Different sides to the same story.

[Independent thinker]

“Quelling civil disturbances is the responsibility of state and local law enforcement except in the most extreme instances,” said Elizabeth Goitein, a senior director at the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University’s law school. “Having soldiers police protests, as this order envisions, threatens fundamental liberties and public safety, and it violates a centuries-old principle against involving the military in domestic law enforcement.”

Under an 1878 law called the Posse Comitatus Act, it is normally illegal to use federal troops on domestic soil for policing purposes. But Mr. Trump, in federalizing the California Guard, invoked a statute, Section 12406 of Title 10 of the U.S. Code, that allows him to call National Guard members and units into federal service under certain circumstances, including during a rebellion against the authority of the federal government.

Does this matter to you? Would it if a Dem prez was sending unwanted troops in to Repub controlled cities?

So you want murders in DC? Zero is too low of a number for you?

 

[DonGlock26]

So you want murders in DC? Zero is too low of a number for you?

The Left is a death cult.

 

[Independent thinker]

The Left is a death cult.

From death panels to death cults.

 

[berg80]

So you want murders in DC? Zero is too low of a number for you?

I'm with Ben.

Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

 

[Concerned American]

The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 is a federal law that generally prohibits the use of the U.S. Army and Air Force for domestic law enforcement. Its purpose is to maintain a separation between the military and civilian police functions. This prohibition also applies to the National Guard when it has been "federalized" and is acting under federal control.

Again, Educate yourself. It is legal and has been done many times in US history. Indeed, by none other than one of your own heeeeroes, FDR.

When Presidents Sent the National Guard Into U.S. Cities: A Complete History of Why, How, and Backlash

From Eisenhower and civil rights showdowns to Trump and modern protests, here’s every major time a president deployed troops for unrest — and what happened next.

brendonbeebe.substack.com

 

[berg80]

From death panels to death cults.

Wow, I haven't seen the death panel lie invoked in a long time. What an embarrassment for Grassley.......and you.

 

[Independent thinker]

I'm with Ben.

Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

You could have just simply replied, "Yes, I want more murders than zero".

 

[berg80]

It is legal and has been done many times in US history.

As I said, not under these circumstances. Like a fabricated emergency.

 

[FoghornLeghorn]

Trump’s DC takeover produces moderate drop in crime — and huge spike in immigration arrests​

In the first week after the White House effectively seized control of Washington, DC’s police force and deployed federal agents and troops to the district, the city saw a moderate drop in reported crime — and a far larger surge in arrests of immigrants, a CNN analysis of government data found.

In the week beginning August 12, the first full day the Trump administration had control of the Metropolitan Police Department, property crimes dropped roughly 19% compared to the week before, and violent crime dipped by about 17%, according to the most recent public data published by the MPD.

Those trends vary widely by types of crimes, however. While robberies and car break-ins were down by more than 40%, other thefts were flat week-to-week and there was a 6% increase in burglary cases and a 14% increase in cases of assault with a dangerous weapon, the data shows.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/23/politics/dc-crime-immigration-arrests-trump

DC arrests surpass 1,000 as Trump-backed crackdown enters 12th homicide-free day​

Arrests under President Donald Trump’s federal crime crackdown in Washington, D.C., have blown past 1,000 as the nation’s capital marked its 12th consecutive day without a homicide, U.S. Attorney Jeanine Pirro announced Monday.

Pirro said that on Sunday alone there were 86 arrests and 10 illegal guns seized, bringing the totals to 1,007 arrests and 111 guns taken off the streets.

"What does that mean? They can't be used to shoot people, to kill people," Pirro said Monday on "Fox & Friends," referring to the weapons seizures. "And on top of all of that, we've got a government now where the people in D.C. are feeling safer. They know that there is a president who's looking to protect them."

DC arrests surpass 1,000 as Trump-backed crackdown enters 12th homicide-free day

Arrests under President Trump’s federal crime crackdown in Washington, D.C., have surpassed 1,000 as the nation’s capital marked its 12th consecutive day without a homicide, U.S. Attorney Jeanine Pirro announced Monday.

www.foxnews.com

In Washington Crackdown, Making a Federal Case Out of Low-Level Arrests​

As President Trump posed triumphantly for photos with police officers, government agents and members of the National Guard in Southeast Washington last week, lawyers across town in federal court grappled with his new brand of justice.

The stream of defendants who shuffled through a federal courtroom on Thursday afternoon illustrated the new ways in which laws are being enforced in the nation’s capital after the president’s takeover of the city’s police. They were appearing before a magistrate judge on charges that would typically be handled at the local court level, if they were filed at all.

One man had been arrested over an open container of alcohol. Another had been charged with threatening the president after delivering a drunken outburst following his arrest on vandalism. And one defendant’s gun case so alarmed prosecutors that they intend to drop the case.

Mr. Trump has cast his crackdown on crime as a success, and suggested on Friday that it was a blueprint he would seek to apply to other cities, including Chicago. To defense lawyers and even some prosecutors, though, many of the cases that have landed in court have raised concerns that the takeover seems intended to artificially inflate its effect because government lawyers have been instructed to file the most serious federal charges, no matter how minor the incident.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/24/us/politics/trump-dc-crime-takeover-federal-court.html

Supermajority of Washington residents oppose Trump’s police takeover, poll finds​

Just 17 percent of residents backed the effort to federalize the city‘s police department and deploy federal law enforcement officers.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/20/dc-trump-police-poll-00515947

It's complicated. Some crime is down, some is up. There have been no homicides for 12 days. The number of arrests is up but it's in part because of inflated numbers due to over zealousness. To the extent polls are accurate one shows the vast majority oppose the takeover.

Power
Definition:
The capacity or ability to influence or compel the behavior of others.

Authority
Definition:
The legitimate and formal right to give commands, make decisions, and exert power.

Technically, trump has both the power and authority to have sent armed troops in to DC.

After midnight on Aug. 19, Mr. Bigelow was sitting in the middle row of a van parked on a street in Northeast Washington with its doors open, according to court papers. Two other men were in the front when a full complement of law enforcement officials — from the Metropolitan Police Department, the F.B.I., the Drug Enforcement Administration, Immigration and Customs Enforcement and the State Department’s Diplomatic Security Service — stopped and saw what appeared to be an open container of alcohol in the front seat.

As law enforcement questioned and searched the two other passengers, Mr. Bigelow left the van and started to walk away, until other agents stopped him, according to the charging document. Peering into the van, an officer spotted “a second cup containing an alcoholic beverage in the middle row seat,” at which point Mr. Bigelow was arrested on charges of possession of an open container, a misdemeanor.

As he was placed in a vehicle, the handcuffed Mr. Bigelow became belligerent, twisting his body and yelling, “Get off me! Y’all too little, bro!” at an ICE agent, according to a court filing, which described how Mr. Bigelow made “physical contact” by kicking an agent in the hand and another in the leg.

As a result, Mr. Bigelow was charged with assaulting, resisting or impeding a federal officer, an offense that carries a maximum sentence of eight years in prison.

Did that make DC safer? Is sending the military in to urban areas of the country what people voted for in Nov.? There's a reason this sort of thing is happening during this presidency after never having happened before under similar circumstances in the nation's history.

You're dumb and dishonest. CNN?

 

[Concerned American]

As I said, not under these circumstances. Like a fabricated emergency.

Crime in DC was out of control and the current mayor didn't disagree when she rolled over for Trump to bring order back into that city. BTW, in case you didn't know it, the District of Columbia isn't a state--it is an autonomous FEDERAL district.

 

[berg80]

You could have just simply replied, "Yes, I want more murders than zero".

You could have just said, "I want to live in a country where the leader of the federal government decides how every city in the country is policed."

President Trump directed the Defense Department on Monday to take a larger role in domestic law enforcement, including by “quelling civil disturbances,” as he threatens to broaden deployments of the National Guard in cities run by his political enemies.

The executive order, released by the White House on Monday morning, also formalizes the creation of specially trained National Guard units in the District of Columbia and all 50 states that can be mobilized quickly for “ensuring the public safety and order.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/25/us/politics/trump-national-guard.html

 

[berg80]

Crime in DC was out of control

Nope. But that is the dishonest pretense trump used to justify the takeover.

 

[berg80]

You're dumb and dishonest. CNN?

If you don't like the facts don't shoot the messenger.

 

[Concerned American]

You could have just said, "I want to live in a country where the leader of the federal government decides how every city in the country is run."

He was elected to bring order to the chaos that four years of democrat idiocy produced. He is doing what he was elected to do. Troubling that you would rather live under anarchy than under peace, freedom and order.

 

[berg80]

He was elected to bring order to the chaos that four years of democrat idiocy produced.

He was elected to increase border security and because he promised to eliminate inflation. He's 1 for 2.

 

[Concerned American]

He was elected to increase border security and because he promised to eliminate inflation. He's 1 for 2.

And that, sir, is why you shouldn't be allowed to vote. That you think there were only two major screw ups that Americans wanted him to right shows exactly how ignorant you are of the situations that the democrats saddled this country with in four short years.

 

[FoghornLeghorn]

If you don't like the facts don't shoot the messenger.

CNN is the Deep State's parrot - and so are you.

 

[berg80]

And that, sir, is why you shouldn't be allowed to vote. That you think there were only two major screw ups that Americans wanted him to right shows exactly how ignorant you are of the situations that the democrats saddled this country with in four short years.

Not what I said. Immigration and inflation, according to polls, were the most animating issues in the election.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Trump’s DC takeover produces moderate drop in crime — and huge spike in immigration arrests​

In the first week after the White House effectively seized control of Washington, DC’s police force and deployed federal agents and troops to the district, the city saw a moderate drop in reported crime — and a far larger surge in arrests of immigrants, a CNN analysis of government data found.

In the week beginning August 12, the first full day the Trump administration had control of the Metropolitan Police Department, property crimes dropped roughly 19% compared to the week before, and violent crime dipped by about 17%, according to the most recent public data published by the MPD.

Those trends vary widely by types of crimes, however. While robberies and car break-ins were down by more than 40%, other thefts were flat week-to-week and there was a 6% increase in burglary cases and a 14% increase in cases of assault with a dangerous weapon, the data shows.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/23/politics/dc-crime-immigration-arrests-trump

DC arrests surpass 1,000 as Trump-backed crackdown enters 12th homicide-free day​

Arrests under President Donald Trump’s federal crime crackdown in Washington, D.C., have blown past 1,000 as the nation’s capital marked its 12th consecutive day without a homicide, U.S. Attorney Jeanine Pirro announced Monday.

Pirro said that on Sunday alone there were 86 arrests and 10 illegal guns seized, bringing the totals to 1,007 arrests and 111 guns taken off the streets.

"What does that mean? They can't be used to shoot people, to kill people," Pirro said Monday on "Fox & Friends," referring to the weapons seizures. "And on top of all of that, we've got a government now where the people in D.C. are feeling safer. They know that there is a president who's looking to protect them."

DC arrests surpass 1,000 as Trump-backed crackdown enters 12th homicide-free day

Arrests under President Trump’s federal crime crackdown in Washington, D.C., have surpassed 1,000 as the nation’s capital marked its 12th consecutive day without a homicide, U.S. Attorney Jeanine Pirro announced Monday.

www.foxnews.com

In Washington Crackdown, Making a Federal Case Out of Low-Level Arrests​

As President Trump posed triumphantly for photos with police officers, government agents and members of the National Guard in Southeast Washington last week, lawyers across town in federal court grappled with his new brand of justice.

The stream of defendants who shuffled through a federal courtroom on Thursday afternoon illustrated the new ways in which laws are being enforced in the nation’s capital after the president’s takeover of the city’s police. They were appearing before a magistrate judge on charges that would typically be handled at the local court level, if they were filed at all.

One man had been arrested over an open container of alcohol. Another had been charged with threatening the president after delivering a drunken outburst following his arrest on vandalism. And one defendant’s gun case so alarmed prosecutors that they intend to drop the case.

Mr. Trump has cast his crackdown on crime as a success, and suggested on Friday that it was a blueprint he would seek to apply to other cities, including Chicago. To defense lawyers and even some prosecutors, though, many of the cases that have landed in court have raised concerns that the takeover seems intended to artificially inflate its effect because government lawyers have been instructed to file the most serious federal charges, no matter how minor the incident.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/24/us/politics/trump-dc-crime-takeover-federal-court.html

Supermajority of Washington residents oppose Trump’s police takeover, poll finds​

Just 17 percent of residents backed the effort to federalize the city‘s police department and deploy federal law enforcement officers.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/20/dc-trump-police-poll-00515947

It's complicated. Some crime is down, some is up. There have been no homicides for 12 days. The number of arrests is up but it's in part because of inflated numbers due to over zealousness. To the extent polls are accurate one shows the vast majority oppose the takeover.

Power
Definition:
The capacity or ability to influence or compel the behavior of others.

Authority
Definition:
The legitimate and formal right to give commands, make decisions, and exert power.

Technically, trump has both the power and authority to have sent armed troops in to DC.

After midnight on Aug. 19, Mr. Bigelow was sitting in the middle row of a van parked on a street in Northeast Washington with its doors open, according to court papers. Two other men were in the front when a full complement of law enforcement officials — from the Metropolitan Police Department, the F.B.I., the Drug Enforcement Administration, Immigration and Customs Enforcement and the State Department’s Diplomatic Security Service — stopped and saw what appeared to be an open container of alcohol in the front seat.

As law enforcement questioned and searched the two other passengers, Mr. Bigelow left the van and started to walk away, until other agents stopped him, according to the charging document. Peering into the van, an officer spotted “a second cup containing an alcoholic beverage in the middle row seat,” at which point Mr. Bigelow was arrested on charges of possession of an open container, a misdemeanor.

As he was placed in a vehicle, the handcuffed Mr. Bigelow became belligerent, twisting his body and yelling, “Get off me! Y’all too little, bro!” at an ICE agent, according to a court filing, which described how Mr. Bigelow made “physical contact” by kicking an agent in the hand and another in the leg.

As a result, Mr. Bigelow was charged with assaulting, resisting or impeding a federal officer, an offense that carries a maximum sentence of eight years in prison.

Did that make DC safer? Is sending the military in to urban areas of the country what people voted for in Nov.? There's a reason this sort of thing is happening during this presidency after never having happened before under similar circumstances in the nation's history.

Take 111 guns off the streets and someone will just steal some more.

 

[berg80]

If Dotard were really concerned with crime he would not have pardoned violent Jan. 6 criminals. He would seek to pass gun control legislation. He would not have cut funding for the police.