Do you consider this Justice? Is this who we are?

[Rambunctious]

Hey all, look at what Luckyone, Cowboyted, and the rest of the Leftists have said. Now I have a question for all you conservatives------->
If United States citizen male, has a wife and kids who are hungry and goes in and robs a bank without a gun, just with a note demanding money, what happens to his wife and kids if he goes to jail? Suppose he only got 5000.00 dollars, and they recovered all the money? Why, that was a no fault crime, wasn't it?!?!?! OR, what if in MANY-MANY states, and this is true----------->you go on a 3 month vacation, come back and discover someone is squatting in......on, your property? You can NOT even go in your house, because they have been there 30 or 45 days and toss them. AND, he has his wife and kids with him! You can't do a damn thing but evict them, and in most jurisdictions, that takes 90 days or looooooooonger, while they trash your house!

Is that fair to you the home owner? And guess how this all came to pass. Look it up! It comes from the Feds, and when you discover who/whom did this, smoke is going to be coming out of your ears, and the reason why it was done!

So now you got this ILLEGAL ALIEN who broke in to your BIG HOUSE, your country, stayed for 19 years, got married to someone down the block and kept her in YOUR BIG house, had kids, but nah......victimless crime.

BULLSH**! No, the kids didn't do the crime, but just like the bank robbers kids, they will be without daddy. And just like the squatters kids, once the home owner gets them evicted, they will suffer too!

But NONE of this had to happen to these kids, if the ILLEGAL didn't just BREAK IN! We didn't tell him to, now did we. And the reason HIS KIDS are suffering is NOT because of us, or Trump, or ICE, but rather one person, and that would be the ILLEGAL ALIEN who thought he was slick 19 years ago. Yes, he thought he was slick just like the bank robber, and like the squatter, but he wasn't slick enough. If I was those kids, when I got older, I would change my last name to my mothers maiden name, period, end of story!

And, just like I surmised in multiple posts, the LEFT is going to get poster children of the POOR ILLEGALS, and try and yank on your heart strings. Tell the LEFT, instead of wasting time posting and complaining about what laws are now being enforced, spend your time to create a GO FUND ME PAGE. They might get more sympathy that way. ORRRRRRRRRRRR, you could get on your high horses and DEMAND that your LEFTIST POLITICIANS write new laws in congress to rescind the laws causing this. If you decide to do that, I will create a GO FUND ME PAGE for a lawyer to draft the legislation for you; then laugh like hell when your LEFTIST leaders won't even return your calls to sponsor it, hehehehehehehe. The last time they tried it, it was actually GW and congress. Not only did it cause the old phone banks to shut down in DC, but over 1/2 of the bills signed sponsors got booted out of office, you brilliant Leftists go ahead, and I will help mail YOUR BILL to all your DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS CRITTERS, and see if they want to commit POLITICAL suicide for you-) I sure hope so!

His wife must be illegal as well or they would not have anything to worry about... so she and the kids need to pack their bags and go home... and then re apply when Trump and the republicans fix the immigration system....

 

[imawhosure]

This Guatemalan man deserved to be taken to a court and have the judge decide his fate..........

This Guatemalan man deserved to be taken to a court and have the judge decide his fate...............not Trump.

He can petition a judge in Guatemala.

And rule of law.

Apparently it's you who don't. This guy was a scoflaw for 19 years. Ample time to become legit.

He CHOSE not too.

Sucks to be him.

Sure thing Lucky, in the world according to you!


In my last examples, I put forth a bank robber, and a squatter. (I notice you didn't want touch that with a 10 foot pole, but I digress)

So let us all project that our illustrious bank robber, and our supposed hero squatter, go to court and beg for mercy! The judge says, ok, you are forgiven and handed community service! YAY team!

But now I ask you MR/MZ/Der Lucky, what is the difference between these 2, and the ILLEGAL ALIEN?

Refuse to wait for your take, so I will tell you-------> IF the bank robber and squatter proclaim they will NEVER break the law again, the judge can release them as law abiding citizens going forward, and if they step out of line, GO TO JAIL, GO DIRECTLY TO JAIL, DO NOT PASS GO, DO NOT COLLECT 200 DOLLARS!

Reasonable? Sounds like it to me! You tow the line, you are off the hook.

But, look at your illegal alien, lol. He is illegal and against the laws of the land, if they allow him to stay. In essence, (as usual for LEFTISTS) they want to give a better deal to illegal alien criminals, then they do to American criminals.

AMERICAN CRIMINALS-----------> You break the law after your promise, you WILL go to jail. Illegal aliens------->you go ahead, we will break our nations laws with you!

The LEFTIST argument is useless, helpless, and they are trying to snare you as they know it is hopeless! Have all of you politically heard of a 3 legged stool? Yeah, well the Left has one leg of the 3, and it is ready to collapse on them right now.

If you buy any of the BULLSH** put forth by the LEFT on this issue, then you have to ask yourself something-------->why did NOT the LEFT put forth more bills to change the laws, after GW?

ANSWER--------->because it was a political LOSER, lol. So chide these chumps, make them try and FORCE their LEFTIST heroes to change the rules. Trust me; they will be doing all of us a favor, as 50% of them will get REMOVED in the next election.

Step UP LEFTISTS! Put your political power, AND YOUR LEFTIST heroes on the line.

LET ME TRANSLATE that FOR YOU LEFTISTS---------> Put up, or shut the FU** up, you are as transparent as the day is long, and no matter how hard you spin, you aren't getting any help from us-)

And oh, by the way------------>we are scanning the GO FUND ME PAGES, just to see if you LEFTISTS will put your money where your mouth is-)

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Good question and one that deserves and answer

It is true that I do not personally know any of these people and they do not affect me personally. As such, I should not be considering them at all. Nonetheless, the U.S. has stood for Morals, Ethics, Principles, Empathy/Humanity for 248 years. I live my own life by those guidelines. We are losing that and becoming a nation of Billionaires only interested in their own pocketbooks.

It is the principle of the thing that bothers me but more so because when you lose morals, ethics, principles and humanity, you are giving PERMISSION for anyone with power and money to come in and take advantage and use you. In other words, WE ALL lose and one reality is that when you lose these basics, getting them back is close to impossible.

We need to stand for something other than power and money.

You don't stand for any of it
You are disgusting low-life sub human rat m*********** who exploits people and their children. you are disgusting .
sick disgusting weirdo

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

 

[imawhosure]

His wife must be illegal as well or they would not have anything to worry about... so she and the kids need to pack their bags and go home... and then re apply when Trump and the republicans fix the immigration system....

I am not sure that is true. I am in no way suggesting you are attempting to mislead us, but I am not positive marriage gives you a pass any longer.

But then again, who knows. Biden abused, misused, and ignored the law, we as Americans no longer have a clue............until a stand up administration tells us exactly what is, and what is not legal!

 

[Rambunctious]

I am not sure that is true. I am in no way suggesting you are attempting to mislead us, but I am not positive marriage gives you a pass any longer.

But then again, who knows. Biden abused, misused, and ignored the law, we as Americans no longer have a clue............until a stand up administration tells us exactly what is, and what is not legal!

I thought you could apply for a visa if you are married to an American citizen... but maybe they have changed that rule...

 

[Luckyone]

I'm just sad that Demcorats aren't leaving America too like they promised.

You post means that you are all for this:

Let's see how sincere you are about that. What was the good part of deporting this guy who spent 19 years in the U.S.?

I don't know the details of the man and as such, I cannot comment on good or bad. I do know that someone that has been here for 19 years, has a wife and 2 childrend, and all he has in his record is one trespassing accusation, cannot be a person that has done bad things.

Nonetheless, he has broken the law and he does need to have his day in court where a judge will decide (based on all the evidence), whether this man is to be deported or given a chance to earn legal status.

You don't want to talk about the examples I gave? Name any examples, then, of president Biden and his administration compromising with candidate Trump?

There has never been a compromise with Trump because with him it has always been "My way or the Highway". No compromise is EVER possible with that kind of mentality.

Nonetheless, you want an example? Here you go.

Having said that, in February 2024, a committee of 2 Republicans and 2 Democrats (who were chosen by each party to come up with a border bill), came up with a border bill that leant heavily in favor of what the Republicans had been asking for, for 2 years. The bill was supported by the Senate Chief (McConnell). When the compromise was announced, Trump autormatically axed it (he wanted the illegal alien problem not solved until November as he was using it to get elected).

Or with president elect Trump in the several weeks before the Biden-Harris defeat and Inauguaration day?

 

[Nostra]

Here in this video is a Guatemalan man that was deported this week. This man was here in the U.S. illegally but he has been here for 19 years and he is married and has 2 children, one of which is 4 months old.



Imagine the consequences that his family is now going to suffer.

Is this Justice? Is this who we are now?

 

[DonGlock26]

You post means that you are all for this:

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I don't know the details of the man and as such, I cannot comment on good or bad. I do know that someone that has been here for 19 years, has a wife and 2 childrend, and all he has in his record is one trespassing accusation, cannot be a person that has done bad things.

Nonetheless, he has broken the law and he does need to have his day in court where a judge will decide (based on all the evidence), whether this man is to be deported or given a chance to earn legal status.



There has never been a compromise with Trump because with him it has always been "My way or the Highway". No compromise is EVER possible with that kind of mentality.

Nonetheless, you want an example? Here you go.

Having said that, in February 2024, a committee of 2 Republicans and 2 Democrats (who were chosen by each party to come up with a border bill), came up with a border bill that leant heavily in favor of what the Republicans had been asking for, for 2 years. The bill was supported by the Senate Chief (McConnell). When the compromise was announced, Trump autormatically axed it (he wanted the illegal alien problem not solved until November as he was using it to get elected).

TLDR

 

[DonGlock26]

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BILL CLINTON'S FIGHT IN DOUBLING THE DEPORTATION OF ILLEGAL ALIENS​

 

[Luckyone]

You don't stand for any of it
You are disgusting low-life sub human rat m*********** who exploits people and their children. you are disgusting .
sick disgusting weirdo

You are now on ignore (#45)

 

[Seymour Flops]

There has never been a compromise with Trump because with him it has always been "My way or the Highway". No compromise is EVER possible with that kind of mentality.

Nonetheless, you want an example? Here you go.

Having said that, in February 2024, a committee of 2 Republicans and 2 Democrats (who were chosen by each party to come up with a border bill), came up with a border bill that leant heavily in favor of what the Republicans had been asking for, for 2 years. The bill was supported by the Senate Chief (McConnell). When the compromise was announced, Trump autormatically axed it (he wanted the illegal alien problem not solved until November as he was using it to get elected).

That bill had nothing to do with compromising with Trump. The people who voted for it did not consult with Trump, nor solicit his opinion. How could they have been compromising with Trump?

They literally created a bill to legalize what Biden had been doing already, in exchange for more judges - appointed by Biden - to give a further patina of legality to the illegal immigration policy.

Trump saw through it, even if the Lindsay Graham's of the GOP did not. Of course he warned the voters what some Senate Repubs were colluding with Democrats to do.

The House had passed a real compromise, known as HB2 that the Democrats in the Senate never brought to the floor.

There never has been a Democrat willingness to compromise with Trump. They went into the attack mode as soon as he announced in 2016, and have never come out of it since. There are Democrats who first became aware of politics about the time they got their driving learner's permits, and now are in their sixth or seventh year of undergrad studies in college and have known nothing in politics except hating Trump. It's a sickness and I predict many suicides when Trump is gone.

Trump is solving the immigration problem for real now. I'll let Trump's new press secretary explain it.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Luckyone I have to admit, this idea that the Democrats want to compromise with Trump (and always have) is pretty amusing, but also intriguing. So let's wargame that, as we used to say in the Army.

I'll be Donald Trump, and you be whoever the current most powerful and influencial Democrat is right now.

So, I hear you want to compromise. I love compromise, just like in my YUGE bestseller, The Art of the Deal. Let's do it. Let's get it done. I'll go first:

I want to enforce the law, track down dangerous lawbreakers who are in violation of the law, and deport them. I'll first focus on violent criminals and then on those who have had their immigration due process and have been ordered to leave the country, but stayed anyway. What do you want?

 

[Luckyone]

That bill had nothing to do with compromising with Trump. The people who voted for it did not consult with Trump, nor solicit his opinion. How could they have been compromising with Trump?

They literally created a bill to legalize what Biden had been doing already, in exchange for more judges - appointed by Biden - to give a further patina of legality to the illegal immigration policy.

Trump saw through it, even if the Lindsay Graham's of the GOP did not. Of course he warned the voters what some Senate Repubs were colluding with Democrats to do.

The House had passed a real compromise, known as HB2 that the Democrats in the Senate never brought to the floor.

There never has been a Democrat willingness to compromise with Trump. They went into the attack mode as soon as he announced in 2016, and have never come out of it since. There are Democrats who first became aware of politics about the time they got their driving learner's permits, and now are in their sixth or seventh year of undergrad studies in college and have known nothing in politics except hating Trump. It's a sickness and I predict many suicides when Trump is gone.

Trump is solving the immigration problem for real now. I'll let Trump's new press secretary explain it.

As I said, no way anyone can ever compromise on anything with Trump.

As far as solving the immigration problem, that is not 100% true as it cannot be "solved" They have been trying for 50 years and no one has solved it. The problem is worldwide and as long as the root of the problem (hunger, poverty, violence, no freedom, etc.), it will continue. It might lessen but it cannot be fixed. People that are driven to come, will find a way to do it.

In addition and FYI, Biden brought the immigration problem down to the same levels it was at the height of Trump's first term. In other words, it was not the same problem at the end of his term than at the beginning. Biden did make changes that eased the problem considerably

 

[imawhosure]

I thought you could apply for a visa if you are married to an American citizen... but maybe they have changed that rule...

Honestly, it changed long ago Ram, but whatever the law actually was, nobody enforced it.

I am Hispanic, lol. But, I actually look Caucasian. Not so much my now deceased brothers and sister.

So you are wondering, where am I going with this!

When I was around 8 or 9, I went with my brother to US Steel in Chicago to pick up his paycheck. That is where we lived. (This is a 100% true story) So back in those days, you could take children into bars and buy them a Coke, Pepsi, or whatever that had no alcohol.

So we come out of the bar where I had a Cola and Peanuts where he cashed his check, (called 3 fingers Joe, and anyone looking it up will find the bar) and we are stopped by immigration agents. They start talking to my brother in Spanish, (and he doesn't know the language) and he tells them to speak in English, and so they do. They ask him for his papers, and where he got the white kid, lol.

Needless to say, after they threw him against the wall, and he gave them his SS card and drivers license, they let us both go, possibly because I was bawling my eyes out. I still remember what those 2 agents faces look like to this day, although I am relatively sure, they are both dead and gone!

We went home and my brother talked to my father who WAS from Mexico, and here is what he said........which I was told when I turned 21 or 22, and my father was dead and gone----------> Mexico is the land of GRAFT! If you have money, you can buy anything. This is why he came to America, LEGALLY! He also worked for US Steel in Chicago for 42 years. My father, and 2 of his siblings came here legally almost 100 years ago. He had to have a sponsor, responsible for him, until he was able to support himself.

He became an American citizen, and built weapons of war inside the walls of US Steel for our military. I know you probably do not know what a moulder is, but he received a certificate from our federal government, for being a moulder, and building projects to specification for WWII!

Point is------->I never ever forgot the message passed on about Mexico, from a resident that escaped; being my father. And as we can all see, little or nothing has changed! We need send the illegals BACK! Maybe they have learned enough here to fix the Southern Hemisphere, but we can NOT allow them to come here, and screw up the USA because they did not learn......period, end of story!

 

[tyroneweaver]

Are you a groomer too this is what you support
Are you sad to see the illegal Kidde f****** go
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You should immigrate to the UK you'd fit right in

Looks like the Marlin pitching staff

 

[Luckyone]

Luckyone I have to admit, this idea that the Democrats want to compromise with Trump (and always have) is pretty amusing, but also intriguing. So let's wargame that, as we used to say in the Army.

I'll be Donald Trump, and you be whoever the current most powerful and influencial Democrat is right now.

So, I hear you want to compromise. I love compromise, just like in my YUGE bestseller, The Art of the Deal. Let's do it. Let's get it done. I'll go first:

I want to enforce the law, track down dangerous lawbreakers who are in violation of the law, and deport them. I'll first focus on violent criminals and then on those who have had their immigration due process and have been ordered to leave the country, but stayed anyway. What do you want?

You make my job too easy.

Mace immigration bill gets support from more than 60 Dems​

Rep. Nancy Mace’s (R-S.C.) bill titled Preventing Violence Against Women by Illegal Aliens Act passed in a 274-145 vote Thursday with more than a quarter of Democrats voting in support.

The new legislation seeks to deem immigrants lacking permanent legal status who have committed sex offenses or domestic violence as “inadmissible” and “deportable,” and 61 Democrats supported the bill.

 

[Rigby5]

He should have thought about his family and got his citizenship. He was here for 19 fucking years.
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It the past and the rest of the world, if you marry a citizen, you become a citizen.
The rules are not arbitrary and up to politicians.
They are based on inherent individual rights.

 

[Rigby5]

Tough shit

Hypocrisy since the whole US is mostly illegal immigrants from Europe who simply murdered the natives in order to steal their land.

 

[Rambunctious]

Honestly, it changed long ago Ram, but whatever the law actually was, nobody enforced it.

I am Hispanic, lol. But, I actually look Caucasian. Not so much my now deceased brothers and sister.

So you are wondering, where am I going with this!

When I was around 8 or 9, I went with my brother to US Steel in Chicago to pick up his paycheck. That is where we lived. (This is a 100% true story) So back in those days, you could take children into bars and buy them a Coke, Pepsi, or whatever that had no alcohol.

So we come out of the bar where I had a Cola and Peanuts where he cashed his check, (called 3 fingers Joe, and anyone looking it up will find the bar) and we are stopped by immigration agents. They start talking to my brother in Spanish, (and he doesn't know the language) and he tells them to speak in English, and so they do. They ask him for his papers, and where he got the white kid, lol.

Needless to say, after they threw him against the wall, and he gave them his SS card and drivers license, they let us both go, possibly because I was bawling my eyes out. I still remember what those 2 agents faces look like to this day, although I am relatively sure, they are both dead and gone!

We went home and my brother talked to my father who WAS from Mexico, and here is what he said........which I was told when I turned 21 or 22, and my father was dead and gone----------> Mexico is the land of GRAFT! If you have money, you can buy anything. This is why he came to America, LEGALLY! He also worked for US Steel in Chicago for 42 years. My father, and 2 of his siblings came here legally almost 100 years ago. He had to have a sponsor, responsible for him, until he was able to support himself.

He became an American citizen, and built weapons of war inside the walls of US Steel for our military. I know you probably do not know what a moulder is, but he received a certificate from our federal government, for being a moulder, and building projects to specification for WWII!

Point is------->I never ever forgot the message passed on about Mexico, from a resident that escaped; being my father. And as we can all see, little or nothing has changed! We need send the illegals BACK! Maybe they have learned enough here to fix the Southern Hemisphere, but we can NOT allow them to come here, and screw up the USA because they did not learn......period, end of story!

I'm also half Hispanic But look Caucasian... I can speak Spanish which really freaks people out... Yeah I don't know all the laws involving immigration... my great great grandparents on my fathers side were here on agriculture work permits... they moved around in wagons following the harvest....
My mom was Caucasian and I took after her....