Democrats' white male problem

[bill718]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

Decades ago, my father, a WW2 Vet worked as a pipefitter out of a labor union. Like most of his fellow pipefitters at the time, he was a pro labor, pro union Democrat.

White working class males were the backbone of the Democratic party for many years, but recently things have changed. In their headlong pursuit of diversity, the Democratic party have showcased women and minorities to the point of white males having been marginalized and even scorned by the Democrats as racist, sexist bigots, and often treated as 2nd class citizens. Not surprisingly, this has caused many working class white men to drift to the GOP where they feel more accepted. This stupid move by the left wing has been the reason democrats have lost elections.

Democrats - get it through your head. White males vote in large numbers, and if you don't start making them feel more valued in your "big tent" that tent won't be big enough, and you'll just keep losing.

 

[kyzr]

My unofficial poll of old union guys is that they are generally Trump supporters.
They prefer the new populist GOP to the new socialist DNC.

 

[Mac1958]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

Decades ago, my father, a WW2 Vet worked as a pipefitter out of a labor union. Like most of his fellow pipefitters at the time, he was a pro labor, pro union Democrat.

White working class males were the backbone of the Democratic party for many years, but recently things have changed. In their headlong pursuit of diversity, the Democratic party have showcased women and minorities to the point of white males having been marginalized and even scorned by the Democrats as racist, sexist bigots. Not surprisingly, this has caused many working class white men to drift to the GOP where they feel more accepted. This stupid move by the left wing has been the reason democrats have lost elections, and if the left wing does not stop treating white males as 2nd class citizens, they are going to continue to lose.

Democrats - get it through your head. White males vote in large numbers, and if you don't start making them feel more valued in your "big tent" that tent won't be big enough, and you'll just keep losing.

The problem here is that the party is now largely under the control of the illiberal leftist authoritarians who are 100% committed to political correctness and identity politics.

So white men (and particularly straight white men) are welcome to come along for the ride, their votes are appreciated for sure, but at this point they are simply second class citizens who'd damn well better know their place and watch what they say.

That's just the reality at this point.
.

 

[hjmick]

I'm starting to get the impression that "White Males" are to root of all the world's woes... I feel like I'm haven't been doing my part...

 

[initforme]

As a white male it's hard to fathom where this so called war on white males is happening. White males might vote a certain way but there is no such war on us. If you can't keep your hands off of females at work because of some abnormal urge then that's your problem.

 

[colfax_m]

White male here. White men have been in charge of the country since its founding. The idea that trying to level the playing field so that non-white makes can have a seat at the table is not “threatening”.

 

[Disir]

I'm starting to get the impression that "White Males" are to root of all the world's woes... I feel like I'm haven't been doing my part...

What can I do to help you?


I can do some of this or some of this or some of this

I can call you names if you like. It's all about inclusion.

 

[Correll]

As a white male it's hard to fathom where this so called war on white males is happening. White males might vote a certain way but there is no such war on us. If you can't keep your hands off of females at work because of some abnormal urge then that's your problem.

The op made some points. YOu might want to address them if you are going to post in the thread.


Otherwise, it looks like you are just trying to bury the points, in flat denials, because you support the negative behavior, but cannot defend it.


Which makes you a bad person.

 

[Correll]

White male here. White men have been in charge of the country since its founding. The idea that trying to level the playing field so that non-white makes can have a seat at the table is not “threatening”.

Except that no one is complaining about a level playing field. THe complaints were vague, but clearly not that.


So, you want to address what was actually said, instead of the strawman you made up?

 

[MarathonMike]

The Democrats attack everyone who made America the envy of the world. That would be predominantly White males, successful people and Christians. Conversely they support opening the borders to any undocumented person that shows up. And they bash the brave Americans in the Police Force and the Military who literally risk their lives every day.

 

[FA_Q2]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

Decades ago, my father, a WW2 Vet worked as a pipefitter out of a labor union. Like most of his fellow pipefitters at the time, he was a pro labor, pro union Democrat.

White working class males were the backbone of the Democratic party for many years, but recently things have changed. In their headlong pursuit of diversity, the Democratic party have showcased women and minorities to the point of white males having been marginalized and even scorned by the Democrats as racist, sexist bigots. Not surprisingly, this has caused many working class white men to drift to the GOP where they feel more accepted. This stupid move by the left wing has been the reason democrats have lost elections, and if the left wing does not stop treating white males as 2nd class citizens, they are going to continue to lose.

Democrats - get it through your head. White males vote in large numbers, and if you don't start making them feel more valued in your "big tent" that tent won't be big enough, and you'll just keep losing.

The problem here is that the party is now largely under the control of the illiberal leftist authoritarians who are 100% committed to political correctness and identity politics.

So white men (and particularly straight white men) are welcome to come along for the ride, their votes are appreciated for sure, but at this point they are simply second class citizens who'd damn well better know their place and watch what they say.

That's just the reality at this point.
.

It is a reality that the dems have to deal with. Hopes of demographics saving the party are not going to go well.

 

[Mac1958]

It is a reality that the dems have to deal with. Hopes of demographics saving the party are not going to go well.

I think the party began relying on demographics too early.

Things might well change in time, but they thought this was OVER when Obama won.
.

 

[DustyInfinity]

I knew the democrats lost their shit when their representatives and the media started to attack actual voters instead of their political rivals. Then they all scratch their heads trying to figure out why they can't change poll numbers. Here's a hint, it isn't a good idea to attack voters when you are looking for votes.

 

[Correll]

I knew the democrats lost their shit when their representatives and the media started to attack actual voters instead of their political rivals. Then they all scratch their heads trying to figure out why they can't change poll numbers. Here's a hint, it isn't a good idea to attack voters when you are looking for votes.

I'v pointed out that difference to some of them. They can't seem to grasp it. At all.

 

[FA_Q2]

As a white male it's hard to fathom where this so called war on white males is happening. White males might vote a certain way but there is no such war on us. If you can't keep your hands off of females at work because of some abnormal urge then that's your problem.

If you do not see what he is talking about then you are willfully blind.

 

[mudwhistle]

As a white male it's hard to fathom where this so called war on white males is happening. White males might vote a certain way but there is no such war on us. If you can't keep your hands off of females at work because of some abnormal urge then that's your problem.

It's not about fondling girls, you twit. ......It's about a transformation of America from a predominantly European country with White Middle-Class Christian values...into a country dominated by Hispanics, Blacks, Muslims, and homosexuals. The funny thing is the party pushing this transformation is being led by a bunch of 70 year old Jewish and Catholic millionaires with a penchant for Pedophilia. They are what they claim hate the most.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Democommiecrats are going to fix the white male problem by bringing in thousands of Africans illegally.

Record number of African migrants at U.S.-Mexico border

 

[imawhosure]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

Decades ago, my father, a WW2 Vet worked as a pipefitter out of a labor union. Like most of his fellow pipefitters at the time, he was a pro labor, pro union Democrat.

White working class males were the backbone of the Democratic party for many years, but recently things have changed. In their headlong pursuit of diversity, the Democratic party have showcased women and minorities to the point of white males having been marginalized and even scorned by the Democrats as racist, sexist bigots. Not surprisingly, this has caused many working class white men to drift to the GOP where they feel more accepted. This stupid move by the left wing has been the reason democrats have lost elections, and if the left wing does not stop treating white males as 2nd class citizens, they are going to continue to lose.

Democrats - get it through your head. White males vote in large numbers, and if you don't start making them feel more valued in your "big tent" that tent won't be big enough, and you'll just keep losing.

The problem here is that the party is now largely under the control of the illiberal leftist authoritarians who are 100% committed to political correctness and identity politics.

So white men (and particularly straight white men) are welcome to come along for the ride, their votes are appreciated for sure, but at this point they are simply second class citizens who'd damn well better know their place and watch what they say.

That's just the reality at this point.
.

I'm starting to get the impression that "White Males" are to root of all the world's woes... I feel like I'm haven't been doing my part...

White male here. White men have been in charge of the country since its founding. The idea that trying to level the playing field so that non-white makes can have a seat at the table is not “threatening”.

Except that no one is complaining about a level playing field. THe complaints were vague, but clearly not that.


So, you want to address what was actually said, instead of the strawman you made up?

The OP is 100% correct as is Mac.

What they neglected to bring up is the number 1 reason this has happened------------->identity politics, and victimology! You can not be a victim politically, without an oppressor. The Left has designated white males as the oppressor, and the excuse for everything that is bad politically for the oppressed. All you need do is look back on Google to the last 2 Bush Presidency's along with Reagan, and see how they were characterized by the Left. All 3 of them were called every name that Trump is being called today. For that matter, so was Mcain as he ran against Obama, and so was Romney. The Left has now reaped what they have sown for decades!

Let us ALL face the reality---------------->the Lefts policies, they can NOT run on!

Free healthcare to illegals?

Open borders, or more open borders?

Pay higher taxes?

Closed school systems where there is no freedom of choice for minorities?

And the list goes on!

So what they have to do is create the atmosphere that these things that help most people are being done for some nefarious reason to unfairly help their boogeyman of choice, and that would be most male Caucasians, then attempt to make their constituents despise the boogeyman, and vote against their own self interest in the attempt to punish said boogeyman!

Just consider what is obvious to everyone who can think, including the Leftists; and believe it or not, they may lie like hell, but they can think--------------> If you start to work and move up the ladder, when you actually get to the point where you pay more into taxes then you receive back, what percentage of people are going to vote themselves a significant tax HIKE?

So how do you make it palatable? Tell the people that it is racist, sexist, or homophobic not to pay MORE taxes, and join the woke crowd! Sounds ridiculous when you read it, doesn't it! But that is exactly the method they use as Leftists. And yet, if you read polling, you will notice a significant uptick in Black support for Trump. Numerous polling says this is true, and he is hovering somewhere in the low 20% range. If this is accurate, the Left has already lost, and that is the brutal truth if it becomes fact on election day!

 

[colfax_m]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

Decades ago, my father, a WW2 Vet worked as a pipefitter out of a labor union. Like most of his fellow pipefitters at the time, he was a pro labor, pro union Democrat.

White working class males were the backbone of the Democratic party for many years, but recently things have changed. In their headlong pursuit of diversity, the Democratic party have showcased women and minorities to the point of white males having been marginalized and even scorned by the Democrats as racist, sexist bigots. Not surprisingly, this has caused many working class white men to drift to the GOP where they feel more accepted. This stupid move by the left wing has been the reason democrats have lost elections, and if the left wing does not stop treating white males as 2nd class citizens, they are going to continue to lose.

Democrats - get it through your head. White males vote in large numbers, and if you don't start making them feel more valued in your "big tent" that tent won't be big enough, and you'll just keep losing.

The problem here is that the party is now largely under the control of the illiberal leftist authoritarians who are 100% committed to political correctness and identity politics.

So white men (and particularly straight white men) are welcome to come along for the ride, their votes are appreciated for sure, but at this point they are simply second class citizens who'd damn well better know their place and watch what they say.

That's just the reality at this point.
.

I'm starting to get the impression that "White Males" are to root of all the world's woes... I feel like I'm haven't been doing my part...

White male here. White men have been in charge of the country since its founding. The idea that trying to level the playing field so that non-white makes can have a seat at the table is not “threatening”.

Except that no one is complaining about a level playing field. THe complaints were vague, but clearly not that.


So, you want to address what was actually said, instead of the strawman you made up?

The OP is 100% correct as is Mac.

What they neglected to bring up is the number 1 reason this has happened------------->identity politics, and victimology! You can not be a victim politically, without an oppressor. The Left has designated white males as the oppressor, and the excuse for everything that is bad politically for the oppressed. All you need do is look back on Google to the last 2 Bush Presidency's along with Reagan, and see how they were characterized by the Left. All 3 of them were called every name that Trump is being called today. For that matter, so was Mcain as he ran against Obama, and so was Romney. The Left has now reaped what they have sown for decades!

Let us ALL face the reality---------------->the Lefts policies, they can NOT run on!

Free healthcare to illegals?

Open borders, or more open borders?

Pay higher taxes?

Closed school systems where there is no freedom of choice for minorities?

And the list goes on!

So what they have to do is create the atmosphere that these things that help most people are being done for some nefarious reason to unfairly help their boogeyman of choice, and that would be most male Caucasians, then attempt to make their constituents despise the boogeyman, and vote against their own self interest in the attempt to punish said boogeyman!

Just consider what is obvious to everyone who can think, including the Leftists; and believe it or not, they may lie like hell, but they can think--------------> If you start to work and move up the ladder, when you actually get to the point where you pay more into taxes then you receive back, what percentage of people are going to vote themselves a significant tax HIKE?

So how do you make it palatable? Tell the people that it is racist, sexist, or homophobic not to pay MORE taxes, and join the woke crowd! Sounds ridiculous when you read it, doesn't it! But that is exactly the method they use as Leftists. And yet, if you read polling, you will notice a significant uptick in Black support for Trump. Numerous polling says this is true, and he is hovering somewhere in the low 20% range. If this is accurate, the Left has already lost, and that is the brutal truth if it becomes fact on election day!

It’s just hard to see me as white males as some victim of oppression.

 

[Mac1958]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

Decades ago, my father, a WW2 Vet worked as a pipefitter out of a labor union. Like most of his fellow pipefitters at the time, he was a pro labor, pro union Democrat.

White working class males were the backbone of the Democratic party for many years, but recently things have changed. In their headlong pursuit of diversity, the Democratic party have showcased women and minorities to the point of white males having been marginalized and even scorned by the Democrats as racist, sexist bigots. Not surprisingly, this has caused many working class white men to drift to the GOP where they feel more accepted. This stupid move by the left wing has been the reason democrats have lost elections, and if the left wing does not stop treating white males as 2nd class citizens, they are going to continue to lose.

Democrats - get it through your head. White males vote in large numbers, and if you don't start making them feel more valued in your "big tent" that tent won't be big enough, and you'll just keep losing.

The problem here is that the party is now largely under the control of the illiberal leftist authoritarians who are 100% committed to political correctness and identity politics.

So white men (and particularly straight white men) are welcome to come along for the ride, their votes are appreciated for sure, but at this point they are simply second class citizens who'd damn well better know their place and watch what they say.

That's just the reality at this point.
.

I'm starting to get the impression that "White Males" are to root of all the world's woes... I feel like I'm haven't been doing my part...

White male here. White men have been in charge of the country since its founding. The idea that trying to level the playing field so that non-white makes can have a seat at the table is not “threatening”.

Except that no one is complaining about a level playing field. THe complaints were vague, but clearly not that.


So, you want to address what was actually said, instead of the strawman you made up?

The OP is 100% correct as is Mac.

What they neglected to bring up is the number 1 reason this has happened------------->identity politics, and victimology! You can not be a victim politically, without an oppressor. The Left has designated white males as the oppressor, and the excuse for everything that is bad politically for the oppressed. All you need do is look back on Google to the last 2 Bush Presidency's along with Reagan, and see how they were characterized by the Left. All 3 of them were called every name that Trump is being called today. For that matter, so was Mcain as he ran against Obama, and so was Romney. The Left has now reaped what they have sown for decades!

Let us ALL face the reality---------------->the Lefts policies, they can NOT run on!

Free healthcare to illegals?

Open borders, or more open borders?

Pay higher taxes?

Closed school systems where there is no freedom of choice for minorities?

And the list goes on!

So what they have to do is create the atmosphere that these things that help most people are being done for some nefarious reason to unfairly help their boogeyman of choice, and that would be most male Caucasians, then attempt to make their constituents despise the boogeyman, and vote against their own self interest in the attempt to punish said boogeyman!

Just consider what is obvious to everyone who can think, including the Leftists; and believe it or not, they may lie like hell, but they can think--------------> If you start to work and move up the ladder, when you actually get to the point where you pay more into taxes then you receive back, what percentage of people are going to vote themselves a significant tax HIKE?

So how do you make it palatable? Tell the people that it is racist, sexist, or homophobic not to pay MORE taxes, and join the woke crowd! Sounds ridiculous when you read it, doesn't it! But that is exactly the method they use as Leftists. And yet, if you read polling, you will notice a significant uptick in Black support for Trump. Numerous polling says this is true, and he is hovering somewhere in the low 20% range. If this is accurate, the Left has already lost, and that is the brutal truth if it becomes fact on election day!

The Left has long used its Oppressed vs. Oppressor template as the foundation of their worldview (while the Right uses Good vs. Evil). That's fine in theory, but at some point along the way they essentially weaponized it. So now they use it as a socio-cultural-political bludgeon, impulsively. I'm not even sure they realize it at this point.
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