Do You Have A Reliable Source For That!!

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How often do we hear that in here?

We post something from the Washington Times or through Drudge to the AP or from Fox because, well, the truth is -- the LSM won't.

They just won't.

Sure, they'll have it on their website as 'raw feed' from the wire services. Who doesn't? Every two-bit media outlet in the World that subscribes (a PAID service) to the AP, BBC, UPI, the Slimes, Reuters or whatever will have it somewhere on the website.

Sometimes -- The even (gasp!) print it in the viewspaper....... In section F, page 17, right below the article on how to shampoo your Poodle.

But when it comes to TV, nobody on the dim side EVER questions them.

By God, if it was on the Nightly Freaking News, then it's the BY GOD TRUTH and no amount of arguing, cajoling or fact-finding will change thier minds.

You wonder why dims are so wrong so often and so misled all the time.....?

It's their choice. They don't HAVE to get their views/news from the alphabet media and Comedy Central. They CHOOSE to.

So they, in effect, CHOOSE to be uninformed and stupid.

Here's your 'reliable source' dims

He’s Back! NBC Rats Out Brian Williams On 11 Lies…


Just call him the Rocket Man.

Via Inquisitr

A review of NBC anchorman Brian Williams’ journalistic exploits has put a number to his fibs. So far, the tally stands at 11 different occasions he fell short of telling the whole truth, and the investigation isn’t done.

In an interesting twist, it appears that the NBC News staff was aware of Williams’ fibbing — they even pointed out specific incidents for in-house investigators to look deeper into, the New York Times reported.

These include the lie that first unraveled Williams’ position as NBC anchorman and led to his suspension — a 2003 incident in Iraq in which Brian claimed he was in a helicopter damaged by rocket fire.

But now, the public can add these lies to their laundry list: a missile attack on a different helicopter in Iraq in 2006; the story about how he got a piece of the helicopter that crashed during the assassination of Osama bin Laden; and one during his reporting of the conflict between Israel and Lebanon in 2006.

That last lie also centered around a helicopter; Brian apparently told a student-run TV station in Connecticut that rockets passed “just beneath” one he was riding in during the conflict. However, he told a different account in a blog, the Washington Post added.

But the investigation has also turned up a brand-new fib, and this one involved his reports from Tahrir Square during the Arab Spring. By Williams’ account, which he told to Jon Stewart on The Daily Show in February of 2011, he was right in the thick of things. Turns out, he was most likely watching from a balcony overlooking the square.

As Brian’s on-air fabrication went, he was amid the violent clashes between protestors and a pro-government group, riding on horses and camels. He claimed he made eye contact with one of these men on a horse, and then said the man used a whip on protestors.

Keep reading
 
Funny how the article mentions "11 different occasions" ---- yet never details what they are.

Funny in an ironic way because of uh, the thread title....
 
Funny how the article mentions "11 different occasions" ---- yet never details what they are.

Funny in an ironic way because of uh, the thread title....


Yep. Where's the documentation of those "11 lies"?

Is that just sloppy journalism or is it outright lying?

OTOH, its only a blog and opinion rather than fact and many people can't tell the difference.




Then stop dismissing Huffington and Mediamatters as unreliable sources,

for starters.


And if you're going to use the excuse that its a liberal source, be prepared to prove what they report is incorrect. Post that proof from a legit source, not one that has been proven repeatedly to lie or just get it wrong - like Fox, Brietbart, Limbaugh, Drudge.
 
Funny how the article mentions "11 different occasions" ---- yet never details what they are.

Funny in an ironic way because of uh, the thread title....

Any of these sources 'reliable' enough for you, douchebag?

Hint: Learn how to read then learn how to discern



  1. upload_2015-4-26_10-44-50.jpeg
    at least 10 Brian Williams embellishments

    CNNMoney‎ - 19 hours ago
    NBC finds at least 10 Brian Williams embellishments ... The Post reported that the investigation has "turned up 11 instances in which the ... LLC and have been licensed for use to S&P Opco, LLC and CNN.
  2. Reports: NBC finds at least 10 Brian Williams embellishments
    USA TODAY‎ - 15 hours ago
  3. NBC probe finds 10 misstatements by Brian Williams - CNN Video
    CNN.com‎ - 21 hours ago
    More news for cnn 11 instances brian williams
  4. Reports: NBC finds at least 10 Brian Williams embellishments
    www.usatoday.com/story/.../brian-williams...cnn/26367021/
    USA Today
    15 hours ago - An NBC investigation into the reporting of suspended anchor Brian Williams has found at least 10 instance of exaggerations and embellishments, CNNand ... the probe, saying it turned up at least 11 instances of embellishing.
  5. Brian Williams Inquiry Is Said to Expand - NYTimes.com
    www.nytimes.com/.../nbc-inquiry-said-to-find-that-br...
    The New York Times
    2 days ago - An internal inquiry is examining a half-dozen instances in which Mr. Williams is ... Jake Tapper Is Named Host of CNN's 'State of the Union' ... NBC News suspended Brian Williams in February after questions were raised ...
  6. Brian Williams Ratted Out By NBC News Staff — Probe ...
    www.inquisitr.com/.../brian-williams-ratted-out-by-nbc-news-staff-probe...
    20 hours ago - A review of NBC anchorman Brian Williams' journalistic exploits has put ... According to CNN, these 11 instances were discussed at a meeting ...
  7. Inquiry finds more Brian Williams' fabrications - MSN.com
    www.msn.com/en-us/news/.../tt-BBiG7ao?q=brian%20williams...
    MSN
    NBC News finds Brian Williams embellished at least 11 times ... A months-long internal investigation of Brian Williams by NBC News has turned up 11 instances in which the... money.cnn.com/2015/04/25/media/brian-williams-investigation.
  8. Brian Williams Investigation Uncovers More Alleged Lies
    www.huffingtonpost.com/.../brian-williams-investig...
    The Huffington Post
    20 hours ago - The investigation into anchor Brian Williams' alleged lies has reportedly ... an anonymous source with knowledge of the investigation told CNN Money. ... ... had turned up 11 instances in which Williams made embellishments.
  9. Mediagazer
    mediagazer.com/
    So far, NBC News finds Brian Williams embellished at least 11 times — A months-long internal investigation of Brian Williams by NBC News has turned up 11 instances in which the ..... Jake Tapper will anchor CNN's State of the Union.
  10. NBC probe finds 10 misstatements by Brian Williams ...
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    NBC probe finds 10 misstatements by Brian Williams - YouTube
    21 hours ago - Uploaded by CNN
    CNN's Brian Stelter reports that NBC found multiple instances of misstatements by NBC's Brian Williams. ... Ron Villejo Shared on Google+ · 11 hours ago. One misstatement is one thing. Multiple misstatements is quite ...

  11. Brian Williams - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Williams
    Wikipedia
    For other people named Brian Williams, see Brian Williams (disambiguation). .... probe of Williams' reporting had found at least 11 instances where he either ... wall came down' is widely recognized as November 9, 1989," according to CNN.
  12. Reports: NBC finds at least 10 Brian Williams embellishments
    www.ksdk.com/story/news/2015/...brian-williams.../26379273/
    KSDK
    14 hours ago - CNN quoted an unnamed person with knowledge of the internal ... with details of the probe, saying it turned up at least 11 instances of embellishing. ... Allison Williams poses with her father, Brian Williams, at the premiere of ...
  13. dimocraps are douchebags
period
 
How often do we hear that in here?

We post something from the Washington Times or through Drudge to the AP or from Fox because, well, the truth is -- the LSM won't.

They just won't.

Sure, they'll have it on their website as 'raw feed' from the wire services. Who doesn't? Every two-bit media outlet in the World that subscribes (a PAID service) to the AP, BBC, UPI, the Slimes, Reuters or whatever will have it somewhere on the website.

Sometimes -- The even (gasp!) print it in the viewspaper....... In section F, page 17, right below the article on how to shampoo your Poodle.

But when it comes to TV, nobody on the dim side EVER questions them.

By God, if it was on the Nightly Freaking News, then it's the BY GOD TRUTH and no amount of arguing, cajoling or fact-finding will change thier minds.

You wonder why dims are so wrong so often and so misled all the time.....?

It's their choice. They don't HAVE to get their views/news from the alphabet media and Comedy Central. They CHOOSE to.

So they, in effect, CHOOSE to be uninformed and stupid.

Here's your 'reliable source' dims

He’s Back! NBC Rats Out Brian Williams On 11 Lies…


Just call him the Rocket Man.

Via Inquisitr

A review of NBC anchorman Brian Williams’ journalistic exploits has put a number to his fibs. So far, the tally stands at 11 different occasions he fell short of telling the whole truth, and the investigation isn’t done.

In an interesting twist, it appears that the NBC News staff was aware of Williams’ fibbing — they even pointed out specific incidents for in-house investigators to look deeper into, the New York Times reported.

These include the lie that first unraveled Williams’ position as NBC anchorman and led to his suspension — a 2003 incident in Iraq in which Brian claimed he was in a helicopter damaged by rocket fire.

But now, the public can add these lies to their laundry list: a missile attack on a different helicopter in Iraq in 2006; the story about how he got a piece of the helicopter that crashed during the assassination of Osama bin Laden; and one during his reporting of the conflict between Israel and Lebanon in 2006.

That last lie also centered around a helicopter; Brian apparently told a student-run TV station in Connecticut that rockets passed “just beneath” one he was riding in during the conflict. However, he told a different account in a blog, the Washington Post added.

But the investigation has also turned up a brand-new fib, and this one involved his reports from Tahrir Square during the Arab Spring. By Williams’ account, which he told to Jon Stewart on The Daily Show in February of 2011, he was right in the thick of things. Turns out, he was most likely watching from a balcony overlooking the square.

As Brian’s on-air fabrication went, he was amid the violent clashes between protestors and a pro-government group, riding on horses and camels. He claimed he made eye contact with one of these men on a horse, and then said the man used a whip on protestors.

Keep reading
I can't speak for any of the MSNBC and Mediamatters fans on the left...but I am a moderate lefty.

The thing is this.....

You're right to an extent, if I understand your position, that lefties dismiss Fox, Breitbart, Rush, Drudge, and other righty news sources "out of hand"

I have done that too, but I'm resisting the urge to do that.

But what I see as "the problem" isn't what Fox News tells righties, or what MSNBC tells lefties...it what Fox News DOES NOT tell righties, and what MSNBC DOES NOT tell lefties.

These two media sources practice what I call "advocacy pseudo journalism"

If Watergate broke today, and it was Obama who orchestrated a cover up, you would never find a combination of journalists like Woodward and Bernstein...a conservative writer, and a liberal writer...working together for the same news source, to uncover a scandal that would bring down a Presidential administration.

Going forward with this fact, one might ponder the idea that you'd hear the truth if you believed what Fox says about liberals, and what MSNBC says about conservatives. But we're not that lucky, in my opinion.

If you think Fox is telling you "the truth", there isn't much we have to talk about, and if you think they're dismissed by the left, I'd have to agree...but that doesn't mean we on the left are without good reason to do that
 
How often do we hear that in here?

We post something from the Washington Times or through Drudge to the AP or from Fox because, well, the truth is -- the LSM won't.

They just won't.

Sure, they'll have it on their website as 'raw feed' from the wire services. Who doesn't? Every two-bit media outlet in the World that subscribes (a PAID service) to the AP, BBC, UPI, the Slimes, Reuters or whatever will have it somewhere on the website.

Sometimes -- The even (gasp!) print it in the viewspaper....... In section F, page 17, right below the article on how to shampoo your Poodle.

But when it comes to TV, nobody on the dim side EVER questions them.

By God, if it was on the Nightly Freaking News, then it's the BY GOD TRUTH and no amount of arguing, cajoling or fact-finding will change thier minds.

You wonder why dims are so wrong so often and so misled all the time.....?

It's their choice. They don't HAVE to get their views/news from the alphabet media and Comedy Central. They CHOOSE to.

So they, in effect, CHOOSE to be uninformed and stupid.

Here's your 'reliable source' dims

He’s Back! NBC Rats Out Brian Williams On 11 Lies…


Just call him the Rocket Man.

Via Inquisitr

A review of NBC anchorman Brian Williams’ journalistic exploits has put a number to his fibs. So far, the tally stands at 11 different occasions he fell short of telling the whole truth, and the investigation isn’t done.

In an interesting twist, it appears that the NBC News staff was aware of Williams’ fibbing — they even pointed out specific incidents for in-house investigators to look deeper into, the New York Times reported.

These include the lie that first unraveled Williams’ position as NBC anchorman and led to his suspension — a 2003 incident in Iraq in which Brian claimed he was in a helicopter damaged by rocket fire.

But now, the public can add these lies to their laundry list: a missile attack on a different helicopter in Iraq in 2006; the story about how he got a piece of the helicopter that crashed during the assassination of Osama bin Laden; and one during his reporting of the conflict between Israel and Lebanon in 2006.

That last lie also centered around a helicopter; Brian apparently told a student-run TV station in Connecticut that rockets passed “just beneath” one he was riding in during the conflict. However, he told a different account in a blog, the Washington Post added.

But the investigation has also turned up a brand-new fib, and this one involved his reports from Tahrir Square during the Arab Spring. By Williams’ account, which he told to Jon Stewart on The Daily Show in February of 2011, he was right in the thick of things. Turns out, he was most likely watching from a balcony overlooking the square.

As Brian’s on-air fabrication went, he was amid the violent clashes between protestors and a pro-government group, riding on horses and camels. He claimed he made eye contact with one of these men on a horse, and then said the man used a whip on protestors.

Keep reading
I can't speak for any of the MSNBC and Mediamatters fans on the left...but I am a moderate lefty.

The thing is this.....

You're right to an extent, if I understand your position, that lefties dismiss Fox, Breitbart, Rush, Drudge, and other righty news sources "out of hand"

I have done that too, but I'm resisting the urge to do that.

But what I see as "the problem" isn't what Fox News tells righties, or what MSNBC tells lefties...it what Fox News DOES NOT tell righties, and what MSNBC DOES NOT tell lefties.

These two media sources practice what I call "advocacy pseudo journalism"

If Watergate broke today, and it was Obama who orchestrated a cover up, you would never find a combination of journalists like Woodward and Bernstein...a conservative writer, and a liberal writer...working together for the same news source, to uncover a scandal that would bring down a Presidential administration. Fox won't hire journalists that would attempt to uncover a scandal of that proportion, nor would MSNBC in the reverse.

Going forward with this fact, one might ponder the idea that you'd hear the truth if you believed what Fox says about liberals, and what MSNBC says about conservatives. But we're not that lucky, in my opinion.

If you think Fox is telling you "the truth", there isn't much we have to talk about, and if you think they're dismissed by the left, I'd have to agree...but that doesn't mean we on the left are without good reason to do that


I also agree - to some extent. We have allowed our news system to be bought by foreign interests and it no longer serves the US.

Its fact that Fox is truthful in only 18% of their stories. Only a fool would continue to watch them for a source of news. Its very telling that, even knowing that Fox is not "fair and balanced", accurate and honest, many still watch them. Also telling is that, even though we have seen Brietbart, Limbaugh purposely lie, many still believe them.

MSNBC has very right wing journalists and guests who do hard news during the day. The liberal pundits are in the evening and, unlike Fox, they don't pretend to be anything but what they are.

A huge complaint I have with TV news is that they do a very few stories, over and over and over. If you want a more accurate and inclusive view, go to Al Jazeera and BBC.
 
If a news outlet has a track record of putting out bullshit and never retracting it or publishing a correction then it is safe to reject what they say out of hand, especially if they are the only ones running the story. This perfectly describes much of the right-wing infotainment industry. Also a sure clue is if the "story" tells you how to feel about it in the title. If I see a link that includes the words "shocking" "outrageous" "frightening" etc. I automatically put it several notches down on the credibility scale. Again this perfectly describes much of the right-wing infotainment industry.
 
How often do we hear that in here?

We post something from the Washington Times or through Drudge to the AP or from Fox because, well, the truth is -- the LSM won't.

They just won't.

Sure, they'll have it on their website as 'raw feed' from the wire services. Who doesn't? Every two-bit media outlet in the World that subscribes (a PAID service) to the AP, BBC, UPI, the Slimes, Reuters or whatever will have it somewhere on the website.

Sometimes -- The even (gasp!) print it in the viewspaper....... In section F, page 17, right below the article on how to shampoo your Poodle.

But when it comes to TV, nobody on the dim side EVER questions them.

By God, if it was on the Nightly Freaking News, then it's the BY GOD TRUTH and no amount of arguing, cajoling or fact-finding will change thier minds.

You wonder why dims are so wrong so often and so misled all the time.....?

It's their choice. They don't HAVE to get their views/news from the alphabet media and Comedy Central. They CHOOSE to.

So they, in effect, CHOOSE to be uninformed and stupid.

Here's your 'reliable source' dims

He’s Back! NBC Rats Out Brian Williams On 11 Lies…


Just call him the Rocket Man.

Via Inquisitr

A review of NBC anchorman Brian Williams’ journalistic exploits has put a number to his fibs. So far, the tally stands at 11 different occasions he fell short of telling the whole truth, and the investigation isn’t done.

In an interesting twist, it appears that the NBC News staff was aware of Williams’ fibbing — they even pointed out specific incidents for in-house investigators to look deeper into, the New York Times reported.

These include the lie that first unraveled Williams’ position as NBC anchorman and led to his suspension — a 2003 incident in Iraq in which Brian claimed he was in a helicopter damaged by rocket fire.

But now, the public can add these lies to their laundry list: a missile attack on a different helicopter in Iraq in 2006; the story about how he got a piece of the helicopter that crashed during the assassination of Osama bin Laden; and one during his reporting of the conflict between Israel and Lebanon in 2006.

That last lie also centered around a helicopter; Brian apparently told a student-run TV station in Connecticut that rockets passed “just beneath” one he was riding in during the conflict. However, he told a different account in a blog, the Washington Post added.

But the investigation has also turned up a brand-new fib, and this one involved his reports from Tahrir Square during the Arab Spring. By Williams’ account, which he told to Jon Stewart on The Daily Show in February of 2011, he was right in the thick of things. Turns out, he was most likely watching from a balcony overlooking the square.

As Brian’s on-air fabrication went, he was amid the violent clashes between protestors and a pro-government group, riding on horses and camels. He claimed he made eye contact with one of these men on a horse, and then said the man used a whip on protestors.

Keep reading
I can't speak for any of the MSNBC and Mediamatters fans on the left...but I am a moderate lefty.

The thing is this.....

You're right to an extent, if I understand your position, that lefties dismiss Fox, Breitbart, Rush, Drudge, and other righty news sources "out of hand"

I have done that too, but I'm resisting the urge to do that.

But what I see as "the problem" isn't what Fox News tells righties, or what MSNBC tells lefties...it what Fox News DOES NOT tell righties, and what MSNBC DOES NOT tell lefties.

These two media sources practice what I call "advocacy pseudo journalism"

If Watergate broke today, and it was Obama who orchestrated a cover up, you would never find a combination of journalists like Woodward and Bernstein...a conservative writer, and a liberal writer...working together for the same news source, to uncover a scandal that would bring down a Presidential administration. Fox won't hire journalists that would attempt to uncover a scandal of that proportion, nor would MSNBC in the reverse.

Going forward with this fact, one might ponder the idea that you'd hear the truth if you believed what Fox says about liberals, and what MSNBC says about conservatives. But we're not that lucky, in my opinion.

If you think Fox is telling you "the truth", there isn't much we have to talk about, and if you think they're dismissed by the left, I'd have to agree...but that doesn't mean we on the left are without good reason to do that

FNC arose out of the vacuum left by the DISGUSTING FILTH in the Lame Stream Media. Nature AND business abhor a vacuum. Someone will fill it.

The alphabet media is no longer in the business of reporting the News. It just isn't. Hasn't been for decades,

The DISGUSTING FILTH in the LSM LOSES money on their News Gathering enterprises and the Entertainment division is tired of supporting them.

It's just so much easier for them to be entertainment instead of News.

News is expensive, a liability, entertainment is profitable. So even their News programs have gone to entertainment. And the number one demographic for entertainment is the young and unmarried and the stupid and clueless.

Jon Stewart and Bill Maher are nothing more than the DISGUSTING FILTH in the LSM indoctrinating youth while disguised as 'entertainment/comedy'.


The alphabet media copied them (Laugh In, Saturday Night Live, etc) decades ago and gave up on the News entirely.

Then -- The Ideologues moved in and took over.

FNC has CLEAR Ideologues on their Network but FNC insists that they be clearly identified as such.

Is there ANY doubt in your mind that Sean Hannity is a Conservative? Has he ever denied it? No.

Is there ANY doubt that John Stossel is a liberturdian? No. He proudly announces it on his every show.

Geraldo is also proud of his liberalism and so is Juan Williams.

But FNC's Straight, Hard News is about as fair and as balanced as it gets.

Hardened dimocraps won't see that because they herald from watching stations that are SO incredibly dimocraptic that they think FNC is hard core Conservative.

They're not. They're honest. When you tune in to Hannity or Geraldo or Juan Williams or Stossel or -- Whomever -- You know EXACTLY what you're getting.

Brett Baier is about as honest as it gets on the Nightly News. They have a panel every night with at least one liberal that gets a fair chance to explain the liberal POV. EVERY night.

I have watched Charles Krauthammer AND Stephen Hayes just absolutely TORCH GW Bush and many other Conservatives.

You just don't see that very often in the alphabet media. They have become the propaganda arm of the dimocrap party

Most people can see it. dimocraps can't. But, dimocraps are scum

period.
 
How often do we hear that in here?

We post something from the Washington Times or through Drudge to the AP or from Fox because, well, the truth is -- the LSM won't.

They just won't.

Sure, they'll have it on their website as 'raw feed' from the wire services. Who doesn't? Every two-bit media outlet in the World that subscribes (a PAID service) to the AP, BBC, UPI, the Slimes, Reuters or whatever will have it somewhere on the website.

Sometimes -- The even (gasp!) print it in the viewspaper....... In section F, page 17, right below the article on how to shampoo your Poodle.

But when it comes to TV, nobody on the dim side EVER questions them.

By God, if it was on the Nightly Freaking News, then it's the BY GOD TRUTH and no amount of arguing, cajoling or fact-finding will change thier minds.

You wonder why dims are so wrong so often and so misled all the time.....?

It's their choice. They don't HAVE to get their views/news from the alphabet media and Comedy Central. They CHOOSE to.

So they, in effect, CHOOSE to be uninformed and stupid.

Here's your 'reliable source' dims

He’s Back! NBC Rats Out Brian Williams On 11 Lies…


Just call him the Rocket Man.

Via Inquisitr

A review of NBC anchorman Brian Williams’ journalistic exploits has put a number to his fibs. So far, the tally stands at 11 different occasions he fell short of telling the whole truth, and the investigation isn’t done.

In an interesting twist, it appears that the NBC News staff was aware of Williams’ fibbing — they even pointed out specific incidents for in-house investigators to look deeper into, the New York Times reported.

These include the lie that first unraveled Williams’ position as NBC anchorman and led to his suspension — a 2003 incident in Iraq in which Brian claimed he was in a helicopter damaged by rocket fire.

But now, the public can add these lies to their laundry list: a missile attack on a different helicopter in Iraq in 2006; the story about how he got a piece of the helicopter that crashed during the assassination of Osama bin Laden; and one during his reporting of the conflict between Israel and Lebanon in 2006.

That last lie also centered around a helicopter; Brian apparently told a student-run TV station in Connecticut that rockets passed “just beneath” one he was riding in during the conflict. However, he told a different account in a blog, the Washington Post added.

But the investigation has also turned up a brand-new fib, and this one involved his reports from Tahrir Square during the Arab Spring. By Williams’ account, which he told to Jon Stewart on The Daily Show in February of 2011, he was right in the thick of things. Turns out, he was most likely watching from a balcony overlooking the square.

As Brian’s on-air fabrication went, he was amid the violent clashes between protestors and a pro-government group, riding on horses and camels. He claimed he made eye contact with one of these men on a horse, and then said the man used a whip on protestors.

Keep reading
I can't speak for any of the MSNBC and Mediamatters fans on the left...but I am a moderate lefty.

The thing is this.....

You're right to an extent, if I understand your position, that lefties dismiss Fox, Breitbart, Rush, Drudge, and other righty news sources "out of hand"

I have done that too, but I'm resisting the urge to do that.

But what I see as "the problem" isn't what Fox News tells righties, or what MSNBC tells lefties...it what Fox News DOES NOT tell righties, and what MSNBC DOES NOT tell lefties.

These two media sources practice what I call "advocacy pseudo journalism"

If Watergate broke today, and it was Obama who orchestrated a cover up, you would never find a combination of journalists like Woodward and Bernstein...a conservative writer, and a liberal writer...working together for the same news source, to uncover a scandal that would bring down a Presidential administration. Fox won't hire journalists that would attempt to uncover a scandal of that proportion, nor would MSNBC in the reverse.

Going forward with this fact, one might ponder the idea that you'd hear the truth if you believed what Fox says about liberals, and what MSNBC says about conservatives. But we're not that lucky, in my opinion.

If you think Fox is telling you "the truth", there isn't much we have to talk about, and if you think they're dismissed by the left, I'd have to agree...but that doesn't mean we on the left are without good reason to do that

FNC arose out of the vacuum left by the DISGUSTING FILTH in the Lame Stream Media. Nature AND business abhor a vacuum. Someone will fill it.

The alphabet media is no longer in the business of reporting the News. It just isn't. Hasn't been for decades,

The DISGUSTING FILTH in the LSM LOSES money on their News Gathering enterprises and the Entertainment division is tired of supporting them.

It's just so much easier for them to be entertainment instead of News.

News is expensive, a liability, entertainment is profitable. So even their News programs have gone to entertainment. And the number one demographic for entertainment is the young and unmarried and the stupid and clueless.

Jon Stewart and Bill Maher are nothing more than the DISGUSTING FILTH in the LSM indoctrinating youth while disguised as 'entertainment/comedy'.


The alphabet media copied them (Laugh In, Saturday Night Live, etc) decades ago and gave up on the News entirely.

Then -- The Ideologues moved in and took over.

FNC has CLEAR Ideologues on their Network but FNC insists that they be clearly identified as such.

Is there ANY doubt in your mind that Sean Hannity is a Conservative? Has he ever denied it? No.

Is there ANY doubt that John Stossel is a liberturdian? No. He proudly announces it on his every show.

Geraldo is also proud of his liberalism and so is Juan Williams.

But FNC's Straight, Hard News is about as fair and as balanced as it gets.

Hardened dimocraps won't see that because they herald from watching stations that are SO incredibly dimocraptic that they think FNC is hard core Conservative.

They're not. They're honest. When you tune in to Hannity or Geraldo or Juan Williams or Stossel or -- Whomever -- You know EXACTLY what you're getting.

Brett Baier is about as honest as it gets on the Nightly News. They have a panel every night with at least one liberal that gets a fair chance to explain the liberal POV. EVERY night.

I have watched Charles Krauthammer AND Stephen Hayes just absolutely TORCH GW Bush and many other Conservatives.

You just don't see that very often in the alphabet media. They have become the propaganda arm of the dimocrap party

Most people can see it. dimocraps can't. But, dimocraps are scum

period.
You're very angry, and in my experience, angry people don't always do the best thinking.

You're exactly the kind of customer Fox News needs to attract.
 
How often do we hear that in here?

We post something from the Washington Times or through Drudge to the AP or from Fox because, well, the truth is -- the LSM won't.

They just won't.

Sure, they'll have it on their website as 'raw feed' from the wire services. Who doesn't? Every two-bit media outlet in the World that subscribes (a PAID service) to the AP, BBC, UPI, the Slimes, Reuters or whatever will have it somewhere on the website.

Sometimes -- The even (gasp!) print it in the viewspaper....... In section F, page 17, right below the article on how to shampoo your Poodle.

But when it comes to TV, nobody on the dim side EVER questions them.

By God, if it was on the Nightly Freaking News, then it's the BY GOD TRUTH and no amount of arguing, cajoling or fact-finding will change thier minds.

You wonder why dims are so wrong so often and so misled all the time.....?

It's their choice. They don't HAVE to get their views/news from the alphabet media and Comedy Central. They CHOOSE to.

So they, in effect, CHOOSE to be uninformed and stupid.

Here's your 'reliable source' dims

He’s Back! NBC Rats Out Brian Williams On 11 Lies…


Just call him the Rocket Man.

Via Inquisitr

A review of NBC anchorman Brian Williams’ journalistic exploits has put a number to his fibs. So far, the tally stands at 11 different occasions he fell short of telling the whole truth, and the investigation isn’t done.

In an interesting twist, it appears that the NBC News staff was aware of Williams’ fibbing — they even pointed out specific incidents for in-house investigators to look deeper into, the New York Times reported.

These include the lie that first unraveled Williams’ position as NBC anchorman and led to his suspension — a 2003 incident in Iraq in which Brian claimed he was in a helicopter damaged by rocket fire.

But now, the public can add these lies to their laundry list: a missile attack on a different helicopter in Iraq in 2006; the story about how he got a piece of the helicopter that crashed during the assassination of Osama bin Laden; and one during his reporting of the conflict between Israel and Lebanon in 2006.

That last lie also centered around a helicopter; Brian apparently told a student-run TV station in Connecticut that rockets passed “just beneath” one he was riding in during the conflict. However, he told a different account in a blog, the Washington Post added.

But the investigation has also turned up a brand-new fib, and this one involved his reports from Tahrir Square during the Arab Spring. By Williams’ account, which he told to Jon Stewart on The Daily Show in February of 2011, he was right in the thick of things. Turns out, he was most likely watching from a balcony overlooking the square.

As Brian’s on-air fabrication went, he was amid the violent clashes between protestors and a pro-government group, riding on horses and camels. He claimed he made eye contact with one of these men on a horse, and then said the man used a whip on protestors.

Keep reading
I can't speak for any of the MSNBC and Mediamatters fans on the left...but I am a moderate lefty.

The thing is this.....

You're right to an extent, if I understand your position, that lefties dismiss Fox, Breitbart, Rush, Drudge, and other righty news sources "out of hand"

I have done that too, but I'm resisting the urge to do that.

But what I see as "the problem" isn't what Fox News tells righties, or what MSNBC tells lefties...it what Fox News DOES NOT tell righties, and what MSNBC DOES NOT tell lefties.

These two media sources practice what I call "advocacy pseudo journalism"

If Watergate broke today, and it was Obama who orchestrated a cover up, you would never find a combination of journalists like Woodward and Bernstein...a conservative writer, and a liberal writer...working together for the same news source, to uncover a scandal that would bring down a Presidential administration. Fox won't hire journalists that would attempt to uncover a scandal of that proportion, nor would MSNBC in the reverse.

Going forward with this fact, one might ponder the idea that you'd hear the truth if you believed what Fox says about liberals, and what MSNBC says about conservatives. But we're not that lucky, in my opinion.

If you think Fox is telling you "the truth", there isn't much we have to talk about, and if you think they're dismissed by the left, I'd have to agree...but that doesn't mean we on the left are without good reason to do that


I also agree - to some extent. We have allowed our news system to be bought by foreign interests and it no longer serves the US.

Its fact that Fox is truthful in only 18% of their stories. Only a fool would continue to watch them for a source of news. Its very telling that, even knowing that Fox is not "fair and balanced", accurate and honest, many still watch them. Also telling is that, even though we have seen Brietbart, Limbaugh purposely lie, many still believe them.

MSNBC has very right wing journalists and guests who do hard news during the day. The liberal pundits are in the evening and, unlike Fox, they don't pretend to be anything but what they are.

A huge complaint I have with TV news is that they do a very few stories, over and over and over. If you want a more accurate and inclusive view, go to Al Jazeera and BBC.

We have also seen NBC and CBS lie. When you get exposed for forging or splicing news content like CBS did in the 2004 Elections and NBC did during George Zimmerman trials, you are deemed unreliable. When did Fox present forged documents as authentic or when did Fox splice up 911 George Zimmerman tapes so as to NOT tell the who story? You make these broad brush strokes about Fox, Breitbart, and Limbaugh. Where are your cases and incidents?

If any of ABC, NBC, CBS, NPR, PBS, CNN, and MSNBC did their job, there would be no market for Fox.
 
How often do we hear that in here?

We post something from the Washington Times or through Drudge to the AP or from Fox because, well, the truth is -- the LSM won't.

They just won't.

Sure, they'll have it on their website as 'raw feed' from the wire services. Who doesn't? Every two-bit media outlet in the World that subscribes (a PAID service) to the AP, BBC, UPI, the Slimes, Reuters or whatever will have it somewhere on the website.

Sometimes -- The even (gasp!) print it in the viewspaper....... In section F, page 17, right below the article on how to shampoo your Poodle.

But when it comes to TV, nobody on the dim side EVER questions them.

By God, if it was on the Nightly Freaking News, then it's the BY GOD TRUTH and no amount of arguing, cajoling or fact-finding will change thier minds.

You wonder why dims are so wrong so often and so misled all the time.....?

It's their choice. They don't HAVE to get their views/news from the alphabet media and Comedy Central. They CHOOSE to.

So they, in effect, CHOOSE to be uninformed and stupid.

Here's your 'reliable source' dims

He’s Back! NBC Rats Out Brian Williams On 11 Lies…


Just call him the Rocket Man.

Via Inquisitr

A review of NBC anchorman Brian Williams’ journalistic exploits has put a number to his fibs. So far, the tally stands at 11 different occasions he fell short of telling the whole truth, and the investigation isn’t done.

In an interesting twist, it appears that the NBC News staff was aware of Williams’ fibbing — they even pointed out specific incidents for in-house investigators to look deeper into, the New York Times reported.

These include the lie that first unraveled Williams’ position as NBC anchorman and led to his suspension — a 2003 incident in Iraq in which Brian claimed he was in a helicopter damaged by rocket fire.

But now, the public can add these lies to their laundry list: a missile attack on a different helicopter in Iraq in 2006; the story about how he got a piece of the helicopter that crashed during the assassination of Osama bin Laden; and one during his reporting of the conflict between Israel and Lebanon in 2006.

That last lie also centered around a helicopter; Brian apparently told a student-run TV station in Connecticut that rockets passed “just beneath” one he was riding in during the conflict. However, he told a different account in a blog, the Washington Post added.

But the investigation has also turned up a brand-new fib, and this one involved his reports from Tahrir Square during the Arab Spring. By Williams’ account, which he told to Jon Stewart on The Daily Show in February of 2011, he was right in the thick of things. Turns out, he was most likely watching from a balcony overlooking the square.

As Brian’s on-air fabrication went, he was amid the violent clashes between protestors and a pro-government group, riding on horses and camels. He claimed he made eye contact with one of these men on a horse, and then said the man used a whip on protestors.

Keep reading
I can't speak for any of the MSNBC and Mediamatters fans on the left...but I am a moderate lefty.

The thing is this.....

You're right to an extent, if I understand your position, that lefties dismiss Fox, Breitbart, Rush, Drudge, and other righty news sources "out of hand"

I have done that too, but I'm resisting the urge to do that.

But what I see as "the problem" isn't what Fox News tells righties, or what MSNBC tells lefties...it what Fox News DOES NOT tell righties, and what MSNBC DOES NOT tell lefties.

These two media sources practice what I call "advocacy pseudo journalism"

If Watergate broke today, and it was Obama who orchestrated a cover up, you would never find a combination of journalists like Woodward and Bernstein...a conservative writer, and a liberal writer...working together for the same news source, to uncover a scandal that would bring down a Presidential administration. Fox won't hire journalists that would attempt to uncover a scandal of that proportion, nor would MSNBC in the reverse.

Going forward with this fact, one might ponder the idea that you'd hear the truth if you believed what Fox says about liberals, and what MSNBC says about conservatives. But we're not that lucky, in my opinion.

If you think Fox is telling you "the truth", there isn't much we have to talk about, and if you think they're dismissed by the left, I'd have to agree...but that doesn't mean we on the left are without good reason to do that


I also agree - to some extent. We have allowed our news system to be bought by foreign interests and it no longer serves the US.

Its fact that Fox is truthful in only 18% of their stories. Only a fool would continue to watch them for a source of news. Its very telling that, even knowing that Fox is not "fair and balanced", accurate and honest, many still watch them. Also telling is that, even though we have seen Brietbart, Limbaugh purposely lie, many still believe them.

MSNBC has very right wing journalists and guests who do hard news during the day. The liberal pundits are in the evening and, unlike Fox, they don't pretend to be anything but what they are.

A huge complaint I have with TV news is that they do a very few stories, over and over and over. If you want a more accurate and inclusive view, go to Al Jazeera and BBC.

We have also seen NBC and CBS lie. When you get exposed for forging or splicing news content like CBS did in the 2004 Elections and NBC did during George Zimmerman trials, you are deemed unreliable. When did Fox present forged documents as authentic or when did Fox splice up 911 George Zimmerman tapes so as to NOT tell the who story? You make these broad brush strokes about Fox, Breitbart, and Limbaugh. Where are your cases and incidents?

If any of ABC, NBC, CBS, NPR, PBS, CNN, and MSNBC did their job, there would be no market for Fox.
There is always a market for confirming phantom fears and prejudices.
 
Brian Williams lying is shocking and huge news. NBC still have not allowed him to speak about it.

Bill O'Reilly lying, the daily lies from Fox is business as usual and doesn't even generate a blip.

Limbaugh lies a lot and his audience doesn't care. They don't even care that his books to educate children about our Revolution are lies. Brietbart lies a lot and their audience doesn't care.
 
Funny how the article mentions "11 different occasions" ---- yet never details what they are.

Funny in an ironic way because of uh, the thread title....

Any of these sources 'reliable' enough for you, douchebag?

Hint: Learn how to read then learn how to discern



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  13. dimocraps are douchebags
period

Again the fact remains ---- they're not in the article.
Ironical thread is ironical.

Exclamation point.

Brian Williams isn't a politician anyway. Duh emoticon.
 
How often do we hear that in here?

We post something from the Washington Times or through Drudge to the AP or from Fox because, well, the truth is -- the LSM won't.

They just won't.

Sure, they'll have it on their website as 'raw feed' from the wire services. Who doesn't? Every two-bit media outlet in the World that subscribes (a PAID service) to the AP, BBC, UPI, the Slimes, Reuters or whatever will have it somewhere on the website.

Sometimes -- The even (gasp!) print it in the viewspaper....... In section F, page 17, right below the article on how to shampoo your Poodle.

But when it comes to TV, nobody on the dim side EVER questions them.

By God, if it was on the Nightly Freaking News, then it's the BY GOD TRUTH and no amount of arguing, cajoling or fact-finding will change thier minds.

You wonder why dims are so wrong so often and so misled all the time.....?

It's their choice. They don't HAVE to get their views/news from the alphabet media and Comedy Central. They CHOOSE to.

So they, in effect, CHOOSE to be uninformed and stupid.

Here's your 'reliable source' dims

He’s Back! NBC Rats Out Brian Williams On 11 Lies…


Just call him the Rocket Man.

Via Inquisitr

A review of NBC anchorman Brian Williams’ journalistic exploits has put a number to his fibs. So far, the tally stands at 11 different occasions he fell short of telling the whole truth, and the investigation isn’t done.

In an interesting twist, it appears that the NBC News staff was aware of Williams’ fibbing — they even pointed out specific incidents for in-house investigators to look deeper into, the New York Times reported.

These include the lie that first unraveled Williams’ position as NBC anchorman and led to his suspension — a 2003 incident in Iraq in which Brian claimed he was in a helicopter damaged by rocket fire.

But now, the public can add these lies to their laundry list: a missile attack on a different helicopter in Iraq in 2006; the story about how he got a piece of the helicopter that crashed during the assassination of Osama bin Laden; and one during his reporting of the conflict between Israel and Lebanon in 2006.

That last lie also centered around a helicopter; Brian apparently told a student-run TV station in Connecticut that rockets passed “just beneath” one he was riding in during the conflict. However, he told a different account in a blog, the Washington Post added.

But the investigation has also turned up a brand-new fib, and this one involved his reports from Tahrir Square during the Arab Spring. By Williams’ account, which he told to Jon Stewart on The Daily Show in February of 2011, he was right in the thick of things. Turns out, he was most likely watching from a balcony overlooking the square.

As Brian’s on-air fabrication went, he was amid the violent clashes between protestors and a pro-government group, riding on horses and camels. He claimed he made eye contact with one of these men on a horse, and then said the man used a whip on protestors.

Keep reading
I can't speak for any of the MSNBC and Mediamatters fans on the left...but I am a moderate lefty.

The thing is this.....

You're right to an extent, if I understand your position, that lefties dismiss Fox, Breitbart, Rush, Drudge, and other righty news sources "out of hand"

I have done that too, but I'm resisting the urge to do that.

But what I see as "the problem" isn't what Fox News tells righties, or what MSNBC tells lefties...it what Fox News DOES NOT tell righties, and what MSNBC DOES NOT tell lefties.

These two media sources practice what I call "advocacy pseudo journalism"

If Watergate broke today, and it was Obama who orchestrated a cover up, you would never find a combination of journalists like Woodward and Bernstein...a conservative writer, and a liberal writer...working together for the same news source, to uncover a scandal that would bring down a Presidential administration. Fox won't hire journalists that would attempt to uncover a scandal of that proportion, nor would MSNBC in the reverse.

Going forward with this fact, one might ponder the idea that you'd hear the truth if you believed what Fox says about liberals, and what MSNBC says about conservatives. But we're not that lucky, in my opinion.

If you think Fox is telling you "the truth", there isn't much we have to talk about, and if you think they're dismissed by the left, I'd have to agree...but that doesn't mean we on the left are without good reason to do that


I also agree - to some extent. We have allowed our news system to be bought by foreign interests and it no longer serves the US.

Its fact that Fox is truthful in only 18% of their stories. Only a fool would continue to watch them for a source of news. Its very telling that, even knowing that Fox is not "fair and balanced", accurate and honest, many still watch them. Also telling is that, even though we have seen Brietbart, Limbaugh purposely lie, many still believe them.

MSNBC has very right wing journalists and guests who do hard news during the day. The liberal pundits are in the evening and, unlike Fox, they don't pretend to be anything but what they are.

A huge complaint I have with TV news is that they do a very few stories, over and over and over. If you want a more accurate and inclusive view, go to Al Jazeera and BBC.

We have also seen NBC and CBS lie. When you get exposed for forging or splicing news content like CBS did in the 2004 Elections and NBC did during George Zimmerman trials, you are deemed unreliable. When did Fox present forged documents as authentic or when did Fox splice up 911 George Zimmerman tapes so as to NOT tell the who story? You make these broad brush strokes about Fox, Breitbart, and Limbaugh. Where are your cases and incidents?

If any of ABC, NBC, CBS, NPR, PBS, CNN, and MSNBC did their job, there would be no market for Fox.
There is always a market for confirming phantom fears and prejudices.
Fox holds focus groups with multiple demographics to figure out what keeps their target audience tuned in.

Then they produce material that reflects what they've found.

So Fox doesn't brainwash righties, it's product is telling righties what they want to hear, and righty politicians subsidize the product because the target audiences are the same.
 
How often do we hear that in here?

We post something from the Washington Times or through Drudge to the AP or from Fox because, well, the truth is -- the LSM won't.

They just won't.

Sure, they'll have it on their website as 'raw feed' from the wire services. Who doesn't? Every two-bit media outlet in the World that subscribes (a PAID service) to the AP, BBC, UPI, the Slimes, Reuters or whatever will have it somewhere on the website.

Sometimes -- The even (gasp!) print it in the viewspaper....... In section F, page 17, right below the article on how to shampoo your Poodle.

But when it comes to TV, nobody on the dim side EVER questions them.

By God, if it was on the Nightly Freaking News, then it's the BY GOD TRUTH and no amount of arguing, cajoling or fact-finding will change thier minds.

You wonder why dims are so wrong so often and so misled all the time.....?

It's their choice. They don't HAVE to get their views/news from the alphabet media and Comedy Central. They CHOOSE to.

So they, in effect, CHOOSE to be uninformed and stupid.

Here's your 'reliable source' dims

He’s Back! NBC Rats Out Brian Williams On 11 Lies…


Just call him the Rocket Man.

Via Inquisitr

A review of NBC anchorman Brian Williams’ journalistic exploits has put a number to his fibs. So far, the tally stands at 11 different occasions he fell short of telling the whole truth, and the investigation isn’t done.

In an interesting twist, it appears that the NBC News staff was aware of Williams’ fibbing — they even pointed out specific incidents for in-house investigators to look deeper into, the New York Times reported.

These include the lie that first unraveled Williams’ position as NBC anchorman and led to his suspension — a 2003 incident in Iraq in which Brian claimed he was in a helicopter damaged by rocket fire.

But now, the public can add these lies to their laundry list: a missile attack on a different helicopter in Iraq in 2006; the story about how he got a piece of the helicopter that crashed during the assassination of Osama bin Laden; and one during his reporting of the conflict between Israel and Lebanon in 2006.

That last lie also centered around a helicopter; Brian apparently told a student-run TV station in Connecticut that rockets passed “just beneath” one he was riding in during the conflict. However, he told a different account in a blog, the Washington Post added.

But the investigation has also turned up a brand-new fib, and this one involved his reports from Tahrir Square during the Arab Spring. By Williams’ account, which he told to Jon Stewart on The Daily Show in February of 2011, he was right in the thick of things. Turns out, he was most likely watching from a balcony overlooking the square.

As Brian’s on-air fabrication went, he was amid the violent clashes between protestors and a pro-government group, riding on horses and camels. He claimed he made eye contact with one of these men on a horse, and then said the man used a whip on protestors.

Keep reading
I can't speak for any of the MSNBC and Mediamatters fans on the left...but I am a moderate lefty.

The thing is this.....

You're right to an extent, if I understand your position, that lefties dismiss Fox, Breitbart, Rush, Drudge, and other righty news sources "out of hand"

I have done that too, but I'm resisting the urge to do that.

But what I see as "the problem" isn't what Fox News tells righties, or what MSNBC tells lefties...it what Fox News DOES NOT tell righties, and what MSNBC DOES NOT tell lefties.

These two media sources practice what I call "advocacy pseudo journalism"

If Watergate broke today, and it was Obama who orchestrated a cover up, you would never find a combination of journalists like Woodward and Bernstein...a conservative writer, and a liberal writer...working together for the same news source, to uncover a scandal that would bring down a Presidential administration. Fox won't hire journalists that would attempt to uncover a scandal of that proportion, nor would MSNBC in the reverse.

Going forward with this fact, one might ponder the idea that you'd hear the truth if you believed what Fox says about liberals, and what MSNBC says about conservatives. But we're not that lucky, in my opinion.

If you think Fox is telling you "the truth", there isn't much we have to talk about, and if you think they're dismissed by the left, I'd have to agree...but that doesn't mean we on the left are without good reason to do that

FNC arose out of the vacuum left by the DISGUSTING FILTH in the Lame Stream Media. Nature AND business abhor a vacuum. Someone will fill it.

The alphabet media is no longer in the business of reporting the News. It just isn't. Hasn't been for decades,

The DISGUSTING FILTH in the LSM LOSES money on their News Gathering enterprises and the Entertainment division is tired of supporting them.

It's just so much easier for them to be entertainment instead of News.

News is expensive, a liability, entertainment is profitable. So even their News programs have gone to entertainment. And the number one demographic for entertainment is the young and unmarried and the stupid and clueless.

Jon Stewart and Bill Maher are nothing more than the DISGUSTING FILTH in the LSM indoctrinating youth while disguised as 'entertainment/comedy'.


The alphabet media copied them (Laugh In, Saturday Night Live, etc) decades ago and gave up on the News entirely.

Then -- The Ideologues moved in and took over.

FNC has CLEAR Ideologues on their Network but FNC insists that they be clearly identified as such.

Is there ANY doubt in your mind that Sean Hannity is a Conservative? Has he ever denied it? No.

Is there ANY doubt that John Stossel is a liberturdian? No. He proudly announces it on his every show.

Geraldo is also proud of his liberalism and so is Juan Williams.

But FNC's Straight, Hard News is about as fair and as balanced as it gets.

Hardened dimocraps won't see that because they herald from watching stations that are SO incredibly dimocraptic that they think FNC is hard core Conservative.

They're not. They're honest. When you tune in to Hannity or Geraldo or Juan Williams or Stossel or -- Whomever -- You know EXACTLY what you're getting.

Brett Baier is about as honest as it gets on the Nightly News. They have a panel every night with at least one liberal that gets a fair chance to explain the liberal POV. EVERY night.

I have watched Charles Krauthammer AND Stephen Hayes just absolutely TORCH GW Bush and many other Conservatives.

You just don't see that very often in the alphabet media. They have become the propaganda arm of the dimocrap party

Most people can see it. dimocraps can't. But, dimocraps are scum

period.


^^^^^^^^^

There it is. He knows he's being lied to and willfully decides to swallow it whole.

Ignorance is a choice.
 
How often do we hear that in here?

We post something from the Washington Times or through Drudge to the AP or from Fox because, well, the truth is -- the LSM won't.

They just won't.

Sure, they'll have it on their website as 'raw feed' from the wire services. Who doesn't? Every two-bit media outlet in the World that subscribes (a PAID service) to the AP, BBC, UPI, the Slimes, Reuters or whatever will have it somewhere on the website.

Sometimes -- The even (gasp!) print it in the viewspaper....... In section F, page 17, right below the article on how to shampoo your Poodle.

But when it comes to TV, nobody on the dim side EVER questions them.

By God, if it was on the Nightly Freaking News, then it's the BY GOD TRUTH and no amount of arguing, cajoling or fact-finding will change thier minds.

You wonder why dims are so wrong so often and so misled all the time.....?

It's their choice. They don't HAVE to get their views/news from the alphabet media and Comedy Central. They CHOOSE to.

So they, in effect, CHOOSE to be uninformed and stupid.

Here's your 'reliable source' dims

He’s Back! NBC Rats Out Brian Williams On 11 Lies…


Just call him the Rocket Man.

Via Inquisitr

A review of NBC anchorman Brian Williams’ journalistic exploits has put a number to his fibs. So far, the tally stands at 11 different occasions he fell short of telling the whole truth, and the investigation isn’t done.

In an interesting twist, it appears that the NBC News staff was aware of Williams’ fibbing — they even pointed out specific incidents for in-house investigators to look deeper into, the New York Times reported.

These include the lie that first unraveled Williams’ position as NBC anchorman and led to his suspension — a 2003 incident in Iraq in which Brian claimed he was in a helicopter damaged by rocket fire.

But now, the public can add these lies to their laundry list: a missile attack on a different helicopter in Iraq in 2006; the story about how he got a piece of the helicopter that crashed during the assassination of Osama bin Laden; and one during his reporting of the conflict between Israel and Lebanon in 2006.

That last lie also centered around a helicopter; Brian apparently told a student-run TV station in Connecticut that rockets passed “just beneath” one he was riding in during the conflict. However, he told a different account in a blog, the Washington Post added.

But the investigation has also turned up a brand-new fib, and this one involved his reports from Tahrir Square during the Arab Spring. By Williams’ account, which he told to Jon Stewart on The Daily Show in February of 2011, he was right in the thick of things. Turns out, he was most likely watching from a balcony overlooking the square.

As Brian’s on-air fabrication went, he was amid the violent clashes between protestors and a pro-government group, riding on horses and camels. He claimed he made eye contact with one of these men on a horse, and then said the man used a whip on protestors.

Keep reading
I can't speak for any of the MSNBC and Mediamatters fans on the left...but I am a moderate lefty.

The thing is this.....

You're right to an extent, if I understand your position, that lefties dismiss Fox, Breitbart, Rush, Drudge, and other righty news sources "out of hand"

I have done that too, but I'm resisting the urge to do that.

But what I see as "the problem" isn't what Fox News tells righties, or what MSNBC tells lefties...it what Fox News DOES NOT tell righties, and what MSNBC DOES NOT tell lefties.

These two media sources practice what I call "advocacy pseudo journalism"

If Watergate broke today, and it was Obama who orchestrated a cover up, you would never find a combination of journalists like Woodward and Bernstein...a conservative writer, and a liberal writer...working together for the same news source, to uncover a scandal that would bring down a Presidential administration. Fox won't hire journalists that would attempt to uncover a scandal of that proportion, nor would MSNBC in the reverse.

Going forward with this fact, one might ponder the idea that you'd hear the truth if you believed what Fox says about liberals, and what MSNBC says about conservatives. But we're not that lucky, in my opinion.

If you think Fox is telling you "the truth", there isn't much we have to talk about, and if you think they're dismissed by the left, I'd have to agree...but that doesn't mean we on the left are without good reason to do that


I also agree - to some extent. We have allowed our news system to be bought by foreign interests and it no longer serves the US.

Its fact that Fox is truthful in only 18% of their stories. Only a fool would continue to watch them for a source of news. Its very telling that, even knowing that Fox is not "fair and balanced", accurate and honest, many still watch them. Also telling is that, even though we have seen Brietbart, Limbaugh purposely lie, many still believe them.

MSNBC has very right wing journalists and guests who do hard news during the day. The liberal pundits are in the evening and, unlike Fox, they don't pretend to be anything but what they are.

A huge complaint I have with TV news is that they do a very few stories, over and over and over. If you want a more accurate and inclusive view, go to Al Jazeera and BBC.

We have also seen NBC and CBS lie. When you get exposed for forging or splicing news content like CBS did in the 2004 Elections and NBC did during George Zimmerman trials, you are deemed unreliable. When did Fox present forged documents as authentic or when did Fox splice up 911 George Zimmerman tapes so as to NOT tell the who story? You make these broad brush strokes about Fox, Breitbart, and Limbaugh. Where are your cases and incidents?

If any of ABC, NBC, CBS, NPR, PBS, CNN, and MSNBC did their job, there would be no market for Fox.
Fox's market isn't based on filling an information void, it's based on entertainment and selling fear to a market that craves it
 
And this scumbag

New Bio Reveals Former CBS Anchor Walter Cronkite Far More Biased Than Widely Believed

I remember during the Tet Offensive how Cronkite and the DISGUSTING FILTH in the LSM were portraying the battle as an American loss and a VC Victory.

NOTHING could have been further from the truth. I should know, I was there.

We fucking SLAUGHTERED them like pigs. In every battle, in every town, every Village and every City we killed them like chickens at a processing plant.

In fact, we completely and utterly destroyed the VC as an effective fighting force.

But the DISGUSTING FILTH was reporting it as an American defeat.

dimocraps are scum
 
And let's not forget this lying scumbag of a dimocrap piece of fucking shit.

With New Movie Dan Rather Still Claiming 60 Minutes Bush Story Fake But Accurate Mediaite

And people wonder why FNC is kicking so much ass?

dimocraps AND their LSM are lying scum

period
No one has to wonder anything of the sort when people like you come here and dump the load of rage they accumulated skimming their favorite propaganda sources. Anger short-circuits critical thinking as the people who write for the RW know very well. They give you someone to blame except for yourselves and your terrible choices in leaders.
 

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