Did Hamas use paragliders on October 7 2023?

[EMH]

A fragile pole would cause a 757 to cartwheel?

Why don't you post the mass of each and the speed of the 757?

How much momentum was transferred?

Remember, the plane is flying, just air to push back against....

 

[Shusha]

There would be just one religion if Jews believed in Jesus.

The implication in your post is that "only one religion" is a goal to be achieved. Is there a reason why you think this is necessary?

I'd also like to suggest that if the followers of JC hadn't broken away from and corrupted the Jewish teachings, there would just be Judaism as an "Abrahamic" religion.

 

[Shusha]

LOL!!!

And not one single denial of the list of accusations of Jesus.... hilarious.

You've the wrong starting point. The starting point isn't JC, it's the Messiah.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

How much momentum was transferred?

Remember, the plane is flying, just air to push back against....

How much momentum was transferred?

Post the photos of the poles.

 

[EMH]

The implication in your post is that "only one religion" is a goal to be achieved. Is there a reason why you think this is necessary?

I'd also like to suggest that if the followers of JC hadn't broken away from and corrupted the Jewish teachings, there would just be Judaism as an "Abrahamic" religion.

How did Jesus "corrupt the Jewish teachings?"

 

[EMH]

How much momentum was transferred?

Post the photos of the poles.

Too lazy, you do it, you are losing 70-30, your move...

LOL!!!

 

[EMH]

You've the wrong starting point. The starting point isn't JC, it's the Messiah.

Is Jesus the Messiah or not according to Jews?

 

[Shusha]

How did Jesus "corrupt the Jewish teachings?"

Read carefully. I said the followers of JC...

 

[EMH]

Read carefully. I said the followers of JC...

OK, how did the followers of Jesus corrupt the Jewish teachings?

 

[Crepitus]

Some say this was not possible.
But i think, it happened
What do you think?

Apparently they did, but I'd say this is a once only tactic. It only worked because it was so unexpected.

 

[Shusha]

Is Jesus the Messiah or not according to Jews?

Again, wrong starting point. What is the Messiah? What need does a Messiah fulfill? How will the world be changed by the presence and work of the Messiah? Under what context will the Messiah come and what requirements must be met first? If you can't answer those questions first, you have no measure with which to evaluate.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Too lazy, you do it, you are losing 70-30, your move...

LOL!!!

Too dumb to post the pictures?

Or just a *****?

 

[EMH]

Again, wrong starting point. What is the Messiah? What need does a Messiah fulfill? How will the world be changed by the presence and work of the Messiah? Under what context will the Messiah come and what requirements must be met first? If you can't answer those questions first, you have no measure with which to evaluate.

True, not a Biblical scholar, though lethal on certain parts of it.

The point is that Christians believe Jesus is/was the Messiah, and Jews do not. The question is why...

 

[Shusha]

OK, how did the followers of Jesus corrupt the Jewish teachings?

Consider some of the foundational teachings of Judaism that were distinct and separate from other religious practices of the time.

 

[Shusha]

True, not a Biblical scholar, though lethal on certain parts of it.

The point is that Christians believe Jesus is/was the Messiah, and Jews do not. The question is why...

Also not a scholar of the Tanakh, but have read deeply enough to have some very basic understanding of Jewish theology. The reason why Jews do not believe JC was the Messiah is because JC did not meet the measurement of expectations given to us by Gd. He didn't pass the test. It's not any more complicated than that.

The better question is why the followers of a Jewish teacher rejected some core tenants of Judaism, and corrupted others.

 

[rosends]

LOL!!!

And not one single denial of the list of accusations of Jesus.... hilarious.

Why is it my job to defend Jesus?

 

[rosends]

True, not a Biblical scholar, though lethal on certain parts of it.

The point is that Christians believe Jesus is/was the Messiah, and Jews do not. The question is why...

SIX REASONS WHY JEWS DON'T BELIEVE IN JESUS

jewsforjudaism.org

Why don't Jews believe in Jesus? | Aish

Do Jews believe in Jesus? Read on to learn more about why for 2,000 years Jews have rejected the Christian idea of Jesus as messiah.

aish.com

What Do Jews Believe About Jesus? | My Jewish Learning

Jesus is the central figure of Christianity, believed by Christians to be the messiah, the son of God and the ...

www.myjewishlearning.com

 

[EMH]

Consider some of the foundational teachings of Judaism that were distinct and separate from other religious practices of the time.

I do not claim to be such an expert. Please enlighten us. I understand the 10 Commandments. That's easy. Beyond that, well, I'm guessing...

 

[EMH]

He didn't pass the test.

OK, any specifics on where Jesus "failed?"

Physics for example. At least one Jew told me that when Jesus was "in jail" they took him out to a lake, tossed him in the lake, and made him stay there for hours telling him he wasn't getting out until he walked on the water. He never walked on the water, at least in captivity.

 

[EMH]

From rosends first link....


Reason #1 – The Messiah must be from the Tribe of Judah and a Descendant of King David AND King Solomon – Jesus did not qualify.

The Messiah must be a member of the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10) and a direct descendant of King David & King Solomon (2 Samuel 7:12-14; 1 Chronicles 22:9-10). Genealogy in the Bible is only passed down from father to son (Numbers 1:1-18).

There is no evidence that Jesus really had this pedigree, and the Christian Bible actually claims that he did not have a “birth-father” from the tribe of Judah descending from King David and King Solomon (Matt. 1:18-20).

Reason #2 – Ingathering of the Jewish Exiles – Jesus did not do this.

When the Messiah is reigning as King of Israel, the Jews will be ingathered from their exile and will return to Israel, their homeland (Deut. 30:3; Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 30:3, 32:37; Ezekiel 11:17, 36:24).
This has clearly not yet happened and we still await its fulfillment.

Reason #3– Rebuilding of the Holy Temple – Jesus failed to achieve this.

The Temple in Jerusalem will be rebuilt (Isaiah 2:2-3, 56:6-7, 60:7, 66:20; Ezekiel 37:26–27; Malachi 3:4; Zech. 14:20-21).

The Temple was still standing in Jesus’ day. It was destroyed 38 years after Jesus’ crucifixion and it has not yet been rebuilt.

Reason #4– Worldwide Reign of Peace – Jesus did not accomplish this.

There will be universal disarmament and worldwide peace with a complete end to war (Micah 4:1-4; Hoseah 2:20; Isaiah 2:1-4, 60:18).

Wars have increased dramatically in the world since the start of Christianity. (- wow... kinda like W/Zionism taking over the GOP....)

Reason #5 – Observance of the Torah Embraced by All Jews – Jesus didn’t bring this about.

The Messiah will reign as King at a time when all the Jewish people will observe G-d’s commandments (Ezekiel 37:24; Deut. 30:8,10; Jeremiah 31:32; Ezekiel 11:19-20, 36:26-27).

Jesus never ruled as King, nor have all Jews embraced the commandments of G-d’s Torah.

Reason #6 – Universal Knowledge of G-d – Jesus clearly failed here also.

The Messiah will rule at a time when all the people of the world will come to acknowledge and serve the one true G-d (Zechariah 3:9, 8:23,14:9,16; Isaiah 45:23, 66:23; Jeremiah 31:33; Ezekiel 38:23; Psalm 86:9; Zeph. 3:9).

This, as well, has not yet taken place and we await its fulfillment.

No matter how many unusual & miraculous things Jesus seems to accomplish in the New Testament, he doesn't fulfill even one of the 6 criteria by which the Nation of Israel can recognize him as the true Jewish Messiah.