Did Rick Scott just send a RACIST dogwhistle to our? ‘Ragtime liberals are stealing our election.'

[centerleftFL]

What the hell does this mean?

Rick Scott launches voter fraud lawsuit based on conspiracy claim that ‘ragtime liberals’ are stealing Florida Senate election

NOOR AL-SIBAI
08 NOV 2018 AT 20:51 ET

Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R). Image via screengrab.

Florida governor Rick Scott is launching a lawsuit based on the claim first floated by Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) that Democrats are trying to “steal” the state’s election.

“No ragtime group of liberal activists or lawyers from DC will be allowed to steal this election from the voters in this great state,” Scott said in a press conference where he announced his voter fraud lawsuit against Broward County Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes for the county’s slow-going absentee ballot counting.

00:04 / 01:48
“Every Floridian should be concerned there may be rampant fraud happening in Palm Beach and Broward counties,” the governor and Senate candidate said.

Rick Scott launches voter fraud lawsuit based on conspiracy claim that 'ragtime liberals' are stealing Florida Senate election

 

[Meathead]

I think he means liberals are on the rag.

 

[aaronleland]

I don't think "ragtime" is racial. "Ragtime" is just something an old dude would say.

 

[Pogo]

I don't think "ragtime" is racial. "Ragtime" is just something an old dude would say.

"Ragtime"?

First time I've ever heard "ragtime" applied to politics but it's as interesting an expression as "monkey up".

"Ragtime" comes from the concept of "ragged time", referring to the syncopation inherent in the sensibilities of African musical rhythms. "Ragtime" piano, blues, jazz, evolving at the turn of the 19th>20th century very commonly moved an accent to an off-beat, in contrast with European music which (up to then) never deviated from the on-beat.

So yes it's definitely an African reference.

 

[bullwinkle]

What the hell does this mean?

Rick Scott launches voter fraud lawsuit based on conspiracy claim that ‘ragtime liberals’ are stealing Florida Senate election

NOOR AL-SIBAI
08 NOV 2018 AT 20:51 ET

Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R). Image via screengrab.

Florida governor Rick Scott is launching a lawsuit based on the claim first floated by Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) that Democrats are trying to “steal” the state’s election.

“No ragtime group of liberal activists or lawyers from DC will be allowed to steal this election from the voters in this great state,” Scott said in a press conference where he announced his voter fraud lawsuit against Broward County Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes for the county’s slow-going absentee ballot counting.

00:04 / 01:48
“Every Floridian should be concerned there may be rampant fraud happening in Palm Beach and Broward counties,” the governor and Senate candidate said.

Rick Scott launches voter fraud lawsuit based on conspiracy claim that 'ragtime liberals' are stealing Florida Senate election

Well, for what it's worth, I think Scott is whistling past the graveyard with his 'conspiracy' blurb, but I don't think his reference to 'ragtime' is racist either. There is some blatant racism around, but not as much as charged. I don't like the idea that people jump at the chance to cry racism when there is questionable doubt. As I have said before, my old custom of saying..'not a Chinaman's chance' can be taken as racist, but was never meant to be so.

 

[Pogo]

What the hell does this mean?

Rick Scott launches voter fraud lawsuit based on conspiracy claim that ‘ragtime liberals’ are stealing Florida Senate election

NOOR AL-SIBAI
08 NOV 2018 AT 20:51 ET

Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R). Image via screengrab.

Florida governor Rick Scott is launching a lawsuit based on the claim first floated by Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) that Democrats are trying to “steal” the state’s election.

“No ragtime group of liberal activists or lawyers from DC will be allowed to steal this election from the voters in this great state,” Scott said in a press conference where he announced his voter fraud lawsuit against Broward County Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes for the county’s slow-going absentee ballot counting.

00:04 / 01:48
“Every Floridian should be concerned there may be rampant fraud happening in Palm Beach and Broward counties,” the governor and Senate candidate said.

Rick Scott launches voter fraud lawsuit based on conspiracy claim that 'ragtime liberals' are stealing Florida Senate election

Well, for what it's worth, I think Scott is whistling past the graveyard with his 'conspiracy' blurb, but I don't think his reference to 'ragtime' is racist either. There is some blatant racism around, but not as much as charged. I don't like the idea that people jump at the chance to cry racism when there is questionable doubt. As I have said before, my old custom of saying..'not a Chinaman's chance' can be taken as racist, but was never meant to be so.

What could "ragtime" possibly mean if it's not a reference to race?

Is he commenting on drumming styles? Does Bill Nelson even play drums?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Everything is a racial reference. That's how liberals think they will shut the opposition up.

Democrats absolutely intend to steal elections all across the country.

 

[Pogo]

Everything is a racial reference. That's how liberals think they will shut the opposition up.

Democrats absolutely intend to steal elections all across the country.

Go ahead and give the class some explanation of what ragtime can possibly mean that doesn't refer to race, specifically African.

We'll wait here.

 

[aaronleland]

I don't think "ragtime" is racial. "Ragtime" is just something an old dude would say.

"Ragtime"?

First time I've ever heard "ragtime" applied to politics but it's as interesting an expression as "monkey up".

"Ragtime" comes from the concept of "ragged time", referring to the syncopation inherent in the sensibilities of African musical rhythms. "Ragtime" piano, blues, jazz, evolving at the turn of the 19th>20th century very commonly moved an accent to an off-beat, in contrast with European music which (up to then) never deviated from the on-beat.

So yes it's definitely an African reference.

So he's saying that jazz enthusiasts swayed the election. It's a kinda weird claim, but I wouldn't call it racist.

 

[depotoo]

What the hell does this mean?

Rick Scott launches voter fraud lawsuit based on conspiracy claim that ‘ragtime liberals’ are stealing Florida Senate election

NOOR AL-SIBAI
08 NOV 2018 AT 20:51 ET

Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R). Image via screengrab.

Florida governor Rick Scott is launching a lawsuit based on the claim first floated by Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) that Democrats are trying to “steal” the state’s election.

“No ragtime group of liberal activists or lawyers from DC will be allowed to steal this election from the voters in this great state,” Scott said in a press conference where he announced his voter fraud lawsuit against Broward County Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes for the county’s slow-going absentee ballot counting.

00:04 / 01:48
“Every Floridian should be concerned there may be rampant fraud happening in Palm Beach and Broward counties,” the governor and Senate candidate said.

Rick Scott launches voter fraud lawsuit based on conspiracy claim that 'ragtime liberals' are stealing Florida Senate election

Well, for what it's worth, I think Scott is whistling past the graveyard with his 'conspiracy' blurb, but I don't think his reference to 'ragtime' is racist either. There is some blatant racism around, but not as much as charged. I don't like the idea that people jump at the chance to cry racism when there is questionable doubt. As I have said before, my old custom of saying..'not a Chinaman's chance' can be taken as racist, but was never meant to be so.

What could "ragtime" possibly mean if it's not a reference to race?

Is he commenting on drumming styles? Does Bill Nelson even play drums?

Ragtime definition, rhythm in which the accompaniment is strict two-four time and the melody, with improvised embellishments, is in steady syncopation.
Dictionary.com
Ragtime definition is - rhythm characterized by strong syncopation in the melody with a regularly accented accompaniment in stride-piano style. rhythm characterized by strong syncopation in the melody with a regularly accented accompaniment in stride-piano style.
MerriamWebster

 

[MarcATL]

I don't think "ragtime" is racial. "Ragtime" is just something an old dude would say.

"Ragtime"?

First time I've ever heard "ragtime" applied to politics but it's as interesting an expression as "monkey up".

"Ragtime" comes from the concept of "ragged time", referring to the syncopation inherent in the sensibilities of African musical rhythms. "Ragtime" piano, blues, jazz, evolving at the turn of the 19th>20th century very commonly moved an accent to an off-beat, in contrast with European music which (up to then) never deviated from the on-beat.

So yes it's definitely an African reference.

Exactly.

They know what they're doing.

When they aren't using bullhorns, like the Trumpenfuhrer, they're using dog-whistles.

They aren't fooling anyone.

 

[Mac1958]

 

[bullwinkle]

What the hell does this mean?

Rick Scott launches voter fraud lawsuit based on conspiracy claim that ‘ragtime liberals’ are stealing Florida Senate election

NOOR AL-SIBAI
08 NOV 2018 AT 20:51 ET

Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R). Image via screengrab.

Florida governor Rick Scott is launching a lawsuit based on the claim first floated by Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) that Democrats are trying to “steal” the state’s election.

“No ragtime group of liberal activists or lawyers from DC will be allowed to steal this election from the voters in this great state,” Scott said in a press conference where he announced his voter fraud lawsuit against Broward County Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes for the county’s slow-going absentee ballot counting.

00:04 / 01:48
“Every Floridian should be concerned there may be rampant fraud happening in Palm Beach and Broward counties,” the governor and Senate candidate said.

Rick Scott launches voter fraud lawsuit based on conspiracy claim that 'ragtime liberals' are stealing Florida Senate election

Well, for what it's worth, I think Scott is whistling past the graveyard with his 'conspiracy' blurb, but I don't think his reference to 'ragtime' is racist either. There is some blatant racism around, but not as much as charged. I don't like the idea that people jump at the chance to cry racism when there is questionable doubt. As I have said before, my old custom of saying..'not a Chinaman's chance' can be taken as racist, but was never meant to be so.

What could "ragtime" possibly mean if it's not a reference to race?

Is he commenting on drumming styles? Does Bill Nelson even play drums?

Pogo, I can only reference the old movie "Ragtime" that referenced a changing time in America, and changing mores too, around the turn of the 20th century. Part of that change included attitudes toward black people, but it was included in a whole range of change and innovations and a burst of invention. I never thought of 'Ragtime" as more significant to a race than to an era whose time had come.

 

[aaronleland]

I don't think "ragtime" is racial. "Ragtime" is just something an old dude would say.

"Ragtime"?

First time I've ever heard "ragtime" applied to politics but it's as interesting an expression as "monkey up".

"Ragtime" comes from the concept of "ragged time", referring to the syncopation inherent in the sensibilities of African musical rhythms. "Ragtime" piano, blues, jazz, evolving at the turn of the 19th>20th century very commonly moved an accent to an off-beat, in contrast with European music which (up to then) never deviated from the on-beat.

So yes it's definitely an African reference.

Exactly.

They know what they're doing.

When they aren't using bullhorns, like the Trumpenfuhrer, they're using dog-whistles.

They aren't fooling anyone.

Let's say what he said was racist. I think you give them too much credit. Nobody in 2018 thinks they can make an obviously racist reference on camera, and get away with it. If he was being racist it's because he fucked up. Maybe he's just an idiot.

 

[Meathead]

Everything is a racial reference. That's how liberals think they will shut the opposition up.

Democrats absolutely intend to steal elections all across the country.

Go ahead and give the class some explanation of what ragtime can possibly mean that doesn't refer to race, specifically African.

We'll wait here.

Menstrual cycles, you know, the thing that's caused you PMS.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

What the hell does this mean?

Rick Scott launches voter fraud lawsuit based on conspiracy claim that ‘ragtime liberals’ are stealing Florida Senate election

NOOR AL-SIBAI
08 NOV 2018 AT 20:51 ET

Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R). Image via screengrab.

Florida governor Rick Scott is launching a lawsuit based on the claim first floated by Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) that Democrats are trying to “steal” the state’s election.

“No ragtime group of liberal activists or lawyers from DC will be allowed to steal this election from the voters in this great state,” Scott said in a press conference where he announced his voter fraud lawsuit against Broward County Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes for the county’s slow-going absentee ballot counting.

00:04 / 01:48
“Every Floridian should be concerned there may be rampant fraud happening in Palm Beach and Broward counties,” the governor and Senate candidate said.

Rick Scott launches voter fraud lawsuit based on conspiracy claim that 'ragtime liberals' are stealing Florida Senate election

The Liberals make everything about race because they are Racist Cretins.

 

[Pogo]

I don't think "ragtime" is racial. "Ragtime" is just something an old dude would say.

"Ragtime"?

First time I've ever heard "ragtime" applied to politics but it's as interesting an expression as "monkey up".

"Ragtime" comes from the concept of "ragged time", referring to the syncopation inherent in the sensibilities of African musical rhythms. "Ragtime" piano, blues, jazz, evolving at the turn of the 19th>20th century very commonly moved an accent to an off-beat, in contrast with European music which (up to then) never deviated from the on-beat.

So yes it's definitely an African reference.

So he's saying that jazz enthusiasts swayed the election. It's a kinda weird claim, but I wouldn't call it racist.

Yeah it qualifies more as race-baiting. Like "monkey up". Although what it gains him at this point, eludes me. Unless I dunno maybe he wants to establish cred with his Klan element.

It's like Lee Atwater said --- "You start out in 1954 by saying, "******, ******, ******." By 1968 you can't say "******" — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like "monkey up" and "ragtime" and all that stuff".

 

[Pogo]

Everything is a racial reference. That's how liberals think they will shut the opposition up.

Democrats absolutely intend to steal elections all across the country.

Go ahead and give the class some explanation of what ragtime can possibly mean that doesn't refer to race, specifically African.

We'll wait here.

Menstrual cycles, you know, the thing that's caused you PMS.

Ragtime (rhythmic syncopation) has nothing to do with menstrual cycles. It's a rhythm which is by definition irregular.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Scott is of course lying – no one is trying to ‘steal’ an election, there is no ‘fraud.’

Given the razor thin vote margin, a recount is perfectly appropriate and warranted.

And Scott has once again demonstrated he’s unfit to hold any public office.

 

[Pogo]

What the hell does this mean?

Rick Scott launches voter fraud lawsuit based on conspiracy claim that ‘ragtime liberals’ are stealing Florida Senate election

NOOR AL-SIBAI
08 NOV 2018 AT 20:51 ET

Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R). Image via screengrab.

Florida governor Rick Scott is launching a lawsuit based on the claim first floated by Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) that Democrats are trying to “steal” the state’s election.

“No ragtime group of liberal activists or lawyers from DC will be allowed to steal this election from the voters in this great state,” Scott said in a press conference where he announced his voter fraud lawsuit against Broward County Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes for the county’s slow-going absentee ballot counting.

00:04 / 01:48
“Every Floridian should be concerned there may be rampant fraud happening in Palm Beach and Broward counties,” the governor and Senate candidate said.

Rick Scott launches voter fraud lawsuit based on conspiracy claim that 'ragtime liberals' are stealing Florida Senate election

Well, for what it's worth, I think Scott is whistling past the graveyard with his 'conspiracy' blurb, but I don't think his reference to 'ragtime' is racist either. There is some blatant racism around, but not as much as charged. I don't like the idea that people jump at the chance to cry racism when there is questionable doubt. As I have said before, my old custom of saying..'not a Chinaman's chance' can be taken as racist, but was never meant to be so.

What could "ragtime" possibly mean if it's not a reference to race?

Is he commenting on drumming styles? Does Bill Nelson even play drums?

Pogo, I can only reference the old movie "Ragtime" that referenced a changing time in America, and changing mores too, around the turn of the 20th century. Part of that change included attitudes toward black people, but it was included in a whole range of change and innovations and a burst of invention. I never thought of 'Ragtime" as more significant to a race than to an era whose time had come.

I only know of the play (which I guess is the source of the movie) from reading about it but yes it seems to be about that race in that place in that time, as well as how ragtime (syncopation) crept into the American culture, through music. It's a direct statement of African sensibility, as any musician knows. You can see it sometimes if you watch a really old video of a music performance and notice a white audience doggedly clapping on the on-beat. We don't do that any more -- we shifted to the "two/four" rather than the "one/three". Scott Joplin and Fats Waller and Motown changed all that whether we noticed or not. I infer that's what the play/movie is about, that cultural sensibility shift, imported directly from Mother Africa.

I can't think of any kind of definition of "ragtime" that doesn't derive from that.