Did NATO steal countries from Russia?

[Lakhota]

I can't think of any. Can anyone else? Joining NATO is voluntary.

However, new members must be invited by a consensus of current members.

Minimum Requirements for NATO Membership

 

[Wyatt earp]

NATO has to approve it

 

[Lakhota]

NATO has to approve it

True, but it's voluntary. Point: No NATO countries were forced to join NATO.

 

[Wyatt earp]

True, but it's voluntary. Point: No NATO countries were forced to join NATO.

Agree, so did you read a new story today that has something to do with this post that you would like to share?

 

[Lakhota]

The countries that broke away from the old Soviet Union did so by choice. NATO didn't steal them. So why is Russia trying to steal Ukraine? Is Putin afraid that Ukraine will eventually met the NATO criteria and be invited to join? If so, how would that harm Russia?

 

[Wyatt earp]

The countries that broke away from the old Soviet Union did so by choice. NATO didn't steal them. So why is Russia trying to steal Ukraine? Is Putin afraid that Ukraine will eventually met the NATO criteria and be invited to join? If so, how would that harm Russia?

I don't get that either.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Did NATO steal countries from Russia?

Of course not.

They never ‘belonged’ to Russia to begin with.

 

[beagle9]

True, but it's voluntary. Point: No NATO countries were forced to join NATO.

What's your point ?

Google - NATO was formally established in April 1949, four years after World World 2 – when the West were worried about a potential attack by the Soviet Union.

 

[Lakhota]

What's your point ?

Google - NATO was formally established in April 1949, four years after World World 2 – when the West were worried about a potential attack by the Soviet Union.

Duh, what's your point? Putin is the thief - not NATO.

 

[beagle9]

Duh, what's your point? Putin is the thief - not NATO.

Ok, then what does NATO have to do with any of it then ?? The history means nothing at all eh ? Maybe you should contact the government, and tell them to pass a "don't say NATO" bill, now that bill might actually mean what it says instead of the lies being told constantly about other bill's being considered in this country...

 

[Lakhota]

Ok, then what does NATO have to do with any of it then ?? The history means nothing at all eh ? Maybe you should contact the government, and tell them to pass a "don't say NATO" bill, now that bill might actually mean what it says instead of the lies being told constantly about other bill's being considered in this country...

Do you even know what NATO is?

NATO - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Lesh]

What's your point ?

Google - NATO was formally established in April 1949, four years after World World 2 – when the West were worried about a potential attack by the Soviet Union.

And look at what Russia is doing now.

Exactly what NATO was formed to prevent

 

[Wyatt earp]

Of course not.

They never ‘belonged’ to Russia to begin with.

Wait I thought you were one of the liberals who said states like Texas can never leave the Union?

 

[Ridgerunner]

The countries that broke away from the old Soviet Union did so by choice. NATO didn't steal them. So why is Russia trying to steal Ukraine? Is Putin afraid that Ukraine will eventually met the NATO criteria and be invited to join? If so, how would that harm Russia?

Vlad is set on one thing... Empire Building... The Russian Empire...

He is trying to build his place in History...

Peter the Great...
Catherine the Great...
Stalin...
Marx...
Vlad the Great...

After all he is a Psychopath...

 

[beagle9]

Do you even know what NATO is?

NATO - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

NATO was formally established in April 1949, four years after World World 2 – when the West were worried about a potential attack by the Soviet Union.

 

[Lakhota]

NATO was formally established in April 1949, four years after World World 2 – when the West were worried about a potential attack by the Soviet Union.

Therefore, why should Putin fear NATO? NATO has never been an aggressor or tried to steal land from others. Putin is just pissed that the old Soviet Union fell apart.

 

[Darkwind]

I can't think of any. Can anyone else? Joining NATO is voluntary.

However, new members must be invited by a consensus of current members.

Minimum Requirements for NATO Membership

Let Me ask you a serious question.

Putin thinks that NATO wants to move in on Russian borders and set up defensive positions including missiles that would be minutes away from Moscow.

NATO says it hasn't offered Ukraine membership in NATO and that is true.


Yet, Putin has invaded Ukraine on the premise that NATO wanted to set up a defensive perimeter around Russia.

We know it's a lie.
The World knows it's a lie.

Still, NATO said when the Soviets broke up that they had no desire on the Baltic States and were never going to enter into those countries. Yet, they did. They, and by extension, us; are liars.

So, we say NATO doesn't want Urkaine for a Defensive position. But we are already proven liars.
We say that we are not going to put missle in Ukraine. But we are already proven liars.

Putin sees us as proven liars.

Understand?

I'm not condoning what Putin is doing, and he needs to be pushed back into his own country. BUT NOT BY US!!!

But to think that NATO and the European Union has no blame in this war is just a ******* lie. Becasue they are PROVEN liars.

It doesn't matter if what Putin says is a lie.

WHAT MATTERS IS THAT HE BELIEVES IT.


Therein lays the danger.

 

[beagle9]

Vlad is set on one thing... Empire Building... The Russian Empire...

He is trying to build his place in History...

Peter the Great...
Catherine the Great...
Stalin...
Marx...
Vlad the Great...

After all he is a Psychopath...

You think Putin is power hungry like that maybe ? We aren't living in the past, but rather we are living in some modern precarious times with nukes everywhere, just like Putin and his Russian's are living in the very same times.

No wants nuclear war in either Russia or in the world, and especially not in Ukraine, but for some reason the past year's of political posturing and saber rattling has caused the war machine to start it's engine's up once again. It best we all be honest about this stuff, because people are now dying as a result of it all.......

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

why should Putin fear NATO?

He shouldn’t.

Of course, Putin uses the lie that NATO poses a ‘threat’ to Russia to justify his dictatorship and his wars of aggression.

 

[beagle9]

Therefore, why should Putin fear NATO? NATO has never been an aggressor or tried to steal land from others. Putin is just pissed that the old Soviet Union fell apart.

Yeah that too, but do you not think that Putin is monitoring the slow progression of NATO in the region, and is therefore offended by the movements, otherwise being that NATO was created with Russia agression in mind ?