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Yeah, struth wasn't talking about any of that shit, when you decided to "reply" to him.
So, I ask AGAIN, what was the supposed "problem" with his reasoning, that you felt so strongly about, but could not.... even address?
I think you are just throwing shit against a wall, like a monkey.
Ok. You want to talk about the CLEAN BREAK STRATEGY.
Tell us why you think it is important first.
Liberals lie. It is a fundamental part of being liberals. Indeed, is a tautology to say that liberals lie.
tau·tol·o·gy
noun
- the saying of the same thing twice in different words, generally considered to be a fault of style (e.g., they arrived one after the other in succession ).
You are actually edging up on asking a real question
All my questions are real. You are welcome to answer any one of them when you get done pissing and moaning all over this thread.
Newt Gingrich and Charles Krauthammer made a convincing argument and got me to believe that an Arab population was ready to support a democratic government, and that such a functioning nation in the middle of the ME would be our answer to Islam.
Bibi wanted Saddam gone and Syria isolated and destabilized in 1996.. The Brits began Operation Mass Appeal in 1997 to churn out propaganda and sell the war.
In 1998 the Dual citizenship signatories of the PNAC tried to push Bill Clinton into invading Iraq.. He was too smart for them.. Bush hired a bunch of them to his cabinet.
Did Gingrich convince you that the Iraq invasion was a failure when he openly began informing the public that it was going to be a failure in December 2003?
*** FMR. REP. GINGRICH: Well, the war’s a failure in part because the strategy, as I told you on this show in December of ‘03, has been wrong consistently, it’s been a strategy that was far too American.
*** Second, it’s a, it’s a failure because the instruments of national power don’t work. And it’s important to understand we all focus on Maliki’s government. The, the Baker-Hamilton Commission reports that out of 1,000 people in the American Embassy, 33 speak Arabic, eight of them fluently. Now, at some point we have to have a national conversation about the fact that, outside of the uniform military, none of the instruments of national power work, and they need to be fundamentally overhauled. This isn’t about policy.
I'm not a liberal and Saddam didn't try to kill Papa Bush.. Dubya was pumping out excuses... like the cat ate my homework.. His father disapproved of invading Iraq.
Iraq had been chased out of Kuwait.. That was enough.
It was a very stupid, irresponsible move on Dubya's part, but he sure wanted to be liked by Blair and the Israelis.
All my questions are real. You are welcome to answer any one of them when you get done pissing and moaning all over this thread.
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Prince Bandar tried and tried to dissuade Bush from invading Iraq. When he failed, the SAG recalled him to Arabia.
His father disagreed. Bill Clinton had a policy of fucking with Iraq though his whole time in office. That was not peace. That was brinksmanship.
From both sides. Saddam was playing the same game from the other side.
Did Gingrich convince you that the Iraq invasion was a failure when he openly began informing the public that it was going to be a failure in December 2003?
*** FMR. REP. GINGRICH: Well, the war’s a failure in part because the strategy, as I told you on this show in December of ‘03, has been wrong consistently, it’s been a strategy that was far too American.
*** Second, it’s a, it’s a failure because the instruments of national power don’t work. And it’s important to understand we all focus on Maliki’s government. The, the Baker-Hamilton Commission reports that out of 1,000 people in the American Embassy, 33 speak Arabic, eight of them fluently. Now, at some point we have to have a national conversation about the fact that, outside of the uniform military, none of the instruments of national power work, and they need to be fundamentally overhauled. This isn’t about policy.
Arabs, oil men, diplomats, historians, and American expats in the ME all opposed Bush's invasion.
Do you know what the Dual Containment Policy was?
In early December 1998, the biggest news concerned impending congressional proceedings on the impeachment of Clinton. The question was scheduled for House floor debate on Thursday, the 17th. Voting appeared likely the next day.
On Wednesday, the 16th, Clinton again bombed Iraq, falsely claiming it was not cooperating with UN inspectors. Consequently the House postponed the impeachment matter for a day and Iraq took over the headlines. Killing a couple of hundred Iraqis, the bombings continued until impeachment was voted December 19.
The Studio Actors Guild has no real power. Who are you trying to fool?
Like I said, Brinksmanship, not peace. So, what is your point?
SAG is Saudi Arab Government. You don't know who Bandar is either.
Clinton was trying to distract Americans from his Monica sex scandal.
Ok. And that is relevant to what I said how? What does it matter to this thread? Or the Iraq War?
Do you even understand that you have not actually made a point?
How is any of that relevant to anything we have been discussing?
Your focus has been completely
