Did anyone read the 10 point plan from Iran that tRump agreed to?

[Stryder50]

Pakistan who drafted that ceasefire have insisted it also included Lebanon, Trump signed up to that and that is why those Zionist child killers carried out a frenzied bombing massacre in Beirut today killing hundreds all over the City, the Zionists say it doesn't apply to them, so Iran is justified in continuing to attack Israel with missiles.
They also bombed a Synagogue in Tehran a few days ago, they hate jews who are religious and love Zionists.

BTW, no Cease-Fire agreed to yet.
Just agree to meet and discuss terms of such.

 

[Zavulon]

So what is Iran's "or else?"

Or Iran will continue the war, obtain nukes and, if necessary, nuke few American cities. Is it good enough "or else"?

 

[Deadstick]

As usual, you haven't a clue.
Or are you an advocate for Iran and Islamic Jihad (i.e. a traitor to the West) ?

Iran’s Hormuz Card: Mine Warfare and the Timeline of Control​

Iran Builds Layered Missile and Mine Shield Against U.S ...​

Iran's 5,000 Mines Threaten Strait of Hormuz Oil Traffic​

Iran's Naval Mines Explained: How They Could Block the Strait ...​

U.S. Officials Say Iran Is Laying Mines in the Strait of Hormuz​

Five Things to Know About Iranian Minelaying • Stimson Center​

Show some evidence not just Bullshit US propaganda like US officials say.

 

[Mac-7]

As usual, you haven't a clue.
Or are you an advocate for Iran and Islamic Jihad (i.e. a traitor to the West) ?

Iran’s Hormuz Card: Mine Warfare and the Timeline of Control​

Iran Builds Layered Missile and Mine Shield Against U.S ...​

Iran's 5,000 Mines Threaten Strait of Hormuz Oil Traffic​

Iran's Naval Mines Explained: How They Could Block the Strait ...​

U.S. Officials Say Iran Is Laying Mines in the Strait of Hormuz​

Five Things to Know About Iranian Minelaying • Stimson Center​

I think we can clear the mines and sink the speedboats

But shore to ship missiles are not easy to stop

And Iran only has to demonstrate its ability to sink one ship st any given time

 

[Zavulon]

BTW, no Cease-Fire agreed to yet.
Just agree to meet and discuss terms of such.

No. There is no more reason for meeting and discussing, at least for Iranians.
And no, it was ceasefire declared by Pakistan.
And this ceasefire was violated by the USA and Israel in few hours.

 

[Mac-7]

Or Iran will continue the war, obtain nukes and, if necessary, nuke few American cities. Is it good enough "or else"?

They will do that whether we comply with their demands or not

 

[Zavulon]

They will do that whether we comply with their demands or not

Not necessarily. You had your chance to keep Iran non-nuclear, but you spoilt it by attacking them. Highly likely Iran will be nuclear, one way, or another. But you still have the chance to normalise relationships with them, and avoid being nuked. They wouldn't nuke you without reasons, just for lulz.
Coexistence is possible when you don't create vital threats to each other.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Or Iran will continue the war, obtain nukes and, if necessary, nuke few American cities. Is it good enough "or else"?

Then we must wipe them out before that happens. We can do without a "civilization" like that.

 

[Zavulon]

Then we must wipe them out before that happens.

You can try, but you won't succeed. At least few American cities will be destroyed.

We can do without a "civilization" like that.

But can you do without New York and Washington?

 

[Billiejeens]

Or Iran will continue the war, obtain nukes and, if necessary, nuke few American cities. Is it good enough "or else"?

no worries

da joos will get them

 

[Billiejeens]

You can try, but you won't succeed. At least few American cities will be destroyed.


But can you do without New York and Washington?

prosper

 

[Seymour Flops]

You can try, but you won't succeed. At least few American cities will be destroyed.

Sure, Jan.

But can you do without New York and Washington?

Oh Hell yes!

 

[Deadstick]

They will do that whether we comply with their demands or not

What are you mind reader? even though there is not one scrap of evidence that would happen.

 

[Stryder50]

Snow some evidence not just Bullshit US propaganda like US officials say.

Bit warm over there for "snow", but if one clicks a blue line they can see the URL.

Iran’s Hormuz Card: Mine Warfare and the Timeline of Control​

Iran’s Hormuz Card: Mine Warfare and Control Timeline in the Strait of Hormuz

A strategic analysis of Iran’s capacity to disrupt the Strait of Hormuz through mine warfare, the timeline of maritime control, and the military and global energy implications.

defensedomain.com

Iran Builds Layered Missile and Mine Shield Against U.S. Carriers in Strait of Hormuz​

3 Mar, 2026

Iran Builds Layered Missile and Mine Shield Against U.S. Carriers in Strait of Hormuz

Analysis of Iran’s naval mines, anti-ship missiles, and air defenses targeting U.S. forces in the Strait of Hormuz.

www.armyrecognition.com

Iran's 5,000 Mines Threaten Strait of Hormuz Oil Traffic​

Iran warns that any vessel attempting to pass through the Strait of Hormuz will be burned by the Revolutionary Guard and navy. Ships' positions shown on the ship tracking site VesselFinder on the 2nd reveal almost no vessels within the Strait of Hormuz, while tankers unable to enter the strait cluster densely at the entrance. /VesselFinder

Iran's 5,000 Mines Threaten Strait of Hormuz Oil Traffic

Irans 5,000 Mines Threaten Strait of Hormuz Oil Traffic Naval mines, missile strikes, and GPS jamming could disrupt global oil shipments, risking price surges and navigational chaos

www.chosun.com

Iran's Naval Mines Explained: How They Could Block the Strait ...​

Iran's Naval Mines Explained: How They Could Block the Strait of Hormuz

US intelligence reports indicate that Iran has started deploying a small number of naval mines in the Strait of Hormuz, a crucial passageway for global oil transportation, Middle East, Times Now

www.timesnownews.com

U.S. Officials Say Iran Is Laying Mines in the Strait of Hormuz​

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/12/world/middleeast/iran-mines-strait-of-hormuz-us.html

Sorry, NYT, will have to pay to see.

Five Things to Know About Iranian Minelaying​

https://www.stimson.org/2026/five-things-to-know-about-iranian-minelaying/

This last one has a few key points to consider. Excerpts;
...
How does a country with “no navy” effectively threaten global shipping lanes? The answer says less about Iran’s military strength than it does about America’s strategic blind spots: Even small numbers of cheap weapons can threaten movement, complicate planning, impose costs, project risk, and slow even the most capable military forces.
...
It would be a mistake to read Iranian minelaying as the last act of a cornered adversary. It is a sign of preparation, not desperation — a deliberate effort to shift the terms of the conflict. Tehran is executing a classic risk strategy, exploiting the possibility of escalation to impose global economic costs and generate political pressure on Washington to stop fighting.
...
Iranian strategy should not come as a surprise. A declassified 2009 CIA report noted that Iran “has adopted a strategy in which a few mines or the threat of mining would be used to deter shipping,” adding that such mining would be “just as effective as a blockade.” A 2017 Office of Naval Intelligence assessment went even further, concluding naval mines were a critical component of the IRGCN’s strategy in the Strait of Hormuz, and that Iran has specifically invested in new mines and mine delivery vessels after observing their impact during the Tanker War and Operation Desert Storm. This is a strategy Iran has planned for decades. Only now has it been put into practice.
...
Iran is estimated to possess between 2,000 to 6,000 naval mines, including rudimentary contact mines of the type Tehran deployed during the Tanker War in the 1980s as well as more sophisticated bottom and influence mines that detonate in response to acoustic, magnetic, or pressure signatures and are significantly harder to detect and clear. But the number of mines matters far less than how they are employed.
The IRGCN has built its mine warfare capability around speed, redundancy, and concealment. Its primary platforms include a mix of small vessels and submersibles concealed within a network of tunnels and caves along its southern coast. The United States reportedly destroyed 16 of these boats in the first few hours after reports of mining surfaced, but the IRGCN still has hundreds — possibly even thousands — of such attack boats. ...
...
Naval mines do not operate in isolation. The IRGCN has spent decades developing a layered set of asymmetric capabilities — mines, missiles, drones, fast attack boats, small submersibles, and uncrewed surface vessels — designed to work together. Each of these assets poses a challenge on its own, but combined, they form what U.S. officials have reportedly called a “Death Valley” — a gauntlet of air and naval threats that any mine clearance operation would have to survive before clearing a single mine.
...

4. The U.S. Navy Is Less Prepared Than It Should Be​

The U.S. Navy has long deprioritized the mine countermeasure mission. It is now paying for that choice.

Just last year, the United States withdrew its last dedicated mine countermeasure ship from the Gulf, leaving only four such vessels in the U.S. inventory — all forward deployed in Japan. The Navy’s new mine-clearance ship relies on the Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) equipped with a mine countermeasures (MCM) mission package. But decades of delays, technical problems, and cost overruns mean that only three ships have ever been outfitted and deployed with that package, and the system has never been tested in combat. Even then, the capability remains limited: Its aerial component, the MH-60S Seahawk helicopter, can only detect surface or near-surface mines in shallow waters no greater than 40 feet. Moreover, operating these helicopters without air superiority would be extraordinarily risky, as they would be highly vulnerable to Iranian shore-based anti-aircraft artillery and short- to medium-range surface-to-air missiles.

The most promising new system — a semi-autonomous, uncrewed surface or undersea vehicle — is still in testing, with low-rate initial production not expected until 2030. As a result, the United States finds itself in a conflict that demands a capability the navy never prioritized, and that is therefore consistently underfunded and repeatedly delayed.
...

5. Time Is the Weapon, and Iran Knows It​

In a recent interview, former CENTCOM Commander Joseph Votel stated, “I think the worst case now would be if we’ve found positive evidence of the Strait being mined… That would really extend out the time [for the opening of the Strait].”

As pointed out by General Votel, naval mines are not just physical obstacles. They are used to buy time — and time is what Iran needs most. The longer the strait remains closed, the louder the calls for a ceasefire will become, from American consumers absorbing rising energy costs to governments grappling with the economic fallout from sustained energy price shocks. Iran is counting on that pressure to compel Washington to stop fighting.
....

There are only two reliable sources for information on the mining of the Strait.
One is Iran ...
The other is the USA.

Them's your choices.
Deal with it.

 

[Stryder50]

Or Iran will continue the war, obtain nukes and, if necessary, nuke few American cities. Is it good enough "or else"?

Who will give Iran the nukes ?
How will such get to Iran ?
How will Iran get them to the USA cities to 'nuke' ?

What would prevent the USA from Nuking Iran's cities in response ?

 

[Stryder50]

I think we can clear the mines and sink the speedboats

But shore to ship missiles are not easy to stop

And Iran only has to demonstrate its ability to sink one ship st any given time

That's where it might require ground force insertions at launch sites to finish the clearance of such.
i.e. "Boots on the Ground"

 

[Stryder50]

Not necessarily. You had your chance to keep Iran non-nuclear, but you spoilt it by attacking them. Highly likely Iran will be nuclear, one way, or another. But you still have the chance to normalise relationships with them, and avoid being nuked. They wouldn't nuke you without reasons, just for lulz.
Coexistence is possible when you don't create vital threats to each other.

Iran created a vital threat to the USA 47 years ago, and has continued, maintained ever since.
Time for realistic negotiations is long past.
Time now to terminate the theocracy with extreme prejudice.

 

[Stryder50]

You can try, but you won't succeed. At least few American cities will be destroyed.


But can you do without New York and Washington?

We can succeed and sooner we do such less chance of Iran getting nukes from 'someone'.