Do Federal/State/Local Governments Create Jobs?

[bripat9643]

People like you who live off the taxpayers and produce nothing of value.

I receive three retirement checks each month - not counting my dividend checks. Therefore, I'm living off myself.

Who issues the checks?

Duh, that would be considered "personal" information.

ROFL! Yeah. we know you don't want to answer because the government issues all the checks. You're a tick on the ass of society.

Like they say - "the best revenge is living well"...

Yeah, you're living off the backs of your fellow American.

You're so beautifully liberal!

 

[Lakhota]

I receive three retirement checks each month - not counting my dividend checks. Therefore, I'm living off myself.

Who issues the checks?

Duh, that would be considered "personal" information.

ROFL! Yeah. we know you don't want to answer because the government issues all the checks. You're a tick on the ass of society.

Like they say - "the best revenge is living well"...

Yeah, you're living off the backs of your fellow American.

You're so beautifully liberal!

Gee, I didn't know that you knew me personally. Maybe I should contact the mods to trace how you know me.

 

[candycorn]

Anyone wish we had a private sector military? How would that work? Would the Constitution allow it?

Read the link I posted, moron.

Which link?

The link he's too chicken shit to quote directly.

I posted the link, dumbass.

Of course you did.... And the reason you did it was to avoid quoting it directly because by any mature standard, you sound like a lunatic.

 

[bripat9643]

Anyone wish we had a private sector military? How would that work? Would the Constitution allow it?

Read the link I posted, moron.

Which link?

The link he's too chicken shit to quote directly.

I posted the link, dumbass.

Of course you did.... And the reason you did it was to avoid quoting it directly because by any mature standard, you sound like a lunatic.

No, the reason I avoided quoting it directly is the fact that the subject is complex and can't be explained in a paragraph or two. Quoting the entire article would be illegal. It should be easy to show I would sound like a lunatic simply by quoting the portion of the article that yo believe to be crazy.

 

[danielpalos]

Government funded research has created the Internet, GPS, the microcircuit, Google, medical breakthroughs

Millions upon millions of jobs

The government did not create Google or the microcircuit, and it only played a small part in creating the internet. Most medical breakthroughs have been privately funded.

Dude, the socialism of a public sector, already took us to the moon and back, while capitalism still searches for a profit motive.

 

[danielpalos]

The Myth of Job Creation

First, the basics. At last count, government at all levels — federal, state and local — employed 22 million Americans, with the largest segment working in public education. Is that too many? No. Since the late 1980s, the number of public-sector workers has averaged about 7.3 for every 100 people. With the loss of 569,000 government jobs since June 2009, that ratio now stands at about 7 per 100.

Public-sector job loss means trouble for everyone. Government jobs are crucial to education, public health and safety, environmental protection, defense, homeland security and myriad other functions that the private sector cannot fulfill. They are also critical for private-sector job growth in two fundamental ways. First, the government gets its supplies from private-sector companies, which is why Republican senators like John McCain have been frantically warning about the dire effects on job creation if Congress moves ahead with planned military spending cuts. (Republicans insisted upon the cuts as part of their ill-advised showdown over the debt ceiling.) Second, government spending on supplies and salaries reverberates strongly through the economy, increasing demand and with it, employment.

That means the economy suffers when government cuts back. A report by the Economic Policy Institute examined the effect of recent cutbacks at the state and local level — including direct loss of government jobs and indirect loss of suppliers’ jobs; the jobs that should have been added to keep up with population growth; and the reduction in purchasing power from other cutbacks. If not for state and local budget austerity, the report found, the economy would have 2.3 million more jobs today, half of which would be in the private sector.

The government does not create jobs? It most certainly does. And at this time of state budgetary hardship, a dose of federal fiscal aid to states and localities could create more jobs, in both the public and private sectors.

More: The Myth of Job Creation - The New York Times

No sane person can factually deny that government does in fact create jobs. It's a no-brainer!

The right merely demonstrates their lack of Faith in Capitalism when they choose austerity over making more money with an official Mint, with the (other) Peoples' tax monies.

 

[Iceweasel]

Dude, the socialism of a public sector, already took us to the moon and back, while capitalism still searches for a profit motive.

Where do you think NASA got it's money from? The stupider one is, the more likely they believe socialism can work.

 

[Iceweasel]

The right merely demonstrates their lack of Faith in Capitalism when they choose austerity over making more money with an official Mint, with the (other) Peoples' tax monies.

Can somebody translate that? Thanks.

 

[rightwinger]

Dude, the socialism of a public sector, already took us to the moon and back, while capitalism still searches for a profit motive.

Where do you think NASA got it's money from? The stupider one is, the more likely they believe socialism can work.

Why do you assholes keep coming up with the same bullshit response?

Where else is Government going to get the money from?

 

[danielpalos]

Prove it with "credible" sources. No governments - just pure, unfettered capitalism.

Prove that you're a thinking person and respond to my question.

Hospitals, pharmacies and undertakers would be the greatest beneficiaries of pure, unfettered capitalism.

What the **** is pure unfettered capitalism?

Duh, that would be the private sector taking over all public sector functions.

How would it be unfettered since you'd need a set of laws to operate?

Nope; laws are a form of socialism. Capitalism requires voluntary social transactions that involve mutually beneficial trade.

 

[danielpalos]

The right merely demonstrates their lack of Faith in Capitalism when they choose austerity over making more money with an official Mint, with the (other) Peoples' tax monies.

Can somebody translate that? Thanks.

It merely requires a clue and a Cause.

 

[BluesLegend]

Government funded research has created the Internet, GPS, the microcircuit, Google, medical breakthroughs

Millions upon millions of jobs

The government did not create Google or the microcircuit, and it only played a small part in creating the internet. Most medical breakthroughs have been privately funded.

Dude, the socialism of a public sector, already took us to the moon and back, while capitalism still searches for a profit motive.

Liberals can land a man on the moon but need government hand outs for food, housing, education, and medical?

 

[danielpalos]

Who should determine what government "should do"?

The taxpayers. If it can be done by the private sector it should be done by the private sector. This is like talking to a 5 year old.

Taxpayers? Don't you mean the VOTERS? After all, we do live in a democracy. Why do you hate the Constitution?

I hate deadbeats. And we live in a republic.

Who are the so-called "deadbeats"?

People like you who live off the taxpayers and produce nothing of value.

why do you believe someone who works for living "creates" value while someone who doesn't work for money, doesn't?

 

[danielpalos]

Government funded research has created the Internet, GPS, the microcircuit, Google, medical breakthroughs

Millions upon millions of jobs

The government did not create Google or the microcircuit, and it only played a small part in creating the internet. Most medical breakthroughs have been privately funded.

Dude, the socialism of a public sector, already took us to the moon and back, while capitalism still searches for a profit motive.

Liberals can land a man on the moon but need government hand outs for food, housing, education, and medical?

Only because the right continually exhibits market failures, in a moral of "goodwill toward men". We could have solved simple poverty last millennium, but for that.

 

[danielpalos]

Dude, the socialism of a public sector, already took us to the moon and back, while capitalism still searches for a profit motive.

Where do you think NASA got it's money from? The stupider one is, the more likely they believe socialism can work.

Dude, socialism already took us to the moon and back, last millennium. Do you have anything other than diversion, which is usually considered a fallacy.

Capitalist South Africa fell in about three years with economic sanctions. Communist Cuba is still with us.

 

[Iceweasel]

Only because the right continually exhibits market failures, in a moral of "goodwill toward men". We could have solved simple poverty last millennium, but for that.

Goodwill is a market commodity? Are you a Moonie or college student?

 

[danielpalos]

Government funded research has created the Internet, GPS, the microcircuit, Google, medical breakthroughs

Millions upon millions of jobs

The government did not create Google or the microcircuit, and it only played a small part in creating the internet. Most medical breakthroughs have been privately funded.

Dude, the socialism of a public sector, already took us to the moon and back, while capitalism still searches for a profit motive.

Liberals can land a man on the moon but need government hand outs for food, housing, education, and medical?

We could have solved simple poverty already, but the right insists on the "regulation" of a work ethic from the Iron Age.

 

[danielpalos]

Only because the right continually exhibits market failures, in a moral of "goodwill toward men". We could have solved simple poverty last millennium, but for that.

Goodwill is a market commodity? Are you a Moonie or college student?

Yes, it is when it influences public policy decisions or there would be no need for lobbyists. Are you on the right?

 

[Iceweasel]

why do you believe someone who works for living "creates" value while someone who doesn't work for money, doesn't?

If you have to ask, you're a deadbeat.

 

[danielpalos]

why do you believe someone who works for living "creates" value while someone who doesn't work for money, doesn't?

If you have to ask, you're a deadbeat.

if you don't know, it is because you are an intellectual deadbeat and that form of danger to our democracy.