Defensive gun use: Civilian holds murderer at bay with gun, doesn't shoot him, waits for police..

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A man stabbed his girlfriend to death with a knife in a public place....so the anti gunners are really happy....he didn't use a gun...true, she is still dead, but a win is a win for the anti gunners...



Sad for the anti gunners? An civilian, with a concealed carry permit used a gun to hold the murderer until the police arrived.... this makes anti gunners sad.......

The woman who was murdered had a standing, order or protection...

Which would you prefer to have...an order or protection, or a gun....we could ask her, but her husband violated the order of protection and stabbed her to death...

Myths about civilian gun owners that were busted?

1) Used a gun to hold a killer until police arrived

2) Did not shoot the killer so this is a typical gun self defense event.

2A) The good guy with the gun did not just start shooting randomly, but calmly held the killer at bay until police arrived.

3) He was not easily disarmed by the guy with the knife.

4) The police did not shoot the good guy with the gun when they arrived on the scene.


There is video....

CCW Witness to Fatal Stabbing Holds Red-Handed Attacker at Gunpoint [VIDEO] - The Truth About Guns

he woman, 28-year-old Gabrielle Garcia, was with their five-year-old son at the time and had a standing no-contact order against the father. In full view of his own child as well as many witnesses, the man stabbed Garcia repeatedly, inflicting fatal injuries.

The man, identified as 29-year-old David Lee Morris, then walked out of the Seattle Center Armory (an indoor dining area) and into the street, still holding the knife and covered in blood. There, he was met by Scott Brown, who works at Skillet restaurant in Seattle Center. It was Brown’s day off, and he was dropping by to say hi to friends.

“I have a concealed weapons license,” said Brown. “[Morris] was just walking away calmly… I got next to him and I pulled out my gun and stepped in front of him. As soon as he saw that I had a firearm, he started trying to convince me to shoot him. He just kept trying to convince me to shoot him, and I didn’t want to shoot him.”

Brown did not end up having to shoot Morris (although, based on the video and witness reports, he would have had ample justification).

“Both of his hands were bloody… He was just walking toward the man with the gun,” said Eric DeAngelo, a bystander who recorded a video of the full takedown (see below). “Kept walking toward him. I don’t know what his intention was.”

Morris continued walking toward Brown, asking him to kill him, while Brown kept walking backwards, keeping Morris in his sights for several long minutes.

“I just kept trying to get him to put down the knife,” Brown recalled, “and we kept walking backwards and backwards and backwards. Way too long. I kept looking around for police, security… the point was to hold his focus. There were people everywhere.”

At last, another bystander helped subdue Morris with pepper spray until police arrived and took control. In DeAngelo’s video (around 1:45), you can see Brown looking visibly relieved as he finally puts down his gun.
 
A man stabbed his girlfriend to death with a knife in a public place....so the anti gunners are really happy....he didn't use a gun...true, she is still dead, but a win is a win for the anti gunners...



Sad for the anti gunners? An civilian, with a concealed carry permit used a gun to hold the murderer until the police arrived.... this makes anti gunners sad.......

The woman who was murdered had a standing, order or protection...

Which would you prefer to have...an order or protection, or a gun....we could ask her, but her husband violated the order of protection and stabbed her to death...

Myths about civilian gun owners that were busted?

1) Used a gun to hold a killer until police arrived

2) Did not shoot the killer so this is a typical gun self defense event.

2A) The good guy with the gun did not just start shooting randomly, but calmly held the killer at bay until police arrived.

3) He was not easily disarmed by the guy with the knife.

4) The police did not shoot the good guy with the gun when they arrived on the scene.


There is video....

CCW Witness to Fatal Stabbing Holds Red-Handed Attacker at Gunpoint [VIDEO] - The Truth About Guns

he woman, 28-year-old Gabrielle Garcia, was with their five-year-old son at the time and had a standing no-contact order against the father. In full view of his own child as well as many witnesses, the man stabbed Garcia repeatedly, inflicting fatal injuries.

The man, identified as 29-year-old David Lee Morris, then walked out of the Seattle Center Armory (an indoor dining area) and into the street, still holding the knife and covered in blood. There, he was met by Scott Brown, who works at Skillet restaurant in Seattle Center. It was Brown’s day off, and he was dropping by to say hi to friends.

“I have a concealed weapons license,” said Brown. “[Morris] was just walking away calmly… I got next to him and I pulled out my gun and stepped in front of him. As soon as he saw that I had a firearm, he started trying to convince me to shoot him. He just kept trying to convince me to shoot him, and I didn’t want to shoot him.”

Brown did not end up having to shoot Morris (although, based on the video and witness reports, he would have had ample justification).

“Both of his hands were bloody… He was just walking toward the man with the gun,” said Eric DeAngelo, a bystander who recorded a video of the full takedown (see below). “Kept walking toward him. I don’t know what his intention was.”

Morris continued walking toward Brown, asking him to kill him, while Brown kept walking backwards, keeping Morris in his sights for several long minutes.

“I just kept trying to get him to put down the knife,” Brown recalled, “and we kept walking backwards and backwards and backwards. Way too long. I kept looking around for police, security… the point was to hold his focus. There were people everywhere.”

At last, another bystander helped subdue Morris with pepper spray until police arrived and took control. In DeAngelo’s video (around 1:45), you can see Brown looking visibly relieved as he finally puts down his gun.
Well that proves that restraining orders don’t work. Better do away with them.
 
A man stabbed his girlfriend to death with a knife in a public place....so the anti gunners are really happy....he didn't use a gun...true, she is still dead, but a win is a win for the anti gunners...



Sad for the anti gunners? An civilian, with a concealed carry permit used a gun to hold the murderer until the police arrived.... this makes anti gunners sad.......

The woman who was murdered had a standing, order or protection...

Which would you prefer to have...an order or protection, or a gun....we could ask her, but her husband violated the order of protection and stabbed her to death...

Myths about civilian gun owners that were busted?

1) Used a gun to hold a killer until police arrived

2) Did not shoot the killer so this is a typical gun self defense event.

2A) The good guy with the gun did not just start shooting randomly, but calmly held the killer at bay until police arrived.

3) He was not easily disarmed by the guy with the knife.

4) The police did not shoot the good guy with the gun when they arrived on the scene.


There is video....

CCW Witness to Fatal Stabbing Holds Red-Handed Attacker at Gunpoint [VIDEO] - The Truth About Guns

he woman, 28-year-old Gabrielle Garcia, was with their five-year-old son at the time and had a standing no-contact order against the father. In full view of his own child as well as many witnesses, the man stabbed Garcia repeatedly, inflicting fatal injuries.

The man, identified as 29-year-old David Lee Morris, then walked out of the Seattle Center Armory (an indoor dining area) and into the street, still holding the knife and covered in blood. There, he was met by Scott Brown, who works at Skillet restaurant in Seattle Center. It was Brown’s day off, and he was dropping by to say hi to friends.

“I have a concealed weapons license,” said Brown. “[Morris] was just walking away calmly… I got next to him and I pulled out my gun and stepped in front of him. As soon as he saw that I had a firearm, he started trying to convince me to shoot him. He just kept trying to convince me to shoot him, and I didn’t want to shoot him.”

Brown did not end up having to shoot Morris (although, based on the video and witness reports, he would have had ample justification).

“Both of his hands were bloody… He was just walking toward the man with the gun,” said Eric DeAngelo, a bystander who recorded a video of the full takedown (see below). “Kept walking toward him. I don’t know what his intention was.”

Morris continued walking toward Brown, asking him to kill him, while Brown kept walking backwards, keeping Morris in his sights for several long minutes.

“I just kept trying to get him to put down the knife,” Brown recalled, “and we kept walking backwards and backwards and backwards. Way too long. I kept looking around for police, security… the point was to hold his focus. There were people everywhere.”

At last, another bystander helped subdue Morris with pepper spray until police arrived and took control. In DeAngelo’s video (around 1:45), you can see Brown looking visibly relieved as he finally puts down his gun.

I never ran across anyone else who gets so much joy out of murder as you do.
 
A man stabbed his girlfriend to death with a knife in a public place....so the anti gunners are really happy....he didn't use a gun...true, she is still dead, but a win is a win for the anti gunners...



Sad for the anti gunners? An civilian, with a concealed carry permit used a gun to hold the murderer until the police arrived.... this makes anti gunners sad.......

The woman who was murdered had a standing, order or protection...

Which would you prefer to have...an order or protection, or a gun....we could ask her, but her husband violated the order of protection and stabbed her to death...

Myths about civilian gun owners that were busted?

1) Used a gun to hold a killer until police arrived

2) Did not shoot the killer so this is a typical gun self defense event.

2A) The good guy with the gun did not just start shooting randomly, but calmly held the killer at bay until police arrived.

3) He was not easily disarmed by the guy with the knife.

4) The police did not shoot the good guy with the gun when they arrived on the scene.


There is video....

CCW Witness to Fatal Stabbing Holds Red-Handed Attacker at Gunpoint [VIDEO] - The Truth About Guns

he woman, 28-year-old Gabrielle Garcia, was with their five-year-old son at the time and had a standing no-contact order against the father. In full view of his own child as well as many witnesses, the man stabbed Garcia repeatedly, inflicting fatal injuries.

The man, identified as 29-year-old David Lee Morris, then walked out of the Seattle Center Armory (an indoor dining area) and into the street, still holding the knife and covered in blood. There, he was met by Scott Brown, who works at Skillet restaurant in Seattle Center. It was Brown’s day off, and he was dropping by to say hi to friends.

“I have a concealed weapons license,” said Brown. “[Morris] was just walking away calmly… I got next to him and I pulled out my gun and stepped in front of him. As soon as he saw that I had a firearm, he started trying to convince me to shoot him. He just kept trying to convince me to shoot him, and I didn’t want to shoot him.”

Brown did not end up having to shoot Morris (although, based on the video and witness reports, he would have had ample justification).

“Both of his hands were bloody… He was just walking toward the man with the gun,” said Eric DeAngelo, a bystander who recorded a video of the full takedown (see below). “Kept walking toward him. I don’t know what his intention was.”

Morris continued walking toward Brown, asking him to kill him, while Brown kept walking backwards, keeping Morris in his sights for several long minutes.

“I just kept trying to get him to put down the knife,” Brown recalled, “and we kept walking backwards and backwards and backwards. Way too long. I kept looking around for police, security… the point was to hold his focus. There were people everywhere.”

At last, another bystander helped subdue Morris with pepper spray until police arrived and took control. In DeAngelo’s video (around 1:45), you can see Brown looking visibly relieved as he finally puts down his gun.
Give it a rest, brah.
 
A man stabbed his girlfriend to death with a knife in a public place....so the anti gunners are really happy....he didn't use a gun...true, she is still dead, but a win is a win for the anti gunners...



Sad for the anti gunners? An civilian, with a concealed carry permit used a gun to hold the murderer until the police arrived.... this makes anti gunners sad.......

The woman who was murdered had a standing, order or protection...

Which would you prefer to have...an order or protection, or a gun....we could ask her, but her husband violated the order of protection and stabbed her to death...

Myths about civilian gun owners that were busted?

1) Used a gun to hold a killer until police arrived

2) Did not shoot the killer so this is a typical gun self defense event.

2A) The good guy with the gun did not just start shooting randomly, but calmly held the killer at bay until police arrived.

3) He was not easily disarmed by the guy with the knife.

4) The police did not shoot the good guy with the gun when they arrived on the scene.


There is video....

CCW Witness to Fatal Stabbing Holds Red-Handed Attacker at Gunpoint [VIDEO] - The Truth About Guns

he woman, 28-year-old Gabrielle Garcia, was with their five-year-old son at the time and had a standing no-contact order against the father. In full view of his own child as well as many witnesses, the man stabbed Garcia repeatedly, inflicting fatal injuries.

The man, identified as 29-year-old David Lee Morris, then walked out of the Seattle Center Armory (an indoor dining area) and into the street, still holding the knife and covered in blood. There, he was met by Scott Brown, who works at Skillet restaurant in Seattle Center. It was Brown’s day off, and he was dropping by to say hi to friends.

“I have a concealed weapons license,” said Brown. “[Morris] was just walking away calmly… I got next to him and I pulled out my gun and stepped in front of him. As soon as he saw that I had a firearm, he started trying to convince me to shoot him. He just kept trying to convince me to shoot him, and I didn’t want to shoot him.”

Brown did not end up having to shoot Morris (although, based on the video and witness reports, he would have had ample justification).

“Both of his hands were bloody… He was just walking toward the man with the gun,” said Eric DeAngelo, a bystander who recorded a video of the full takedown (see below). “Kept walking toward him. I don’t know what his intention was.”

Morris continued walking toward Brown, asking him to kill him, while Brown kept walking backwards, keeping Morris in his sights for several long minutes.

“I just kept trying to get him to put down the knife,” Brown recalled, “and we kept walking backwards and backwards and backwards. Way too long. I kept looking around for police, security… the point was to hold his focus. There were people everywhere.”

At last, another bystander helped subdue Morris with pepper spray until police arrived and took control. In DeAngelo’s video (around 1:45), you can see Brown looking visibly relieved as he finally puts down his gun.
Well that proves that restraining orders don’t work. Better do away with them.


Or, hand out a concealed carry permit ...that way you cover all of your bases....
 

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