for the US as well, despite ownership and gun purchases rising. The trick is to look for the correlation BEFORE and AFTER gun control implementation. To which the correlation, if anything, points in the opposite direction. Switzerland was still essientially the safest place on the planet back when they were all issued full auto sigs.

The 2nd amendment is the decentralization of force. Governments, who are consistently the largest perpetrators of murder throughout human history (not to forget the only and consistent vessels of mass oppression), have a much harder time doing that when they do not have a monopoly of force. Things might seem fine and dandy now, but that’s a naive, short term view to hold.

-------------------------------- thats what i tell people . Fine and dandy today but who knows about tomorrow . I think that JEW's in Germany thought that they were full German up until the hammer fell and Jews started to be murdered because they were also Jews .

 

[2aguy]

Are they cool with the prospect of people open carrying fully automatic wherever they go? After all, it’s the second amendment! Why is this not a thing?! Surely at GOP conventions those tough republican politicians would feel safe with knowing any fucker carrying a weapon around them is allowed to. Republicans’ idea of limiting gun violence is more guns after all. More guns the better!

If they do draw the line at these scenarios, then don’t they see how ridiculous it is to say any from of gun control is unconstitutional? Who are republicans to arbitrarily decide what level of gun laws are acceptable but democrats can’t? Hell, even their St. Scalia said gun control measures were constitutional.

Do you notice how kids have freedom of speech? You may pretend they don’t because what they choose to say can be punished by an adult in charge, but adults can be punished for what they say as well by adults in charge. After all, you can lose your job if you find yourself catcalling that new hot intern everyday.

All that matters when it comes to the first amendment and kids is that they can’t be charged with a crime for their speech. Now all this being said, are toddlers being denied their bill of rights by not being able to carry a gun?

Surely at GOP conventions those tough republican politicians would feel safe with knowing any fucker carrying a weapon around them is allowed to.

Hey...dipstick....you do realize that they allowed people to carry guns at the convention...right? There were even a few left wing loons walking around with souped up AR-15 rifles......and the story stated they were approached by the Secret Service who merely checked their permits and left them alone...with their souped up AR-15 rifles...do you anti-gun doofuses ever do any basic research?

 

[2aguy]

Are they cool with the prospect of people open carrying fully automatic wherever they go? After all, it’s the second amendment! Why is this not a thing?! Surely at GOP conventions those tough republican politicians would feel safe with knowing any fucker carrying a weapon around them is allowed to. Republicans’ idea of limiting gun violence is more guns after all. More guns the better!

If they do draw the line at these scenarios, then don’t they see how ridiculous it is to say any from of gun control is unconstitutional? Who are republicans to arbitrarily decide what level of gun laws are acceptable but democrats can’t? Hell, even their St. Scalia said gun control measures were constitutional.

Do you notice how kids have freedom of speech? You may pretend they don’t because what they choose to say can be punished by an adult in charge, but adults can be punished for what they say as well by adults in charge. After all, you can lose your job if you find yourself catcalling that new hot intern everyday.

All that matters when it comes to the first amendment and kids is that they can’t be charged with a crime for their speech. Now all this being said, are toddlers being denied their bill of rights by not being able to carry a gun?

Hell, even their St. Scalia said gun control measures were constitutional.

What did Scalia actually say about the gun control measures in D.C. v Heller?

--some locations could ban guns

--some of the mentally ill and felons could be barred from owning guns

What did Scalia say about all other guns?

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf




We start therefore with a strong presumption that the Second Amendment right is exercised individually and belongs to all Americans.

Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivolous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment.

We do not interpret constitutional rights that way. Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications, e.g., Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U. S. 844, 849 (1997), and the Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, e.g., Kyllo v. United States, 533 U. S. 27, 35–36 (2001), the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding.

 

[2aguy]

Are they cool with the prospect of people open carrying fully automatic wherever they go? After all, it’s the second amendment! Why is this not a thing?! Surely at GOP conventions those tough republican politicians would feel safe with knowing any fucker carrying a weapon around them is allowed to. Republicans’ idea of limiting gun violence is more guns after all. More guns the better!

If they do draw the line at these scenarios, then don’t they see how ridiculous it is to say any from of gun control is unconstitutional? Who are republicans to arbitrarily decide what level of gun laws are acceptable but democrats can’t? Hell, even their St. Scalia said gun control measures were constitutional.

Do you notice how kids have freedom of speech? You may pretend they don’t because what they choose to say can be punished by an adult in charge, but adults can be punished for what they say as well by adults in charge. After all, you can lose your job if you find yourself catcalling that new hot intern everyday.

All that matters when it comes to the first amendment and kids is that they can’t be charged with a crime for their speech. Now all this being said, are toddlers being denied their bill of rights by not being able to carry a gun?

Do you know what Scalia stated about the AR-15 rifle, by name, and wether it is protected by the 2nd Amendment....?

Wanna guess?


https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/15pdf/15-133_7l48.pdf

That analysis misreads Heller. The question under Heller is not whether citizens have adequate alternatives available for self-defense.

Rather, Heller asks whether the law bans types of firearms commonly used for a lawful purpose—regardless of whether alternatives exist. 554 U. S., at 627–629. And Heller draws a distinction between such firearms and weapons specially adapted to unlawful uses and not in common use, such as sawed-off shotguns. Id., at 624–625.

The City’s ban is thus highly suspect because it broadly prohibits common semiautomatic firearms used for lawful purposes.

Roughly five million Americans own AR-style semiautomatic rifles. See 784 F. 3d, at 415, n. 3. The overwhelming majority of citizens who own and use such rifles do so for lawful purposes, including self-defense and target shooting. See ibid.

Under our precedents, that is all that is needed for citizens to have a right under the Second Amendment to keep such weapons. See McDonald, 561 U. S., at 767–768; Heller, supra, at 628–629.

 

[beautress]

Are they cool with the prospect of people open carrying fully automatic wherever they go? After all, it’s the second amendment! Why is this not a thing?! Surely at GOP conventions those tough republican politicians would feel safe with knowing any fucker carrying a weapon around them is allowed to. Republicans’ idea of limiting gun violence is more guns after all. More guns the better!

If they do draw the line at these scenarios, then don’t they see how ridiculous it is to say any from of gun control is unconstitutional? Who are republicans to arbitrarily decide what level of gun laws are acceptable but democrats can’t? Hell, even their St. Scalia said gun control measures were constitutional.

Do you notice how kids have freedom of speech? You may pretend they don’t because what they choose to say can be punished by an adult in charge, but adults can be punished for what they say as well by adults in charge. After all, you can lose your job if you find yourself catcalling that new hot intern everyday.

All that matters when it comes to the first amendment and kids is that they can’t be charged with a crime for their speech. Now all this being said, are toddlers being denied their bill of rights by not being able to carry a gun?

Oh really?

The problem with gun control is Socialists always take it too far.......just like they're taking abortion too far.

I advocate "Common Sense Gun Regulations" and the State of Colorado is very near to that point. It only has one more to go to reach that and that should happen some time this year. Does that make me a socialists? Does that make me a Communist? Am I advocating that we come and confiscate all your guns?

Well I might advocate confiscating all your guns if you become a liability and direct safety to the public. And then, only your guns, not anyone elses. That is the last piece of law that will go into affect this year. Do the guns laws here keep me from walking in and purchasing a gun in about 15 minutes if I want one? Does it limit me to buying 500 rounds of ammo at a time once a week? Do I need to have special licenses and regulations to own, possess, transport, etc. the guns? Am I required to Register myself for anything other than weapons on the 1934 Firearms Act? The answer is No to all of these. I can have the gun or my choice to protect my home, I can have the gun of my choice for hunting, I can ...... That list goes on and on. You keep telling me that I should feel threatened. Funny, I don't feel threatened. Well, I do feel a little threatened by you so I guess I need to stay armed just in case. Never know when some people with some strange ideas may feel the need to do something really stupid.

Quote: "Well, I do feel a little threatened by you..."​

Daryl, mudwhistle happens to support the US Constitution and is the best of good American men. He is also a gifted defender of Constitutional rights, and he will not allow experimentalists in the DNC destroy the very realistic world we live in. You'll never out-think Mr. mudwhistle, nor realize what a debate truly is if you keep up irrational feelings that lack merit of any kind. Toodles.

I can tell I won this round. I hit quite a sore spot. Does it make you want to field strip your weapons? Doesn't do a thing for me.

Sorry, sir, but you won nothing. I do not own a gun. My mama was from the old school, and in our family, girls were not allowed to own a gun nor serve in the military. It didn't bother me. I have sensitive ears, and guns make too much noise anyways. All the men in my family born in times of war served and brought home a silver star and four purple hearts between them, not to mention a Naval honor. Thankyouverymuch.

 

[2aguy]

Are they cool with the prospect of people open carrying fully automatic wherever they go? After all, it’s the second amendment! Why is this not a thing?! Surely at GOP conventions those tough republican politicians would feel safe with knowing any fucker carrying a weapon around them is allowed to. Republicans’ idea of limiting gun violence is more guns after all. More guns the better!

If they do draw the line at these scenarios, then don’t they see how ridiculous it is to say any from of gun control is unconstitutional? Who are republicans to arbitrarily decide what level of gun laws are acceptable but democrats can’t? Hell, even their St. Scalia said gun control measures were constitutional.

Do you notice how kids have freedom of speech? You may pretend they don’t because what they choose to say can be punished by an adult in charge, but adults can be punished for what they say as well by adults in charge. After all, you can lose your job if you find yourself catcalling that new hot intern everyday.

All that matters when it comes to the first amendment and kids is that they can’t be charged with a crime for their speech. Now all this being said, are toddlers being denied their bill of rights by not being able to carry a gun?

Surely at GOP conventions those tough republican politicians would feel safe with knowing any fucker carrying a weapon around them is allowed to.


You need to do some basic research before you post....

Ohio Leftists with AR-15 Rifles Outside Republican Convention

Two left-wing activists who came to Cleveland to protest against Donald Trump and the Republican National Convention were sporting AR-15 rifles and suppressors (“silencers”) outside the security perimeter Tuesday evening as delegates cast their roll call votes inside the Quicken Loans Arena.
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But few on the street seemed perturbed — and some onlookers were enthusiastic in their approval.

Micah Nazari, 39, of Yellow Springs — the birthplace of the hippie movement in the 1960s — told Breitbart News that he had not had any negative reactions from anyone — save for the Secret Service, who had asked to see his permit for his suppressor.

Nazari also sported an Islamic skullcap and a sidearm. He declined to answer questions about religion, preferring to focus on the topic of the Second Amendment, and his opposition to Trump “and all his fascist policies.”

 

[2aguy]

Are they cool with the prospect of people open carrying fully automatic wherever they go? After all, it’s the second amendment! Why is this not a thing?! Surely at GOP conventions those tough republican politicians would feel safe with knowing any fucker carrying a weapon around them is allowed to. Republicans’ idea of limiting gun violence is more guns after all. More guns the better!

If they do draw the line at these scenarios, then don’t they see how ridiculous it is to say any from of gun control is unconstitutional? Who are republicans to arbitrarily decide what level of gun laws are acceptable but democrats can’t? Hell, even their St. Scalia said gun control measures were constitutional.

Do you notice how kids have freedom of speech? You may pretend they don’t because what they choose to say can be punished by an adult in charge, but adults can be punished for what they say as well by adults in charge. After all, you can lose your job if you find yourself catcalling that new hot intern everyday.

All that matters when it comes to the first amendment and kids is that they can’t be charged with a crime for their speech. Now all this being said, are toddlers being denied their bill of rights by not being able to carry a gun?

Oh really?

The problem with gun control is Socialists always take it too far.......just like they're taking abortion too far.

I advocate "Common Sense Gun Regulations" and the State of Colorado is very near to that point. It only has one more to go to reach that and that should happen some time this year. Does that make me a socialists? Does that make me a Communist? Am I advocating that we come and confiscate all your guns?

Well I might advocate confiscating all your guns if you become a liability and direct safety to the public. And then, only your guns, not anyone elses. That is the last piece of law that will go into affect this year. Do the guns laws here keep me from walking in and purchasing a gun in about 15 minutes if I want one? Does it limit me to buying 500 rounds of ammo at a time once a week? Do I need to have special licenses and regulations to own, possess, transport, etc. the guns? Am I required to Register myself for anything other than weapons on the 1934 Firearms Act? The answer is No to all of these. I can have the gun or my choice to protect my home, I can have the gun of my choice for hunting, I can ...... That list goes on and on. You keep telling me that I should feel threatened. Funny, I don't feel threatened. Well, I do feel a little threatened by you so I guess I need to stay armed just in case. Never know when some people with some strange ideas may feel the need to do something really stupid.

Quote: "Well, I do feel a little threatened by you..."​

Daryl, mudwhistle happens to support the US Constitution and is the best of good American men. He is also a gifted defender of Constitutional rights, and he will not allow experimentalists in the DNC destroy the very realistic world we live in. You'll never out-think Mr. mudwhistle, nor realize what a debate truly is if you keep up irrational feelings that lack merit of any kind. Toodles.

I can tell I won this round. I hit quite a sore spot. Does it make you want to field strip your weapons? Doesn't do a thing for me.

Sorry, sir, but you won nothing. I do not own a gun. My mama was from the old school, and in our family, girls were not allowed to own a gun nor serve in the military. It didn't bother me. I have sensitive ears, and guns make too much noise anyways. All the men in my family born in times of war served and brought home a silver star and four purple hearts between them, not to mention a Naval honor. Thankyouverymuch.

Daryl is....."off"........and has a hard time with his posts......he is an odd bird, and often believes he is winning some contest against the people who educate him on the 2nd Amendment issues....

 

[Crixus]

Are they cool with the prospect of people open carrying fully automatic wherever they go? After all, it’s the second amendment! Why is this not a thing?! Surely at GOP conventions those tough republican politicians would feel safe with knowing any fucker carrying a weapon around them is allowed to. Republicans’ idea of limiting gun violence is more guns after all. More guns the better!

If they do draw the line at these scenarios, then don’t they see how ridiculous it is to say any from of gun control is unconstitutional? Who are republicans to arbitrarily decide what level of gun laws are acceptable but democrats can’t? Hell, even their St. Scalia said gun control measures were constitutional.

Do you notice how kids have freedom of speech? You may pretend they don’t because what they choose to say can be punished by an adult in charge, but adults can be punished for what they say as well by adults in charge. After all, you can lose your job if you find yourself catcalling that new hot intern everyday.

All that matters when it comes to the first amendment and kids is that they can’t be charged with a crime for their speech. Now all this being said, are toddlers being denied their bill of rights by not being able to carry a gun?

Stupidest post of the year. Basically a silly cry for attention. No facts to back any of it. So I ask, why is this post not in the rubber room?

 

[flacaltenn]

Are they cool with the prospect of people open carrying fully automatic wherever they go? After all, it’s the second amendment! Why is this not a thing?! Surely at GOP conventions those tough republican politicians would feel safe with knowing any fucker carrying a weapon around them is allowed to. Republicans’ idea of limiting gun violence is more guns after all. More guns the better!

If they do draw the line at these scenarios, then don’t they see how ridiculous it is to say any from of gun control is unconstitutional? Who are republicans to arbitrarily decide what level of gun laws are acceptable but democrats can’t? Hell, even their St. Scalia said gun control measures were constitutional.

Do you notice how kids have freedom of speech? You may pretend they don’t because what they choose to say can be punished by an adult in charge, but adults can be punished for what they say as well by adults in charge. After all, you can lose your job if you find yourself catcalling that new hot intern everyday.

All that matters when it comes to the first amendment and kids is that they can’t be charged with a crime for their speech. Now all this being said, are toddlers being denied their bill of rights by not being able to carry a gun?

The left can't be trusted on MOST Bill o'Rights issues because they demagogue them and offer up mutated views of WHY they rest in a very special place in the Constitution.. The people didn't trust govt back at the Founding. They were pretty smart. Needed the IMPORTANT rights spelled out even tho the REST of document was totally a limitation of Federal duties and powers.

It's obvious when you listen to them.. Like the day Di Feinstein pointed a rifle at the gallery and called it an "assault weapon"... It's OK to not want to learn about firearms. Nobody is forcing you to learn. But like MOST things Congress tries to take authority on -- it's OBVIOUS that they don't know JACK SHIT about the issue or the details..

It's arrogant to be so ignorant about a topic and have the POWER to control and revise people's rights and liberties.

So AT LEAST -- if you're gonna call for gun regulations, use people who understand what end of the gun gets pointed where... And use folks that have enjoyed the gun sports and have experience with self defense issues as the spokepeople... And don't LIE for the cameras and the press like Bloomberg does on the topic...

It's serious business... Not a lecture from the principal...

 

[flacaltenn]

Here's what I mean...

And then this OP is a good example of how lefties can't FOCUS on any one gripe because they don't know enough about WHY any of Bill of Rights is actually important...

Find better advocates. Don't use HS Students for example to push a gun control agenda...

Maybe y'all should form the NDA -- National Disarmament Assoc -- and hire some PROFESSIONALS to speak for BofRights issues. Because it's clear --- it's just a rugby match for the partisan peanut gallery...

 

[dblack]

Do you notice how gun nuts never talk about any limits to gun ownership?

No.

 

[beautress]

Diane Feinstein...isn't she the congresscritter who Atta-girled Christine Blasey Ford through her crazy maze of lies about Justice Kavanaugh at his hearing?

 

[Vandalshandle]

 

[Crixus]

Diane Feinstein...isn't she the congresscritter who Atta-girled Christine Blasey Ford through her crazy maze of lies about Justice Kavanaugh at his hearing?

Was t there a Chinese spy thing to?

 

[karpenter]

Are they cool with the prospect of people open carrying fully automatic wherever they go? After all, it’s the second amendment! Why is this not a thing?! Surely at GOP conventions those tough republican politicians would feel safe with knowing any fucker carrying a weapon around them is allowed to. Republicans’ idea of limiting gun violence is more guns after all. More guns the better!

One Can Still Dream:

 

[karpenter]

My gun is like The Rifleman carried. Chambered .45-70 and lever action. I can go deeper into guns but my one lever action is good enough.
You never know when a Buffalo jumps through the window...

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