Democrats can’t keep the 'Schumer Shutdown' going much longer

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Democrats can’t keep the 'Schumer Shutdown' going much longer ​

23 Oct 2025 ~~ By Liz Peek

The government shutdown will end soon. How do I know? Because whatever political advantage Democrats had a few weeks ago by “standing strong!” and “confronting Trump!” is quickly evaporating. When the polls flip, so will the party that has lost its way.
Voters have a way of sniffing out the truth. They are beginning to understand that Democrats are rudderless, and are voting to keep the government closed out of confusion, not conviction.
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and their colleagues claim they desperately want Obamacare premium subsidies extended, but they have not been holding talks with Republicans, the majority party, to make that happen. They have no proposal on the table that would incorporate a subsidy extension into next year’s budget.
They have, in short, no plan.
~Snip~
What went wrong? Obamacare was flawed from the start. The idea was that, if everyone who didn’t have insurance was forced to buy into the government-provided program, the risk pool would be broad and costs low. But it turned out that it is not constitutional to require citizens to buy a commercial product. The so-called individual mandate was therefore dropped, and a great many healthy young people failed to sign up.
The result was an older, sicker pool and higher coverage costs. Some insurance companies dropped out as mandates to cover pre-existing conditions and other requirements made the program unprofitable.
Promised changes, such as tort reform and allowing insurers to compete across state lines, never materialized. And problems with America’s health care system — like too few people having “skin in the game” — have persisted. In fact, the Obamacare subsidies make that issue worse, by cutting the required contribution percentages across the board, thereby reducing enrollees’ out-of-pocket costs.
The real costs of Obamacare insurance have been masked by escalating subsidies, which were inflated during the pandemic but are set to expire at the end of this year. Democrats want those subsidies extended, even though the expected cost is nearly half a trillion dollars over the coming decade — and even though much of the benefit would go to higher-income Americans.


Commentary:
Remember that San Fran Nan told us not to bother reading the 1,000 page plus Obamacare Bill until it was passed...
It was a horribly ineffective system for health care. Created by and for a corruption machine siphoning money from taxpayers into a bloated lobby and Healthcare bureaucracy.
For Democrats and their DSA fellow travelers, it's their way or no way. It's an infantile entitled mindset. Of course, they are mentally stunted. Of, they may be smart, but far from wise.
It more that apparent that Hakeem Jeffries is out of his element.
Democrats have lost their way a long time ago. Remember: it's the party of the "Trail of Tears" (1830), "slavery" (abolished by Republicans in 1864), the 'Ku Klux Klan' (still going on?), and Obamacare!
 
Doc7505 said:

Democrats can’t keep the 'Schumer Shutdown' going much longer ​

23 Oct 2025 ~~ By Liz Peek

The government shutdown will end soon. How do I know? Because whatever political advantage Democrats had a few weeks ago by “standing strong!” and “confronting Trump!” is quickly evaporating. When the polls flip, so will the party that has lost its way.
Voters have a way of sniffing out the truth. They are beginning to understand that Democrats are rudderless, and are voting to keep the government closed out of confusion, not conviction.
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and their colleagues claim they desperately want Obamacare premium subsidies extended, but they have not been holding talks with Republicans, the majority party, to make that happen. They have no proposal on the table that would incorporate a subsidy extension into next year’s budget.
They have, in short, no plan.
~Snip~
What went wrong? Obamacare was flawed from the start. The idea was that, if everyone who didn’t have insurance was forced to buy into the government-provided program, the risk pool would be broad and costs low. But it turned out that it is not constitutional to require citizens to buy a commercial product. The so-called individual mandate was therefore dropped, and a great many healthy young people failed to sign up.
The result was an older, sicker pool and higher coverage costs. Some insurance companies dropped out as mandates to cover pre-existing conditions and other requirements made the program unprofitable.
Promised changes, such as tort reform and allowing insurers to compete across state lines, never materialized. And problems with America’s health care system — like too few people having “skin in the game” — have persisted. In fact, the Obamacare subsidies make that issue worse, by cutting the required contribution percentages across the board, thereby reducing enrollees’ out-of-pocket costs.
The real costs of Obamacare insurance have been masked by escalating subsidies, which were inflated during the pandemic but are set to expire at the end of this year. Democrats want those subsidies extended, even though the expected cost is nearly half a trillion dollars over the coming decade — and even though much of the benefit would go to higher-income Americans.


Commentary:
Remember that San Fran Nan told us not to bother reading the 1,000 page plus Obamacare Bill until it was passed...
It was a horribly ineffective system for health care. Created by and for a corruption machine siphoning money from taxpayers into a bloated lobby and Healthcare bureaucracy.
For Democrats and their DSA fellow travelers, it's their way or no way. It's an infantile entitled mindset. Of course, they are mentally stunted. Of, they may be smart, but far from wise.
It more that apparent that Hakeem Jeffries is out of his element.
Democrats have lost their way a long time ago. Remember: it's the party of the "Trail of Tears" (1830), "slavery" (abolished by Republicans in 1864), the 'Ku Klux Klan' (still going on?), and Obamacare!
Click to expand...
Obamacare was doomed because it was government micromanaging both healthcare and insurance coverages which pretty well guaranteed there would be no savings and would be significant increased costs.

When you tell insurance companies what they are required to cover and to what extent, they aren't going to eat that cost. They will raise their premiums, which they did, as well as greatly increase their deductibles and copays. So yes, more people had insurance, but millions more couldn't use a lot of it because of those high deductibles and copays.
 
Doc7505 said:

Democrats can’t keep the 'Schumer Shutdown' going much longer ​

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Well, no surprise there. Democrats have always been the party of not being able to get it up, much less keep it up. They are all flacid limpdick peckerheads whose only mission in life to to dick others off shooting off their big mouths until they are all jacked off.
 
Doc7505 said:

Democrats can’t keep the 'Schumer Shutdown' going much longer ​

23 Oct 2025 ~~ By Liz Peek

The government shutdown will end soon. How do I know? Because whatever political advantage Democrats had a few weeks ago by “standing strong!” and “confronting Trump!” is quickly evaporating. When the polls flip, so will the party that has lost its way.
Voters have a way of sniffing out the truth. They are beginning to understand that Democrats are rudderless, and are voting to keep the government closed out of confusion, not conviction.
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and their colleagues claim they desperately want Obamacare premium subsidies extended, but they have not been holding talks with Republicans, the majority party, to make that happen. They have no proposal on the table that would incorporate a subsidy extension into next year’s budget.
They have, in short, no plan.
~Snip~
What went wrong? Obamacare was flawed from the start. The idea was that, if everyone who didn’t have insurance was forced to buy into the government-provided program, the risk pool would be broad and costs low. But it turned out that it is not constitutional to require citizens to buy a commercial product. The so-called individual mandate was therefore dropped, and a great many healthy young people failed to sign up.
The result was an older, sicker pool and higher coverage costs. Some insurance companies dropped out as mandates to cover pre-existing conditions and other requirements made the program unprofitable.
Promised changes, such as tort reform and allowing insurers to compete across state lines, never materialized. And problems with America’s health care system — like too few people having “skin in the game” — have persisted. In fact, the Obamacare subsidies make that issue worse, by cutting the required contribution percentages across the board, thereby reducing enrollees’ out-of-pocket costs.
The real costs of Obamacare insurance have been masked by escalating subsidies, which were inflated during the pandemic but are set to expire at the end of this year. Democrats want those subsidies extended, even though the expected cost is nearly half a trillion dollars over the coming decade — and even though much of the benefit would go to higher-income Americans.


Commentary:
Remember that San Fran Nan told us not to bother reading the 1,000 page plus Obamacare Bill until it was passed...
It was a horribly ineffective system for health care. Created by and for a corruption machine siphoning money from taxpayers into a bloated lobby and Healthcare bureaucracy.
For Democrats and their DSA fellow travelers, it's their way or no way. It's an infantile entitled mindset. Of course, they are mentally stunted. Of, they may be smart, but far from wise.
It more that apparent that Hakeem Jeffries is out of his element.
Democrats have lost their way a long time ago. Remember: it's the party of the "Trail of Tears" (1830), "slavery" (abolished by Republicans in 1864), the 'Ku Klux Klan' (still going on?), and Obamacare!
Click to expand...
More people blame Trump than democrats.
 
Doc7505 said:

Democrats can’t keep the 'Schumer Shutdown' going much longer ​

23 Oct 2025 ~~ By Liz Peek

The government shutdown will end soon. How do I know? Because whatever political advantage Democrats had a few weeks ago by “standing strong!” and “confronting Trump!” is quickly evaporating. When the polls flip, so will the party that has lost its way.
Voters have a way of sniffing out the truth. They are beginning to understand that Democrats are rudderless, and are voting to keep the government closed out of confusion, not conviction.
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and their colleagues claim they desperately want Obamacare premium subsidies extended, but they have not been holding talks with Republicans, the majority party, to make that happen. They have no proposal on the table that would incorporate a subsidy extension into next year’s budget.
They have, in short, no plan.
~Snip~
What went wrong? Obamacare was flawed from the start. The idea was that, if everyone who didn’t have insurance was forced to buy into the government-provided program, the risk pool would be broad and costs low. But it turned out that it is not constitutional to require citizens to buy a commercial product. The so-called individual mandate was therefore dropped, and a great many healthy young people failed to sign up.
The result was an older, sicker pool and higher coverage costs. Some insurance companies dropped out as mandates to cover pre-existing conditions and other requirements made the program unprofitable.
Promised changes, such as tort reform and allowing insurers to compete across state lines, never materialized. And problems with America’s health care system — like too few people having “skin in the game” — have persisted. In fact, the Obamacare subsidies make that issue worse, by cutting the required contribution percentages across the board, thereby reducing enrollees’ out-of-pocket costs.
The real costs of Obamacare insurance have been masked by escalating subsidies, which were inflated during the pandemic but are set to expire at the end of this year. Democrats want those subsidies extended, even though the expected cost is nearly half a trillion dollars over the coming decade — and even though much of the benefit would go to higher-income Americans.


Commentary:
Remember that San Fran Nan told us not to bother reading the 1,000 page plus Obamacare Bill until it was passed...
It was a horribly ineffective system for health care. Created by and for a corruption machine siphoning money from taxpayers into a bloated lobby and Healthcare bureaucracy.
For Democrats and their DSA fellow travelers, it's their way or no way. It's an infantile entitled mindset. Of course, they are mentally stunted. Of, they may be smart, but far from wise.
It more that apparent that Hakeem Jeffries is out of his element.
Democrats have lost their way a long time ago. Remember: it's the party of the "Trail of Tears" (1830), "slavery" (abolished by Republicans in 1864), the 'Ku Klux Klan' (still going on?), and Obamacare!
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Slight typo. Try 1865. The war had ended before the Constitution was amended.
 
Admiral Rockwell Tory said:
Slight typo. Try 1865. The war had ended before the Constitution was amended.
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Republicans were the liberal party in 1864.
That’s why Northern states (Democrats supporters) voted Republicans.

And that’s why in recent elections the republican electoral map looks like the Confederacy.
Liberals abolished slavery.
 
Foxfyre said:
Obamacare was doomed because it was government micromanaging both healthcare and insurance coverages which pretty well guaranteed there would be no savings and would be significant increased costs.

When you tell insurance companies what they are required to cover and to what extent, they aren't going to eat that cost. They will raise their premiums, which they did, as well as greatly increase their deductibles and copays. So yes, more people had insurance, but millions more couldn't use a lot of it because of those high deductibles and copays.
Click to expand...

Obamacare was never affordable.
 
Doc7505 said:

Democrats can’t keep the 'Schumer Shutdown' going much longer ​

23 Oct 2025 ~~ By Liz Peek

The government shutdown will end soon. How do I know? Because whatever political advantage Democrats had a few weeks ago by “standing strong!” and “confronting Trump!” is quickly evaporating. When the polls flip, so will the party that has lost its way.
Voters have a way of sniffing out the truth. They are beginning to understand that Democrats are rudderless, and are voting to keep the government closed out of confusion, not conviction.
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and their colleagues claim they desperately want Obamacare premium subsidies extended, but they have not been holding talks with Republicans, the majority party, to make that happen. They have no proposal on the table that would incorporate a subsidy extension into next year’s budget.
They have, in short, no plan.
~Snip~
What went wrong? Obamacare was flawed from the start. The idea was that, if everyone who didn’t have insurance was forced to buy into the government-provided program, the risk pool would be broad and costs low. But it turned out that it is not constitutional to require citizens to buy a commercial product. The so-called individual mandate was therefore dropped, and a great many healthy young people failed to sign up.
The result was an older, sicker pool and higher coverage costs. Some insurance companies dropped out as mandates to cover pre-existing conditions and other requirements made the program unprofitable.
Promised changes, such as tort reform and allowing insurers to compete across state lines, never materialized. And problems with America’s health care system — like too few people having “skin in the game” — have persisted. In fact, the Obamacare subsidies make that issue worse, by cutting the required contribution percentages across the board, thereby reducing enrollees’ out-of-pocket costs.
The real costs of Obamacare insurance have been masked by escalating subsidies, which were inflated during the pandemic but are set to expire at the end of this year. Democrats want those subsidies extended, even though the expected cost is nearly half a trillion dollars over the coming decade — and even though much of the benefit would go to higher-income Americans.


Commentary:
Remember that San Fran Nan told us not to bother reading the 1,000 page plus Obamacare Bill until it was passed...
It was a horribly ineffective system for health care. Created by and for a corruption machine siphoning money from taxpayers into a bloated lobby and Healthcare bureaucracy.
For Democrats and their DSA fellow travelers, it's their way or no way. It's an infantile entitled mindset. Of course, they are mentally stunted. Of, they may be smart, but far from wise.
It more that apparent that Hakeem Jeffries is out of his element.
Democrats have lost their way a long time ago. Remember: it's the party of the "Trail of Tears" (1830), "slavery" (abolished by Republicans in 1864), the 'Ku Klux Klan' (still going on?), and Obamacare!
Click to expand...
The shutdown is all on Trump/MAGA.
 
Doc7505 said:

Democrats can’t keep the 'Schumer Shutdown' going much longer ​

23 Oct 2025 ~~ By Liz Peek

The government shutdown will end soon. How do I know? Because whatever political advantage Democrats had a few weeks ago by “standing strong!” and “confronting Trump!” is quickly evaporating. When the polls flip, so will the party that has lost its way.
Voters have a way of sniffing out the truth. They are beginning to understand that Democrats are rudderless, and are voting to keep the government closed out of confusion, not conviction.
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and their colleagues claim they desperately want Obamacare premium subsidies extended, but they have not been holding talks with Republicans, the majority party, to make that happen. They have no proposal on the table that would incorporate a subsidy extension into next year’s budget.
They have, in short, no plan.
~Snip~
What went wrong? Obamacare was flawed from the start. The idea was that, if everyone who didn’t have insurance was forced to buy into the government-provided program, the risk pool would be broad and costs low. But it turned out that it is not constitutional to require citizens to buy a commercial product. The so-called individual mandate was therefore dropped, and a great many healthy young people failed to sign up.
The result was an older, sicker pool and higher coverage costs. Some insurance companies dropped out as mandates to cover pre-existing conditions and other requirements made the program unprofitable.
Promised changes, such as tort reform and allowing insurers to compete across state lines, never materialized. And problems with America’s health care system — like too few people having “skin in the game” — have persisted. In fact, the Obamacare subsidies make that issue worse, by cutting the required contribution percentages across the board, thereby reducing enrollees’ out-of-pocket costs.
The real costs of Obamacare insurance have been masked by escalating subsidies, which were inflated during the pandemic but are set to expire at the end of this year. Democrats want those subsidies extended, even though the expected cost is nearly half a trillion dollars over the coming decade — and even though much of the benefit would go to higher-income Americans.


Commentary:
Remember that San Fran Nan told us not to bother reading the 1,000 page plus Obamacare Bill until it was passed...
It was a horribly ineffective system for health care. Created by and for a corruption machine siphoning money from taxpayers into a bloated lobby and Healthcare bureaucracy.
For Democrats and their DSA fellow travelers, it's their way or no way. It's an infantile entitled mindset. Of course, they are mentally stunted. Of, they may be smart, but far from wise.
It more that apparent that Hakeem Jeffries is out of his element.
Democrats have lost their way a long time ago. Remember: it's the party of the "Trail of Tears" (1830), "slavery" (abolished by Republicans in 1864), the 'Ku Klux Klan' (still going on?), and Obamacare!
Click to expand...
What's the "schumer shutdown"?
 
Foxfyre said:
Obamacare was doomed because it was government micromanaging both healthcare and insurance coverages which pretty well guaranteed there would be no savings and would be significant increased costs.

When you tell insurance companies what they are required to cover and to what extent, they aren't going to eat that cost. They will raise their premiums, which they did, as well as greatly increase their deductibles and copays. So yes, more people had insurance, but millions more couldn't use a lot of it because of those high deductibles and copays.
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Hilarious

You even failed to understand the issue. You probably think tax cuts for billionaires helps you.
 
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Foxfyre said:
Obamacare was doomed because it was government micromanaging both healthcare and insurance coverages which pretty well guaranteed there would be no savings and would be significant increased costs.

When you tell insurance companies what they are required to cover and to what extent, they aren't going to eat that cost. They will raise their premiums, which they did, as well as greatly increase their deductibles and copays. So yes, more people had insurance, but millions more couldn't use a lot of it because of those high deductibles and copays.
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The way that Obamacare was constructed also allowed for too many ways to file forged and bogus claims by the providers.
 
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