Do European Leaders Want the Russia/Ukraine War to Continue, in Order to Weaken Russia?

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Russia grows weaker as the war goes on.

 

[GLASNOST]

Interesting. I thought it had started with the left's attempt to link Putin and Trump, but what you say makes more sense.

I guess it was the left jumping on the bandwagon, once again unwittingly a tool of the MIC, the silent or not so silent collaboration between politicians and arms manufacturers in which politicians are rewarded by the arms makers with donations and lucrative jobs as lobbyists or "consultants" upon retirement.

I'm old enough to remember when the left was quite enamored of Russia, then called the Soviet Union. Their intelligence agencies were sponsoring the Communist Party USA, and socialist professors and union organizers. Then into the sixties when the students taught by the socialists of the thirties had themselves become professors.

Here, in Sweden, the DDR (East Germany) was hailed as the most successful Warsaw Pact nation. I’ve been to all of the Eastern European countries during the Cold War and I, personally, saw nothing special about the DDR. It was just as grey (in every way) as any of the East European counties. I’m not knocking it but I damn sure am not praising it. Air pollution turned your snot black no matter what country you were in “over there”. But the minute the Sovjet Union collapsed the Swedish news was on the bandwagon, making believe “everyone” knew the DDR was shyt. Why did Sweden suddenly turn over? The bandwagon. Sweden wanted to play with the big boys and that is exactly what Sweden is doing today too. Gorbatjov became a hero and everyone loved him, both in the East and in the West. But it looks like Washington saw the danger of Socialist reform being recognised as superior to the Western model of Capitalism so they sent in their nasty agents to get Gorbatjov out and Yeltsin in. All hell broke lose in Russia - and many of the old school Communists all over the East - realized they’d been duped by the propaganda of Radio Free Europe and still today a great majority blame Gorbatjov for not being tough against the Yankees. Yes, Gorbatjov got the blame. Talk with the older generation from the East and you’ll see what I mean. The problem is that the Russians are having difficulties treading the maze of Stalin, Gorbatjov, and Yeltsin so many wish Stalin were back in power. Luckily for Russia, Putin came along to fix as much as possible. Western Europe however is caught in the same sort of dilemma as the East during the Cold War. The East was controlled by Stalinism/USSR and the West (today) is controlled by EU/NATO. Trump and Gorbatjov would have made a wonderful team but Trump and Putin is the best we can wish for.

 

[GLASNOST]

The Mad Midget already has already been officially retired .
He is now just acting out his Notice .

For a year already, isn't it?

As are the EU and Sir Queer Harmer ..

Useless twats the lot of them.

Nobody but Pooters has any qualificatiions to get anything out of Ukraine

That's probably true.

But he and Trumpfy have to work, out a deal which avoids Trumpfy looking to have "lost" .

Wise leaders know when to "play dumb" for the gallery as long as they secure the spoils behind the scenes. Example: How many people in the West are aware that Kennedy backed down to Kruschjev at the Cuba Missile Crisis? Right. Very few. Most still believe it was Russia that backed down.

Difficult but I imagine it all has to be a function of how they handle the Resources allocation and divide , with the announcement perhaps of some joint project to provide some apparent icing for a sagging cake .

There's no doubt about it. Trump and Putin understand one another. Zoolinsky can't even find the plunger to flush his toilette. He's beginning to understand that he's been duped by the big boys and he'll be whining & weeping in front of the camera any day now.

 

[luiza]

Russia grows weaker as the war goes on.

Shut up Troll Bot .

Eat your hay and don't neigh unless addressed .

You were the evil Horse that killed humans by lying about Ivermectin .

Bad Horse . Very bad Horse .

 

[GLASNOST]

Shut up Troll Bot .

Wouldn't that be nice?

 

[luiza]

Wouldn't that be nice?

Shall I put him on the list ?.
I can easily find out which farm he is stabled at .

His stall will be the one next to the donkeys .
A dash of cyanide on a few carrots should make him snort .

 

[GLASNOST]

Shall I put him on the list ?

I've already done. It's only your response(s) that I see.

 

[luiza]

I've already done. It's only your response(s) that I see.

I have no Ignores -- have always been soft about brainless animals .

My list is the secret Death List .
I'll get Intel to put him as high priority .
Of course when I say , "High" ,Horsey is actually only 14.2 hands high in real life
More like a Big Donkey .

 

[Ringo]

 

[GLASNOST]

I have no Ignores -

I have plenty.

- have always been soft about brainless animals .

I'm not very fond of scorpions or snakes.

Horsey is actually only 14.2 hands

Have you checked his teeth?

 

[Kruska]

Perhaps a Cold War for decades caused this. Plenty of blame in this world.

The Cold War was over in 1990 - then followed the totally unnecessary NATO Eastward-Expansion - that caused the Ukrainian war starting in 2014. And partially the war in Georgia in 2008.

Spare me Russia are angels BSs.

I never stated that they are - they simply demand an own sphere of influence, that so far the USA thought themselves to be the only ones on this planet, to have a right to. Trumps grab towards Greenland (an ally) Canada (an ally) & Panama is supported by people like you - but if it comes to Ukraine, that BORDERS Russia - then hypocrites like you show their true face.

 

[GLASNOST]

Anyone who's seen a few YouTube videos of car crashes knows not to try to intimidate Russia.

 

[Ringo]

 

[GLASNOST]

1). Zoolinsky was NOT Democratically elected.
2). Does the EU and NATO want a real war in Ukraine? Fine, send in the Swedes then we'll see what's what.

 

[Ringo]

Ask the destroyer of the NATO, Donald Trump.

 

[GLASNOST]

It's a protest against the genocide in Palestine not an overtake of Germany or the city.

 

[zaangalewa]

And what shows this? That everyone has the right of free opinion and to tell all Germans something in which language exactly? The only what I understood was "allahu akbar" what not menas "god is great" but "god is greater" as far as I know.

This was by the way a very little demonstration or meeting or picnic or whatever it really had been. An art project?

 

[Ringo]

And what shows this? That everyone has the right of free opinion

Quote from the book “An Ordinary Miracle”.
“My grandfather on my mother's side suddenly woke up in me. He was a sissy. He was so afraid of pain that at the slightest misfortune he would freeze, do nothing, and hope for the best. When his beloved wife was strangled in front of him, he stood beside her and persuaded her: bear with it, maybe everything will be all right.”

 

[zaangalewa]

Quote from the book “An Ordinary Miracle”.
“My grandfather on my mother's side suddenly woke up in me. ...

And what do you say here now except "No one has to take me serios"? Never any grandfather woke up in me. I am my grandfathers. One of them looked like "der Kraudn Sepp" - but he had only one eye. A hunting accident. When he was supposed to have a glass eye fitted, he disappeared for three days and came back with a guitar. So he lived to the end of his life without a glass eye - but also without an eye patch.

 

[Ringo]

And what do you say here now except "No one has to take me serios"? Never any grandfather woke up in me.

Who's a tedious person? It's a person who, when asked “How are you doing?” starts telling you in detail how he's doing.