Dept of Ed spending soared 749% despite downsizing, new DOGE-inspired initiative reveals

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yup. They hate kids, and puppies, and fresh flowers.

Yup. NY spends $25K per student and is ranked 12th in the country
FL spends $10K per student and is ranked #1

Per Pupil Spending by State 2025

worldpopulationreview.com

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education

You might want to check your Florida stats. We spent $10K per student when I taught there in 2005. I know because I was the AP. The actual school got only about $4K of the money.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Well, it works for the elementary school kids.

But once they get to middle or high school, I agree parents are not equipped to teach specialized subjects. Unless the parents have $20k per kid to spend on private, they’re screwed. The answer of course is to relocate to a red state, but that’s not so easy.

Agreed, unless the parent is a high school dropout like some of the elementary "teachers" in Florida's private religious schools around the year 2000.

 

[Rawley]

You might want to check your Florida stats. We spent $10K per student when I taught there in 2005. I know because I was the AP. The actual school got only about $4K of the money.

Florida is up slightly to $11.6
NY is up to $32K

Average Public School Spending / Student (2024-25)

View the national and state averages for public school spending / student (2024-25)

www.publicschoolreview.com

 

[WorldWatcher]

Department of Education Budget in 2019 (Trump Administration) was $104 Billion.

Department of Education Budget in 2025 (Trump Administration, but a carry over from the Biden Administration) was $141 Billion.

Now let's discount the wild swing as the country was dealing with the COVID Pandemic in '20, '21, and '22.
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So could someone explain to me how an increase of $37 Billion over 5 years is a 749% increase?

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U.S. Department of Education - outlays 2029 | Statista

The United States Department of Education had outlays of about 639.37 U.S.

www.statista.com

NOTE: '26-'29 are projections before anyone asks.

 

[Rawley]

So could someone explain to me how an increase of $37 Billion over 5 years is a 749% increase?

Because it's a 749% increase since the year 2000. Not sure where you got the year 2019 from.

 

[hadit]

Well except for the fact that one teacher is completely unqualified to teach multiple subjects at higher grades. I taught math, history and science classes in schools, but I found substitute teaching in language arts classes to be both a challenge and boring as hell! I would never teach my own kids on those topics. I could never do as good of a job as their teachers in my high school. My son and daughter-in-law had a Language Arts teacher that was a Reserve Green Beret. Both joined the Army because of him. My son wrote most of the award's packages for his units in the Army.

That's why parents use an online curriculum with certified teachers on the other end of the line to answer questions that Mom and Dad might struggle with. We did that and it worked like a charm. Both my wife and I are college graduates, so we weren't mystified by stuff, but it was nice to know all our kids needed to do was connect with a teacher to get one-on-one help if they had questions. It was good for foreign languages as well, since the teacher could hear if they got the accent right or not.

Such parents can homeschool their kids without being required to do the actual teaching themselves.

 

[debbiedowner]

Yup. They hate kids, and puppies, and fresh flowers.

Yup. NY spends $25K per student and is ranked 12th in the country
FL spends $10K per student and is ranked #1

Per Pupil Spending by State 2025

worldpopulationreview.com

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education

patially right

U.S. Public Education Spending Statistics [2025]: per Pupil + Total

Find out how much the U.S. spends on public education and how the costs break down per student, by state and by level of government.

educationdata.org

The best states for public education in 2025

What are the best states for public education in 2024? ConsumerAffairs analyzed the data across four key metrics to rank each state.

www.consumeraffairs.com

Florida no where near number 1.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

That's why parents use an online curriculum with certified teachers on the other end of the line to answer questions that Mom and Dad might struggle with. We did that and it worked like a charm. Both my wife and I are college graduates, so we weren't mystified by stuff, but it was nice to know all our kids needed to do was connect with a teacher to get one-on-one help if they had questions. It was good for foreign languages as well, since the teacher could hear if they got the accent right or not.

Such parents can homeschool their kids without being required to do the actual teaching themselves.

My granddaughter attends a virtual high school here in TN. I have no problem with homeschooling, when it is done well and for the right reasons. But as a retired teacher, I can tell you that virtual schooling has severe drawbacks. When I was teaching, I was on a teacher task force to evaluate and implement virtual remediation classes for students who were failing in class. After a year of looking at the program, my colleagues and I recommended against it because it was completely ineffective.

With my granddaughter, my son and daughter-in-law are both well-educated and fill in the gaps. Besides, grandpa is now only a phone call or 5-minute drive away.

 

[rightwinger]

Go down to the city level. State level is useless, since some of the worst DemoKKKrat shitholes are in red states.

Same for crime stats.

You know this, but I understand why you have to lie about it.

 

[DBA]

Blue states are also very good at getting results
Top ranked states are all Blue
Worst states for education are Red

That is not about money. Do some research.

 

[marvin martian]

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I like the way you surrender, boy.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Since I don’t believe the DOGE claim to begin with, I feel no obligation to “justify” Musk’s made up claim.

no, you can’t justify any spending by DoEd. Obligation had nothing to do with it. You were shown empirical data that questions the spending and outcomes and you ran.

 

[Hollie]

Blue states are also very good at getting results
Top ranked states are all Blue
Worst states for education are Red

Oh yeah. Those blue states are getting results in Chicago, New York and Philadelphia.

 

[Lisa558]

Oh yeah. Those blue states are getting results in Chicago, New York and Philadelphia.

Don’t forget Baltimore. Not a single high school kid scored proficient in math - throughout the ENTIRE public school system.