Jarlaxle
Gold Member
Some recalls are real safety issues...some are, indeed, bullshit!
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The bottom line is it takes 10 seconds to type 'Chevy Cobalt Recalls' into your computer.If someone does not research the vehicle they are buying they get what they deserve.
Researching an automobile's history has an aurora of vagueness to it. Does that mean looking up the accident record of the vehicle or browsing through the maintenance history? For most of us that is the extent of our research. But even then we generally do that when buying from a private party, if at all. Buying from a dealer is another matter. We tend to assume ( tongue in cheek) the dealer has had the car inspected thoroughly for safety and would not knowingly sell dangerous vehicles. Giving the dealer the benefit of the doubt, let us suppose he does give his vehicles a thorough inspection before selling them. He and his mechanics may not be aware that a recall is in effect on that vehicle. Recall defects tend to be less conspicuous things related to mechanical design or engineering flaws; a mechanic wouldn't have a clue unless he is privy to a list of recalls. Not all do.
The bottom line is that when a defective vehicle is sold and driven, we are all at risk. The vehicle coming towards you on the highway may have a recall defect that could send it careening into your lane. At least with a statutory requirement for all vehicles to be checked for recalls and have them fixed before being sold in place, there would be more peace of mind than we have now concerning that oncoming vehicle.
Recall check takes 5 minutes...can be done online or by calling the service department of any dealer. If you aren't bright enough to figure that out, you probably should not be permitted to operate a motor vehicle.
There are plenty of senior citizens out there who have not bothered to become computer literate. And even for younger people that are computer literate there is far too much naiveté when buying used cars from a dealer.
After having sat in the friendly dealers office poring over paperwork and reviewing the CARFAX, a certain peace of mind envelopes the buyer and the reassuring smile and handshake of the salesman, who looks just like Bob Barker, is enough. The car is driven off the lot and tested on the freeway with the driver completely unaware of the danger lurking silently within his valued treasure. An alarm is raised only when the buyer sees an ad in the paper for recalls or hears it on the news. Perhaps YOU consider that driver/buyer to be foolish in some way. I do not. And,if my op article is correct, there are a lot of people out there driving vehicles with defects. The real foolish notion is to believe that none of those vehicles will have an impact on YOUR lives.
That is not just foolish, it is plain stupid. If you don't think much more needs to be done in tacking this problem,
perhaps my efforts are being wasted on the wrong audience!
If someone does not research the vehicle they are buying they get what they deserve.
Are they phone illiterate, too?
Most used cars, unless certified are sold as is. Thus your responsibility. It is truly sad you want to dumb down people so much they don't have to show any personal responsibility.
Are they phone illiterate, too?
Most used cars, unless certified are sold as is. Thus your responsibility. It is truly sad you want to dumb down people so much they don't have to show any personal responsibility.
Personal responsibility is one thing, public safety is another. A moving defective vehicle is a time bomb that threatens anyone or any living thing in it's path. Personal responsibility , in this case, becomes an unacceptable gamble that none of us can afford. If the only thing you get from my campaign is that I'm trying to 'dumb down people," that's a blight on you.
Insurance is mandatory and in many locales emission inspections are too. Doesn't that defy your logic about personal responsibility? I think it does. It is a crime against We The People for any tier of government to allow even one defective automobile on our roadways in the name of personal responsibility!
What a joke! Right?
Are you going to next demand mandatory brake testing every 3 months next? Mandatory total engine inspection windshield wiper operation? All of those items could be faulty, you know, leading to an accident. Oh, let's not forget tire inspection monthly, shall we?
Gas appliances should be inspected monthly as well, right, lest they were to blow up, right?
It is thinking such as yours that leads to kids not being able to play on jungle gyms and teeter totters anymore, lest they get hurt, or eat with real utensils in school, lest someone decide to use them as weapons.
Toddlers can't have drawstrings on their hoodies and jackets lest they were to choke themselves, no atter it could keep there little head much warmer in cold weather. Why? -Because of rare and freak accidents. Children 6-11 can't walk to the park anymore lest they be abducted, yet statistically stranger abduction is less than .00004 percent per year!
How any of us, or our ancestors survived, is a mystery to me, since we didn't have all these life saving regulations in place.
You want to keep people safer on our roads, then support legislation that all teens must go through formal driver ed, rather than parents being able to drive with them, or not, and then sign off that they completed so many hours of driving so they can then get their license.
Sorry, I am on a rant tonight.
Are they phone illiterate, too?
Most used cars, unless certified are sold as is. Thus your responsibility. It is truly sad you want to dumb down people so much they don't have to show any personal responsibility.
Personal responsibility is one thing, public safety is another. A moving defective vehicle is a time bomb that threatens anyone or any living thing in it's path. Personal responsibility , in this case, becomes an unacceptable gamble that none of us can afford. If the only thing you get from my campaign is that I'm trying to 'dumb down people," that's a blight on you.
Insurance is mandatory and in many locales emission inspections are too. Doesn't that defy your logic about personal responsibility? I think it does. It is a crime against We The People for any tier of government to allow even one defective automobile on our roadways in the name of personal responsibility!
You were stupid enough to use Carmax?If someone does not research the vehicle they are buying they get what they deserve.
Or, like what Carmax tried to do to me is they will look up a "Car Check" that they like to call "Car Facts" (not fax) and told me there was a MINOR accident...no biggie. Oh and theres a recall on the sunroof but the dealer will replace that after purchase...
And they overpriced...if it was all about facts there wouldnt be sales people
If someone does not research the vehicle they are buying they get what they deserve.
Researching an automobile's history has an aurora of vagueness to it. Does that mean looking up the accident record of the vehicle or browsing through the maintenance history? For most of us that is the extent of our research. But even then we generally do that when buying from a private party, if at all. Buying from a dealer is another matter. We tend to assume ( tongue in cheek) the dealer has had the car inspected thoroughly for safety and would not knowingly sell dangerous vehicles. Giving the dealer the benefit of the doubt, let us suppose he does give his vehicles a thorough inspection before selling them. He and his mechanics may not be aware that a recall is in effect on that vehicle. Recall defects tend to be less conspicuous things related to mechanical design or engineering flaws; a mechanic wouldn't have a clue unless he is privy to a list of recalls. Not all do.
The bottom line is that when a defective vehicle is sold and driven, we are all at risk. The vehicle coming towards you on the highway may have a recall defect that could send it careening into your lane. At least with a statutory requirement for all vehicles to be checked for recalls and have them fixed before being sold in place, there would be more peace of mind than we have now concerning that oncoming vehicle.
I used to have a Car Fax online subscription but I don't recall seeing any with recalls listed on them. I am not saying the recalls weren't there, I just don't remember seeing them.If someone does not research the vehicle they are buying they get what they deserve.
Researching an automobile's history has an aurora of vagueness to it. Does that mean looking up the accident record of the vehicle or browsing through the maintenance history? For most of us that is the extent of our research. But even then we generally do that when buying from a private party, if at all. Buying from a dealer is another matter. We tend to assume ( tongue in cheek) the dealer has had the car inspected thoroughly for safety and would not knowingly sell dangerous vehicles. Giving the dealer the benefit of the doubt, let us suppose he does give his vehicles a thorough inspection before selling them. He and his mechanics may not be aware that a recall is in effect on that vehicle. Recall defects tend to be less conspicuous things related to mechanical design or engineering flaws; a mechanic wouldn't have a clue unless he is privy to a list of recalls. Not all do.
The bottom line is that when a defective vehicle is sold and driven, we are all at risk. The vehicle coming towards you on the highway may have a recall defect that could send it careening into your lane. At least with a statutory requirement for all vehicles to be checked for recalls and have them fixed before being sold in place, there would be more peace of mind than we have now concerning that oncoming vehicle.
Your Car Fax will tell you the vehicles history and if there are any recalls. The dealer will usually pay for it and give it to you. If not, I go to another dealer.
People just need to educate themselves on buying a car. I usually look the cars models online and look to see if they have a history or trouble.
Well I'm SURE that's some Republican person's fault right?I used to have a Car Fax online subscription but I don't recall seeing any with recalls listed on them. I am not saying the recalls weren't there, I just don't remember seeing them.
The problem with defects are that one may not appear on a report when you first read it. Then, several years later, while you have been cruising confidently down the highways and byways, secure in the idea that a single review of a recall list for your vehicle is all that is needed, BAM. Several people with cars like yours have crashed and burned...It is only THEN that most recalls are initiated.Know some states have so-called 'lemon laws' governing used vehicle sales. While others have specific ones about recalled vehicles. Would think anyone buying a vehicle, especially a used one, would be looking to see if it was recalled and whatnot in the normal course of paying however much for an item. I don't buy produce at the store unless up to date on salmonella and e. coli types notices.
I used to have a Car Fax online subscription but I don't recall seeing any with recalls listed on them. I am not saying the recalls weren't there, I just don't remember seeing them.If someone does not research the vehicle they are buying they get what they deserve.
Researching an automobile's history has an aurora of vagueness to it. Does that mean looking up the accident record of the vehicle or browsing through the maintenance history? For most of us that is the extent of our research. But even then we generally do that when buying from a private party, if at all. Buying from a dealer is another matter. We tend to assume ( tongue in cheek) the dealer has had the car inspected thoroughly for safety and would not knowingly sell dangerous vehicles. Giving the dealer the benefit of the doubt, let us suppose he does give his vehicles a thorough inspection before selling them. He and his mechanics may not be aware that a recall is in effect on that vehicle. Recall defects tend to be less conspicuous things related to mechanical design or engineering flaws; a mechanic wouldn't have a clue unless he is privy to a list of recalls. Not all do.
The bottom line is that when a defective vehicle is sold and driven, we are all at risk. The vehicle coming towards you on the highway may have a recall defect that could send it careening into your lane. At least with a statutory requirement for all vehicles to be checked for recalls and have them fixed before being sold in place, there would be more peace of mind than we have now concerning that oncoming vehicle.
Your Car Fax will tell you the vehicles history and if there are any recalls. The dealer will usually pay for it and give it to you. If not, I go to another dealer.
People just need to educate themselves on buying a car. I usually look the cars models online and look to see if they have a history or trouble.
The problem with defects are that one may not appear on a report when you first read it. Then, several years later, while you have been cruising confidently down the highways and byways, secure in the idea that a single review of a recall list for your vehicle is all that is needed, BAM. Several people with cars like yours have crashed and burned...It is only THEN that most recalls are initiated.Know some states have so-called 'lemon laws' governing used vehicle sales. While others have specific ones about recalled vehicles. Would think anyone buying a vehicle, especially a used one, would be looking to see if it was recalled and whatnot in the normal course of paying however much for an item. I don't buy produce at the store unless up to date on salmonella and e. coli types notices.
From that perspective I can see that used car dealers may sell a car with no known defects today but several months later defects may be found in that particular model after the sale. I guess it's something that cannot really be regulated.
If someone does not research the vehicle they are buying they get what they deserve.
If someone does not research the vehicle they are buying they get what they deserve.
not in America
where poor judgement is rewarded