Democrats Loved Jonathan Gruber Before They Forgot Who He Was

[mudwhistle]

This issue has come up many times.

The purpose of Obamacare is to jack up costs to the consumer to the point that single payer is the only option left. Our health care system will be so screwed up in the next couple of years that the "Stupid People" will be screaming for government only healthcare.

And the Democrats will say it's our fault we're too stupid to function and we need to be controlled through this new system.

 

[Vigilante]

Republicans loved ObamaCare when it was called "RomneyCare".

Who loved it? McRomney IS a self proclaimed moderate with PROGRESSIVE VIEWS... in his own words....



Even TODAYS Gallup poll shows Obolacare approval rate DOWN to 37%... You read that , THIRTY SEVEN %!!!!!

Gallup New numerical low for Obamacare - Lucy McCalmont - POLITICO

 

[Jroc]

Republicans loved ObamaCare when it was called "RomneyCare".

1) The two pieces of legislation are vastly different.

2) RomneyCare was not dependent on lack of transparency, the stupidity of the voter, or a necessity of passing the legislation first so that we could then see what is in it.

1) no, they aren't. They are pretty much the same thing.

2) ObamaCare was debated for over a year and a half. If the voters didn't pay attention, it was kind of hteir own fault.

No they believed this lying demagogue



Under Obamacare, health care will cost less than your cell phone bill

 

[deltex1]

As I said on a duplicate thread....
"Lies run off his tongue as quickly as leadership runs out his ass."

 

[jon_berzerk]

Sunday on Fox News Channel's "Fox & Friends," network White House corespondent Ed Henry asked President President Obama about Jonathan Gruber and the president claimed he had just heard about the ObamaCare architect before walking out on stage in Australia.
President Obama said, "I just heard about this. I get well briefed before I come out here. The fact that some adviser who never worked on our staff expressed an opinion that I've completely disagreed with in terms of the voters, is no reflection on the actual process that was run. We had a year-long debate, Ed, I mean, go back and look at your stories. The one thing we can't say is that we did not have a lengthy debate about health care in the United States of America. or that it was not adequately covered. I think it is fair to say that there was not a provision in the health care laws that was not extensively debated and was fully transparent."

Obama on Gruber I Just Heard About This Today

who would expect anything less of this liar

it is what he does

 

[LeftofLeft]

In fairness Obama did not say he had never heard of Gruber. Perhaps he meant he hadnt heard of the videos surfacing. In either case Obama seems to be the last person who hears anything.
But what was he going to say? Yeah, I was there and agree that in order to pass this piece of shit we had to lie our asses off about it and that's why I told the whopper about keeping your doctor?
At least the Left has been revealed for the outrageous liars they are. That people arent outraged across the board is testimony to the gross cynicism that has infected the Left. They really dont care about process at all. They only care they win and get to stick it to people they disagree with.

Or we just don't think that this is an important issue. Frankly, you guys got what you wanted. You got a private sector, free market solution to the problem, and now you are whining about it that Gruber has pointed out that the Insurance Companies are the ones collecting the taxes instead of the government.

You dont think lying about a piece of legislation to get it passed is important? .

That is hilarious from someone who has zealously defended every single lie that got Americans to support the Iraq War.

Lies like these?

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 | Source

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

Kerry and Rodham Clinton opposed George Bush at every turn; except this one. Then, when they realized the political opportunity, they started screaming that these were lies and that Bush misled them (LIED). They also forgot their comments and the comments of their colleagues before Bush.

 

[The Rabbi]

In fairness Obama did not say he had never heard of Gruber. Perhaps he meant he hadnt heard of the videos surfacing. In either case Obama seems to be the last person who hears anything.
But what was he going to say? Yeah, I was there and agree that in order to pass this piece of shit we had to lie our asses off about it and that's why I told the whopper about keeping your doctor?
At least the Left has been revealed for the outrageous liars they are. That people arent outraged across the board is testimony to the gross cynicism that has infected the Left. They really dont care about process at all. They only care they win and get to stick it to people they disagree with.

Or we just don't think that this is an important issue. Frankly, you guys got what you wanted. You got a private sector, free market solution to the problem, and now you are whining about it that Gruber has pointed out that the Insurance Companies are the ones collecting the taxes instead of the government.

You dont think lying about a piece of legislation to get it passed is important? .

That is hilarious from someone who has zealously defended every single lie that got Americans to support the Iraq War.

Lies like these?

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 | Source

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

Kerry and Rodham Clinton opposed George Bush at every turn; except this one. Then, when they realized the political opportunity, they started screaming that these were lies and that Bush misled them (LIED). They also forgot their comments and the comments of their colleagues before Bush.

Clinton admitted to Obama that her vote for the war was just to gain political advantage.
The cynicism of the Left is stunning. The stupidity of their supporters is unbelievable.

 

[TooTall]

In fairness Obama did not say he had never heard of Gruber. Perhaps he meant he hadnt heard of the videos surfacing. In either case Obama seems to be the last person who hears anything.
But what was he going to say? Yeah, I was there and agree that in order to pass this piece of shit we had to lie our asses off about it and that's why I told the whopper about keeping your doctor?
At least the Left has been revealed for the outrageous liars they are. That people arent outraged across the board is testimony to the gross cynicism that has infected the Left. They really dont care about process at all. They only care they win and get to stick it to people they disagree with.

Or we just don't think that this is an important issue. Frankly, you guys got what you wanted. You got a private sector, free market solution to the problem, and now you are whining about it that Gruber has pointed out that the Insurance Companies are the ones collecting the taxes instead of the government.

You dont think lying about a piece of legislation to get it passed is important? .

That is hilarious from someone who has zealously defended every single lie that got Americans to support the Iraq War.

Lies like these?

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 | Source

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

Kerry and Rodham Clinton opposed George Bush at every turn; except this one. Then, when they realized the political opportunity, they started screaming that these were lies and that Bush misled them (LIED). They also forgot their comments and the comments of their colleagues before Bush.

I am waiting for NYCARBINEER to call Kerry and Clinton liars as well as Bush. I say all three had access to the same intel and none of them lied.

 

[deltex1]

OBABBLE will put pressure on the DA in Ferguson to announce the jury verdict and get on with the riots so as to bury the Gruber issue.

 

[Stephanie]

Now all those they call stupid in this country better wake to see why Obama and his comrades want to CHANGE THE INTERNET. "Put a stop to this man" call your Reps. AND demand IT.

SNIP:

New media make it difficult for elitists to deceive

Tattler: Jonathan Gruber has put the Obama administration in a tough spot as it defends the Affordable Care Act. (Associated Press)more >
ByTammy Bruce- - Monday, November 17, 2014
It’s the smug, arrogant, elitist attitude heard around the world. In MIT professor and Obamacare architectJonathan Gruber’s case, you can hear his attitude even before he enters a room. For the man who describes the American people as stupid, either directly or in some variation, with his comments captured now on multiple videotapes,Mr. Gruberseems to be proving that he has an issue with projection.

Yet if you relied on the mainstream media, you would have a hard time learning about the inside story from one of the law’s architects. For days, ABC, CBS and NBC ignored the story altogether. The New York Times finally addressed it days after it madeinternationalnews through new media, The Washington Times and Fox News. How did The New York Times approach it? With a snarky, dismissive blog post, only online. If you rely on the paper version of the Gray Lady, you’d never know this was happening.

Fortunately for the American people, it has been brought to our attention by a thing called the “Internet,” and so-called conservative media outlets, which are categorized as such because they dare to cover everything that is of interest to us, even if it runs contrary to what the political establishment may deem in our best interest.


Newsbusters.org, a project of the Media Research Center, has been keeping tabs on how the Old Media have been covering this story. As of Friday, neither ABC nor NBC has covered the revelation at all, eitheronlineor in print.

ALL of it here:
Read more:TAMMY BRUCE Jonathan Gruber and Obamacare undone by the stupid people - Washington Times
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[paulitician]

The guy's a piece of shit. But then again, so is his boss. They really need to scrap Obamacare all-together. But at the very least, end the Mandate. It's Un-American.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

We don't need 50 different threads on Gruber. Merged

 

[Stephanie]

We don't need 50 different threads on Gruber. Merged

that wasn't on Gruber it was about the Internet, the new media reporting and the Lamestream media. they just used "gruber" as an Example.

this is unfair

 

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[007]

We don't need 50 different threads on Gruber. Merged

that wasn't on Gruber it was about the Internet, the new media reporting and the Lamestream media. they just used "gruber" as an Example.

this is unfair

Don't question the almighty, Stephanie... you'll get banned.

 

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[deltex1]

OBABBLE will put pressure on the DA in Ferguson to announce the jury verdict and get on with the riots so as to bury the Gruber issue.

Missouri governor just put national guard on alert. Obabble must be readying a pipeline veto, an immigration executive order, and an announcement he is gay.

 

[JoeB131]

You must not make very much. Of course you dont. The market for stupid lazy people is not well paying.

No, it was just a very expensive operation. You guys don't seem to get this, that a serious medical condition can completely wipe you out if you don't have insurance.

 

[JoeB131]

Now that is a lie too.

Millions cut back to part time or let go altogether now hate it too.

Yeah, that had nothing to do with big companies wanting to cut costs. It was because of ObamaCare.

Hey, dumbass, they were doing this before ObamaCare got passed.

Next false argument.