Blacks and women aren’t completely wrong to complain. My brother is a vp at a Fortune 500. He laughs because the ceo talks about diversity but has no blacks or women working for him. No vps that is.
And the guy just brought in ten white dudes my brother says serve absolutely no value to the company. Not that he can see.
White men have control of the hiring and firing. I’m not complaining I’m a white male
I agree.
But my point in all of this is simply that blacks have to find ways to develop a culture that values education, hard work, self-reliance, etc. As is stands, in some areas young blacks who DO try to educate themselves will be ridiculed by the lazy thugs who do nothing but hang out on the streets and cause problems.
Hell, I had some black buddies who would refer to blacks wearing professional attire downtown as "colored persons". It was a put-down they used out of stupidity against other blacks who were working in a professional environment and trying to get ahead. THIS is not a problem caused by whites. It's a problem that exists in the black sub-culture that thuggish young blacks immerse themselves in.
They'll never get ahead if they don't begin to seriously educate themselves and prepare to enter the workforce with some useful skills. And no one wants to hire, or work with, a black person with a shitty attitude toward whites. There's a lot more to working than simply showing up. You have to bring something to the table.
No one owes any of us a living.
Develop a culture? Cultures are built over decades and centuries and are slow to change. The triggers for change are almost always external, not internal. For example, the civil rights law made racial discrimination illegal. Integration in public schools resulted in a better education environment for people of color. Various changes in government and higher education has made possible more blacks attending college. Changes in hiring practices put more blacks in higher paying jobs.
Counter to these develops are the loss in blue collar jobs and the loss in buying power of those wages driving many further into poverty. Just as damaging has been the loss of the traditional family structure which has been more devastating to black communities than whites since blacks have less financial means.
I think you’re picking nits. Or maybe you're just being an arrogant asshole. Further, your post came off as so clinical that it sounds as if you’ve known precious few blacks, or, if you have known any, you’ve probably spent so little time with them that you’ve learned nothing about them.
Culture is a difficult concept. Even experts have problems defining it.
We have an over-arching American culture, and countless ethnic / racial sub-cultures. There are also gang cultures, and some corporations develop their own desired culture. (Oh, excuse me, did I say “develop”).
Of course they “develop” their corporate culture. They decide what they want it to be, and go about “developing” it. Apple and Google, for instance, have their own cultures. And they certainly did not allow them to come about haphazardly.
It’s true also, that blacks, like any other ethnic or racial group, have their own culture. But there are also sub-cultures within the black community that are defined by the thinking and behavior of many of the young people who, of course, have their own ideas about how to behave, think, dress, live, etc.
But I’m speaking of the young thugs, gang members, and the young people who are influenced by them. In the thinking of the young people (thugs) I’m talking about, a positive view of education, work, self-reliance, etc., does not exist. In fact, members sharing this sub-culture look down on all these ideas. They ridicule and insult other young people within their communities who DO try to educate themselves, or who learn and use correct English when speaking, and so on.
This sub-culture has developed over decades, and the results have been deadly, literally, for the black community as a whole. Look at Chicago, Baltimore, and several other big cities with large black populations. The majority of the crimes are committed by young blacks who share this thug sub-culture (call it what you will). They not only tolerate, but seek out violence. They steal what they want, do drugs, commit murder and rape, and they seem to have NO interest in EVER working for a living.
Experts say that culture is dynamic, it is ALWAYS changing. And one important aspect of culture is what people THINK. I would argue that with the internet, social media, and mass media, cultures are changing much more rapidly today than ever before. And much faster, certainly, than you or I could know. And a lot of what the young black thugs and criminals are thinking about, involves ideas that would make you shit in your fucking shoes.
So yes, I think we do a LOT to “develop” and change our culture. If these young blacks are ever going to change course, their ‘thinking’ and values have to change. That sub-culture has been developing on its own, over time, and look at the results.
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can be influenced by “outside factors” — members of the greater black community, who can help to guide and influence, and yes, help DEVELOP and modify the sub-culture of violence that is so damaging to so many young people.
ONLY members of the larger black community can encourage these changes in thinking. They can encourage young people to think about education and work in more positive ways. They can help them think about self-respect, the value of a work ethic, etc. Blacks absolutely do NOT want whites telling them what to think or what to do. They DO want money and lots of other free stuff from whites, but that’s another story.
You mention laws that make it possible for blacks to get a better education, attend college etc. Those laws have done little, or nothing, to influence the huge numbers of blacks hanging out on the streets. And they have done little, or nothing, to change the very real and negative culture these, mostly young, people embrace.
Listen to the fucking music, read and listen to the more popular and radical speakers. Go to the local clubs and after hours joints. Meet some of the young thugs and ordinary young blacks. Make some black friends, REAL people you grow to know and care about (Gasp!). Spend a LOT of time with them and get to truly know them. Then maybe you’ll get a fucking clue. Your post sounds like all of your ideas about blacks came out of a sanitized, never-before-opened text book.
Apologies to other members that we hi-jacked this thread for a couple of posts.
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Anthropologists have been discussing and debating definitions of culture since the origin of the discipline in the 19th century. In 1952 two prominent American anthropologists, Alfred Kroeber and Clyde Kluckhohn, published an entire volume cataloging different definitions of culture. A useful summary of that discussion, grouping their 160 different definitions into eight categories, is provided by John Bodley in his Cultural Anthropology: Tribes, States and the Global System (1994). Bodley goes on to distill what is useful in these categories and to define culture in a useful way. Culture, he suggests, is made up of at least three components: what people think, what they do, and the material products they produce. The problem with defining culture as shared values and beliefs, as some anthropologists do, is that there can be a vast difference between what people think they ought to do (value) and what they actually do (behavior).
Culture, here understood as the totality of what a group of people think, how they behave, and what they produce that is passed on to future generations, is what binds us together as human beings but also separates us into our different communities.
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