Democrats Commemorating a Black Republican

[rightwinger]

You can't change history. MLK was a republican. Maybe he would be a democrat today, but then he was a republican. He would not have been a member of the same party as Bull Connor, George Wallace and Grand Kleagel Robert Byrd.

Alveda King, founder of the faith-based group King for America. In the Sept. 14, 2008, video, she says: "I just want to share with you a little bit about my family and my history. My uncle Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. during his lifetime was a Republican, as was my father, his brother, Rev. A. D. King, and my grandfather, Dr. Martin Luther King Sr."

Martin Luther King - Republican - YouTube

Coretta Scott King has said he was not Republican
His Children have said he was not Republican
Those who served with him in the Southern Christian Leadership Conference said he was not Republican

Yet we need to take the word of his black sheep niece

And you can prove this by?????

In those days the majority of black people were republicans. The democrats were such hard core racists that a black democrat was impossible to find.

Not true

It was at best 50/50. Blacks began converting to the Democratic party during FDRs administration. Many southern blacks were registered Democrats for the same reason I am a registered Republican

 

[PredFan]

It's easy for some to get confused. In MLK's days, the GOP was the party of anti-segregation and pro-civil rights.

That is not to say that MLK was a Republican. He worked with republicans to get the laws changed and society changed but MLK believed in equal distribution of wealth and the nanny state.

He never really declared any political affilation.

 

[Flopper]

"There must be a better distribution of wealth and maybe America must move toward a democratic socialism." - MLK

^ Now there's some 'publican meat to chew on.

That's the kind of statement that led so many people including Robert Kennedy, to believe that King was a communist. Who ordered J. Edgar Hoover and the FBI to investigated King? Hint. Kennedy was president and his brother was attorney general.

At one time King had associates that were communist but he severed that relationship long before he became a leader in the civil rights movement. Kennedy gave his permission but did not order an investigation of King.

FBI tracked King's every move - CNN.com

 

[paperview]

Coretta Scott King has said he was not Republican
His Children have said he was not Republican
Those who served with him in the Southern Christian Leadership Conference said he was not Republican

Yet we need to take the word of his black sheep niece

And you can prove this by?????

In those days the majority of black people were republicans. The democrats were such hard core racists that a black democrat was impossible to find.

Not true

It was at best 50/50. Blacks began converting to the Democratic party during FDRs administration. Many southern blacks were registered Democrats for the same reason I am a registered Republican

Yup.

Look at that 1964 vote.

 

[Avatar4321]

While many Southern Democrats were present for the commemoration, including Dixiecrat Fulbright protoge' Bill Clinton, can Democrats point to any of their own being present in 1963? Did The Kennedy Brothers pull away from the Hoover tapes of MLK long enough to hear the I Have A Dream Speech?

What President proposed the Civil Rights Bill that was passed in 1964?

Eisenhower. Interestingly enough it didn't pass because Senator LB Johnson let the fillibuster of it.

You know. Senator Johnson, right? He became JFKs VP choice and then became President after JFK was murdered. He delayed the Civil Rights Bill for 6 years. And then signed it into law when it became a political liability not to.

Those Democrats are so darn nice.

 

[Flopper]

You can't change history. MLK was a republican. Maybe he would be a democrat today, but then he was a republican. He would not have been a member of the same party as Bull Connor, George Wallace and Grand Kleagel Robert Byrd.

Alveda King, founder of the faith-based group King for America. In the Sept. 14, 2008, video, she says: "I just want to share with you a little bit about my family and my history. My uncle Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. during his lifetime was a Republican, as was my father, his brother, Rev. A. D. King, and my grandfather, Dr. Martin Luther King Sr."

Martin Luther King - Republican - YouTube

Coretta Scott King has said he was not Republican
His Children have said he was not Republican
Those who served with him in the Southern Christian Leadership Conference said he was not Republican

Yet we need to take the word of his black sheep niece

And you can prove this by?????

In those days the majority of black people were republicans. The democrats were such hard core racists that a black democrat was impossible to find.

Prior to the civil rights movement that was probably true. The civil rights movement changed everything. Voter registration drives, particularly in South resulted in most blacks registering as Democrats and electing blacks to local offices. Southern segregationist responded by voting Republican for the first time since reconstruction, electing Republicans to state legislatures as well sending them to Washington. Today Republicans control every southern state legislature. Prior to civil rights, they controlled none.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Very nice to see Democrats commemorate a Black Republican and an event 50 years ago put together by Black Republicans. Finally!

So what sort of Republican would Martin Luther King be in the 21st century?

Which modern Republicans would MLK be endorsing?

lol, anyone? Can anyone help the OP out here? He seems to be struggling with this question.

OK, so not one of you can name any Republicans today that MLK would endorse.

Like I said, the only still-conservative, once-segregationist Democrat of any consequence left alive today

is Zell Miller,

who is now, OF COURSE, beloved on the Right.

Now why do you suppose that is?

 

[Flopper]

While many Southern Democrats were present for the commemoration, including Dixiecrat Fulbright protoge' Bill Clinton, can Democrats point to any of their own being present in 1963? Did The Kennedy Brothers pull away from the Hoover tapes of MLK long enough to hear the I Have A Dream Speech?

What President proposed the Civil Rights Bill that was passed in 1964?

Eisenhower. Interestingly enough it didn't pass because Senator LB Johnson let the fillibuster of it.

You know. Senator Johnson, right? He became JFKs VP choice and then became President after JFK was murdered. He delayed the Civil Rights Bill for 6 years. And then signed it into law when it became a political liability not to.

Those Democrats are so darn nice.

Not exactly.

The Democratic Senate Majority Leader, Lyndon Baines Johnson from Texas, realized that the bill and its journey through Congress could tear apart his party, whose southern bloc was anti-civil rights and northern members were more pro-civil rights. Southern senators occupied chairs of numerous important committees due to their long seniority. Johnson sent the bill to the judiciary committee, led by Senator James Eastland from Mississippi, who proceeded to change and alter the bill almost beyond recognition. Senator Richard Russell from Georgia had claimed the bill was an example of the federal government wanting to impose its laws on states. Johnson sought recognition from civil rights advocates for passing the bill, while also receiving recognition from the mostly southern anti-civil rights Democrats for reducing it so much as to kill it.

Actually it was Strom Thurmond who vehemently opposed passage of the Act with the longest (although ultimately unsuccessful) filibuster ever conducted by a single senator, speaking for 24 hours and 18 minutes.

Civil Rights Act of 1957 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Katzndogz]

"There must be a better distribution of wealth and maybe America must move toward a democratic socialism." - MLK

^ Now there's some 'publican meat to chew on.

That's the kind of statement that led so many people including Robert Kennedy, to believe that King was a communist. Who ordered J. Edgar Hoover and the FBI to investigated King? Hint. Kennedy was president and his brother was attorney general.

At one time King had associates that were communist but he severed that relationship long before he became a leader in the civil rights movement. Kennedy gave his permission but did not order an investigation of King.

FBI tracked King's every move - CNN.com

The FBI investigation was at the authorization of Robert Kennedy.

The FBI and Martin Luther King - David J. Garrow - The Atlantic

This is also a good expose on King's communist connections.

I believed for years that King was a communist. His goals were toward a social form of communism. He just wasn't a communist.

In his own words:
Second, I strongly disagreed with communism’s ethical relativism. Since for the Communist there is no divine government, no absolute moral order, there are no fixed, immutable principles; consequently almost anything-force, violence, murder, lying-is a justifiable means to the “millennial” end. This type of relativism was abhorrent to me. Constructive ends can never give absolute moral justification to destructive means, because in the final analysis the end is preexistent in the mean.

Third, I opposed communism’s political totalitarianism. In communism the individual ends up in subjection to the state. True, the Marxist would argue that the state is an “interim” reality which is to be eliminated when the classless society emerges; but the state i s the end while it lasts, and man only a means to that end.

And if any man’s so-called rights or liberties stand in the way of that end, they are simply swept aside. His liberties of expression, his freedom to vote, his freedom to listen to what news he likes or to choose his books are all restricted. Man becomes hardly more, in communism, than a depersonalized cog in the turning wheel of the state. This deprecation of individual freedom was objectionable to me. I am convinced now, as I was then, that man is an end because he is a child of God.

Man is not made for the state; the state is made for man. To deprive man of freedom is to relegate him to the status of a thing, rather than elevate him to the status of a person. Man must never be treated as a means to the end of the state, but always as an end within himself.

Proof Positive: Martin Luther King, Jr., on Communism

 

[Missouri_Mike]

There is no question that Republicans played a significant role in the Civil Rights movement. A fact that all schoolchildren should be taught. It is a reminder of how great the Republican Party was 50 years ago and how far they have fallen

The republican party hasn't moved at all in 50 years, we still believe in giving everyone an equal and fair shot. Dems on the other hand haven't changed either. 50 years ago they said blacks were just too damn stupid to make it on their own and they still say so today. Welfare? Gotta have that, blacks can't make it without welfare. Voter ID? No way, blacks are too damn dumb and lazy to get an ID. Affirmative action? Gotta have it, blacks can't compete with whites on a level playing field they're too dumb. Equal application of the law? That's not fair blacks are convicted the most for committing the most crime, it's just their nature you know, they're dumb people that just don't get what the law means.

Ever notice how the Right ALWAYS projects THEIR racist hate into the mouths of others?!!!!

Ever notice the left are so dumb their leaders tell them that right to their face and they don't even notice. They just cheer like the good little followers they are.

 

[edthecynic]

The republican party hasn't moved at all in 50 years, we still believe in giving everyone an equal and fair shot. Dems on the other hand haven't changed either. 50 years ago they said blacks were just too damn stupid to make it on their own and they still say so today. Welfare? Gotta have that, blacks can't make it without welfare. Voter ID? No way, blacks are too damn dumb and lazy to get an ID. Affirmative action? Gotta have it, blacks can't compete with whites on a level playing field they're too dumb. Equal application of the law? That's not fair blacks are convicted the most for committing the most crime, it's just their nature you know, they're dumb people that just don't get what the law means.

Ever notice how the Right ALWAYS projects THEIR racist hate into the mouths of others?!!!!

Ever notice the left are so dumb their leaders tell them that right to their face and they don't even notice. They just cheer like the good little followers they are.

Ever notice how the Right can never cite the ACTUAL quotes they attribute to those leaders. Funny how words like that only come from the mouths of the Right.

December 5, 2007
RUSH: It's ignorance, and we pay a huge price for this. The biggest price we pay for ignorance is electing so damn many Democrats, which is one of the biggest obstacles to progress and success in this country for the individual human being that I have ever encountered. It is ignorance. Devotion to ignorance, bliss, blissful ignorance, is the only explanation for the election of Democrats.

May 1, 2008
RUSH: Democrats voted against landmark civil rights legislation; Republicans passed it. Blacks stayed with Democrats. Bull Connor was a Democrat. Blacks stayed with Democrats. Democrats created the welfare state, destroying millions of black families. Blacks stayed with Democrats. Democrats bent over forward for the teachers unions, ruining public education for generations of black kids; leaving them unequipped to participate as equals in American society. Yet! Black voters stayed with Democrats. Democrats urged the early release of criminals to further prey on law-abiding black citizens. Blacks stayed with Democrats. Democrats threw blacks under the bus during the immigration debate. After Rosa Parks finally moved to the front of the bus, Democrats threw blacks under it during the immigration debate because Hispanics are now the largest minority voting bloc. Blacks stayed with Democrats. Democrats have not supported blacks achieving power.

Carl McCall was running for governor of New York, and was denied funds from Terry McAuliffe at the Democrat National Committee. This audience contributed to McCall's campaign. Civil rights icon Maynard Jackson wanted to be head honcho of the Democrat National Convention. He was denied. Blacks stayed with Democrats. Earlier this year in Selma, Alabama, Mrs. Clinton shows up; mocks the way black people speak. Her husband, Bill Clinton, the reputed "first black president," shows up in South Carolina and plays not the race card, but a whole deck of race cards! (doing Clinton impression) "Obama? Ha! Of course he gonna win. I mean, it's like Jesse Jackson. I mean, he's the black guy." Blacks stayed with Democrats. You superdelegates in the Democrat Party, you're worried about denying Obama the nomination because you fear that your black voters will abandon you permanently? Come, come! Review your history with me once again. You Democrats have already done far worse to black voters than yanking the nomination away from Barack Obama. Have no fear, superdelegates. Be confident. Blacks will stay with you.... All these things happened, and Democrats continued to get the votes of the majority of black voters.

 

[EriktheRed]

yet they didn't invite the only sitting black senator...institutional racism? ....

Nope:

Tim Scott Declined Invitation To Attend MLK Event As Spectator

 

[Bfgrn]

While many Southern Democrats were present for the commemoration, including Dixiecrat Fulbright protoge' Bill Clinton, can Democrats point to any of their own being present in 1963? Did The Kennedy Brothers pull away from the Hoover tapes of MLK long enough to hear the I Have A Dream Speech?

What President proposed the Civil Rights Bill that was passed in 1964?

Eisenhower. Interestingly enough it didn't pass because Senator LB Johnson let the fillibuster of it.

You know. Senator Johnson, right? He became JFKs VP choice and then became President after JFK was murdered. He delayed the Civil Rights Bill for 6 years. And then signed it into law when it became a political liability not to.

Those Democrats are so darn nice.

Too bad history doesn't support your accusation. Eisenhower was able to pass 2 pieces of legislation in 1957 and 1960. The act of 1957 and the Civil Rights Act of 1960 were deemed ineffective for the firm establishment of civil rights. The later legislation acts of 1964 and 1965 had firmer ground for the enforcement and protection of a variety of civil rights, where the acts of 1957 and 1960 were largely limited to voting rights.
wiki

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Pub.L. 88–352, 78 Stat. 241, enacted July 2, 1964) is a landmark piece of civil rights legislation in the United States that outlawed major forms of discrimination against racial, ethnic, national and religious minorities, and women. It ended unequal application of voter registration requirements and racial segregation in schools, at the workplace and by facilities that served the general public (known as "public accommodations").

The bill was called for by President John F. Kennedy in his civil rights speech of June 11, 1963.

Report to the American People on Civil Rights, 11 June 1963 - John F. Kennedy Presidential Library & Museum

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

And you can prove this by?????

In those days the majority of black people were republicans. The democrats were such hard core racists that a black democrat was impossible to find.

Not true

It was at best 50/50. Blacks began converting to the Democratic party during FDRs administration. Many southern blacks were registered Democrats for the same reason I am a registered Republican

Yup.

Look at that 1964 vote.

A look into the votes acquired under the Civil Rights Act of 1964

The Civil Rights Act -- which is best known for barring discrimination in public accommodations -- passed the House on Feb. 10, 1964 by a margin of 290-130. When broken down by party, 61 percent of Democratic lawmakers voted for the bill (152 yeas and 96 nays), and a full 80 percent of the Republican caucus supported it (138 yeas and 34 nays).

When the Senate passed the measure on June 19, 1964, -- nine days after supporters mustered enough votes to end the longest filibuster in Senate history -- the margin was 73-27. Better than two-thirds of Senate Democrats supported the measure on final passage (46 yeas, 21 nays), but an even stronger 82 percent of Republicans supported it (27 yeas, 6 nays).

 

[Bfgrn]

Not true

It was at best 50/50. Blacks began converting to the Democratic party during FDRs administration. Many southern blacks were registered Democrats for the same reason I am a registered Republican

Yup.

Look at that 1964 vote.

A look into the votes acquired under the Civil Rights Act of 1964

The Civil Rights Act -- which is best known for barring discrimination in public accommodations -- passed the House on Feb. 10, 1964 by a margin of 290-130. When broken down by party, 61 percent of Democratic lawmakers voted for the bill (152 yeas and 96 nays), and a full 80 percent of the Republican caucus supported it (138 yeas and 34 nays).

When the Senate passed the measure on June 19, 1964, -- nine days after supporters mustered enough votes to end the longest filibuster in Senate history -- the margin was 73-27. Better than two-thirds of Senate Democrats supported the measure on final passage (46 yeas, 21 nays), but an even stronger 82 percent of Republicans supported it (27 yeas, 6 nays).

An even CLOSER look...

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a rematch of the Civil War. In 1964 there were 10 Republicans in the House of Representatives from southern states and one Republican in the Senate. NONE of those Republicans voted yes.

By party and region

Note: "Southern", as used in this section, refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War. "Northern" refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states.

The original House version:

Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7%–93%)
Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0%–100%)

Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%–6%)
Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%–15%)

The Senate version:

Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5%–95%)
Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0%–100%)
Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%–2%)
Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%–16%)

 

[Bfgrn]

GOP leader chose oil industry over MLK marchers

Eric Cantor Declined March On Washington Invitation To Meet With Oil Industry Lobby

Not a single Republican elected official stood on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial on Wednesday with activists, actors, lawmakers and former presidents invited to mark the 50th anniversary of the March on Washington — a notable absence for a party seeking to attract the support of minority voters.

 

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[rightwinger]

Yup.

Look at that 1964 vote.

A look into the votes acquired under the Civil Rights Act of 1964

The Civil Rights Act -- which is best known for barring discrimination in public accommodations -- passed the House on Feb. 10, 1964 by a margin of 290-130. When broken down by party, 61 percent of Democratic lawmakers voted for the bill (152 yeas and 96 nays), and a full 80 percent of the Republican caucus supported it (138 yeas and 34 nays).

When the Senate passed the measure on June 19, 1964, -- nine days after supporters mustered enough votes to end the longest filibuster in Senate history -- the margin was 73-27. Better than two-thirds of Senate Democrats supported the measure on final passage (46 yeas, 21 nays), but an even stronger 82 percent of Republicans supported it (27 yeas, 6 nays).

An even CLOSER look...

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a rematch of the Civil War. In 1964 there were 10 Republicans in the House of Representatives from southern states and one Republican in the Senate. NONE of those Republicans voted yes.

By party and region

Note: "Southern", as used in this section, refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War. "Northern" refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states.

The original House version:

Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7%–93%)
Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0%–100%)

Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%–6%)
Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%–15%)

The Senate version:

Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5%–95%)
Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0%–100%)
Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%–2%)
Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%–16%)

Once again Republicans try to revise history by turning an issue that was obviously a north/south issue into a Republican/Democrat issue

 

[LeftofLeft]

The event was run by Democrats. Interestingly, there was no acknowledgement of the Republicans who helped push Civil Rights nor was there an apology for the Democrats that clung to Jim Crow Laws and otherwise tried to obfuscate and obstruct progress.

 

[Nosmo King]

It's funny how the Conservatives want to hitch their wagon to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr's star 50 years after they so vehemently opposed him and the Civil Rights movement. Conservatives hide behind the skirts of party politics and ignore political ideology.

They claim MLK as a Republican, but ask them if MLK was a Conservative or a Liberal. Suddenly all those claims of party affiliation fly out the window. MLK would be labeled a RINO.