Dissecting John Stossel's Anti-Communist Lies

It's estimated that as much as 50% of jobs could be replaced with advanced automation within the next 20 years:




In 40 years, we're looking at 80%+ of all paid jobs being replaced with technology. Those who argue that new jobs will be created are correct. New jobs will be created, but unfortunately, not enough jobs will be created to replace the ones that were lost. More, it's naive to think that most people can become highly paid technicians. It takes a special type of person, with a certain degree of intelligence and patience to repair and maintain technology. Not everyone can do that. If that wasn't enough, in the not-too-distant future we can see artificially intelligent robots, repairing and maintaining other robots. The autonomous systems will repair themselves, eliminating the need for human technitians.

Forget about communism and socialism. Those two words are scary and they carry too much historical baggage in the American mind. I shouldn't have named my nick, "communist front", I should've adopted a less provocative nick like "BobR2D2" or something like that. Then promote the idea of a Resource Based Economy / RBE, the nice way of saying communism, without all of the scary baggage. That's what the Venus Project did:








I'm stuck on Marxism, and communism because I'm an old man, but the younger generation will realize when they see tens of millions of Americans living in squalor because technology has rendered them useless and ready for the compost heap ("Soylent Green"), that America must adopt a new economic system of production. That new system of production, won't produce the products that we consume on a daily basis, for the purpose of private capital accumulation, i.e. profits.

Money, markets, profits, all of these instruments of value and exchange will be replaced by necessity, with a system that is designed to meet everyone's material needs. Elevating the standard of living of all Americans, completely eliminating material scarcity and poverty. The American people will own the machinery and facilities of production together (i.e. "collectively", although I should avoid using such terms because they sound too "Stalinistic"). Together, we will own the technology and resources as a community, organizing production to meet our material needs.

A resource-based economy or RBE will become the obvious solution to the crisis of mass unemployment and poverty as a result of high-tech, 21st-century automation replacing human wage labor. We will socialize and democratize production, meeting all of our needs. The alternative to what I've just described is a new form of feudalism and slavery, where the rich own everything, and the rest of us are sent to the "soylent green" factory:




What is the secret of soylent green? Hmmm?​




It is the socialist shitholes that will turn people into soylent green.

Remember, silly boy, you exist for the benefit of the State, in a socialist country.

Once you are no longer useful, you are toast.

As in dead and buried.
 
The shithole is from where you get your silly capitalist rhetoric about China and communism in general. Show us all how capitalism will solve the crises of advanced technology replacing wage labor. We're ready, go ahead.



In 25 years China is going to have a population under 650 million.

In 50 years, China is most likely no longer going to be a nation.

That's what happens with collectivist countries.

They eat themselves.
 
I've already explained the communist solution and it doesn't have anything to do with gulags. I'm asking you to provide us with your capitalist solution for the replacement of wage labor with advanced automation. Can you answer that question?

Right. Which is why every commie shithole had gulags.

Did you ever show proof that North Korea had a better economy than South Korea....ever?
 
The shithole is from where you get your silly capitalist rhetoric about China and communism in general. Show us all how capitalism will solve the crises of advanced technology replacing wage labor. We're ready, go ahead.


Did you explain why, in the 45 years after WWII, West Germany became a modern economy and East Germany thought Trabants were worth a 10 year wait?
 
Did you explain why, in the 45 years after WWII, West Germany became a modern economy and East Germany thought Trabants were worth a 10 year wait?

So capitalism apparently doesn't have a solution. You don't have a clue about how to resolve the elimination of wage labor with advanced automation. You will just shrug your shoulders and allow tens of millions, perhaps even hundreds of millions of Americans to become serfs to the wealthy who own everything, including the technology that replaced them in the workplace.

The solution to the elimination of wage labor by advanced 21st-century automation systems is the public ownership of the means of production. The American people take the reins of the state and the machinery and facilities of production. I gave a more detailed explanation of how this would be implemented in an earlier post on this thread. If you object, then provide us all with your capitalist solution to the elimination of wage labor by advanced technology. Enlighten us.

The Wikipedia link that was posted after you requested the link, admits that North Korea's GDP was higher than South Korea's until the 1980s. However, I've already explained to you that socialist countries are economically and militarily besieged by the United States and its vassals/allies, hence asserting that socialism doesn't work on the grounds that these countries struggled economically is misleading and disingenuous. Your line of argumentation is moot and without much merit.

According to Marx, a nation can transition from socialism to communism through a process that initially uses markets within the consumer goods sector. China is far from capitalist in view of the fact that the state owns all of the major centers of economic power (i.e. all of the heavy industries vital to China's national infrastructure), and has a centrally planned economy. All of the capitalists are under the heel of the state, whereas in a nation with an actual capitalist-run economy, the state is under the heel of the rich and powerful (privately owned corporations). Plutocracy or the rule of the rich is the natural course of governance for capitalist-run countries. China is far from that and every single billionaire in China has to pay their fair share of taxes.

If the United States becomes communist, it wouldn't have a United States Capitalist Superpower/Empire, threatening it with war, bombing it, invading it, and imposing economic and diplomatic sanctions and embargoes upon it. The communist USA would not have to worry about that, because it was the world capitalist hegemon and superpower that was doing most of the bullying against developing socialist nations. The US would be in a completely different situation if it adopted socialism than its previous socialist targets. No one is going to bully America around because it's decided to adopt socialism. The capitalist strongman and bully won't exist anymore, because he's converted to socialism.
 
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Because you're an ignorant little dope.
A dope is someone who can't argue their point without resorting to childish insults. Insults are the refuge of a weak argument, so think about that. You said you were Chinese, so I know you can think. Chinese people are quite smart.
 
No it's not, coward.

I will live here in order to turn America communist. Why would I leave, when I have the opportunity to be an activist right in the belly of the capitalist empire? I want this country to become communist. MUAHAHAHAHA!
 


Stossel Comes from Long Island, where he's a social butterfly. For all his "capitalism" hot air, when his 2.5 Mil Hamptons mansion was blown away years ago, he had no problem getting Gov't agencies to pay for the loss. Some say, he was "underinsured". He's the ultimate 'Bankster': "Socialism for me, capitalism for the peasants".



One point to prove how ignorant that SOB is. He said China is building the best electric vehicles that don't pollute, which we all know is total bullshit. The mining to produce the materials for the batteries is a big polluter. It take a lot of power to process those materials into batteries. And virtually all of the electricity in China comes from coal fired power plants and they're putting an average of another 2 a week in into service. All the rest of the components it takes to build a car require a lot of that coal fired power and mining as well. Oh and oil. You simplistic little assholes need to grow the fuck up.

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As you can see in the link you provided the GDP of North Korea/DPRK was always higher until the 1980s. Countries that openly identify their economies as Marxist or communist are always sanctioned and threatened with war. So whatever critique the defenders of capitalism have against socialism is moot, when the capitalist-run countries are encircling, threatening, and embargoing socialist economies. More, there are plenty of capitalist countries that are dirt poor, like Haiti, Uganda, and many others. There are also several countries with capitalist economies that are led by tyrant dictators. Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan..etc. Here is the list of dictatorships:



Most of the countries on that list have capitalist economies. So all of you just give the mud-slinging a break, because the mid sticks on you too. The socialists have had and have right now their own dictators, and communists have killed a lot of people. Yes yes, that's true, I won't deny it. But capitalist imperialism and colonialism have also killed millions as well. You're under the strong delusion that you have the moral high ground upon which to stand and condemn the communists. You don't. The mountain of dead rotting corpses is just as high for capitalism as it is for communism. Just as bad, if not worse. Give it a rest.

Saudi Arabia is a monarchy with a shura council.

North Korea is a dark, sad, dangerous place to live.
 
We have socialism now, in some aspects. So how can it be so bad?

Capitalism tempered with some socialism is a good thing. Look how many successful countries there are.
 
Did you explain why, in the 45 years after WWII, West Germany became a modern economy and East Germany thought Trabants were worth a 10 year wait?



Hey! The Trabant is one of the most under rated supercars of the era! It was green before green was a thing!

Other than its engine of course. That was very not green🤣
 
We have socialism now, in some aspects. So how can it be so bad?



Yes, we do. And in every state where it is taking hold you have terrible education, rampant crime, and suffering by the middle class.

DURRRRRR
 
Capitalism tempered with some socialism is a good thing. Look how many successful countries there are.



Here I agree with you. Capitalism generates the wealth that socialism requires. If the balance tilts beyond 75/25 capitalism/socialism though, troubles begin.
 
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