Do Federal/State/Local Governments Create Jobs?

[Iceweasel]

lol, the same people who say the government doesn't create jobs also say we have too many people working for the government.

In other words, you are saying most government employees are unemployable in the private sector. You may have a point there.

You mean veterans? Why do you hate our troops?

That isn't what I said. You're a stupid liar. You couldn't even understand your own words!

 

[kaz]

I've heard many GOPers say they don't. However, I feel strongly that they do. All one has to do is think about it for a minute and the answer should become obvious. However, the biggest job creators are consumers with money to spend.

That's what's wrong, you "think about it for a minute" and go with the obvious and wrong answer. Liberalism in a nutshell, not thinking things through. An ideology which is well intentioned and poorly conceived.

What is evident if you actually think it through rather than cut off thinking in one minute is that all money spent by government was removed from the economy. That means every job created destroyed one and no job was created.

Then if you continue to think about it, you realize that government creates nothing. You took the money to fund the job from someone who used it to create a profit and grow the economy. Now you realize that every government job created destroyed more than one job.

And the best thing a government employee can do economically is nothing. But they don't, they create more red tape and bureaucracy for job creators. So now they are destroying even more than that.

So, you can think for one minute and believe the obvious, which is wrong. Or you can think it through and realize we need to reduce government jobs to create more jobs.

 

[Iceweasel]

lol, the same people who say the government doesn't create jobs also say we have too many people working for the government.

In other words, you are saying most government employees are unemployable in the private sector. You may have a point there.

Why is it necessary to distort and twist comments to attempt to support your opinion?

You posted to the wrong guy. The asshole I responded to was implying that if they didn't work for government they wouldn't be working. Maybe you aren't in any better shape?

 

[rightwinger]

lol, the same people who say the government doesn't create jobs also say we have too many people working for the government.

In other words, you are saying most government employees are unemployable in the private sector. You may have a point there.

You mean veterans? Why do you hate our troops?

That isn't what I said. You're a stupid liar. You couldn't even understand your own words!

Soldiers are government employees

 

[kaz]

lol, the same people who say the government doesn't create jobs also say we have too many people working for the government.

In other words, you are saying most government employees are unemployable in the private sector. You may have a point there.

Private sector employees are clamoring for government employment

They are? Where did that come from? Your ass?

Liberals: Not sharing crayons until the teacher takes them, insults you for having too many crayons, throws half in the trash and redistributes the rest

 

[kaz]

lol, the same people who say the government doesn't create jobs also say we have too many people working for the government.

In other words, you are saying most government employees are unemployable in the private sector. You may have a point there.

You mean veterans? Why do you hate our troops?

That isn't what I said. You're a stupid liar. You couldn't even understand your own words!

Soldiers are government employees

Soldiers don't create jobs any more than buying an insurance policy creates more wealth. They are protection for what we have.

 

[kaz]

lol, the same people who say the government doesn't create jobs also say we have too many people working for the government.

In other words, you are saying most government employees are unemployable in the private sector. You may have a point there.

Why is it necessary to distort and twist comments to attempt to support your opinion?

You posted to the wrong guy. The asshole I responded to was implying that if they didn't work for government they wouldn't be working. Maybe you aren't in any better shape?

I'd rather have government pay them to not work than have them work for government and create more bureaucracy.

 

[rightwinger]

I've heard many GOPers say they don't. However, I feel strongly that they do. All one has to do is think about it for a minute and the answer should become obvious. However, the biggest job creators are consumers with money to spend.

That's what's wrong, you "think about it for a minute" and go with the obvious and wrong answer. Liberalism in a nutshell, not thinking things through. An ideology which is well intentioned and poorly conceived.

What is evident if you actually think it through rather than cut off thinking in one minute is that all money spent by government was removed from the economy. That means every job created destroyed one and no job was created.

Then if you continue to think about it, you realize that government creates nothing. You took the money to fund the job from someone who used it to create a profit and grow the economy. Now you realize that every government job created destroyed more than one job.

And the best thing a government employee can do economically is nothing. But they don't, they create more red tape and bureaucracy for job creators. So now they are destroying even more than that.

So, you can think for one minute and believe the obvious, which is wrong. Or you can think it through and realize we need to reduce government jobs to create more jobs.

The government doesn't create anything?
Roads,bridges, parks, schools, water systems, a military, airports.....

Creates millions of jobs

 

[rightwinger]

lol, the same people who say the government doesn't create jobs also say we have too many people working for the government.

In other words, you are saying most government employees are unemployable in the private sector. You may have a point there.

You mean veterans? Why do you hate our troops?

That isn't what I said. You're a stupid liar. You couldn't even understand your own words!

Soldiers are government employees

Soldiers don't create jobs any more than buying an insurance policy creates more wealth. They are protection for what we have.

The entire military industrial complex would disagree

 

[NYcarbineer]

lol, the same people who say the government doesn't create jobs also say we have too many people working for the government.

In other words, you are saying most government employees are unemployable in the private sector. You may have a point there.

You mean veterans? Why do you hate our troops?

That isn't what I said. You're a stupid liar. You couldn't even understand your own words!

It wasn't what I said asshole.

Let's get it down to a level even you might be capable of navigating.

My city has 10 policemen. The city government decides they need 12, so they hire 2 new policemen.

1. Are those 2 new jobs?
2. Did the city government create them?

 

[NYcarbineer]

I've heard many GOPers say they don't. However, I feel strongly that they do. All one has to do is think about it for a minute and the answer should become obvious. However, the biggest job creators are consumers with money to spend.

That's what's wrong, you "think about it for a minute" and go with the obvious and wrong answer. Liberalism in a nutshell, not thinking things through. An ideology which is well intentioned and poorly conceived.

What is evident if you actually think it through rather than cut off thinking in one minute is that all money spent by government was removed from the economy. That means every job created destroyed one and no job was created.

Then if you continue to think about it, you realize that government creates nothing. You took the money to fund the job from someone who used it to create a profit and grow the economy. Now you realize that every government job created destroyed more than one job.

And the best thing a government employee can do economically is nothing. But they don't, they create more red tape and bureaucracy for job creators. So now they are destroying even more than that.

So, you can think for one minute and believe the obvious, which is wrong. Or you can think it through and realize we need to reduce government jobs to create more jobs.

The government doesn't create anything?
Roads,bridges, parks, schools, water systems, a military, airports.....

Creates millions of jobs

It's funny to watch these people flounder trying to defend the indefensible because their cult leaders require it of them.

 

[danielpalos]

It is about labor having money to circulate in our economy; a steady paycheck can do that.

 

[Iceweasel]

lol, the same people who say the government doesn't create jobs also say we have too many people working for the government.

In other words, you are saying most government employees are unemployable in the private sector. You may have a point there.

You mean veterans? Why do you hate our troops?

That isn't what I said. You're a stupid liar. You couldn't even understand your own words!

It wasn't what I said asshole.

Let's get it down to a level even you might be capable of navigating.

My city has 10 policemen. The city government decides they need 12, so they hire 2 new policemen.

1. Are those 2 new jobs?
2. Did the city government create them?

You said "lol, the same people who say the government doesn't create jobs also say we have too many people working for the government."

That implies that those government employees wouldn't be working if it were not for government jobs. It isn't my fault that you can't process simple concepts. You saying I was talking about the military and that I hate them proves you are stupid and an asshole. I did not use those words lightly.

 

[Iceweasel]

It's funny to watch these people flounder trying to defend the indefensible because their cult leaders require it of them.

It's funny to read how you guys believe you are thinking.

 

[Iceweasel]

Government wasn't created to provide jobs. That's apparently part of liberal dogma. There are things that only government can do or should do, police, military, safety and security. We are clearly well beyond that and to pretend that those jobs cannot be done in the private sector or even necessary is just faith. Further evidence that liberalism is a religion.

 

[danielpalos]

Government wasn't created to provide jobs. That's apparently part of liberal dogma. There are things that only government can do or should do, police, military, safety and security. We are clearly well beyond that and to pretend that those jobs cannot be done in the private sector or even necessary is just faith. Further evidence that liberalism is a religion.

Yes, a public sector can create jobs through public policy decisions. FDR's brand of Socialism bailed out Capitalism, last millennium. Only the right has a problem with the concepts.

 

[Iceweasel]

Government wasn't created to provide jobs. That's apparently part of liberal dogma. There are things that only government can do or should do, police, military, safety and security. We are clearly well beyond that and to pretend that those jobs cannot be done in the private sector or even necessary is just faith. Further evidence that liberalism is a religion.

Yes, a public sector can create jobs through public policy decisions. FDR's brand of Socialism bailed out Capitalism, last millennium. Only the right has a problem with the concepts.

Wrong. He extended the great depression. You are apparently a product of public ed.

 

[rightwinger]

Government wasn't created to provide jobs. That's apparently part of liberal dogma. There are things that only government can do or should do, police, military, safety and security. We are clearly well beyond that and to pretend that those jobs cannot be done in the private sector or even necessary is just faith. Further evidence that liberalism is a religion.

Of course the government was not created to provide jobs....that makes no sense

The government was created to provide public services and those public services create jobs

 

[kaz]

I've heard many GOPers say they don't. However, I feel strongly that they do. All one has to do is think about it for a minute and the answer should become obvious. However, the biggest job creators are consumers with money to spend.

That's what's wrong, you "think about it for a minute" and go with the obvious and wrong answer. Liberalism in a nutshell, not thinking things through. An ideology which is well intentioned and poorly conceived.

What is evident if you actually think it through rather than cut off thinking in one minute is that all money spent by government was removed from the economy. That means every job created destroyed one and no job was created.

Then if you continue to think about it, you realize that government creates nothing. You took the money to fund the job from someone who used it to create a profit and grow the economy. Now you realize that every government job created destroyed more than one job.

And the best thing a government employee can do economically is nothing. But they don't, they create more red tape and bureaucracy for job creators. So now they are destroying even more than that.

So, you can think for one minute and believe the obvious, which is wrong. Or you can think it through and realize we need to reduce government jobs to create more jobs.

The government doesn't create anything?
Roads,bridges, parks, schools, water systems, a military, airports.....

Creates millions of jobs

Begging the question

 

[RKMBrown]

Word nit. The government "is" not us. It is from us, funded by some of us, elected by some of us, and staffed by some of us. Big difference. I know exactly what you mean but, the term "is" means the definition of the term follows.

It is not correct to say government creates jobs as if government is separate from "us" which is the implication proffered by some of the folks in the left. For example, the president saying you didn't build that... He implied government built that, not the taxpayers. Maybe he meant you didn't build that by yourself. But that's not how he said it, nor is it how it was taken.

However, you could say we create jobs with our money. We create some great works and some not so great works with out money. That works. Or you could say we create government jobs with our money. That works too.

If you want to say the government doesn't create jobs, We the People create jobs......go for it

Doesn't negate the fact that the government takes money from We the People to provide services. Those services create jobs

Taking the money destroys more jobs than the government "creates." You turds will never admit that.

Bottom line: the net number of jobs government creates is less than zero.

I'm sorry.......but discussing the merits of government with an anarchist is like discussing great restaurants with an anorexic

I always thought our soldiers, sailors, and airmen got paid. I didn't know they volunteered.

That doesn't mean government to them. They are only outraged about helping poor people

When did conservatives ever refuse to help anyone? You're just throwing crap against the wall when you say that.