Do republicans even know what they are voting for this election?

[Billy000]

Again the rise in prices would not offset the extra money per month a person would be making. Something at McDonald's will go up 10 cents while the person with a higher wage could afford more items on the menu regardless. Everyone else especially would be making enough money to not care if that Big Mac went up a dime.

This is true because the increase in wages is spread out through hundreds if not thousands of items McDonald's sells every day. It has more impact on mom and pop shops like hardware stores, flower shops, ice cream shops, lawnmower shops, lawn care companies and startup businesses.

You are a business owner and want to open up another operation. You narrowed it down to two choices: one is a city that has a $15.00 minimum wage. The other uses the federal standard of $7.50 or whatever it is today. Which city do you think you would choose?

What is the first thing a city does to attract a business that are considering their city to start a new or existing company? They offer tax exemptions.

Lol if we raised the federal minimum wage we wouldn't have the problem of mom and pop shops setting up in certain areas. If you want me to find a link for this I will, but a survey found that 3 out of 5 small businesses support raising the minimum wage to 10.10 per hour. Why? Because it means more consumer spending. Consumer spending is the driving force of the economy. The number 1 reason small businesses go under is because of a lack of demand. Raising the minimum wage alleviates that problem. Now granted 15 per hour is pretty ambitious, but again it matters how it is done. If it is raised gradually over a few years it gives the market time to respond.

That begs the question: if most small businesses are for increasing minimum wage, why don't they increase wages themselves without government?

Plus I think you're looking at this too myopically. When you increase wages, you increase all other costs as well such as the employers matching SS contributions, their matching of Medicare contributions. From what my employer told me, the more you pay an employee, the more the employer has to pay for unemployment and workman's compensation insurance as well.

So I don't understand why mom and pop would be all for this. Of course we know why Democrats are for it. They can't wait for all that extra taxation that would happen when people earn more money.,

They don't raise wages themselves because the raise would have to be something widespread to have an actual economic benefit for everyone. Unless their employees only shopped at the business they worked at, it wouldn't make any sense.

Increasing minimum wage doesn't make sense either:

REPORT: Seattle Wage Hike Off To ‘Pretty Bad Start,’ Kills 700 Jobs
3:20 PM 10/24/2015


Read more: REPORT: Seattle Wage Hike Off To ‘Pretty Bad Start,’ Kills 700 Jobs

There probably would be some initial job loss, but as Tyrone's graph pointed out earlier in this thread, job growth over time is greater in places with higher minimum wages. This is because of an increase in consumer demand. Also, I don't suspect all of those jobs were lost solely because of the wage hike.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I consider this a pivotal point for republicans. They need to make up their minds whether the country should elect the reality TV show star, or the retired brain surgeon with dementia.

Ya do know the election is a year away not next month correct?

We don't want to make the same mistake you did an pick a name out of the Chicago phone book and elect a community organizer...who would of lost the race to Mike dikka for the Illinois Senate if da coach would of ran.

 

[Billy000]

Again the rise in prices would not offset the extra money per month a person would be making. Something at McDonald's will go up 10 cents while the person with a higher wage could afford more items on the menu regardless. Everyone else especially would be making enough money to not care if that Big Mac went up a dime.

This is true because the increase in wages is spread out through hundreds if not thousands of items McDonald's sells every day. It has more impact on mom and pop shops like hardware stores, flower shops, ice cream shops, lawnmower shops, lawn care companies and startup businesses.

You are a business owner and want to open up another operation. You narrowed it down to two choices: one is a city that has a $15.00 minimum wage. The other uses the federal standard of $7.50 or whatever it is today. Which city do you think you would choose?

What is the first thing a city does to attract a business that are considering their city to start a new or existing company? They offer tax exemptions.

Lol if we raised the federal minimum wage we wouldn't have the problem of mom and pop shops setting up in certain areas. If you want me to find a link for this I will, but a survey found that 3 out of 5 small businesses support raising the minimum wage to 10.10 per hour. Why? Because it means more consumer spending. Consumer spending is the driving force of the economy. The number 1 reason small businesses go under is because of a lack of demand. Raising the minimum wage alleviates that problem. Now granted 15 per hour is pretty ambitious, but again it matters how it is done. If it is raised gradually over a few years it gives the market time to respond.

That begs the question: if most small businesses are for increasing minimum wage, why don't they increase wages themselves without government?

Plus I think you're looking at this too myopically. When you increase wages, you increase all other costs as well such as the employers matching SS contributions, their matching of Medicare contributions. From what my employer told me, the more you pay an employee, the more the employer has to pay for unemployment and workman's compensation insurance as well.

So I don't understand why mom and pop would be all for this. Of course we know why Democrats are for it. They can't wait for all that extra taxation that would happen when people earn more money.,

They don't raise wages themselves because the raise would have to be something widespread to have an actual economic benefit for everyone. Unless their employees only shopped at the business they worked at, it wouldn't make any sense.

Increasing minimum wage doesn't make sense either:

REPORT: Seattle Wage Hike Off To ‘Pretty Bad Start,’ Kills 700 Jobs
3:20 PM 10/24/2015


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/24/r...retty-bad-start-kills-700-jobs/#ixzz3pbMbuUBv

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

This is true because the increase in wages is spread out through hundreds if not thousands of items McDonald's sells every day. It has more impact on mom and pop shops like hardware stores, flower shops, ice cream shops, lawnmower shops, lawn care companies and startup businesses.

You are a business owner and want to open up another operation. You narrowed it down to two choices: one is a city that has a $15.00 minimum wage. The other uses the federal standard of $7.50 or whatever it is today. Which city do you think you would choose?

What is the first thing a city does to attract a business that are considering their city to start a new or existing company? They offer tax exemptions.

Lol if we raised the federal minimum wage we wouldn't have the problem of mom and pop shops setting up in certain areas. If you want me to find a link for this I will, but a survey found that 3 out of 5 small businesses support raising the minimum wage to 10.10 per hour. Why? Because it means more consumer spending. Consumer spending is the driving force of the economy. The number 1 reason small businesses go under is because of a lack of demand. Raising the minimum wage alleviates that problem. Now granted 15 per hour is pretty ambitious, but again it matters how it is done. If it is raised gradually over a few years it gives the market time to respond.

That begs the question: if most small businesses are for increasing minimum wage, why don't they increase wages themselves without government?

Plus I think you're looking at this too myopically. When you increase wages, you increase all other costs as well such as the employers matching SS contributions, their matching of Medicare contributions. From what my employer told me, the more you pay an employee, the more the employer has to pay for unemployment and workman's compensation insurance as well.

So I don't understand why mom and pop would be all for this. Of course we know why Democrats are for it. They can't wait for all that extra taxation that would happen when people earn more money.,

They don't raise wages themselves because the raise would have to be something widespread to have an actual economic benefit for everyone. Unless their employees only shopped at the business they worked at, it wouldn't make any sense.

Increasing minimum wage doesn't make sense either:

REPORT: Seattle Wage Hike Off To ‘Pretty Bad Start,’ Kills 700 Jobs
3:20 PM 10/24/2015


Read more: REPORT: Seattle Wage Hike Off To ‘Pretty Bad Start,’ Kills 700 Jobs

There probably would be some initial job loss, but as Tyrone's graph pointed out earlier in this thread, job growth over time is greater in places with higher minimum wages. This is because of an increase in consumer demand. Also, I don't suspect all of those jobs were lost solely because of the wage hike.

I'm surprised these figures showed up already. I was expecting a two to three year wait before the increase showed disastrous effects.

People in America today will go through hell to get lower prices. Here in Cleveland we are in Cuyahoga County which has various consumption taxes, about 7.75 cents on the dollar. We all pay it: the rich, the poor, the middle-class.

When it comes to bigger ticket items, people travel out of the county to buy products in other counties where there are less taxes. The furthest anybody would have to drive is less than a half-hour away to get to the next county.

That's what you're likely to see in cities that adopted this huge minimum wage increase. After all, the money has to come from somewhere, and as I pointed out, the costs are much more than just the wage.

People closer to the city lines will always opt to shop in another city. Those further away might only take the trip if they are buying more expensive items. Either way, the vendors lose out.

 

[Vandalshandle]

I consider this a pivotal point for republicans. They need to make up their minds whether the country should elect the reality TV show star, or the retired brain surgeon with dementia.

Ya do know the election is a year away not next month correct?

We don't want to make the same mistake you did an pick a name out of the Chicago phone book and elect a community organizer...who would of lost the race to Mike dikka for the Illinois Senate if da coach would of ran.

Well, by all means, bypass Trump, and go for a proven track record, like Romney and Palin......

 

[Wyatt earp]

I consider this a pivotal point for republicans. They need to make up their minds whether the country should elect the reality TV show star, or the retired brain surgeon with dementia.

Ya do know the election is a year away not next month correct?

We don't want to make the same mistake you did an pick a name out of the Chicago phone book and elect a community organizer...who would of lost the race to Mike dikka for the Illinois Senate if da coach would of ran.

Well, by all means, bypass Trump, and go for a proven track record, like Romney and Palin......

Are they running?

Hey rip van winkle the year is 2015 not 2011...

 

[Papageorgio]

How is there more consumer spending when things cost more to buy? If you raise their wages but everything costs more, you aren't buying any more than you did before. That's the point.

Do you think those people that make $10.00 an hour will do much with an extra ten cent per hour increase? That's $4.00 a week before taxes.

Again the rise in prices would not offset the extra money per month a person would be making. Something at McDonald's will go up 10 cents while the person with a higher wage could afford more items on the menu regardless. Everyone else especially would be making enough money to not care if that Big Mac went up a dime.

This is true because the increase in wages is spread out through hundreds if not thousands of items McDonald's sells every day. It has more impact on mom and pop shops like hardware stores, flower shops, ice cream shops, lawnmower shops, lawn care companies and startup businesses.

You are a business owner and want to open up another operation. You narrowed it down to two choices: one is a city that has a $15.00 minimum wage. The other uses the federal standard of $7.50 or whatever it is today. Which city do you think you would choose?

What is the first thing a city does to attract a business that are considering their city to start a new or existing company? They offer tax exemptions.

Lol if we raised the federal minimum wage we wouldn't have the problem of mom and pop shops setting up in certain areas. If you want me to find a link for this I will, but a survey found that 3 out of 5 small businesses support raising the minimum wage to 10.10 per hour. Why? Because it means more consumer spending. Consumer spending is the driving force of the economy. The number 1 reason small businesses go under is because of a lack of demand. Raising the minimum wage alleviates that problem. Now granted 15 per hour is pretty ambitious, but again it matters how it is done. If it is raised gradually over a few years it gives the market time to respond.

That isn't the number one reason mom and pops fail. Try again.

Lol of course it is.

That shows how out of touch you really are with how business operates, why they succeed or why they fail.

There are lots of reasons they succeed and fail and your suggestion is laughable.

 

[Vandalshandle]

I consider this a pivotal point for republicans. They need to make up their minds whether the country should elect the reality TV show star, or the retired brain surgeon with dementia.

Ya do know the election is a year away not next month correct?

We don't want to make the same mistake you did an pick a name out of the Chicago phone book and elect a community organizer...who would of lost the race to Mike dikka for the Illinois Senate if da coach would of ran.

Well, by all means, bypass Trump, and go for a proven track record, like Romney and Palin......

Are they running?

Hey rip van winkle the year is 2015 not 2011...

Yeah, I guess you are right. If The GOP eliminates everyone who has already lost, then they have pretty much reduced their choices to people like Trump and Carson.

 

[Correll]

I consider this a pivotal point for republicans. They need to make up their minds whether the country should elect the reality TV show star, or the retired brain surgeon with dementia.

Ya do know the election is a year away not next month correct?

We don't want to make the same mistake you did an pick a name out of the Chicago phone book and elect a community organizer...who would of lost the race to Mike dikka for the Illinois Senate if da coach would of ran.

Well, by all means, bypass Trump, and go for a proven track record, like Romney and Palin......

Are they running?

Hey rip van winkle the year is 2015 not 2011...

Yeah, I guess you are right. If The GOP eliminates everyone who has already lost, then they have pretty much reduced their choices to people like Trump and Carson.

I don't consider losing before a reason to be eliminated.

Hell, if we republicans did, we would have missed out on Reagan and the world would be poorer for it.

 

[Papageorgio]

I consider this a pivotal point for republicans. They need to make up their minds whether the country should elect the reality TV show star, or the retired brain surgeon with dementia.

Ya do know the election is a year away not next month correct?

We don't want to make the same mistake you did an pick a name out of the Chicago phone book and elect a community organizer...who would of lost the race to Mike dikka for the Illinois Senate if da coach would of ran.

Well, by all means, bypass Trump, and go for a proven track record, like Romney and Palin......

Are they running?

Hey rip van winkle the year is 2015 not 2011...

Yeah, I guess you are right. If The GOP eliminates everyone who has already lost, then they have pretty much reduced their choices to people like Trump and Carson.

How is Gore, Biden and Kerry's campaigns doing?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

? Raising the min wage high enough would benefit those 18 million people.

yes and to benefit those 18 million you have harm others by raising prices(shrink demand) enough to pay the 18 million. And that is not to mention all those who will lose their jobs or not get them in the first place thanks to the higher wage. You cant repeal the law of supply and demand!!

If stupid liberals want to control the price of labor why not everything?? Why not cut all prices in half or double all wages and end poverty all over the planet forever!

and all that is not to mention the violence and destructiveness of teaching people that you get ahead through liberal govt violence rather than by being worth more in a peaceful voluntary relationship!!

 

[Vandalshandle]

The way I figure it, if the democratic nominee, who was a gay, muslin, Kenyan, who had no experience, but was a America hating socialist, married to a transgender woman, and who was part African American, can win not once, but twice, against the republican candidates for president, you guys need to start mending some fences...

Speaking of which, isn't it about time for Trump to insult women and latinos again?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The way I figure it, if the democratic nominee, who was a gay, muslin, Kenyan, who had no experience, but was a America hating socialist, married to a transgender woman, and who was part African American, can win not once, but twice, against the republican candidates for president, you guys need to start mending some fences...

The world has always been liberal. Except for the brief freedom respite our genius Founders gave us the world is now reverting to type. Man is a herd animal. Whether it is Hitler Stalin Mao FDR Obama George3 or Castro the more men are led the better they like it and the more freedom they have the worse they like it.

 

[LeftofLeft]

This is true because the increase in wages is spread out through hundreds if not thousands of items McDonald's sells every day. It has more impact on mom and pop shops like hardware stores, flower shops, ice cream shops, lawnmower shops, lawn care companies and startup businesses.

You are a business owner and want to open up another operation. You narrowed it down to two choices: one is a city that has a $15.00 minimum wage. The other uses the federal standard of $7.50 or whatever it is today. Which city do you think you would choose?

What is the first thing a city does to attract a business that are considering their city to start a new or existing company? They offer tax exemptions.

Lol if we raised the federal minimum wage we wouldn't have the problem of mom and pop shops setting up in certain areas. If you want me to find a link for this I will, but a survey found that 3 out of 5 small businesses support raising the minimum wage to 10.10 per hour. Why? Because it means more consumer spending. Consumer spending is the driving force of the economy. The number 1 reason small businesses go under is because of a lack of demand. Raising the minimum wage alleviates that problem. Now granted 15 per hour is pretty ambitious, but again it matters how it is done. If it is raised gradually over a few years it gives the market time to respond.

That begs the question: if most small businesses are for increasing minimum wage, why don't they increase wages themselves without government?

Plus I think you're looking at this too myopically. When you increase wages, you increase all other costs as well such as the employers matching SS contributions, their matching of Medicare contributions. From what my employer told me, the more you pay an employee, the more the employer has to pay for unemployment and workman's compensation insurance as well.

So I don't understand why mom and pop would be all for this. Of course we know why Democrats are for it. They can't wait for all that extra taxation that would happen when people earn more money.,

They don't raise wages themselves because the raise would have to be something widespread to have an actual economic benefit for everyone. Unless their employees only shopped at the business they worked at, it wouldn't make any sense.

Increasing minimum wage doesn't make sense either:

REPORT: Seattle Wage Hike Off To ‘Pretty Bad Start,’ Kills 700 Jobs
3:20 PM 10/24/2015


Read more: REPORT: Seattle Wage Hike Off To ‘Pretty Bad Start,’ Kills 700 Jobs

There probably would be some initial job loss, but as Tyrone's graph pointed out earlier in this thread, job growth over time is greater in places with higher minimum wages. This is because of an increase in consumer demand. Also, I don't suspect all of those jobs were lost solely because of the wage hike.

SEE Detroit.