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Trump’s DC takeover produces moderate drop in crime — and huge spike in immigration arrests​

In the first week after the White House effectively seized control of Washington, DC’s police force and deployed federal agents and troops to the district, the city saw a moderate drop in reported crime — and a far larger surge in arrests of immigrants, a CNN analysis of government data found.

In the week beginning August 12, the first full day the Trump administration had control of the Metropolitan Police Department, property crimes dropped roughly 19% compared to the week before, and violent crime dipped by about 17%, according to the most recent public data published by the MPD.

Those trends vary widely by types of crimes, however. While robberies and car break-ins were down by more than 40%, other thefts were flat week-to-week and there was a 6% increase in burglary cases and a 14% increase in cases of assault with a dangerous weapon, the data shows.

DC arrests surpass 1,000 as Trump-backed crackdown enters 12th homicide-free day​

Arrests under President Donald Trump’s federal crime crackdown in Washington, D.C., have blown past 1,000 as the nation’s capital marked its 12th consecutive day without a homicide, U.S. Attorney Jeanine Pirro announced Monday.

Pirro said that on Sunday alone there were 86 arrests and 10 illegal guns seized, bringing the totals to 1,007 arrests and 111 guns taken off the streets.

"What does that mean? They can't be used to shoot people, to kill people," Pirro said Monday on "Fox & Friends," referring to the weapons seizures. "And on top of all of that, we've got a government now where the people in D.C. are feeling safer. They know that there is a president who's looking to protect them."

In Washington Crackdown, Making a Federal Case Out of Low-Level Arrests​

As President Trump posed triumphantly for photos with police officers, government agents and members of the National Guard in Southeast Washington last week, lawyers across town in federal court grappled with his new brand of justice.

The stream of defendants who shuffled through a federal courtroom on Thursday afternoon illustrated the new ways in which laws are being enforced in the nation’s capital after the president’s takeover of the city’s police. They were appearing before a magistrate judge on charges that would typically be handled at the local court level, if they were filed at all.

One man had been arrested over an open container of alcohol. Another had been charged with threatening the president after delivering a drunken outburst following his arrest on vandalism. And one defendant’s gun case so alarmed prosecutors that they intend to drop the case.

Mr. Trump has cast his crackdown on crime as a success, and suggested on Friday that it was a blueprint he would seek to apply to other cities, including Chicago. To defense lawyers and even some prosecutors, though, many of the cases that have landed in court have raised concerns that the takeover seems intended to artificially inflate its effect because government lawyers have been instructed to file the most serious federal charges, no matter how minor the incident.


Supermajority of Washington residents oppose Trump’s police takeover, poll finds​

Just 17 percent of residents backed the effort to federalize the city‘s police department and deploy federal law enforcement officers.

It's complicated. Some crime is down, some is up. There have been no homicides for 12 days. The number of arrests is up but it's in part because of inflated numbers due to over zealousness. To the extent polls are accurate one shows the vast majority oppose the takeover.

Power
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The capacity or ability to influence or compel the behavior of others.

Authority
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The legitimate and formal right to give commands, make decisions, and exert power.

Technically, trump has both the power and authority to have sent armed troops in to DC.

After midnight on Aug. 19, Mr. Bigelow was sitting in the middle row of a van parked on a street in Northeast Washington with its doors open, according to court papers. Two other men were in the front when a full complement of law enforcement officials — from the Metropolitan Police Department, the F.B.I., the Drug Enforcement Administration, Immigration and Customs Enforcement and the State Department’s Diplomatic Security Service — stopped and saw what appeared to be an open container of alcohol in the front seat.

As law enforcement questioned and searched the two other passengers, Mr. Bigelow left the van and started to walk away, until other agents stopped him, according to the charging document. Peering into the van, an officer spotted “a second cup containing an alcoholic beverage in the middle row seat,” at which point Mr. Bigelow was arrested on charges of possession of an open container, a misdemeanor.

As he was placed in a vehicle, the handcuffed Mr. Bigelow became belligerent, twisting his body and yelling, “Get off me! Y’all too little, bro!” at an ICE agent, according to a court filing, which described how Mr. Bigelow made “physical contact” by kicking an agent in the hand and another in the leg.

As a result, Mr. Bigelow was charged with assaulting, resisting or impeding a federal officer, an offense that carries a maximum sentence of eight years in prison.


Did that make DC safer? Is sending the military in to urban areas of the country what people voted for in Nov.? There's a reason this sort of thing is happening during this presidency after never having happened before under similar circumstances in the nation's history.
 
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Trump’s DC takeover produces moderate drop in crime — and huge spike in immigration arrests​

In the first week after the White House effectively seized control of Washington, DC’s police force and deployed federal agents and troops to the district, the city saw a moderate drop in reported crime — and a far larger surge in arrests of immigrants, a CNN analysis of government data found.

In the week beginning August 12, the first full day the Trump administration had control of the Metropolitan Police Department, property crimes dropped roughly 19% compared to the week before, and violent crime dipped by about 17%, according to the most recent public data published by the MPD.

Those trends vary widely by types of crimes, however. While robberies and car break-ins were down by more than 40%, other thefts were flat week-to-week and there was a 6% increase in burglary cases and a 14% increase in cases of assault with a dangerous weapon, the data shows.

DC arrests surpass 1,000 as Trump-backed crackdown enters 12th homicide-free day​

Arrests under President Donald Trump’s federal crime crackdown in Washington, D.C., have blown past 1,000 as the nation’s capital marked its 12th consecutive day without a homicide, U.S. Attorney Jeanine Pirro announced Monday.

Pirro said that on Sunday alone there were 86 arrests and 10 illegal guns seized, bringing the totals to 1,007 arrests and 111 guns taken off the streets.

"What does that mean? They can't be used to shoot people, to kill people," Pirro said Monday on "Fox & Friends," referring to the weapons seizures. "And on top of all of that, we've got a government now where the people in D.C. are feeling safer. They know that there is a president who's looking to protect them."

In Washington Crackdown, Making a Federal Case Out of Low-Level Arrests​

As President Trump posed triumphantly for photos with police officers, government agents and members of the National Guard in Southeast Washington last week, lawyers across town in federal court grappled with his new brand of justice.

The stream of defendants who shuffled through a federal courtroom on Thursday afternoon illustrated the new ways in which laws are being enforced in the nation’s capital after the president’s takeover of the city’s police. They were appearing before a magistrate judge on charges that would typically be handled at the local court level, if they were filed at all.

One man had been arrested over an open container of alcohol. Another had been charged with threatening the president after delivering a drunken outburst following his arrest on vandalism. And one defendant’s gun case so alarmed prosecutors that they intend to drop the case.

Mr. Trump has cast his crackdown on crime as a success, and suggested on Friday that it was a blueprint he would seek to apply to other cities, including Chicago. To defense lawyers and even some prosecutors, though, many of the cases that have landed in court have raised concerns that the takeover seems intended to artificially inflate its effect because government lawyers have been instructed to file the most serious federal charges, no matter how minor the incident.


Supermajority of Washington residents oppose Trump’s police takeover, poll finds​

Just 17 percent of residents backed the effort to federalize the city‘s police department and deploy federal law enforcement officers.

It's complicated. Some crime is down, some is up. There have been no homicides for 12 days. The number of arrests is up but it's in part due to inflated numbers due to over zealousness. To the extent polls are accurate one shows the vast majority oppose the takeover.

Power
Definition:
The capacity or ability to influence or compel the behavior of others.

Authority
Definition:
The legitimate and formal right to give commands, make decisions, and exert power.

Technically, trump has both the power and authority to have sent armed troops in to DC.

After midnight on Aug. 19, Mr. Bigelow was sitting in the middle row of a van parked on a street in Northeast Washington with its doors open, according to court papers. Two other men were in the front when a full complement of law enforcement officials — from the Metropolitan Police Department, the F.B.I., the Drug Enforcement Administration, Immigration and Customs Enforcement and the State Department’s Diplomatic Security Service — stopped and saw what appeared to be an open container of alcohol in the front seat.

As law enforcement questioned and searched the two other passengers, Mr. Bigelow left the van and started to walk away, until other agents stopped him, according to the charging document. Peering into the van, an officer spotted “a second cup containing an alcoholic beverage in the middle row seat,” at which point Mr. Bigelow was arrested on charges of possession of an open container, a misdemeanor.

As he was placed in a vehicle, the handcuffed Mr. Bigelow became belligerent, twisting his body and yelling, “Get off me! Y’all too little, bro!” at an ICE agent, according to a court filing, which described how Mr. Bigelow made “physical contact” by kicking an agent in the hand and another in the leg.

As a result, Mr. Bigelow was charged with assaulting, resisting or impeding a federal officer, an offense that carries a maximum sentence of eight years in prison.


Did that make DC safer? Is sending the military in to urban areas of the country what people voted for in Nov.? There's a reason this sort of thing is happening during this presidency after never having happened before under similar circumstances in the nation's history.

^^^Look how angry the 19%ers are that President Trump is making our cities safe again.

LOL
 
Home Rule needs to be revoked in DC.
DC is the nation's capitol, it needs to be a showplace, where can safely walk the streets, not a crime ridden shit-hole.
Trump's federalizing the police shows that crime can be reduced by removing criminals and illegal guns.
 
No murders in nearly two weeks is a "moderate drop in crime".

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Trump’s DC takeover produces moderate drop in crime — and huge spike in immigration arrests​

In the first week after the White House effectively seized control of Washington, DC’s police force and deployed federal agents and troops to the district, the city saw a moderate drop in reported crime — and a far larger surge in arrests of immigrants, a CNN analysis of government data found.

In the week beginning August 12, the first full day the Trump administration had control of the Metropolitan Police Department, property crimes dropped roughly 19% compared to the week before, and violent crime dipped by about 17%, according to the most recent public data published by the MPD.

Those trends vary widely by types of crimes, however. While robberies and car break-ins were down by more than 40%, other thefts were flat week-to-week and there was a 6% increase in burglary cases and a 14% increase in cases of assault with a dangerous weapon, the data shows.

DC arrests surpass 1,000 as Trump-backed crackdown enters 12th homicide-free day​

Arrests under President Donald Trump’s federal crime crackdown in Washington, D.C., have blown past 1,000 as the nation’s capital marked its 12th consecutive day without a homicide, U.S. Attorney Jeanine Pirro announced Monday.

Pirro said that on Sunday alone there were 86 arrests and 10 illegal guns seized, bringing the totals to 1,007 arrests and 111 guns taken off the streets.

"What does that mean? They can't be used to shoot people, to kill people," Pirro said Monday on "Fox & Friends," referring to the weapons seizures. "And on top of all of that, we've got a government now where the people in D.C. are feeling safer. They know that there is a president who's looking to protect them."

In Washington Crackdown, Making a Federal Case Out of Low-Level Arrests​

As President Trump posed triumphantly for photos with police officers, government agents and members of the National Guard in Southeast Washington last week, lawyers across town in federal court grappled with his new brand of justice.

The stream of defendants who shuffled through a federal courtroom on Thursday afternoon illustrated the new ways in which laws are being enforced in the nation’s capital after the president’s takeover of the city’s police. They were appearing before a magistrate judge on charges that would typically be handled at the local court level, if they were filed at all.

One man had been arrested over an open container of alcohol. Another had been charged with threatening the president after delivering a drunken outburst following his arrest on vandalism. And one defendant’s gun case so alarmed prosecutors that they intend to drop the case.

Mr. Trump has cast his crackdown on crime as a success, and suggested on Friday that it was a blueprint he would seek to apply to other cities, including Chicago. To defense lawyers and even some prosecutors, though, many of the cases that have landed in court have raised concerns that the takeover seems intended to artificially inflate its effect because government lawyers have been instructed to file the most serious federal charges, no matter how minor the incident.


Supermajority of Washington residents oppose Trump’s police takeover, poll finds​

Just 17 percent of residents backed the effort to federalize the city‘s police department and deploy federal law enforcement officers.

It's complicated. Some crime is down, some is up. There have been no homicides for 12 days. The number of arrests is up but it's in part due to inflated numbers due to over zealousness. To the extent polls are accurate one shows the vast majority oppose the takeover.

Power
Definition:
The capacity or ability to influence or compel the behavior of others.

Authority
Definition:
The legitimate and formal right to give commands, make decisions, and exert power.

Technically, trump has both the power and authority to have sent armed troops in to DC.

After midnight on Aug. 19, Mr. Bigelow was sitting in the middle row of a van parked on a street in Northeast Washington with its doors open, according to court papers. Two other men were in the front when a full complement of law enforcement officials — from the Metropolitan Police Department, the F.B.I., the Drug Enforcement Administration, Immigration and Customs Enforcement and the State Department’s Diplomatic Security Service — stopped and saw what appeared to be an open container of alcohol in the front seat.

As law enforcement questioned and searched the two other passengers, Mr. Bigelow left the van and started to walk away, until other agents stopped him, according to the charging document. Peering into the van, an officer spotted “a second cup containing an alcoholic beverage in the middle row seat,” at which point Mr. Bigelow was arrested on charges of possession of an open container, a misdemeanor.

As he was placed in a vehicle, the handcuffed Mr. Bigelow became belligerent, twisting his body and yelling, “Get off me! Y’all too little, bro!” at an ICE agent, according to a court filing, which described how Mr. Bigelow made “physical contact” by kicking an agent in the hand and another in the leg.

As a result, Mr. Bigelow was charged with assaulting, resisting or impeding a federal officer, an offense that carries a maximum sentence of eight years in prison.


Did that make DC safer? Is sending the military in to urban areas of the country what people voted for in Nov.? There's a reason this sort of thing is happening during this presidency after never having happened before under similar circumstances in the nation's history.
Are you opposed to the fact that there have been NO HOMICIDES in 12 days? Only a democrat would think like that.
 
Looks like the crime reduction efforts have worked out well.
 
Are you opposed to the fact that there have been NO HOMICIDES in 12 days? Only a democrat would think like that.
You asked me a question and then answered it yourself. I bet you win every debate you have..........with you.

It comes as no surprise that a greater police presence results in less crime. But is it feasible, or desirable, to have the US military walking the streets of our cities on a permanent basis? Also, does the law ever matter to trump or you folks, his supporters?

Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army, the Navy, the Marine Corps, the Air Force, or the Space Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.
 
You asked me a question and then answered it yourself.
You really aren't literate are you. I made a statement of fact. It was not an answer to my question. Now would you care to answer the question that you deflected? Are you opposed to 12 days with no homicides? A simple yes or no is all that is required. No need for a replay of War and Peace.
 
Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army, the Navy, the Marine Corps, the Air Force, or the Space Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.
The National Guard is none of those branches that you noted and it is there for domestic security as needed. Educate yourself. Verbosity is not an indicator of intelligence.
 
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It comes as no surprise that a greater police presence results in less crime. But is it feasible, or desirable, to have the US military walking the streets of our cities on a permanent basis? Also, does the law ever matter to trump or you folks, his supporters?
Who said anything about “permanent?”

Are there many more fictional supports for you alarm?
Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army, the Navy, the Marine Corps, the Air Force, or the Space Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.
An exception IS provided by Congressional Act. So your partial quotation of law is irrelevant. As usual.
 
But but but but but, crime had been down in DC.
“Quelling civil disturbances is the responsibility of state and local law enforcement except in the most extreme instances,” said Elizabeth Goitein, a senior director at the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University’s law school. “Having soldiers police protests, as this order envisions, threatens fundamental liberties and public safety, and it violates a centuries-old principle against involving the military in domestic law enforcement.”

Under an 1878 law called the Posse Comitatus Act, it is normally illegal to use federal troops on domestic soil for policing purposes. But Mr. Trump, in federalizing the California Guard, invoked a statute, Section 12406 of Title 10 of the U.S. Code, that allows him to call National Guard members and units into federal service under certain circumstances, including during a rebellion against the authority of the federal government.


Does this matter to you? Would it if a Dem prez was sending unwanted troops in to Repub controlled cities?
 
The National Guard is none of those branches that you noted and it is there for domestic security as needed. Educate yourself. Verbosity is not an indicator of intelligence.
The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 is a federal law that generally prohibits the use of the U.S. Army and Air Force for domestic law enforcement. Its purpose is to maintain a separation between the military and civilian police functions. This prohibition also applies to the National Guard when it has been "federalized" and is acting under federal control.
 
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