Desantis flaming out: -19 in recent FL approval

[Harpy Eagle]

So all of the people who say that they want porn in schools are lying?

 

[beautress]

Looks like instead of winning over more people in his trek to become President he is alienating people as they watch his bumbling. Desantis is already unlikeable and now has a record of championing highly unpopular legislation. Looks like the GOP is all Trump’s if he stays out of jail.

Most Floridians Disapprove of State’s Direction, DeSantis’ Approval Rating Drops by 19 Points in New Poll

Is the Sunshine State barreling down the wrong track? After the 2023 Legislative Session, a significant majority of the state’s electorate believes this to be true.

theamericanonews.com

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Before this spring’s state legislative session, a majority of Floridians believed the state was on the right track (46% right track / 42% wrong track). As the session came to a close, however, 50% believe the state is headed in the wrong direction, while only 42% think it’s on the right track.

Pollsters Florida Watch and Progress Florida, collectively known as the Florida Communications and Research Hub (Hub), attribute this shift in their surveys to Floridians’ growing dissatisfaction with the agenda carried out by Gov. Ron DeSantis and legislators in Tallahassee.

“When we look back on this legislative session, it is clear Floridians do not believe that Gov. DeSantis and legislative leaders focused on the priorities they believed would improve their lives,” said Progress Florida Executive Director Mark Ferrulo.

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Florida is the retirement state if there ever was one. Residents don't care to lose their senior benefits, no matter how small. A person who has had dementia from the time he was 63 might take humbrage over losing his benefits for the next 7 years. Dementia doesn't prevent hostility. Just look at President Biden spewing hatred on ALL Republicans, calling us "fascists" which we hear on the radio on the way to our Charity Work Day. And have you told me lately how you hate me, Wolfman?

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[Couchpotato]

So, no family pictures should be allowed on the teachers desk or their computer desk top, as that would show how someone is sleeping with.

Doesnt say you cant say husband or wife, doesnt say you cant have family pictures, doesnt say you cant refer to the sex of your spouse. Did you even read the bill? You just cant discuss sexual orientation or gender identity.

"prohibiting classroom 22 discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity 23 in certain grade levels or in a specified manner;"

That's the only sentence fragment in a 7 page bill that has anything to do with what you're whining about. The vast majority of the bill deals with not allowing schools to keep information from parents. That we needed a law to state that is a sad state of affairs.

You'll notice it doesnt say teachers cant mention their husband or wife regardless of their gender. It doesnt say you cant talk about your family. You're just not allowed to talk about your sexual orientation. The horror.

 

[Couchpotato]

Talk about PC police. That’s ridiculous. You want to control the casual words said inside the United States like it’s a 1984 novel. I’ve never had anyone talk about their “spouse”. That’s an insurance category.

Shit spouse is an indication a person is having sex. Let’s get rid of that too. Cant have kids thinking their teacher is having sex cuz she’s married. You guys are nuts.

Zero mentioning teachers have kids of their own i mean they likely had sex to get pregnant and we don’t want sex in schools. You guys are nuts.

Maybe you should read the actual bill. I know it's 7 pages and that's a lot for you but here I'll quote the pertinant part for you to make it easy.

prohibiting classroom 22 discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity 23 in certain grade levels or in a specified manner;

That's what you're crying about. 1 sentence fragment in a 7 page bill that doesn't prohibit any of the shit you say it does.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Doesnt say you cant say husband or wife, doesnt say you cant have family pictures, doesnt say you cant refer to the sex of your spouse. Did you even read the bill? You just cant discuss sexual orientation or gender identity.

All of those things relate to sexual orientation. I a male speaks of his wife, then he is discussing his sexual orientation no different than if he speaks of his husband.

 

[Couchpotato]

All of those things relate to sexual orientation. I a male speaks of his wife, then he is discussing his sexual orientation no different than if he speaks of his husband.

No it doesnt. 1st graders dont make that leap. Unless you push them off that cliff. Their 1st grade female teacher saying she went hiking with her wife doesnt lead into a sexual orientation discussion and if it started going in that direction for whatever reason the teacher should move away from it immediately law or no law.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

No it doesnt. 1st graders dont make that leap. Unless you push them off that cliff. Their 1st grade female teacher saying she went hiking with her wife doesnt lead into a sexual orientation discussion and if it started going in that direction for whatever reason the teacher should move away from it immediately law or no law.

Simply stating she went on a hike with her wife qualifies as a discussion on sexual orientation and all it takes is one parent whose first grader comes home and tell them about their teaching going on a hike with her wife suing the school for allowing it, and under the law the school would lose and the teacher would be unemployed for that innocent story.

Thus the problem with the bill.

 

[Ralph Norton]

I seriously believe that DeSantis has some "mental" issues.

Says the pot to the kettle.

 

[Couchpotato]

Simply stating she went on a hike with her wife qualifies as a discussion on sexual orientation and all it takes is one parent whose first grader comes home and tell them about their teaching going on a hike with her wife suing the school for allowing it, and under the law the school would lose and the teacher would be unemployed for that innocent story.

Thus the problem with the bill.

Only in your head. Link to anyone being fired because they said anything of the sort. Dont bother looking because it hasnt happened. This is nothing more than the LGBTQIA+ community and their sycophants crying about something that a) isnt happening and b) isnt targetting them.

 

[Frankenstein]

No one is PUSHING homo's, except teabaggers.
They exist, I ignore.
Gay porn?
Where? On FOX?
Don't make eye contact with a homo, that will turn you gay.

LA Pride Parade Draws Backlash For Inappropriate Content In Crowd Of Children

A LA pride parade has drawn viral attention for users showcasing videos of children being exposed to contentious sexual content.

go2tutors.com

It is total perversion, you are totally cool with kids being exposed to the worst garbage imaginable though

 

[Billiejeens]

You'll notice it doesnt say teachers cant mention their husband or wife regardless of their gender. It doesnt say you cant talk about your family. You're just not allowed to talk about your sexual orientation. The horror.

It is horror to them.
They need this new generation of allies to forward their extreme positions.

 

[Smokin' OP]

LA Pride Parade Draws Backlash For Inappropriate Content In Crowd Of Children

A LA pride parade has drawn viral attention for users showcasing videos of children being exposed to contentious sexual content.

go2tutors.com

It is total perversion, you are totally cool with kids being exposed to the worst garbage imaginable though

I wouldn't have my kids there, when they were younger.
Because I would have to explain it and..............I couldn't.

 

[Lesh]

Doesnt say you cant say husband or wife, doesnt say you cant have family pictures, doesnt say you cant refer to the sex of your spouse. Did you even read the bill? You just cant discuss sexual orientation or gender identity.

"prohibiting classroom 22 discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity 23 in certain grade levels or in a specified manner;"

That's the only sentence fragment in a 7 page bill that has anything to do with what you're whining about. The vast majority of the bill deals with not allowing schools to keep information from parents. That we needed a law to state that is a sad state of affairs.

You'll notice it doesnt say teachers cant mention their husband or wife regardless of their gender. It doesnt say you cant talk about your family. You're just not allowed to talk about your sexual orientation. The horror.

“Classroom discussions”

“Who’s that in that picture?”

Banned

 

[Couchpotato]

“Classroom discussions”

“Who’s that in that picture?”

Banned

No it isnt. This is the problem. You assume the 2nd grader thinks like you do. My husband or my wife. End of discussion. There's no talk of sex. There's no discussion. If the child tries to start one it's get back to you seat we have lessons to learn or talk to your parents. See how easy that is? And I dont even have a degree in education.



Feel free to post a link of a teacher being fired for having a picture of their same sex or opposite sex spouse on their desk. I wont hold by breath waiting.

Also feel free to post the language in the bill that treats gay sexual orientation different than any other orientation.

 

[Lesh]

No it isnt. This is the problem. You assume the 2nd grader thinks like you do. My husband or my wife. End of discussion. There's no talk of sex. There's no discussion. If the child tries to start one it's get back to you seat we have lessons to learn or talk to your parents. See how easy that is? And I dont even have a degree in education.



Feel free to post a link of a teacher being fired for having a picture of their same sex or opposite sex spouse on their desk. I wont hold by breath waiting.

Also feel free to post the language in the bill that treats gay sexual orientation different than any other orientation.

And that kid goes home and tells their MAGA parents that "Mrs. Haney is married to a GIRL!"

Boom...Teacher in trouble

 

[Couchpotato]

And that kid goes home and tells their MAGA parents that "Mrs. Haney is married to a GIRL!"

Boom...Teacher in trouble

Waiting on the link to that happening.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Only in your head. Link to anyone being fired because they said anything of the sort. Dont bother looking because it hasnt happened. This is nothing more than the LGBTQIA+ community and their sycophants crying about something that a) isnt happening and b) isnt targetting them.

The law is new, give it time

 

[Couchpotato]

The law is new, give it time

And if it does happen they can work to massage it. Right now it's all just screaming and crying about shit that hasnt and isnt happening. It's also a wild mischaracterization of what the bill says and does in furtherance of a political narrative, which you're participating in "Mr Independant"....

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

You guys have an interesting definition of ”great job”.

What ‘Make America Florida’ Might Actually Mean - The Keystone Newsroom

Gov. Ron DeSantis has argued that Florida is thriving and is the freest state in the country, but the data and evidence suggests otherwise.

keystonenewsroom.com

Despite DeSantis’ claims of “tangible results,” the state’s socioeconomic indicators show a lackluster picture.

• Florida ranks #1 in the US in housing unaffordability, with 56.5% of renters spending 30% or more of their income on housing. Years of “sweeping” money from the Sadowski Housing Trust Fund to fund other projects have resulted in the state losing out on 94,000 affordable housing units, according to the Florida Housing Coalition.
• The state is #2 in mass shootings. On average, someone is killed with a gun every three hours in Florida. Guns are also the third-leading cause of death for Florida children ages 1–17, according to data provided by Giffords Law Center.
• Florida is #50 in providing long-term care services and supports for elderly people among all 50 states, according to the American Association of Retired Persons.
• It is also #41 in access to health care due to DeSantis’ refusal to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act, despite having the federal funds to do it. This leaves close to a million Floridians without health care coverage.
• When it comes to tax fairness, the Sunshine State ranks #45.
• It also ranks #47 in unemployment benefits. Despite inflation and the higher cost of living, DeSantis refuses to increase Florida’s unemployment benefits from a maximum of $275 per week, a cap that was set in 1998. Adjusted for today’s dollars, that would come to $485 maximum per week.
• The cost of home insurance is rising fast as the market struggles to deal with stronger hurricanes due to the climate crisis. The Sierra Club, a grassroots environmental organization in the US, assigning DeSantis a “D-” grade for his “refusal to address the climate crisis at its root, [which] has left Floridians at increased risk of more destructive and powerful storms.”

And given all these problem and failures, DeSantis and Florida Republicans prioritize attacking gay and transgender Americans and violating their civil rights.

Republicans have contempt for sound, responsible governance.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

So all of the people who say that they want porn in schools are lying?
The people who are covering it up - what is it that you think they are actually covering up?
The parents that read passages from school textbooks in school board meetings that were censored for reading pornographic materials - what is your method for brushing those away?

No, you and other conservatives are lying.

As already correctly noted: no one wants pornography in schools.