DHS Document Undermines Trump Case For Muslim Travel Ban

[Reasonable]

Meanwhile....
Analysis | It’s now political suicide for Republicans if they don’t call for deeper investigations on Russia

Worst month of any presidency in our nation's history.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So the entire argument is they don't become radicalized until they get here so there's no danger letting them in?

Libtarded doesn't do you idiots justice.

Or maybe they become radicalized because of US policy. But we don't want to change that policy, let's just keep on hitting Muslim countries and pretend there aren't any consequences.

Or maybe they become radicalized because of US policy.

Good point. Keep them all out of the US, until we no longer have a policy.
Then keep them out longer. Just to be safe.

Yeah let's rip up the Constitution .. just for the illusion of safety.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Ben Franklin

Yeah let's rip up the Constitution .. just for the illusion of safety.

Does the Constitution say we need to let in Muslims?
It's been a while since I read it, but I don't remember that part......

No, it doesn't. Also doesn't say the US needs to invade Iraq. But hey, it happened.

Since 2001 the right has made it a policy, which mirrors the right's policy in Israel, to make, nurture, foment and increase fear.

It's hardly surprising, the right didn't know what to do after the end of the Cold War, defense spending was down, which mean campaign funding was down. It means the right would have to work harder for their votes, it mean they'd struggle to get in their key policies, it would mean a disaster for the right.

So, they made Islam the enemy, dressing it up as just Islamic fundamentalism of a certain type to keep states like Saudi Arabia on board and keep the oil flowing. They managed to hit OPEC which was trying to get stronger under Hugo Chavez too.

This whole policy has taken 16 years, the world is far less safe, the US is far more draconian now than it's been in a long time, the right is happy, more or less, they're back in the game.

You, on the other hand, are getting screwed up the ass, but you like it because they tell you that they're winning, and that's all you care about.

No, it doesn't.

Excellent! So keeping Muslims out doesn't rip up the Constitution.

So, they made Islam the enemy

Because before 2001, Islam loved us.....DERP!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Or maybe they become radicalized because of US policy.

Good point. Keep them all out of the US, until we no longer have a policy.
Then keep them out longer. Just to be safe.

Yeah let's rip up the Constitution .. just for the illusion of safety.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Ben Franklin

Yeah let's rip up the Constitution .. just for the illusion of safety.

Does the Constitution say we need to let in Muslims?
It's been a while since I read it, but I don't remember that part......

The experts: Most Terrorists get radicalized AFTER they come to the US.
Making Trump's Muslim ban a giant crock of shit.

You've been duped again trump humps.

The experts: Most Terrorists get radicalized AFTER they come to the US.

Sounds like a good reason to keep them out.

Making Trump's Muslim ban a giant crock of shit.

If they aren't here, they can't get radicalized here.

There's no extreme vetting. How can there be if they get radicalized after they arrive.
And you think all Muslims will be banned? The courts already shot that shit down.
Trump: 0- presidency.

There's no extreme vetting. How can there be if they get radicalized after they arrive.

They get radicalized after they arrive, so keep them all out. That makes vetting easy.

And you think all Muslims will be banned?

That would be safest.

 

[Reasonable]

Yeah let's rip up the Constitution .. just for the illusion of safety.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Ben Franklin

Yeah let's rip up the Constitution .. just for the illusion of safety.

Does the Constitution say we need to let in Muslims?
It's been a while since I read it, but I don't remember that part......

The experts: Most Terrorists get radicalized AFTER they come to the US.
Making Trump's Muslim ban a giant crock of shit.

You've been duped again trump humps.

The experts: Most Terrorists get radicalized AFTER they come to the US.

Sounds like a good reason to keep them out.

Making Trump's Muslim ban a giant crock of shit.

If they aren't here, they can't get radicalized here.

There's no extreme vetting. How can there be if they get radicalized after they arrive.
And you think all Muslims will be banned? The courts already shot that shit down.
Trump: 0- presidency.

There's no extreme vetting. How can there be if they get radicalized after they arrive.

They get radicalized after they arrive, so keep them all out. That makes vetting easy.

And you think all Muslims will be banned?

That would be safest.

I guess you didn't hear me nor read that the courts already put the kabosh on an all Muslim ban.
You really need to read more before coming here to post.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yeah let's rip up the Constitution .. just for the illusion of safety.

Does the Constitution say we need to let in Muslims?
It's been a while since I read it, but I don't remember that part......

The experts: Most Terrorists get radicalized AFTER they come to the US.
Making Trump's Muslim ban a giant crock of shit.

You've been duped again trump humps.

The experts: Most Terrorists get radicalized AFTER they come to the US.

Sounds like a good reason to keep them out.

Making Trump's Muslim ban a giant crock of shit.

If they aren't here, they can't get radicalized here.

There's no extreme vetting. How can there be if they get radicalized after they arrive.
And you think all Muslims will be banned? The courts already shot that shit down.
Trump: 0- presidency.

There's no extreme vetting. How can there be if they get radicalized after they arrive.

They get radicalized after they arrive, so keep them all out. That makes vetting easy.

And you think all Muslims will be banned?

That would be safest.

I guess you didn't hear me nor read that the courts already put the kabosh on an all Muslim ban.
You really need to read more before coming here to post.

The courts want us to let those Muslims in, the ones who get radicalized?
Sounds like a bad idea.

 

[frigidweirdo]

But then again the biggest safety issues are with Americans, keep them out too?

Nah, just keep out the Muzzies.

Ah, it's always good to do something to others, don't need to solve the problem, just need to feel good about pretending it's always someone else, right?

Ah, it's always good to do something to others

Do something to others? Nah, just keep them out of the US.

Which is doing something....

Yeah, keeping terrorists out is doing something.
Count on a liberal to be against that....DERP!

But again, the OP said they aren't keeping terrorists out by doing this.

 

[Reasonable]

The experts: Most Terrorists get radicalized AFTER they come to the US.
Making Trump's Muslim ban a giant crock of shit.

You've been duped again trump humps.

The experts: Most Terrorists get radicalized AFTER they come to the US.

Sounds like a good reason to keep them out.

Making Trump's Muslim ban a giant crock of shit.

If they aren't here, they can't get radicalized here.

There's no extreme vetting. How can there be if they get radicalized after they arrive.
And you think all Muslims will be banned? The courts already shot that shit down.
Trump: 0- presidency.

There's no extreme vetting. How can there be if they get radicalized after they arrive.

They get radicalized after they arrive, so keep them all out. That makes vetting easy.

And you think all Muslims will be banned?

That would be safest.

I guess you didn't hear me nor read that the courts already put the kabosh on an all Muslim ban.
You really need to read more before coming here to post.

The courts want us to let those Muslims in, the ones who get radicalized?
Sounds like a bad idea.

The courts ruled it unconstitutional. But we know none of you deplorables care about the Constitutional.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Nah, just keep out the Muzzies.

Ah, it's always good to do something to others, don't need to solve the problem, just need to feel good about pretending it's always someone else, right?

Ah, it's always good to do something to others

Do something to others? Nah, just keep them out of the US.

Which is doing something....

Yeah, keeping terrorists out is doing something.
Count on a liberal to be against that....DERP!

But again, the OP said they aren't keeping terrorists out by doing this.

It said that they become dangerous, after they're here.
Sounds like a good reason to keep them out.....all of them.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The experts: Most Terrorists get radicalized AFTER they come to the US.

Sounds like a good reason to keep them out.

Making Trump's Muslim ban a giant crock of shit.

If they aren't here, they can't get radicalized here.

There's no extreme vetting. How can there be if they get radicalized after they arrive.
And you think all Muslims will be banned? The courts already shot that shit down.
Trump: 0- presidency.

There's no extreme vetting. How can there be if they get radicalized after they arrive.

They get radicalized after they arrive, so keep them all out. That makes vetting easy.

And you think all Muslims will be banned?

That would be safest.

I guess you didn't hear me nor read that the courts already put the kabosh on an all Muslim ban.
You really need to read more before coming here to post.

The courts want us to let those Muslims in, the ones who get radicalized?
Sounds like a bad idea.

The courts ruled it unconstitutional. But we know none of you deplorables care about the Constitutional.

Of course, if a court makes a bad decision, we just have to let Americans suffer and die, right?

 

[Reasonable]

Ah, it's always good to do something to others, don't need to solve the problem, just need to feel good about pretending it's always someone else, right?

Ah, it's always good to do something to others

Do something to others? Nah, just keep them out of the US.

Which is doing something....

Yeah, keeping terrorists out is doing something.
Count on a liberal to be against that....DERP!

But again, the OP said they aren't keeping terrorists out by doing this.

It said that they become dangerous, after they're here.
Sounds like a good reason to keep them out.....all of them.

Genius doesn't understand what unconstitutional means. Lol

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Ah, it's always good to do something to others

Do something to others? Nah, just keep them out of the US.

Which is doing something....

Yeah, keeping terrorists out is doing something.
Count on a liberal to be against that....DERP!

But again, the OP said they aren't keeping terrorists out by doing this.

It said that they become dangerous, after they're here.
Sounds like a good reason to keep them out.....all of them.

Genius doesn't understand what unconstitutional means. Lol

It must mean we have to let Americans get killed, right? DERP!

 

[Reasonable]

Which is doing something....

Yeah, keeping terrorists out is doing something.
Count on a liberal to be against that....DERP!

But again, the OP said they aren't keeping terrorists out by doing this.

It said that they become dangerous, after they're here.
Sounds like a good reason to keep them out.....all of them.

Genius doesn't understand what unconstitutional means. Lol

It must mean we have to let Americans get killed, right? DERP!

Wow.... Trump has really instilled a shitload of fear into you.
So let's just rip up the Constitution because snowflakes like you are skeered.

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither liberty nor Safety."

Ben Franklin

 

[Reasonable]

Most Trumpies don't know about this breaking news

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Good point. Keep them all out of the US, until we no longer have a policy.
Then keep them out longer. Just to be safe.

Yeah let's rip up the Constitution .. just for the illusion of safety.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Ben Franklin

There is nothing in the Constitution that even hints at any obligation, on our part, as a nation, to allow foreigners of any kind into our nation, much less the criminals, terrorists, and other subhuman filth that your side wants to invite in.

 

[Reasonable]

Good point. Keep them all out of the US, until we no longer have a policy.
Then keep them out longer. Just to be safe.

Yeah let's rip up the Constitution .. just for the illusion of safety.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Ben Franklin

There is nothing in the Constitution that even hints at any obligation, on our part, as a nation, to allow foreigners of any kind into our nation, much less the criminals, terrorists, and other subhuman filth that your side wants to invite in.

Yes sure. I've seen those signs by " my side"
" Bring us you criminals, terrorists and other subhuman filth."
I actually have one right here.

You're filled with hatred and stupidity that one post of mine isn't going to help you.
So where's comrade'snewest travel ban? He said the situation is" grave and urgent."
Evidently it's not that grave and urgent.
You've been duped by a snake oil salesman.
Congratulations for proving PT Barnum right.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Ah, it's always good to do something to others, don't need to solve the problem, just need to feel good about pretending it's always someone else, right?

Ah, it's always good to do something to others

Do something to others? Nah, just keep them out of the US.

Which is doing something....

Yeah, keeping terrorists out is doing something.
Count on a liberal to be against that....DERP!

But again, the OP said they aren't keeping terrorists out by doing this.

It said that they become dangerous, after they're here.
Sounds like a good reason to keep them out.....all of them.

How many get dangerous?

I mean, enough Americans get dangerous in America, far, far more than Muslims.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

How many get dangerous?

I mean, enough Americans get dangerous in America, far, far more than Muslims.

That we have enough problems with our own domestic criminals is not a goodn argument in favor of bringing in foreign criminals.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yeah, keeping terrorists out is doing something.
Count on a liberal to be against that....DERP!

But again, the OP said they aren't keeping terrorists out by doing this.

It said that they become dangerous, after they're here.
Sounds like a good reason to keep them out.....all of them.

Genius doesn't understand what unconstitutional means. Lol

It must mean we have to let Americans get killed, right? DERP!

Wow.... Trump has really instilled a shitload of fear into you.
So let's just rip up the Constitution because snowflakes like you are skeered.

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither liberty nor Safety."

Ben Franklin

So let's just rip up the Constitution because snowflakes like you are skeered.

Still looking for the part of the Constitution that says we have to let in Muslims.

 

[vlad_hombre]

So your argument is even extreme vetting doesn't work so we should just let them all in.

Hey, just a thought, flathead, why don't you go over there and vet all of them for us. And the first one you find OK can have your job here. Deal?

Or, maybe we could start acting like real Americans and stop with all the discrimination and making wars and sowing discord all over the globe.

No, wait ...

... that is how real Americans act.

Never mind.

 

[busybee01]

The real outrage is the second part of the story. DHS gave some story about it being incomplete. The bottom line is that they are going to try and white wash it to support Trump's position. I suspect that is why he has not re-announced his ban. They are trying to make a intelligence report fit into support Trump's position. They are trying to corrupt our intelligence agencies by inserting politics into it. The authors of the report said they will not assist in the effort. Good for them. Glad to know there is some integrity somewhere.