Democrat DA Orders No More Arrests for Breaking-Entering, Shoplifting, Property Destruction, Etc.

"WE" don't
; Democrats do!! Mac; get your Party back!! The loons have taken it over!!

Greg
The Right does too. You're happy to have Trump as President, willing to make excuse after excuse for his petulant, immature behaviors. Behaviors we would not allow from our CHILDREN.

You champion people who are embarrassingly inarticulate (Trump, Dubya, Palin) because you agree with them politically.

And now you've even gone so far as infer that advanced education is a bad thing.

Neither whacked out end of our political spectrum is faultless here. Do I blame the Left more? Yes. But they're not alone.

Just HUH??? What??? What in the devil does this have to do with Trump? Sheesh, how irrational can you be?

Move to Boston, and then don't whine when someone breaks into your house, vandalizes your property, and he is set free because "the default" policy is not to prosecute such crimes.

This is a move toward becoming a banana republic.
Not necessarily. This is an opportunity to give responsibility back to the people, to see to their own safety, and security. Less reliance on government to solve ones problems is often times a good thing.
 

Here is the full list of charges that Rollins says will not be prosecuted ("unless supervisor permission is obtained")--notice that it includes resisting arrest(!):
  • Trespassing
  • Shoplifting (including offenses that are essentially shoplifting but charged as larceny)
  • Larceny under $250
  • Disorderly conduct
  • Disturbing the peace
  • Receiving stolen property
  • Minor driving offenses, including operating with a suspend or revoked license
  • Breaking and entering — where it is into a vacant property or where it is for the purpose of sleeping or seeking refuge from the cold and there is no actual damage to property
  • Wanton or malicious destruction of property
  • Threats – excluding domestic violence
  • Minor in possession of alcohol
  • Drug possession
  • Drug possession with intent to distribute
  • A stand alone resisting arrest charge, i.e. cases where a person is charged with resisting arrest and that is the only charge
  • A resisting arrest charge combined with only charges that all fall under the list of charges to decline to prosecute, e.g. resisting arrest charge combined only with a trespassing charge

Of course you left off the rest of the story:

"Instead of prosecuting, these cases should be (1) outright dismissed prior to arraignment or (2) where appropriate, diverted and treated as a civil infraction for which community service is satisfactory, restitution is satisfactory or engagement with appropriate community-based no-cost programming, job training or schooling is satisfactory. In the exceptional circumstances where prosecution of one of these charges is warranted, the line DA must first seek permission from his or her supervisor. If necessary, arraignment will be continued to allow for consultation with supervisor. Thus, there will be an avenue for prosecuting these misdemeanors when necessary but it will be appropriately overseen by experienced prosecutors."

View attachment 254297

Why is it that whenever you post something, it is intentionally misleading?

What the DA is saying is essentially this:

More crimes that in the past bought you jail time will be handled like a speeding ticket or other minor violation. There is still a penalty for committing these acts; the difference is that it no longer involves a trip to County.

Your reply is what is misleading. The statement you quoted supports everything I've said and refutes your attempt to whitewash the policy. I stated in the OP that under this policy these crimes could be prosecuted if a supervisor approved. But, the fact remains that the new DEFAULT is not to prosecute these crimes. Again, do you know what DEFAULT means?

You see, in the rest of the country, the DEFAULT is to prosecute all such crimes. Rollins has now flipped this standard. Under her policy, such crimes will either be dismissed outright (which is the preferred option under her policy) or treated as civil matters (which of course do not create a criminal record). Read her own subtitle to her policy: Charges for which the Default is to Decline Prosecuting. The DEFAULT is now to "DECLINE PROSECUTING." Got it?

You frequently play the game of quoting some text from a link in an OP that was not quoted in an OP and then acting like the quoted text proves the OP is misleading, when in fact it does not prove any such thing.

You should quote someone in their entirety.
There are still penalties for the crimes you listed. It just will not be done via the court system.
 
"WE" don't
; Democrats do!! Mac; get your Party back!! The loons have taken it over!!

Greg
The Right does too. You're happy to have Trump as President, willing to make excuse after excuse for his petulant, immature behaviors. Behaviors we would not allow from our CHILDREN.

You champion people who are embarrassingly inarticulate (Trump, Dubya, Palin) because you agree with them politically.

And now you've even gone so far as infer that advanced education is a bad thing.

Neither whacked out end of our political spectrum is faultless here. Do I blame the Left more? Yes. But they're not alone.
.

Who makes excuses: Trumps POLICIES are better and he makes me laugh. Get your Party back before it's too late. Oh: and I'm not a Republican. I'm a very happy Constitutional Monarchist.

Greg
 

Here is the full list of charges that Rollins says will not be prosecuted ("unless supervisor permission is obtained")--notice that it includes resisting arrest(!):
  • Trespassing
  • Shoplifting (including offenses that are essentially shoplifting but charged as larceny)
  • Larceny under $250
  • Disorderly conduct
  • Disturbing the peace
  • Receiving stolen property
  • Minor driving offenses, including operating with a suspend or revoked license
  • Breaking and entering — where it is into a vacant property or where it is for the purpose of sleeping or seeking refuge from the cold and there is no actual damage to property
  • Wanton or malicious destruction of property
  • Threats – excluding domestic violence
  • Minor in possession of alcohol
  • Drug possession
  • Drug possession with intent to distribute
  • A stand alone resisting arrest charge, i.e. cases where a person is charged with resisting arrest and that is the only charge
  • A resisting arrest charge combined with only charges that all fall under the list of charges to decline to prosecute, e.g. resisting arrest charge combined only with a trespassing charge

Of course you left off the rest of the story:

"Instead of prosecuting, these cases should be (1) outright dismissed prior to arraignment or (2) where appropriate, diverted and treated as a civil infraction for which community service is satisfactory, restitution is satisfactory or engagement with appropriate community-based no-cost programming, job training or schooling is satisfactory. In the exceptional circumstances where prosecution of one of these charges is warranted, the line DA must first seek permission from his or her supervisor. If necessary, arraignment will be continued to allow for consultation with supervisor. Thus, there will be an avenue for prosecuting these misdemeanors when necessary but it will be appropriately overseen by experienced prosecutors."

View attachment 254297

Why is it that whenever you post something, it is intentionally misleading?

What the DA is saying is essentially this:

More crimes that in the past bought you jail time will be handled like a speeding ticket or other minor violation. There is still a penalty for committing these acts; the difference is that it no longer involves a trip to County.

Your reply is what is misleading. The statement you quoted supports everything I've said and refutes your attempt to whitewash the policy. I stated in the OP that under this policy these crimes could be prosecuted if a supervisor approved. But, the fact remains that the new DEFAULT is not to prosecute these crimes. Again, do you know what DEFAULT means?

You see, in the rest of the country, the DEFAULT is to prosecute all such crimes. Rollins has now flipped this standard. Under her policy, such crimes will either be dismissed outright (which is the preferred option under her policy) or treated as civil matters (which of course do not create a criminal record). Read her own subtitle to her policy: Charges for which the Default is to Decline Prosecuting. The DEFAULT is now to "DECLINE PROSECUTING." Got it?

You frequently play the game of quoting some text from a link in an OP that was not quoted in an OP and then acting like the quoted text proves the OP is misleading, when in fact it does not prove any such thing.

You should quote someone in their entirety.
There are still penalties for the crimes you listed. It just will not be done via the court system.

Woh there, Missie? Like how will that work? Plead guilty and get a wrist fondle??

Greg
 
Not necessarily. This is an opportunity to give responsibility back to the people, to see to their own safety, and security. Less reliance on government to solve ones problems is often times a good thing.

LOL! Yeah, okay. You should move to Boston.

In the rest of the country, the default policy is to prosecute people who commit those crimes, and the only way they are not prosecuted is if a prosecutor gets permission from a senior prosecutor not to prosecute. Rollins has now turned that traditional standard upside down. The default--in Boston--is now *not* to prosecute people who commit those crimes unless a "supervisor" (a more senior prosecutor) directs otherwise.
 
"WE" don't
; Democrats do!! Mac; get your Party back!! The loons have taken it over!!

Greg
The Right does too. You're happy to have Trump as President, willing to make excuse after excuse for his petulant, immature behaviors. Behaviors we would not allow from our CHILDREN.

You champion people who are embarrassingly inarticulate (Trump, Dubya, Palin) because you agree with them politically.

And now you've even gone so far as infer that advanced education is a bad thing.

Neither whacked out end of our political spectrum is faultless here. Do I blame the Left more? Yes. But they're not alone.

Just HUH??? What??? What in the devil does this have to do with Trump? Sheesh, how irrational can you be?

Move to Boston, and then don't whine when someone breaks into your house, vandalizes your property, and he is set free because "the default" policy is not to prosecute such crimes.

This is a move toward becoming a banana republic.
Not necessarily. This is an opportunity to give responsibility back to the people, to see to their own safety, and security. Less reliance on government to solve ones problems is often times a good thing.

Claymores or JumpingJacks??

Greg
 
Not necessarily. This is an opportunity to give responsibility back to the people, to see to their own safety, and security. Less reliance on government to solve ones problems is often times a good thing.

LOL! Yeah, okay. You should move to Boston.

In the rest of the country, the default policy is to prosecute people who commit those crimes, and the only way they are not prosecuted is if a prosecutor gets permission from a senior prosecutor not to prosecute. Rollins has now turned that traditional standard upside down. The default--in Boston--is now *not* to prosecute people who commit those crimes unless a "supervisor" (a more senior prosecutor) directs otherwise.
So... There’s no point in calling the cops for such offenses? Then one is going to have to “save themselves”. As should be. It makes for stronger, freer, more independent people. Quit expecting some government super hero to save you, and solve all your problems.
 
"WE" don't
; Democrats do!! Mac; get your Party back!! The loons have taken it over!!

Greg
The Right does too. You're happy to have Trump as President, willing to make excuse after excuse for his petulant, immature behaviors. Behaviors we would not allow from our CHILDREN.

You champion people who are embarrassingly inarticulate (Trump, Dubya, Palin) because you agree with them politically.

And now you've even gone so far as infer that advanced education is a bad thing.

Neither whacked out end of our political spectrum is faultless here. Do I blame the Left more? Yes. But they're not alone.

Just HUH??? What??? What in the devil does this have to do with Trump? Sheesh, how irrational can you be?

Move to Boston, and then don't whine when someone breaks into your house, vandalizes your property, and he is set free because "the default" policy is not to prosecute such crimes.

This is a move toward becoming a banana republic.
Not necessarily. This is an opportunity to give responsibility back to the people, to see to their own safety, and security. Less reliance on government to solve ones problems is often times a good thing.

Claymores or JumpingJacks??

Greg
You have to wonder if TPB will even notice the huge increase in “missing persons”; as the calls for B&E hit rock bottom..?
 
You should quote someone in their entirety. There are still penalties for the crimes you listed. It just will not be done via the court system.

You should stop being dishonest and admit that nothing I did not quote changes the essential fact that (1) Rollins' policy flips the normal standard and makes the default response to such crimes to be non-prosecution, and (2) that only with a senior prosecutor's (supervisor's) approval can any of those crimes be prosecuted.

I provided the link to Rollins' memo. You guys always play this game of going to a link, finding something that was not quoted, quoting it, and then acting like the quoted material disproves the OP, when it does no such thing. Again, nothing I did not quote changes the essential facts given in the OP. Go read the Boston Globe article.

Given Rollins' race-based ideology and ideological motivations for her policy, how often do you think senior prosecutors will approve prosecution of the crimes on her list, especially when she, the DA, has said they are crimes for which "the Default is to Decline Prosecuting"?
 
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Here is the full list of charges that Rollins says will not be prosecuted ("unless supervisor permission is obtained")--notice that it includes resisting arrest(!):
  • Trespassing
  • Shoplifting (including offenses that are essentially shoplifting but charged as larceny)
  • Larceny under $250
  • Disorderly conduct
  • Disturbing the peace
  • Receiving stolen property
  • Minor driving offenses, including operating with a suspend or revoked license
  • Breaking and entering — where it is into a vacant property or where it is for the purpose of sleeping or seeking refuge from the cold and there is no actual damage to property
  • Wanton or malicious destruction of property
  • Threats – excluding domestic violence
  • Minor in possession of alcohol
  • Drug possession
  • Drug possession with intent to distribute
  • A stand alone resisting arrest charge, i.e. cases where a person is charged with resisting arrest and that is the only charge
  • A resisting arrest charge combined with only charges that all fall under the list of charges to decline to prosecute, e.g. resisting arrest charge combined only with a trespassing charge
Let’s go the DA’s house and go thru that do not arrest list.
 
Let’s go the DA’s house and go thru that do not arrest list.

Yes! Great point!

And, it turns out that two days ago the Massachusetts Secretary of Public Safety, Thomas Turco, slammed Rollins' new policy as dangerous and ill-advised! From the Boston Herald:

Secretary of Public Safety Thomas A. Turco III started the legal battle with a scathing missive that says Rollins’ unconventional practices could put children at risk, make the opioid crisis worse, and help gang members and ex-cons while also undermining drunken driving and pot laws.

Shopkeepers “struggling” to make a profit could suffer, Turco’s letter states, if Rollins fails to act on shoplifters and thieves who fence stolen property.

Turco listed six objections to “The Rollins Memo” — a 65-page policy manifesto the DA issued to her prosecutors last week — knocking her polices for posing a threat to public safety.

“Several of the policies announced in the Memo would, if implemented as proposed, put at risk the Commonwealth’s ongoing efforts to combat the ongoing crisis of the opioid epidemic and substantially restrict government’s ability to protect victims threatened with serious crimes,” Turco wrote. (Baker team slams DA Rachael Rollins' no-prosecute list. She fire's back)​
 
When I first saw this story, I thought it had to be an April Fools joke. But, it is not. Democrat Rachel Rollins, the DA of Suffolk County, which includes Boston, has ordered the police to stop arresting people for breaking and entering, destruction of private property, shoplifting, receiving stolen property, and other crimes. She has also ordered the police not to cooperate with ICE in arresting illegal immigrants in courthouses, regardless of their crime.

This, folks, is a step toward the situation in Venezuela and in so many other Third World countries where the rule of law does not exist or is very unreliable.

Vicki Batts puts it well when she says,

While Rollins may say her memo is about creating an “equal” justice system, the victims of these now-permissible crimes aren’t likely to feel they are being treated equally. But of course, that’s really the goal here, isn’t it? No one cares about the shopkeepers and homeowners that are victimized. Under far-left dogma, criminals are the true victims, we’re just too “hateful” to see it.​

Left-Wing Cities Going Lawless - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

Another Soros-Linked District Attorney Blocks Boston Police from Making Arrests on Shoplifting, Destruction of Property, Resisting Arrest, Drug Offenses... No Deportation of Illegals

If you think these articles must be exaggerating, here is Rollins' memo:

Rachael Rollins for Suffolk DA | Charges To Be Declined
The articles are lies, baseless demagoguery, and hasty generalization fallacies.

What one individual might say or do is not ‘representative’ of an entire class of persons.

And there are no ‘left-wing’ cities.
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As usual, this is another right wing thread based on either a misrepresentation or an outright lie. There has been a problem in Suffolk County with improper prosecution, and for now, prosecution for the things on that list must be appropriately overseen by experienced prosecutors.
In socialism no individual owns anything....
 

Here is the full list of charges that Rollins says will not be prosecuted ("unless supervisor permission is obtained")--notice that it includes resisting arrest(!):
  • Trespassing
  • Shoplifting (including offenses that are essentially shoplifting but charged as larceny)
  • Larceny under $250
  • Disorderly conduct
  • Disturbing the peace
  • Receiving stolen property
  • Minor driving offenses, including operating with a suspend or revoked license
  • Breaking and entering — where it is into a vacant property or where it is for the purpose of sleeping or seeking refuge from the cold and there is no actual damage to property
  • Wanton or malicious destruction of property
  • Threats – excluding domestic violence
  • Minor in possession of alcohol
  • Drug possession
  • Drug possession with intent to distribute
  • A stand alone resisting arrest charge, i.e. cases where a person is charged with resisting arrest and that is the only charge
  • A resisting arrest charge combined with only charges that all fall under the list of charges to decline to prosecute, e.g. resisting arrest charge combined only with a trespassing charge

Of course you left off the rest of the story:

"Instead of prosecuting, these cases should be (1) outright dismissed prior to arraignment or (2) where appropriate, diverted and treated as a civil infraction for which community service is satisfactory, restitution is satisfactory or engagement with appropriate community-based no-cost programming, job training or schooling is satisfactory. In the exceptional circumstances where prosecution of one of these charges is warranted, the line DA must first seek permission from his or her supervisor. If necessary, arraignment will be continued to allow for consultation with supervisor. Thus, there will be an avenue for prosecuting these misdemeanors when necessary but it will be appropriately overseen by experienced prosecutors."

View attachment 254297

Why is it that whenever you post something, it is intentionally misleading?

What the DA is saying is essentially this:

More crimes that in the past bought you jail time will be handled like a speeding ticket or other minor violation. There is still a penalty for committing these acts; the difference is that it no longer involves a trip to County.

B&E should be treated as attempted murder
Unquestionably every time it is s committed.
Why? Because the asshole doing it is also endangering his own life.

Jo
 
When I first saw this story, I thought it had to be an April Fools joke. But, it is not. Democrat Rachel Rollins, the DA of Suffolk County, which includes Boston, has ordered the police to stop arresting people for breaking and entering, destruction of private property, shoplifting, receiving stolen property, and other crimes. She has also ordered the police not to cooperate with ICE in arresting illegal immigrants in courthouses, regardless of their crime.

This, folks, is a step toward the situation in Venezuela and in so many other Third World countries where the rule of law does not exist or is very unreliable.

Vicki Batts puts it well when she says,

While Rollins may say her memo is about creating an “equal” justice system, the victims of these now-permissible crimes aren’t likely to feel they are being treated equally. But of course, that’s really the goal here, isn’t it? No one cares about the shopkeepers and homeowners that are victimized. Under far-left dogma, criminals are the true victims, we’re just too “hateful” to see it.​

Left-Wing Cities Going Lawless - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

Another Soros-Linked District Attorney Blocks Boston Police from Making Arrests on Shoplifting, Destruction of Property, Resisting Arrest, Drug Offenses... No Deportation of Illegals

If you think these articles must be exaggerating, here is Rollins' memo:

Rachael Rollins for Suffolk DA | Charges To Be Declined
The articles are lies, baseless demagoguery, and hasty generalization fallacies.

What one individual might say or do is not ‘representative’ of an entire class of persons.

And there are no ‘left-wing’ cities.
You finally proved yourself more ignorant than Timmy. Congratulations.
 
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Here is the full list of charges that Rollins says will not be prosecuted ("unless supervisor permission is obtained")--notice that it includes resisting arrest(!):
  • Trespassing
  • Shoplifting (including offenses that are essentially shoplifting but charged as larceny)
  • Larceny under $250
  • Disorderly conduct
  • Disturbing the peace
  • Receiving stolen property
  • Minor driving offenses, including operating with a suspend or revoked license
  • Breaking and entering — where it is into a vacant property or where it is for the purpose of sleeping or seeking refuge from the cold and there is no actual damage to property
  • Wanton or malicious destruction of property
  • Threats – excluding domestic violence
  • Minor in possession of alcohol
  • Drug possession
  • Drug possession with intent to distribute
  • A stand alone resisting arrest charge, i.e. cases where a person is charged with resisting arrest and that is the only charge
  • A resisting arrest charge combined with only charges that all fall under the list of charges to decline to prosecute, e.g. resisting arrest charge combined only with a trespassing charge

Of course you fail to post the REST of her memo, which includes how these cases are to be handled in lieu of prosecution:

Instead of prosecuting, these cases should be (1) outright dismissed prior to arraignment or (2) where appropriate, diverted and treated as a civil infraction for which community service is satisfactory, restitution is satisfactory or engagement with appropriate community-based no-cost programming, job training or schooling is satisfactory. In the exceptional circumstances where prosecution of one of these charges is warranted, the line DA must first seek permission from his or her supervisor.

Those who would be charged are not getting off scott free. They're having to make resitution and do community service work as an alternative to charges being filed, but please, don't let facts get in the way of your moral outrage you stupid shits.
 
"WE" don't
; Democrats do!! Mac; get your Party back!! The loons have taken it over!!

Greg
The Right does too. You're happy to have Trump as President, willing to make excuse after excuse for his petulant, immature behaviors. Behaviors we would not allow from our CHILDREN.

You champion people who are embarrassingly inarticulate (Trump, Dubya, Palin) because you agree with them politically.

And now you've even gone so far as infer that advanced education is a bad thing.

Neither whacked out end of our political spectrum is faultless here. Do I blame the Left more? Yes. But they're not alone.
.

Who makes excuses: Trumps POLICIES are better and he makes me laugh. Get your Party back before it's too late. Oh: and I'm not a Republican. I'm a very happy Constitutional Monarchist.

Greg
Trump fans make excuses. Or pretend there's nothing wrong. That just enables more of it.
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Here is the full list of charges that Rollins says will not be prosecuted ("unless supervisor permission is obtained")--notice that it includes resisting arrest(!):
  • Trespassing
  • Shoplifting (including offenses that are essentially shoplifting but charged as larceny)
  • Larceny under $250
  • Disorderly conduct
  • Disturbing the peace
  • Receiving stolen property
  • Minor driving offenses, including operating with a suspend or revoked license
  • Breaking and entering — where it is into a vacant property or where it is for the purpose of sleeping or seeking refuge from the cold and there is no actual damage to property
  • Wanton or malicious destruction of property
  • Threats – excluding domestic violence
  • Minor in possession of alcohol
  • Drug possession
  • Drug possession with intent to distribute
  • A stand alone resisting arrest charge, i.e. cases where a person is charged with resisting arrest and that is the only charge
  • A resisting arrest charge combined with only charges that all fall under the list of charges to decline to prosecute, e.g. resisting arrest charge combined only with a trespassing charge

Of course you fail to post the REST of her memo, which includes how these cases are to be handled in lieu of prosecution:

Instead of prosecuting, these cases should be (1) outright dismissed prior to arraignment or (2) where appropriate, diverted and treated as a civil infraction for which community service is satisfactory, restitution is satisfactory or engagement with appropriate community-based no-cost programming, job training or schooling is satisfactory. In the exceptional circumstances where prosecution of one of these charges is warranted, the line DA must first seek permission from his or her supervisor.

Those who would be charged are not getting off scott free. They're having to make resitution and do community service work as an alternative to charges being filed, but please, don't let facts get in the way of your moral outrage you stupid shits.

You're kidding? They have to do the dreaded community service work and/or make restitution? That will stop any wanna-be criminal right in their tracks. Look for crime to decrease considerably in the next year. The streets will once again be safe to walk at night.
 
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