Dissecting John Stossel's Anti-Communist Lies

The direct cause is always communism, not embargoes imposed by a capitalist empire,

I know. Communism is very fragile.

How will capitalism solve the quandary of advanced 21st-century automation technology replacing wage labor?

I don't know. How are your failed communists states going to solve it?
Getting invaded by four million Nazis and losing almost 30 million citizens and yet still surviving and becoming a world superpower is your definition of fragile? What communist country are you referring to as "fragile"? Are all countries the same and equal in their capacity to survive and defend themselves against capitalist imperial aggression? No. Everything you say about communism is disingenuous, thoughtless, shallow, devoid of goodwill, and often hypocritical.

To answer your question, a state isn't going to solve it, communism is. It's not another state or past state, it's modern, high-tech communism that is going to solve it. Capitalists are stumped, they don't have a solution to advance automation replacing wage-labor, we communists do.
 
Getting invaded by four million Nazis and losing almost 30 million citizens and yet still surviving and becoming a world superpower is your definition of fragile? What communist country are you referring to as "fragile"?

Aren't they all fragile? They can't survive when capitalists countries are mean to them.

To answer your question, a state isn't going to solve it, communism is.

Communism hasn't solved any issues yet. Why is it going to solve this one?

Capitalists are stumped, they don't have a solution to advance automation replacing wage-labor, we communists do.

Excellent! What is the commie solution?
 
Aren't they all fragile? They can't survive when capitalists countries are mean to them.

To answer your question, a state isn't going to solve it, communism is.

Communism hasn't solved any issues yet. Why is it going to solve this one?

Capitalists are stumped, they don't have a solution to advance automation replacing wage-labor, we communists do.

Excellent! What is the commie solution?

Think Todd, just because communism supposedly hasn't solved anything in the past, it doesn't imply that conditions won't exist in the future that will require a communist solution. Just because a tool hasn't solved anything for me in the past, doesn't really warrant me throwing it away, because I might need that tool in the future.

Communism is either primitive, present in hunter-gatherer societies...

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.. or in a very advanced, high-tech civilization.





It's at the opposite ends of the human evolutionary spectrum of production. We're now getting so advanced in the area of production that we will need to socialize and democratize it or we will become useless and forced into scarcity. Communism will become a necessity unless the working class wants to be consigned to the compost heap by the wealthy capitalist class. The solution is that you and I and everyone else, owns the means of production together, and we produce everything to meet our needs.

The paying consumer will be eliminated by technology, that's why all of these billionaires want to give everyone a government check or UBI i.e. Universal Basic Income. They see the writing on the wall and know that advanced automation will kill the market and strip them of their unique social status as capitalists. Essentially, they want the government (the public), to bail them out, again. A monthly UBI bailout, in order to stop the pitchforks from coming out when tens of millions of Americans start going hungry.

The solution is simple to identify, and harder to implement but doable and necessary (I'm not going to pretend it's going to be easy). The American people take common ownership of the means of production. We organize our economy in such a way that we employ technology (autonomous systems, robotics, artificial intelligence, self-driving vehicles, nanotechnology, supercomputers. etc) to produce everything that we consume without money or markets. The present profit motive of production has to be replaced with the common need of the people. We produce products and services, not to sell them, but rather simply to consume (use) them.

We will automate everything we can from the extraction of raw materials (mining), to the storage and delivery of the finished product. Each person that can work, will work 20 hours weekly supervising the system (the robots, the convoy of twenty self-driving 18-wheelers.etc). It's a complete restructuring of our economy, government, and society requiring a massive social movement that will provide guidance, education, resources, and everything needed for the American people to establish this new economic and political order. It's not going to be easy, but it has to be done.

No one will lose what they presently have as far as their homes, lands, and other properties. The right to own firearms, including combat rifles, along with ammunition will be respected. Right from the outset, those who claim the communist want to take away what they work so hard to acquire, are wrong. American communism respects people's human rights and their personal possessions, which include their homes, lands, and everything that is theirs.

The solution is American democratic communism. We all own the means of production together. We organize production to meet our needs.

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Think Todd, just because communism supposedly hasn't solved anything in the past, it doesn't imply that conditions won't exist in the future that will require a communist solution.

Could you BE any funnier?

Just because a tool hasn't solved anything for me in the past, doesn't really warrant me throwing it away, because I might need that tool in the future.

Just because the tool killed tens of millions and spread misery for a century doesn't mean it's a bad tool, that just makes it more likely it's the perfect tool. Automation might mean we NEED to kill even more people.

Death and misery might be just what the doctor ordered.
 
Could you BE any funnier?

Just because a tool hasn't solved anything for me in the past, doesn't really warrant me throwing it away, because I might need that tool in the future.

Just because the tool killed tens of millions and spread misery for a century doesn't mean it's a bad tool, that just makes it more likely it's the perfect tool. Automation might mean we NEED to kill even more people.

Death and misery might be just what the doctor ordered.

If you use a screwdriver to perform open heart surgery you will kill the patient. If you use the screwdriver to tighten a tiny screw in one of his prosthetic limbs or to fix the artificial joint in his knee, you will help him, maybe even save his life. Again, you're just being disingenuous, nasty, bitter, and completely ignoring everything I'm saying.

Let's not call what I am describing communism, let's call it something else and throw away the hammers and the sickles.

Capitalist imperialism has its fair share of dead corpses, does that by default invalidate or disqualify capitalism? Your reasoning is flawed and you're being hypocritical.
 
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Capitalism creates and Communism takes. Again, which way are the people of the world going, to communism or to freedom?
 
My friend, you have much to learn. It's clear that you understand very little of what you're regurgitating. As always, people who participate in coercion understand very little of their role in it. And absolutely nothing of its consequence. We see the phenomenon quite a bit with this current generation of social justice warriors. The major malfunction in repeating the exercise is that your entire worldview needs to be ditched and reworked before you're even capable of understanding the terms of controversy relevant to the shortcomings in what you're regurgitating.

I'll break it down for you country simple. Government is force. Any philosophy which starts by idealizing government will always end by idealizing subjugation. Always.

It's why Marx never put any effort into revealing or even hinting how the state would 'wither away' after the 'dictatorship of the proletariate' commenced.

Marx's philosophy of ''from each according to his ability, to each acording to his need' has always appealed to underinformed and undereducated social justice warriors. Trustees in the foolish notion that their need should be decided and met by the theoretical omniscient, benevolent state. You're not new. Nor are the very shallow, cookie-cutter points you're regurgitating. We've had this discussion many, many, many, many times around here. It always ends the same way.

Communism has killed over a hundred million people in the last cenury alone. East Germans, for example, were told that the Berlin Wall was to keep fascists out. Except that border guards were only killing East Germans heading west. that's what happens when you submit to the notion of limitless power by rulers.
The only way capitalism beats socialism is through sabotage, sanctions, embargoes, bombs, bullets..etc. This only works in the beginning but in the end, socialism will win.
 
Capitalism creates and Communism takes. Again, which way are the people of the world going, to communism or to freedom?

To freedom away from capitalism and to the public ownership of the means of production, a.k.a. communism. You can call it something else. I like to be precise, clear, straightforward, as honest as I can when having a discussion on these issues, hence I use scary, maligned, hated old terms like communism. However, we don't have to use those old terms, we can create new ones. Let's call it a "RESOURCED BASED ECONOMY", i.e. RBE. An American RBE.

We need to adopt an RBE, rather than a UBI (Universal Basic Income), which is the capitalist solution. RBE is better and it's truly freedom.

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The only way capitalism beats socialism is through sabotage, sanctions, embargoes, bombs, bullets..etc. This only works in the beginning but in the end, socialism will win.

And success.
Versus communism's failures.

"They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work"
 
And success.
Versus communism's failures.

"They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work"

There are plenty of capitalist failures as well. Plenty of capitalist-run failed states around the world, so your point is moot (the United States under capitalism has always failed without government bailouts and interventions, and of course wars). Since when does an economic and political ideology or system have to defeat all of its opponents in one decisive swoop of the sword? No trial and error, no lost battles, or even lost wars? Again, you're just dishonest and hypocritical.

I'm done here, going back-and-forth with the brainwashed sheep of capitalism. You can all have the last word now and delude yourselves into thinking you've won something.

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There are plenty of capitalist failures as well. Plenty of capitalist-run failed states around the world, so your point is moot (the United States under capitalism has always failed without government bailouts and interventions, and of course wars). Since when does an economic and political ideology or system have to defeat all of its opponents in one decisive swoop of the sword? No trial and error, no lost battles, or even lost wars? Again, you're just dishonest and hypocritical.

I'm done here, going back-and-forth with the brainwashed sheep of capitalism. You can all have the last word now and delude yourselves into thinking you've won something.



 
There are plenty of capitalist failures as well. Plenty of capitalist-run failed states around the world, so your point is moot (the United States under capitalism has always failed without government bailouts and interventions, and of course wars). Since when does an economic and political ideology or system have to defeat all of its opponents in one decisive swoop of the sword? No trial and error, no lost battles, or even lost wars? Again, you're just dishonest and hypocritical.

I'm done here, going back-and-forth with the brainwashed sheep of capitalism. You can all have the last word now and delude yourselves into thinking you've won something.

There may be capitalist failures but there are No communist or sociialist successes.

Your history of US economics is quite wrong. Capitalism succeeded here long before bailouts and modern wars.
 
To freedom away from capitalism and to the public ownership of the means of production, a.k.a. communism. You can call it something else. I like to be precise, clear, straightforward, as honest as I can when having a discussion on these issues, hence I use scary, maligned, hated old terms like communism. However, we don't have to use those old terms, we can create new ones. Let's call it a "RESOURCED BASED ECONOMY", i.e. RBE. An American RBE.

We need to adopt an RBE, rather than a UBI (Universal Basic Income), which is the capitalist solution. RBE is better and it's truly freedom.

Name any communist country on earth that meets your standard. Do people emigrate from that country to the US (assuming they don't get shot for trying), or do they emigrate from the US to that country?
 
Getting invaded by four million Nazis and losing almost 30 million citizens and yet still surviving and becoming a world superpower is your definition of fragile? What communist country are you referring to as "fragile"? Are all countries the same and equal in their capacity to survive and defend themselves against capitalist imperial aggression? No. Everything you say about communism is disingenuous, thoughtless, shallow, devoid of goodwill, and often hypocritical.

To answer your question, a state isn't going to solve it, communism is. It's not another state or past state, it's modern, high-tech communism that is going to solve it. Capitalists are stumped, they don't have a solution to advance automation replacing wage-labor, we communists do.

The Soviet Union was NEVER a "WORLD" superpower. It was a 'MILITARY' superpower.
 

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