Do Federal/State/Local Governments Create Jobs?

[22lcidw]

We the People created a more perfect union

That more perfect union did not include a humongous government. In fact they warned. Just words to be used today to say were free. We are not. Just freer than many other nations. Authoritarians abuse the serfs. The serfs we do nothing as if we say it all evens out. So many of our relatives are jammed up in their lives due to those empowered. Only now there is revenge, and it lashes out at other people unfortunately.

 

[Dragonlady]

The swamp found a crime for a man looking to be President. And they are so emboldened they did. The prog Party are more akin to locusts then workier ants. They consume everything in their way at will when they are in power. And they would not exist without those worker ants. Hope and change is here and it will be terrorism carnage and despair as the years move on. If this existed when the space age started, we would still be trying to put a human into space.

The Republican Party's racist lies have all been exposed and they're going batshit crazy trying to create a white nationalist government before the USA becomes a white minority country - out of the same kind of fear of minorities that drove Apartheid South Africa to keep the majority black population from gaining power there.

Now that the myth of Republican economic expertise has been destroyed, the only way Republicans have left to keep people voting for them, is fear of immigrants and minorities, and sharing power.

 

[rightwinger]

That more perfect union did not include a humongous government. In fact they warned. Just words to be used today to say were free. We are not. Just freer than many other nations. Authoritarians abuse the serfs. The serfs we do nothing as if we say it all evens out. So many of our relatives are jammed up in their lives due to those empowered. Only now there is revenge, and it lashes out at other people unfortunately.

Of course not…

The US at its founding was a piss poor country.
We could not afford a Government that provides services to the people, field a global military, build impressive infrastructure
Today, the US is the wealthiest nation on earth, has the most powerful military in history, provides a safety net for its people

Our founders would be proud

 

[Dragonlady]

Our state govt provides jobs for road construction workers many of whom are making well north of $60 per hour. That's decent pay. Not great but decent.

In rural communities, if you have a son who is too dumb to be a farmer, and too lazy to get a job in town, you get him a job on the county road crew. Everyone knows, or is related to someone on council, or in HR. He'll have a decent job he can raise his family on. His parents will sever a building lot from the farm for him to build a house, and he'll have a good life.

This is a long standing tradition and a good one, in my opinion. People at all levels of ability and skills and intellect need to be able to live and to support families. Not all jobs can or should be automated, but all jobs should pay a "living wage".

When I lived in Toronto, City "outdoor workers" were paid an outrageous amount of money. $25 an hour, plus benefits. To pick up garbage, and cut the grass in public parks in summer, and make repairs to city buildings. But anyone making less than $25 per hour would be hard pressed to be able to afford living in Toronto at the time.

Now that they've "outsourced" all of these jobs and workers to "for profit commpanies" where the workers are receiving minimum wage (currently $16.55 per hr.), these workers are no longer receiving a living wage, and quite frankly, the City looks shabby and dirty.

The only winners here are the owners of the "for profit" companies. Not the taxpayers who are really getting inferior work, and not the workers.

 

[Redfish]

The claim was that the Government does not create jobs
They do
Other than direct employment, Government policies can make it easier for the private sector to expand and make it more profitable to not send jobs overseas

yes, but the Biden admin has done just the opposite. they have made it harder for american businesses, large and small to remain solvent due to inflation and high energy prices. They have allowed millions of illegals to enter the country taking jobs from american citizens, and their policies have made China stronger (in exchange for bribes to the entire Biden family).

 

[Redfish]

Of course not…

The US at its founding was a piss poor country.
We could not afford a Government that provides services to the people, field a global military, build impressive infrastructure
Today, the US is the wealthiest nation on earth, has the most powerful military in history, provides a safety net for its people

Our founders would be proud

their vision was "by the people, of the people, and for the people" We have exchanged that for pride flags, woke bullshit, and transvestite encouragement.

 

[Redfish]

The Republican Party's racist lies have all been exposed and they're going batshit crazy trying to create a white nationalist government before the USA becomes a white minority country - out of the same kind of fear of minorities that drove Apartheid South Africa to keep the majority black population from gaining power there.

Now that the myth of Republican economic expertise has been destroyed, the only way Republicans have left to keep people voting for them, is fear of immigrants and minorities, and sharing power.

total bullshit.

 

[rightwinger]

their vision was "by the people, of the people, and for the people" We have exchanged that for pride flags, woke bullshit, and transvestite encouragement.

That was actually Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address

Our founders were not in a position to do much for the people

 

[Dragonlady]

total bullshit.

Not a single item in my post was refuted or proven false.

 

[Redfish]

That was actually Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address

Our founders were not in a position to do much for the people

other than make them free to choose their own destiny and path. Why do you libs want to give up your freedom?

 

[Redfish]

Not a single item in my post was refuted or proven false.

obvious lies do not require refutation or proof, everyone knows they are lies.

 

[rightwinger]

other than make them free to choose their own destiny and path. Why do you libs want to give up your freedom?

Unless you were black or a woman

 

[Redfish]

Unless you were black or a woman

sadly those were world wide cultural norms at the time. Its always a mistake to judge the past using today's standards and beliefs. But you are free to denigrate the founders who created a country where a fool like you can openly express his foolish beliefs without fear of reprisal or punishment.

 

[rightwinger]

sadly those were world wide cultural norms at the time. Its always a mistake to judge the past using today's standards and beliefs.

It was also a cultural norm for Government not to provide for the poor and struggling

 

[Redfish]

It was also a cultural norm for Government not to provide for the poor and struggling

yes, in europe that was true, that is one of the reasons the USA was created where everyone is equal and has equal opportunities. you libs want to revert to a class system where your small group of leaders control all of the money and all of the power------and most of you are too ignorant to understand that that is what you are voting for.

 

[Dragonlady]

other than make them free to choose their own destiny and path. Why do you libs want to give up your freedom?

Liberals aren’t giving up any freedoms. Your SC is TAKING your freedoms away, starting with a woman’s right to autonomy, and the right of every citizen to vote and to have their votes counted.

They’re forcing Christianity on the American people and giving Christians the right to discriminate against minorities.

 

[Redfish]

Liberals aren’t giving up any freedoms. Your SC is TAKING your freedoms away, starting with a woman’s right to autonomy, and the right of every citizen to vote and to have their votes counted.

They’re forcing Christianity on the American people and giving Christians the right to discriminate against minorities.

murder has always been illegal, abortion as you libs view it is murder, the rest of the world agrees. No one is forcing Christianity on anyone. most minorities however, are Christian by their own choice.

 

[Dragonlady]

obvious lies do not require refutation or proof, everyone knows they are lies.

Nobody is falling for your bullshit. There were no lies, obvious or otherwise in the post.

Your refusal to accept reality doesn’t change the facts. Trump is statistically the WORST President in American history.

WORST job creation - even taking out Covid job losses, Trumps job creation was 70,000 fewer jobs per month than Obama, and nearly 100,000 jobs per month than Biden.

Even taking out the Covid Bounce, Biden is creating an average of 276,000 jobs, versus Trump’s 181,000 and Obama’s 250,000 average.

In every way and in every statistic, Trump is the WORST. Budget deficit, trade deficit,

Even Bidens deportation numbers are higher than Trump. Trump didn’t deport anyone. He just locked them up in filthy camps for years at your expense

 

[Redfish]

Nobody is falling for your bullshit. There were no lies, obvious or otherwise in the post.

Your refusal to accept reality doesn’t change the facts. Trump is statistically the WORST President in American history.

WORST job creation - even taking out Covid job losses, Trumps job creation was 70,000 fewer jobs per month than Obama, and nearly 100,000 jobs per month than Biden.

Even taking out the Covid Bounce, Biden is creating an average of 276,000 jobs, versus Trump’s 181,000 and Obama’s 250,000 average.

In every way and in every statistic, Trump is the WORST. Budget deficit, trade deficit,

Even Bidens deportation numbers are higher than Trump. Trump didn’t deport anyone. He just locked them up in filthy camps for years at your expense

your ignorance is amusing.

 

[Dragonlady]

murder has always been illegal, abortion as you libs view it is murder, the rest of the world agrees. No one is forcing Christianity on anyone. most minorities however, are Christian by their own choice.

Abortion is not “murder” and NOBODY agrees with you!, not even Republican women. Women are dying because of these laws.

THAT’S murder.