Deportations:Obama vs Trump

[AntonToo]

He rounded 'em up and put 'em in cages, you fucking liar.

Detention is not contradictory to due process dummy.

 

[jc456]

So border agents...did something else??

Where did you get that idea from? Make it up? Some politico asshole told it to you?

see, he gave you yet another answer and again you deflected. You asked he answered.

 

[SeaMajor7]

...Not send people to jail in foreign countries without a hearing and at tiems against judges orders?

You really don't know whats going on, do you?

Judges DO NOT run foreign policy in this country.
The President of El Salvador put those deportees in jail, NOT TRUMP.

 

[AntonToo]

From the fact they didn’t enforce the law and allowed millions to surge the border

Again, you are not answering the question - WHERE DID YOU GET THAT IDEA FROM?

In 2019 there was a big spike at the border, why aren't you talking about it as if thats Trump allowing something? When there is a bigger spike under Biden after Covid lul you are certian that it's because Biden allowed something.

 

[struth]

...Not send people to jail in foreign countries without a hearing and at tiems against judges orders?

You really don't know whats going on, do you?

Obama deported millions without a hearings.

Not sure what you mean "against judges" -

I do, you apparently don't....educate yourself Speed Over Fairness: Deportation Under the Obama Administration | ACLU

By contrast, nonjudicial removals are fast-track proceedings wholly controlled by the Department of Homeland Security ("DHS"), sometimes involving only a single border agent who acts as both judge and jury. Those facing nonjudicial removal have no lawyer and no chance to appeal.

The Obama administration has prioritized speed over fairness in the removal system, sacrificing individualized due process in the pursuit of record removal numbers.

The Deportation Dilemma: Reconciling Tough and Humane Enforcement

This report profiles the current-era deportation system, exploring the new legal authorities, spending increases, and policy changes over the last two decades that have resulted in the removal of more than 4.5 million unauthorized immigrants since 1996. The report analyzes key trends in border...

www.migrationpolicy.org

The United States has deported a record number of unauthorized immigrants and other removable noncitizens in recent years. More than 4.5 million noncitizens have been removed since Congress passed sweeping legislation in 1996 to toughen the nation’s immigration enforcement system. The pace of formal removals has quickened tremendously, rising from about 70,000 in 1996 to 419,000 in 2012.

This report analyzes the current pipelines for removal and key trends in border and interior apprehensions, deportations and criminal prosecutions. With the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) in the midst of a review of its deportation policies to see if they can be conducted “more humanely,” the report also examines the policy levers the Obama administration has to influence deportation policies, practices and results.

 

[Oddball]

Detention is not contradictory to due process dummy.

blablablalabla

Meanwhile, none of you contemptible sanctimonious shitbags gave fuck #1, while J6-ers were held in indefinite confinement for nearly four years over misdemeanors.

Due process indeed....GFY

 

[struth]

Again, you are not answering the question - WHERE DID YOU GET THAT IDEA FROM?

from the fact that he allowed millions in,
The Biden Administration Has Brought an Additional 6.7 Million Illegal Aliens into the U.S.: Fiscal, Economic and Social Consequences

https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/116759/witnesses/HMTG-118-IF02-Wstate-RectorR-20240117.pdf

 

[struth]

Detention is not contradictory to due process dummy.

where did you get this idea? People all over the country are being held in detention awaiting out comes of trials

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Thats right bullshit peddler, you don't know wtf you are talking about and can't rationally explain anything.

All two bit idiots like you are good for is getting all worked up about partisan trash some mouthpiece pumps you full of.

 

[AntonToo]

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Yep one more not-a-rational-explaination.

Just another thought free, stupid meme.

 

[AntonToo]

Obama deported millions without a hearings.

Who did obama put in foreign jail without due process or deport against judge's order?

NO ONE, so take you goalpost moving and shove it you know where.

 

[Orangecat]

Recently Trump supporters have claimed that Trump is using the same criteria for deportation as Obama.

The criteria for being deported is being here illegally. I couldn’t care less which POTUS uses it.

 

[struth]

Who did obama put in foreign jail without due process or deport against judge's order?

NO ONE, so take you goalpost moving and shove it you know where.

I have no idea who was deported during the Obama admin that ended up in jail in their country....why should I care?

Obama admin certainly made some mistakes, you don't think that over 8 years they never made a mistake? hahahah

here are a few examples:

Obama Administration Defies Court’s Directive; Settles Syrians in Texas Without Advance Notice or Information​

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/releases/obama-administration-defies-courts-directive-settles-syrians-texas-without-advance-notice-or

Obama defies federal judge, fails to rescind wrongly issued amnesties​

Obama defies federal judge, fails to rescind wrongly issued amnesties

The Obama administration still hasn’t fully rescinded the 2,000 three-year amnesties it wrongly issued four months ago in violation of a court order, government lawyers recently admitted in court, spurring a stern response from the judge who said the matter must be cleaned up by the end of July...

www.washingtontimes.com

 

[LeftofLeft]

Recently Trump supporters have claimed that Trump is using the same criteria for deportation as Obama.

That’s not true and here is an excellent description of the differences

Obama deportations vs. Trump: Context is everything. | CNN Politics

President Donald Trump wants to deport a lot of people this weekend. “You know what? They came in illegally. They have to go out,” he told reporters Friday as he confirmed that planned immigration raids would go ahead in certain cities starting this weekend.

amp.cnn.com

You people can’t win on Immigration. Under Obama and Biden Administrations were in power, you bragged on their deportation numbers while ignoring the numbers of illegals coming in under their lax immigration enforcement (“open border”) policy. If you are going to let record number of illegals in then the least you can do is set record deportation numbers.

Now that Trump is actually doing something about it, you aren’t so happy with deportation.

Accept the fact that your side is pro- open borders…. to the point you don’t care about violent gangs, murderers, rapists, drug dealers, and sex traffickers invade our neighborhoods. You people gave more shits about vetting American Citizens having vaccinations while letting mass illegals come through vaccination free.

 

[AntonToo]

I have no idea who was deported during the Obama admin that ended up in jail in their country....why should I care?

More bullshit, they didn't "end up in jail", they were specifically sent to jail by the Trump administration who made a deal with El Salvador and paid $6 million for it.

 

[Care4all]

Problem is, you cannot demonstrate this to be true.
Don't feel bad - neither can anyone else.

The lawsuit court cases speak to it.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The lawsuit court cases speak to it.

You have absolutely no idea if this is true or not, and you certainly cannot demonstrate such.

 

[Orangecat]

More bullshit, they didn't "end up in jail", they were specifically sent to jail by the Trump administration who made a deal with El Salvador and paid $6 million for it.

Cry harder, bitch. There are consequences for coming here illegally. The more dire, the more secure our border becomes.

 

[IDIOCRACY]

Difference is orange man BAD

 

[struth]

More bullshit, they didn't "end up in jail", they were specifically sent to jail by the Trump administration who made a deal with El Salvador and paid $6 million for it.

How do you know that none of the millions he deported didn't end up in jail?

Trump has given El Salavador grants to help them fight crime, in case you weren't aware El Salvador was overrun by terrorist gangs for some time.

Trump is deporting El Savadorians that are here illegally to El Salvador, El Salvador has also agreed to take Venezuluans because their home country doesn't even want them.

Not sure your point.